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Barny
5th April 2012, 05:28 PM
1. Track bias and pattern of racing did not suit

2. Windy day irritated the respiratory system

3. Not suited to the track.

4. Cannot handle the track conditions.

5. Was found to be unwell (as opposed to racefitness).

6. Medication may have an adverse effect.

7. Hit with a clod during running.

8. Inconvenienced by seagulls.

9. Helicopter over head spooked the horse “GaiWaterhouse”

10. Bad ride by jockey.

11. Bad barrier.

12. Bled during the race.

13. Shoe came loose and then stepped on a nail inthe shoe ….. Shocking 2010 Melbourne Cup

14. Sitsdown in the stalls (Aqua D’amore)

15. Lack ofpace bamboozled the jockey and he went forward, only to let the horse go backto last way too late in the race, when he rattled home for 3rd.

16. Fidgettyand unsettled before the race.

17. Set fora different race in the future.

18. Stableinfo ….. the blood count was NOT spot-on but they ran the horse

19. Hard runin higher class company last start flattened him.

20. Jockey ‘wasted’ too much and had nothing left inlast 100.

21. Not suited by the distance.

22. The inside was not the place to be, Efficientraced up quickly to be third but didn’t produce his normal sprint and yieldedto finish 11th.

23. Pace of the race did not suit.

24. Seems to be an autumn horse, doesn’t fire a shotin the spring.

25. Checked during running.

26. Noise outside stable all night kept the horseawake.

27. Could not train during the week because ofavailability of the track.

28. Jockey fued that spilled onto the racetrackwhere payback was more important than a good ride.

29. Jockey’s first ride on this particular horse andnot in tune with her running style.

30. Over trained and left jaded.

31. Stood flat footed in the stalls, missed thestart and that was that.

32. Could not get clear in running.

33. “Was unlucky at first run in as he had his ****************s forced upinto his stomach” – R Smerdon, trainer of Éclair Mystic

34. Did not take a run at a crucial time of therace.

35. Gear change trialled, but proven to be afailure.

36. Given the run for fitness / experience.

37. Two jockeys on mounts in a Group 1 considered asa two horse race were so intent on the other’s mount they forgot about theother horses in the race.

38. Injured during running.

39. Had a couple of teeth out and was stillsuffering, probably from the anaesthetic

40. Sucked in wind through it’s rear end

41. Took the barrier attandants too long to load thehorses and mine became fidgety

42. Incompetent barrier staff.

43. Overraced

44. Had to carry dead weight

45. Choked up during the run – Smokin’ Joey (LeeFreedman’s) - tongue tie next run ……

46. Racing out of it’s class.

47. Trainer gave jockey bad instructions to go tothe wrong side of the straight six.

48. Could not carry the wieght.

49. Did not respond to the style of riding.

50. Days temperature was too hot.

51. Not fit enough.

52. Mark Kavanagh on Shocking in Caulfield Cup “Hegets himself into places, then gets motoring but can’t quicken at the righttime on this track”

53. Mentally unstable and just had a bad day.

54. Saddle slipped during running.
55. Vet checked, found to be sore.
56. Did not appreciate international style ofriding.

57. Didn’t acclimatize, feed, surroundings, weatheretc.

58. Gear failure (tongue tie).

59. Didn’t like the surface or texture of the track

60. Weekend Hustler was targetted and Cecconi tookadvantage of her awkward position.

61. Other horse / s in the race are superior.

62. Mare on heat.

63. Owner of Descarado - “He was wide, into a headwind & hadn’t settled in to Melbourne at all” – Descarado defeat in Turnbull and went on to win Caulfield Cup nextrun

64. Jumped at the crossing during the race.

65. Peeled out on the turn and ran smack into aheadwind.

66. Jarred up in its previous run.

67. Lost a plate during the race.

68. He just never handled the Melbourne direction “J Hawkes” (Headturner 7starts)

69. Could not train during the week because ofavailability of the track.

70. Died during the race.

71. Resented being pushed along early.

72. Huge run in top race last start, but today shewas flat and has had enough racing.

73. Slowly away from the barriers.

74. Caught wide.

75. Didn’t appreciate the inclement weather.

76. Rider dropped whip.

77. Sees daylight too early and he’ll get trucking “LeeFreedman” on Teskara

78. Kicked in the mounting yard, passed fit to run.

79. Jockey weighed in underweight.

80. Pulled hard due to not having had a run for 3 to3 ½ weeks (Takeover Target)

81. 1st past post - protested against - upheld –relegated.

82. Running down the wrong side of the straight.

83. “Commissioned got his tongue over the bit” –Rick Hore-Lacey

84. Odds too short for owners.

85. Hoof / feet problems, farrier had to remove aninch of the hoof.

86. Entire not wanting to pass a mare on heat!

87. Mentally unsound.

88. Had a really tough run last start and thatshowed up in his run today, had nothing left.

89. Been deliberately kept in a pocket as negativerace tactic by other jockey.

90. Vets incorrectly passed the horse fit to run.

91. Got tongue over tie during race.

92. Ran in unsuitable ground.

93. A piece of paper floated across the course andspooked Naturalism.

94. Race run at muddling pace.

95. Quarantine injections still in system (localstoo).

96. Shied at a crossing.

97. Immature, used to bowling along in front, notchasing.

98. A fair % of horses just don’t like wind, and thereforedon’t try.

Barny
5th April 2012, 05:28 PM
99.The confined lifestyle in <st1:pHong Kong</st1<img> didn’t suit him (All Silent).

100.Trainer talking about why their horse won today …..“Had a terrible preparation last time in (3 runs) where everything went wrong”.

101. Struck interference, lost momentum and “gave up”.

102.Didn’t leave the barrier.

Barny
5th April 2012, 05:29 PM
This will do the head in of those system hunters, and those who believe other's ratings are the bees knees ................

LOL

moeee
5th April 2012, 05:34 PM
103 - You can't pick for ********!!

moeee
5th April 2012, 05:45 PM
70. Died during the race.


Now THERE'S your Problem !!

Barny
5th April 2012, 05:46 PM
So your sysytem isn't showing a profit because it;

a) never worked in the first place,
b) the rules were illogical,
c) developed on sus' data,
d) the combinations of filters weren't complementary (or a sub-set) with / of the other filters,
e) everyone else is doing the same and the odds are too short,
f) you're not disciplined,
g) there are too many rules,

Now for the ratings .....

We'll just try e), (from above) and leave it at that eh ?????

I just loves a Friday evening ..... Go Baggers !!!!!!!!!!

Barny
5th April 2012, 05:47 PM
BTW moeee, I'm an 87.

moeee
5th April 2012, 05:56 PM
BTW moeee, I'm an 87.

Yeah? - seems to be a fair bit of it going around these days.

norisk
5th April 2012, 06:13 PM
now now Barny, you missed the main (only;)) reason -

1. Your money was on it!

partypooper
5th April 2012, 06:39 PM
Barny, re 98: if you've ever been "down wind" when a nag lift's it's tail, you will realise why your horse stopped running!!!! hee hee!

darkydog2002
5th April 2012, 10:06 PM
104.Didnt have a "R"in its name.

105.Wasnt a darkydog or Baghwan selection.

partypooper
5th April 2012, 11:53 PM
106, it's running 2nd up , when it won 1st up,
107, it hasn't got a win in its exposed form (i.e. last 4 runs this time in)
108, its carrying more than 60 kg's,
109, it is more than 7 years old,
110, its last run was not at a metro track!!
110 ridden by a 3kg claimer
111 in an apprentice only race, ladies race, amateur race,.

sorry if I've missed something and repeated!

Barny
6th April 2012, 08:17 AM
Larff at your peril dudes ..... but doesn't this give CREDENCE to the idiocy of "last 4 starts must have been placed" ?????, found in many systems. Then many horses pop up to beat the "last 4 starts must have been placed" rule selection, and the systemee (that's the dude wot is punting this system), wonders why her (change of the norm from "he") system has fallen in a hole ..... speaking of which, not sure if that wuz one of the 102 reasons "Why my horse didn't win!"

Ya gotta forgive one run or your system is dead in the water.

Go on, larf !!!!!

partypooper, your additions are form based system type rules and not to be included .... My list, my rules !!!

darkydog2002
6th April 2012, 03:34 PM
We,re not laughing Barny.
Your reasons are part of why Race horse betting is simply gambling.
There,s really no secret.Just good or bad luck on the day.
Cheers
darky

Barny
6th April 2012, 06:30 PM
I think you've spelt larffing incorrectly darkydog2002, but I'll ovelook that. It is gambling, but some do prosper from it via their betting. Not too many, but some. Like some prosper from professional card playing (can I use professional in terms of card playing darky, as I know your not too keen about the term 'professional investor' when referring to betting on the 'orses?)

I do in fact know of ONE individual who has been making a living on the nags for some 40 years. There are a couple on here whom I'm certain make a living on the punt, few and far between tho'

Won't start a new thread but class interests me. Is it as simple as saying it's a horse who races better in higher class races than those in which that horse is meeting today?, notwithstanding the fact that there would be some in this race that haven't had the opportunity to race in higher class races.

In two sentences, can someone explain how to identify a class horse in a race.

Luv your work darkydog2002. Some of your systems aren't as bizarre to me now, as they were a year or so ago. Should I be worried? lol

partypooper
6th April 2012, 10:45 PM
Barny, sorry, yes I see where you are going, I could give an argument as to what is "Form" based but will refrain, but therefore re-iterate my contention that if your nag just happens to be "down wind" well, forget it!

darkydog2002
7th April 2012, 09:09 AM
Class Horses you,ll find in the upper Weight Categories 55 Kg +.

How do you identify the winners refer to your original post.

Cheers

darkydog2002
7th April 2012, 01:15 PM
Yes Barny "Laughing" is the correct English spelling .
Both "erry" and I attended the Prestigious Private School in Melbourne called Turana.
In fact we were "Head Boys "at the elite Poplar House.

Many of our colleques moved onto great careers in the Banking sector.
One well known Chap even writes books these days.

Ah.Such happy memories.

Cheers
darky

darkydog2002
7th April 2012, 02:39 PM
"R"The Golden Slipper "R" you on Barny?

Barny
7th April 2012, 03:13 PM
Barny, sorry, yes I see where you are going, I could give an argument as to what is "Form" based but will refrain, but therefore re-iterate my contention that if your nag just happens to be "down wind" well, forget it!
So if my nag happens to be down wind, ie; down wind from me? .... Well, I've never been so insulted in all my life !!

Bhagwan
8th April 2012, 07:52 PM
Why didnt my horse win?

Because it appeared on the front cover of the Sportman racing newspaper that's why.

Its amazing how many of those ,manage to fall over after being hyped up to Billieo , when priced $2.25+

darkydog2002
8th April 2012, 08:59 PM
As is the "Special" at r+s.

On Saturdays here in NSW they,ve been putting the TimeForm Selections in the Telegraph.
Being a Weight Rating man I,ve always reckoned that any Time rating analyisis would be ideal for "LAY "betting.
Nothing to back it up except a gut feeling..

Cheers
darky

partypooper
8th April 2012, 11:50 PM
Well, I was thinking of the nag in front but now you mention it I guess you would know better than most, hahhahaha!

kumite
10th April 2012, 03:42 PM
more than enough reasons here to give up punting on the nags for life! LOL