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Bhagwan
27th April 2012, 10:14 AM
The idea is to keep going, win, lose or draw until in profit.
Then start at the beginning.
It works if your system has a 22% SR and min price $3.20+
Lots---$
8 x .....1
7 x......2
6 x......3
5 x......4
4 x......5
3 x......6
2 x......7
4 x......10
5 x......15
Total $227
Run of outs
It would be a good idea to have 5 X banks of $227
You may wonder why one rarely sees staking plans on this forum
The reason I believe, is the SHEAR RAGE of personal abuse that follows .
From those who don't want you to have this information.
It is very difficult to show a profit at level stakes generally.
Most reasonable methods that target runners <=$5.50 , lose about 2-15% on turn over, at level stakes.
Staking plans ,like this ,have shown, that it can be turned around into a profit.
The most risky of staking plans, are those that try to recoup all losses all in one go, on low priced runners.
They are OK over a short run.
Remember : You need 22% at $3.20+ to make this work.
The 22% SR reduces the runs of outs in a row.
As with any new idea.
Give it a dry run first, using your favourite selection process, before using any real money.
moeee
27th April 2012, 10:45 AM
You may wonder why one rarely sees staking plans on this forum
The reason I believe, is the SHEAR RAGE of personal abuse that follows .
From those who don't want you to have this information.
Thanks for that.
I though it was because Staking Plans have been mathematically proven time and time again to be a nonsense.
Obviously I was in manifest error :(
bernie
27th April 2012, 10:52 AM
You may wonder why one rarely sees staking plans on this forumGee, there are heaps on here if you take the time to look. Most are from you Bhagwan.
moeee
27th April 2012, 11:11 AM
LOLL Bernie!
bernie
27th April 2012, 11:28 AM
Phew. Bhagwan, amongst others these are staking plans posted by you.
10 Point Staking Plan
Bhagwan Staking Plan
Bhagwan Place Staking & Selection
Place Staking & Selection plan
Bhagwan Staking Plan (2)
5% Staking Plan
8 Bet Place Staking Plan (No2)
Money Management Staking Plan
Place Staking Plan
Bhagwan Staking Plan (B)
Staking Plan Challenge
Each Way Staking Plan
Staking Plan using variable percentage
Dynamite Place Staking Plan
Simple Staking Plan
1/20th Staking Plan
Roulette-Red & Black Staking Plan
Duel Progression Staking Plan
Roulette 6 Step Staking Plan
Ladder Staking Plan
Roulette Staking Plan
Ladder Staking Plan (B)
TAB Favourites Plan
Square Root Staking Plan
4 Horse Value Staking Plan
Previous Winner Staking Plan
1-4 Lay Staking Plan
Six Block Lay Staking Plan
10 Block Staking Plan
Black Box Lay Staking Plan
New Staking Plan
Escalator Staking Plan
jose
27th April 2012, 11:58 AM
Lots---$
8 x .....1
7 x......2
6 x......3
5 x......4
4 x......5
3 x......6
2 x......7
4 x......10
5 x......15
Total $227
Run of outs
The last 2 lines of bets in the sequence are a bit of a concern for me.
Looks as though they are "last throw of the dice" type bets.
Who knows, maybe it just may work.
moeee
27th April 2012, 12:18 PM
STOP It Bernie - Your killing me :)
Lets talk seriously just for a moment .
How do you stake Bernie?
I wager according to the amount I feel the individual wager deserves.
But what often creeps in is that the wager gets highly influenced by what happened the previous wager or three , especially if they were losers.
I almost feel compelled and obliged to wager heavier to get my bankroll back to its previous state.
I believe this to be a common theme with many Punters who have no rigid rules.
EDIT: - JOSE!!
If you gone that many wagers into a sequence without realizing a Profit , then it might be a brilliant idea to simply throw it all away in desperation and start again.
jose
27th April 2012, 01:15 PM
May as well have the lot on the first bet and put yourself out of your misery early.
bernie
27th April 2012, 01:18 PM
:)
How do you stake Bernie?
EDIT: - JOSE!!
If you gone that many wagers into a sequence without realizing a Profit , then it might be a brilliant idea to simply throw it all away in desperation and start again.Hi moeee,
lol @ your reply to jose. Mine would have been try it and see. If it fails there are many others of Bhagwan's just as good.
To your question, I don't stake. I don't bet, or gamble as I prefer to call it. Studying systems has been a hobby of mine for over 40 years. Needless to say, I haven't found the winning formula and I guess I never will. However, it's a good work out for the grey matter and I enjoy the challenge of trying to find something that "works".
It's not hard to find a system that breaks even but trying to get something that remains in profit is another matter. I've never studied laying as for the life of me I can't see the point in picking losers. Going to the races yelling for the horse to slow down, fall over or what ever lay bettors do, is not my cup of tea. Yes, I do occasionally go to the races. I bet about $2 per race just for fun.
Yep, many punters chase loses. In my opinion chasing loses will never work unless one can accurately predict the length of a losing sequence. Something no one, to my knowledge, is capable of.
moeee
27th April 2012, 01:37 PM
Thank you to everyone who has participated in this thread.
I have found it to be the most amusing and entertaining thread I have read in a long while.
Bernie.
Do you post in any other Forums?
bernie
27th April 2012, 01:56 PM
Bernie.Do you post in any other Forums?No moeee I don't.
Just as a matter of interest, I am looking at a system that was posted in this forum many moons ago.
Okay, only 43 bets so far, so too early to get excited, but a SR of 46.5% and a POT of 91%. Averages about 2-3 bets per day. No progression I might add. It's systems like this that keep me going. My best system ran for nearly 300 bets before it bombed out.
Bhagwan
27th April 2012, 06:20 PM
I'm trying to help you chaps with the good oil & that's the thanks you get.
Without even testing it.
But that's alright.
Just send us a sample of your bets & we will go from there.
There must be 22% SR with a min price 3.20
Just as well I haven't any feelings.
Certain staking plans can work in the right hands.
Not even level stakes works, if one cant pick winners.
moeee
27th April 2012, 06:37 PM
nah.
I'm done.
I've had enough holidays lately.
how about u Bernie?
u got anything about that hot system u testing to wet our beaks a little?
bernie
27th April 2012, 06:41 PM
I'm trying to help you chaps with the good oil & that's the thanks you get.Are you saying that all your staking plans ( I only presented a sample of them here; ones that were easy to find) are all the good oil?
bernie
27th April 2012, 06:45 PM
how about u Bernie? u got anything about that hot system u testing to wet our beaks a little?Nah sorry moeee 3 loses out of 3 today. Forum curse maybe?
Tomorrows another day though.
Cheers
moeee
27th April 2012, 06:54 PM
Nah sorry moeee 3 loses out of 3 today. Forum curse maybe?
I suggest more likely an extraordinary strike rate and profit simply levelling out in the direction of where it should be.
Plus - the Forum curse usually only applies when the actual tips are posted.
Bhagwan
27th April 2012, 07:26 PM
1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2w@5.60
2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3 3 3
4 4w@6.70
4 4 4
5w@5.70 .....+1.50
1 1 1w3.80
1 1 1w@6.00....+5.30
Level stakes
O/L 33.00
Ret 27.80
Loss -5.20 = 16% LOT
Escalator staking plan
O/L 71.00
Ret 76.30
Prof +5.30 = +7.5% POT
Selections came from todays (Fri 26th) Radio TAB tipsters top 2 & taking the greater price of the 2 if priced 3.20-7.00
bernie
27th April 2012, 07:36 PM
I suggest more likely an extraordinary strike rate and profit simply levelling out in the direction of where it should be.
Yep possibly could be. Time will tell.
night night.
embee
8th May 2012, 10:36 PM
what about you moeee were you on another forum in jan feb 2008 ..haha long time ago ..hope you well ..embee
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