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moeee
4th June 2012, 02:39 PM
CRANBOURNE Race 1

3 NEGREANU $4.4
7 SPEED PLAY $4.9
1 VOCAL EXIT $6.5
2 ARVO'S HANNAH $6.7
10 ARVO'S STEFAN $11.5
5 INNER FOX $12
4 DOMINIQUE $16
9 GUPPA GEE $25

A Race to stay out of unless a Double Overlay is found



CRANBOURNE Race 4

2 TOUGH DEFENDER $3.3
1 ALDUS BALE $4.6
6 THALKIRKEN $6.1
5 HADES JET $6.7
7 TOM TUKAN $14
8 UP AND GONE $24
3 TIGERY ROSE $26
4 SMURF'S ZANDRA $50

The top selection could be a Good Wager here



CRANBOURNE Race 5

5 PREMIER BOLONEY $3
4 ASCARI $4
3 WORTH NOTING $5.9
2 MOOT HILL LEADER $8.4
1 CIVIC OCTANE $21
6 ULTIMATE CRUISER $22
7 NITRISS NEVEELK $40
8 SMURF'S SENORITA $50

Unlikely to be a useful Overlay found in this

moeee
4th June 2012, 03:15 PM
CRANBOURNE Race 1

7 SPEED PLAY $4.9

A Race to stay out of unless a Double Overlay is found

Well I got over $7 about this animal and it performed poorly.


CRANBOURNE Race 6

7 WANDY NEG $2.3
5 FULL CIRCLE $5.4
2 MISSION COMPLETE $6.3
8 RILEY'S MATE $6.9
4 TEDDY TOOL $23
1 PARIS MONTANA $73
3 SQUEEKY TAYLOR $77
9 TIME SHIFT $4,300

I may be backing the top selection to try and return todays losses.
Is miles better than these

moeee
4th June 2012, 03:40 PM
CRANBOURNE Race 7

1 SCARLET MAID $3.7
4 BELTIS BALE $4.2
7 ONYA JACK $7.8
8 AERON BALE $9.4
3 SPRING BLUEGIRL $10
2 BOWL ALONG $13
6 CUTTS ROAD $15
5 DAYS OF STEAM $75

The top selection should win this

moeee
4th June 2012, 05:08 PM
CRANBOURNE Race 9

2 COSMIC SNOW $4.5
7 CREATIVE EVE $5.3
4 INVICTUS VENESSA $5.4
5 MAXZIVA $7
3 STORMY AGOGO $14
8 JOHN CONNOR $14
1 BEE JAY'S PEDRO $15
6 TALON MISS $16

lomaca
4th June 2012, 05:41 PM
CRANBOURNE Race 9

2 COSMIC SNOW $4.5
7 CREATIVE EVE $5.3
4 INVICTUS VENESSA $5.4
5 MAXZIVA $7
3 STORMY AGOGO $14
8 JOHN CONNOR $14
1 BEE JAY'S PEDRO $15
6 TALON MISS $16again worlds apart, #5 and #3 are my selections and I think the 5 either will win it or place at odds. The 3? it's a selection so have to back it for a place at least.

Good luck

lomaca
4th June 2012, 05:51 PM
again worlds apart, #5 and #3 are my selections and I think the 5 either will win it or place at odds. The 3? it's a selection so have to back it for a place at least.

Good luckwell so much for that.

for the rest of the day
maybe
22:05 10 Shepparton 2 BETTY VE DU
22:05 10 Shepparton 4 BIZARRE ESCA
22:05 10 Shepparton 3 DAINTREE WAR
22:05 10 Shepparton 7 DAVEN BALE
22:05 10 Shepparton 5 FIRESIDE CIT
22:05 10 Shepparton 1 MR. EVERYWHE
22:10 10 Bulli 5 BIG WAVE
22:10 10 Bulli 7 ELITE RACER
22:10 10 Bulli 4 PORCELAIN ST
22:18 9 Launceston 3 CLASSIC DELT
22:18 9 Launceston 8 DON'T GET TE
22:18 9 Launceston 5 INDIAN MAGIC
22:25 11 Shepparton 2 LOST PROFITS
22:25 11 Shepparton 6 MERCURY VAPO
22:25 11 Shepparton 5 RUSTIC KING
22:25 11 Shepparton 3 SARSAPARILLA

moeee
4th June 2012, 06:29 PM
again worlds apart
well I have gone back to my old methods.
Its based on Form.
I have no idea what your methods are based on.

SHEPPARTON Race 5

2 KID CONDOR $5.7
4 ALANA BALE $5.9
1 TERRY'S DELIGHT $6.1
5 GREYSYND ROSE $6.2
6 MAGIC RUBBLE $7.5
8 FOOSE $8.5
3 DOT MAN $16
7 LEKTRA GOLD $50

2,4,1 - 2,4,1,5,6 - 2,4,1,5,6,8 - 2,4,1,5,6,8,3 for $6 worth
leaving out the bottom animal - might even leave out the next bottom , but that is tempting fate that little bit too much

lomaca
4th June 2012, 06:41 PM
I have no idea what your methods are based on.
moeee my method could not be simpler and easier.
With a bit of care they produce a healthy profit

I'm not taunting you or any one else because as you yourself said "free is worth nothing" to paraphrase your words.
Besides your method is different anyway, could be compatible but I don't know enough to work it out.

Anyway here is the rest of the day's as I see it:
20:26 5 Shepparton 4 ALANA BALE
20:26 5 Shepparton 3 DOT MAN
20:29 5 Bulli 5 BOLT LOCK BO
20:29 5 Bulli 4 EXCLUSIVE ON
20:33 7 Angle Park 7 EMERLEY STRI
20:33 7 Angle Park 2 JOSEPHINE WI
20:33 7 Angle Park 8 MOJITO
20:33 7 Angle Park 3 NAPOLEON WIZ
20:33 7 Angle Park 6 RADICAL
20:37 4 Launceston 7 CUSTODIAN
20:37 4 Launceston 2 DOC BERKSHIR
20:37 4 Launceston 8 POSH POPPY
20:41 7 Albion Park 5 IFS AND BUTT
20:41 7 Albion Park 4 SON OF ZORRO
20:44 6 Shepparton 7 AFRICAN WAVE
20:44 6 Shepparton 5 IKARI PEDRO
20:44 6 Shepparton 8 SMART INTENT
20:44 6 Shepparton 3 SPENCE'S BOY
20:51 6 Bulli 3 INDIGO PIRAT
20:51 6 Bulli 8 SATIN NELL
20:51 6 Bulli 7 YAMMA MOTO
20:54 8 Angle Park 3 DYNA DARA
20:54 8 Angle Park 4 EMERLEY MAX
20:54 8 Angle Park 6 FLYING MAY
20:54 8 Angle Park 8 VANILLA GORI
20:54 8 Angle Park 5 YOU BEE
21:02 8 Albion Park 5 CANUNGRA GUN
21:02 8 Albion Park 1 DAYS OF TUNZ
21:02 8 Albion Park 6 ELITE LIFEST
21:02 8 Albion Park 2 NEVER FORGET
21:02 8 Albion Park 3 WITCH HALF
21:05 7 Shepparton 5 SIK EM MAX
21:09 7 Bulli 6 BLACK JACK M
21:09 7 Bulli 7 PAINTED AMIG
21:09 7 Bulli 3 RARE BRED
21:09 7 Bulli 10 TIME IS GOLD
21:12 9 Angle Park 5 BOSS MONOPOL
21:12 9 Angle Park 2 DYNA DEARY
21:12 9 Angle Park 3 EVA'S FLAME
21:19 6 Launceston 3 PAPER TRAIL
21:19 6 Launceston 1 WINKLEE WARR
21:22 9 Albion Park 8 SLICK ELLY
21:26 8 Shepparton 5 BEST PERFUME
21:30 8 Bulli 4 ELITE BOUND
21:30 8 Bulli 6 FANCY WILL
21:30 8 Bulli 8 HERADIAS
21:30 8 Bulli 1 SHE CAN SEW
21:34 10 Angle Park 2 TAJ STAR
21:40 10 Albion Park 7 BEER SHEVA
21:40 10 Albion Park 2 NEVER TELL
21:47 9 Shepparton 1 LEGGY ELLE
21:47 9 Shepparton 2 SHEOAK RALPH
21:59 8 Launceston 7 BEAUDINE
21:59 8 Launceston 1 BUBBLE GUMP
21:59 8 Launceston 5 GOTTA BE DAI
22:05 10 Shepparton 2 BETTY VE DU
22:05 10 Shepparton 4 BIZARRE ESCA
22:05 10 Shepparton 3 DAINTREE WAR
22:05 10 Shepparton 7 DAVEN BALE
22:05 10 Shepparton 5 FIRESIDE CIT
22:05 10 Shepparton 1 MR. EVERYWHE
22:10 10 Bulli 5 BIG WAVE
22:10 10 Bulli 7 ELITE RACER
22:10 10 Bulli 4 PORCELAIN ST
22:18 9 Launceston 3 CLASSIC DELT
22:18 9 Launceston 8 DON'T GET TE
22:18 9 Launceston 5 INDIAN MAGIC
22:25 11 Shepparton 2 LOST PROFITS
22:25 11 Shepparton 6 MERCURY VAPO
22:25 11 Shepparton 5 RUSTIC KING
22:25 11 Shepparton 3 SARSAPARILLA

moeee
4th June 2012, 06:45 PM
Lomaca
Why is it not possible to add something to your simple method so that it doesn't find 6 runners in 1 race?

I don't know.
Say , Must have a Statistics Place percentage over 33% or someting like that?

lomaca
4th June 2012, 06:55 PM
Lomaca
Why is it not possible to add something to your simple method so that it doesn't find 6 runners in 1 race?

I don't know.
Say , Must have a Statistics Place percentage over 33% or someting like that?Simple. (he said when nothing is simple)
I would have to have past records and a method of analysing and rating the runners while maintaining the integrity of my method.

Sometimes my selections turn out top notch favs. and win or fail, sometimes they are at odds of $20 $30 and win like an odds on fav should.

If I go the ratings way these runners would be relegated to the bottom of the field.
The trick would be to find the best of the two methods, but as I said I don't know enough.

Cheers

moeee
4th June 2012, 07:07 PM
Sometimes my selections turn out top notch favs. and win or fail, sometimes they are at odds of $20 $30 and win like an odds on fav should.

I said when there are 6 selections per race.
Surely you can't back them all and still make a Profit?

lomaca
4th June 2012, 07:25 PM
I said when there are 6 selections per race.
Surely you can't back them all and still make a Profit?sorry I misunderstood you.
Yes there are two vital items that make the selections when I look at all the qualifiers.
When I print out only those tracks that produce a profit and dogs that per-qualify then I have far fewer selections but I miss out on some outliers so I compromise, print out all but make a personal selection.
Hope it clears it up.

lomaca
4th June 2012, 07:39 PM
sorry I misunderstood you.
Yes there are two vital items that make the selections when I look at all the qualifiers.
When I print out only those tracks that produce a profit and dogs that per-qualify then I have far fewer selections but I miss out on some outliers so I compromise, print out all but make a personal selection.
Hope it clears it up.Like race 5 Shep Alana Bale had the best time on dist 25.54 Dot Man did it in 25.71 so the selction in this case was the 4.

at Launc race 4 it is #8 on both criteria
In this case I missed but it's the ones I get that matters!!!
As long there is more of them I'm ahead.

lomaca
4th June 2012, 07:45 PM
Like race 5 Shep Alana Bale had the best time on dist 25.54 Dot Man did it in 25.71 so the selction in this case was the 4.

at Launc race 4 it is #8 on both criteria
In this case I missed but it's the ones I get that matters!!!
As long there is more of them I'm ahead.Missed the edit again it's annoying!!!!
race 6 7 and 8 ea way!

Not this time.

moeee
4th June 2012, 07:50 PM
In this case I missed but it's the ones I get that matters!!!
As long there is more of them I'm ahead.
Exactly.
Thats the bottom Line isn't it?

But for me its not only about that.
Its about developing a talent and ability that leads to the same bottom line.

I figure I ain't too bad a handicapper , but just haven't got the personality of people like you Lomaca that keep records and do the research , and that is holding me back.
I simply hate doing it for some reason.

lomaca
4th June 2012, 07:53 PM
Missed the edit again it's annoying!!!!
race 6 7 and 8 ea way!

Not this time.Really annoying this time restriction!!! Hope someone takes notice?

Anyhow Bulli race 6 # 3 for me and that's it for today, duty calls we are going "out" sort of.

Cheers

lomaca
4th June 2012, 08:00 PM
Exactly.
Thats the bottom Line isn't it?

But for me its not only about that.
Its about developing a talent and ability that leads to the same bottom line.

I figure I ain't too bad a handicapper , but just haven't got the personality of people like you Lomaca that keep records and do the research , and that is holding me back.
I simply hate doing it for some reason.I don't know your approach to betting moeee, but I only started because I saw an opportunity to make money. Spent some time learning and paid the price as we all have to do.

I'm lucky to say I do not have a compulsive personality.
I treat is a business.

Sorry she is yelling!

moeee
4th June 2012, 08:01 PM
RACE 7

5 SIK EM MAX $3.4
4 JET LANE $4.5
2 SUPER PAYMENT $6.3
8 CRASH CART KEV $7.6
3 FINBAR MCCOOL $14.3
7 PROVEN CHANCE $17.7
6 MISS ALOUETTE $27.1
1 MONICA'S HOT $27.7

moeee
4th June 2012, 08:04 PM
Sorry she is yelling!
Dress warm and enjoy
nite

moeee
4th June 2012, 08:22 PM
RACE 8

1 NOVA VITE $2.9
3 COME ON RODGE $5.2
8 WHERE'S CLEO $6.7
5 BEST PERFUME $12.8
6 SUPER TRAIN $14.1
2 ELLIE BALE $15.0
9 BLACK BANT $17.7
4 FIRST INCISION $22.7

1,3 - 1,3,8 - 1,3,8,5 - 1,3,8,5,6,2

moeee
4th June 2012, 08:42 PM
Close in the previous but no cigar

RACE 9

1 LEGGY ELLE $3.0
4 TINA SPARKLE $5.2
2 SHEOAK RALPH $6.1
5 PLATINUM'S IMAGE $6.7
6 BLACK RANSOM $13.4
7 MADDY'S JET $17.5
3 STYLISH BOXER $33.7

1,4,2 - 1,4,2,5 - 1,4,2,5 - 1,4,2,5,6,7

moeee
4th June 2012, 08:52 PM
RACE 9

1,4,2 - 1,4,2,5 - 1,4,2,5 - 1,4,2,5,6,7
You guessed it - the rank animal that I left out ran 4th :(

Goodnite

woof43
4th June 2012, 08:54 PM
Winning Style Box 1st Split Rating Rank
VR 1 $3.56 1
BR 2 $298.51 7
FR 3 $3.96 2
FR 4 $5.51 3
BR 5 $18.67 6
FR 6 $7.53 4
BR 7 $10.54 5
BR 8 $1,428.57 8
adjusted to Meadows times
1 30.385
2 30.697
3 30.469
4 30.488
5 30.537
6 30.574
7 30.394
8 30.584
I would have ruled the #6 out had it been slower then 4th at the split.

moeee
4th June 2012, 09:05 PM
I would have ruled the #6 out had it been slower then 4th at the split.
I looked through your figures and didn't notice anywhere that it was a selection

woof43
4th June 2012, 09:06 PM
I looked through your figures and didn't notice anywhere that it was a selection
it scraps in as an exotic selection for 1st