Stars' 10 cent System

[Star]

From little acorns mighty oaks grow, or so the saying goes.

Based on what Garf and Aussie have written I have decided to scrap one of my systems and look at my main one to see if I can improve its return. Now, I am not going to fiddle with it because it is going better then I expected but what I will do is to start another system with the same filters.

What I have been trying to do is to find value away from the obvious. many times their has been more then one selection and I have gone with the first in line.

Now, and this is where some input from others will be helpful. Is having a two horse per race system but run as two different Systems the same as two different systems. ( Does that make sense. ? )

My thinking is that with a 20% SR and with some value in them running them with different horses is not different to having two entirely different systems that might be working on different races.

I know some on here have up to six systems going at once to level up the swings and roundabouts.

My thinking is, " is their a disadvantage in having two systems picking different horses in the same race and would it be possible to get a similar SR.

Let's say for this point, that both returned a 20% SR is their a disadvantage or where is the flaw in my logic.

I am allowing 20 outs at 10 cents ber bet to test this out,o your thoughts would be interesting. Sometimes, like now, when I start to get to involved my clarity of thought goes out the window, then other times this lack of clarity can give birth to a new angle that I would not have thought of when the mind was more focussed.

Make sense, Clear as mud, eh! yep. I thought so. It will only cost me $2 to find out what I expect many on here could give me for nothing.

Star

[Barny]

Is having a two horse per race system but run as two different Systems the same as two different systems. ( Does that make sense. ? )


Two horses per race system is exactly the same as two selections in different races.

[Star]

Two horses per race system is exactly the same as two selections in different races.Barny, for a system it might be. But I can only get one outright winner per race, not two if they were different races.

With a System, if I have this right, it is not the race that matters it is the SR. No one race is more important then another. So, in the long term it may be, but I wonder if it can be classified as Dutching and causing a drop in returns.

Sometimes, I think I overcomplicate things, Maybe in the short term based on one race it does, but in the mid to long term it does not,?

That's why it is a ten cent System, Probably over priced at that too.

Star.

ps.

I just reread your wording . ( Two Horse per Race System ) So, I think you have answered my query. It is different to two horses per race

[Barny]

I just reread your wording . ( Two Horse per Race System ) So, I think you have answered my query. It is different to two horses per race
No, a system that picks two horses in the same race will have exactly the same outcome for a systems that picks two horses, but in entirely different races ..... provided that the filters are exactly the same. You could have the systme pick 4 horses in the same race, and that very same systme might pick 4 horses in 4 separate races. It wont alter the S/R, the S/R will be what is is regardless of multiple runners or not.

[Star]

Thanks.

I have just looked at a a few races and think I have to find another filter, too many qualifiers is complicating things.

The neurals did some of the sorting order for me, but that has proven to be unreliable. Do you know of any Rating systems or a quick method to get started.

Race book order looks a bit dicey as the odds might be too short. I was looking for value against chance. Their must be another angle that I can look for.

Star

[Barny]

Do you know of any Rating systems or a quick method to get started.


I think ratings will only lead you to the top few in the betting, and overbet ones at that ..... IMHO they're over-rated !!!!! both the horses odds the ratings ratings systems themselves. But people on here swear by them .... I think they're on the wrong track.

They're paddling uphill !!!!!!!! Can u do THAT ??????

[Star]

I think ratings will only lead you to the top few in the betting, and overbet ones at that ..... IMHO they're over-rated !

They're paddling uphill !!!!!!!! Can u do THAT ??????
Yep. Had pleanty of practice at that.

Thanks for the reply, I thought the neurals were the answer too. I agree, but what I am trying to do is to ignore the main chances and over bet ones. I am trying to look away from the obvious.

Maybe that is the beginning of a thread in itself. Maybe we can blow a few myths up. I will start another thread and see if we can get some contributors.