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Rogan Josh
13th April 2003, 08:39 AM
AJC AUSTRALIAN DERBY 2400M Randwick Sat 19th April

1 AL MEGDAM Gai Waterhouse 56.5
2 AMORSOLO Gai Waterhouse 56.5
3 ARBITRAGE Clarry Conners 56.5
4 ART OF WAR Gai Waterhouse 56.5
5 BEAVER John Hawkes 56.5
6 BEST SCORE Patrick Webster 56.5
7 BORN TO CONQUER (NZ) Gerald Ryan 56.5
8 BOYD Doug Harrison 56.5
9 CHARLIE BUB (NZ) Gary Portelli 56.5
10 CLANGALANG Gerald Ryan 56.5
11 CONVERGE (NZ) Bradley Marzato 56.5
12 COSTAGEM Tara Vigouroux 56.5
13 DANEHILL TREASURE Gai Waterhouse 56.5
14 DANEWIN CHIEF Bob Thomsen 56.5
15 DAVIDOFF (NZ) Michael Moroney 56.5
16 DERBY PARADE Justin Drake 56.5
17 DIAMOND JAKE Brian Mayfield-Smith 56.5
18 FAWAZ Graeme Rogerson 56.5
19 FOREIGN ACCENT (NZ) Mathew Ellerton 56.5
20 FOUNTAIN ABBEY (NZ) Bruce Wallace 56.5
21 FREE CHEERS Gary Portelli 56.5
22 FRIGHTENING Bart Cummings 56.5
23 FUBUTU Cliff Brown 56.5
24 GALANTE (NZ) Bart Cummings 56.5
25 GALLANT SON (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
26 GALLIC (NZ) Bradley Marzato 56.5
27 GEIGER SPIRIT Gai Waterhouse 56.5
28 GOBI Guy Walter 56.5
29 HELENUS Leon Corstens 56.5
30 HERAKLID Syd Brown 56.5
31 HUKA LODGE John Morish 56.5
32 HYDROMETER Leon Macdonald 56.5
33 IN GOOD TIME Gai Waterhouse 56.5
34 IRISH NOBLE Clarry Conners 56.5
35 JEREMIAD John Hawkes 56.5
36 KABLAMMO Danny Williams 56.5
37 KING OF SOUL Tony Wildman 56.5
38 LEGENDARY START (NZ) Mathew Ellerton 56.5
39 LIVE BY THE SWORD (NZ) Trevor McKee 56.5
40 LOFTY HEIGHT Gai Waterhouse 56.5
41 LOGGER Gai Waterhouse 56.5
42 MAGIC MARVO Rod Craig 56.5
43 MAHTOUM Kim Moore 56.5
44 MAVERICK (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 56.5
45 MISTER EXPERT Clarry Conners 56.5
46 MONTE GRANDE Noel Mayfield-Smith 56.5
47 MOON MAMBO Gai Waterhouse 56.5
48 MUGSAWAY Gerald Ryan 56.5
49 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 56.5
50 MYSTICAL LAD Tony Wildman 56.5
51 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 56.5
52 NOBLE SPUR Gai Waterhouse 56.5
53 NORDIC EMPEROR Peter Tagg 56.5
54 OCTASONG John Hawkes 56.5
55 OMINOUS John Hawkes 56.5
56 OUALIE Oliver Koolman 56.5
57 OUR AXEMAN Gai Waterhouse 56.5
58 PENETRATOR Gai Waterhouse 56.5
59 PLATINUM SCISSORS Gai Waterhouse 56.5
60 PRIMO PRINCE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 56.5
61 RATA Bart Cummings 56.5
62 ROHATYN (NZ) Robbie Laing 56.5
63 ROUGE HOMME Bruce Cross 56.5
64 SELLIASTRIKE (NZ) Matthew Smith 56.5
65 SESEMANN John Hawkes 56.5
66 SETO STAR John Morish 56.5
67 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 56.5
68 SIR PENTIRE (NZ) Robbie Laing 56.5
69 SO ASSERTIVE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 56.5
70 ST REIMS (NZ) Chris Mcnab 56.5
71 STANFORD Gai Waterhouse 56.5
72 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 56.5
73 SUNRAY (NZ) Paul O'Sullivan 56.5
74 TARA SUCCESS Bob Thomsen 56.5
75 THE FRENCH MASTER John Hawkes 56.5
76 TINTAGEL (NZ) Jim Gibbs 56.5
77 TYCOON RULER Jim Marconi 56.5
78 UNVANQUISHED Bill Mitchell 56.5
79 VITAL AGREEMENT Gai Waterhouse 56.5
80 WHO DID IT Gai Waterhouse 56.5
81 ACACIA BAY Bart Cummings 54.5
82 BULLA BORGHESE Ron Quinton 54.5
83 ETOILE DU NORD (NZ) Roger James 54.5
84 FINE SOCIETY John Hawkes 54.5
85 HIEROGRAM John Hawkes 54.5
86 LAFLEUR (NZ) Jim Gibbs 54.5
87 LASHED Graeme Rogerson 54.5
88 LAVISHLY Grahame Begg 54.5
89 SHOWER OF ROSES (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 54.5
90 STOLEN GLANCES John O'Shea 54.5
91 SUNDAY JOY Gai Waterhouse 54.5
92 THURMAN Ken Newman 54.5

Rogan Josh
13th April 2003, 08:41 AM
Prices at: 07:17:36, 13 Apr 2003 NSWTAB

No. Selection Win Place
164 Platinum Scissors $3.75 $1.65
131 Helenus $4.00 $1.75
157 Natural Blitz $4.50 $1.85
120 Fine Society $9.00 $3.00
135 Hydrometer $9.00 $3.00
111 Clangalang $11.00 $3.50
181 Sunray $11.00 $3.50
176 St Reims $13.00 $4.00
105 Beaver $17.00 $5.00
112 Converge $17.00 $5.00
115 Davidoff $17.00 $5.00
155 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
179 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
180 Sunday Joy $17.00 $5.00
118 Etoile Du Nord $21.00 $6.00
126 Galante $21.00 $6.00
175 So Assertive $21.00 $6.00
102 Amorsolo $26.00 $7.25
109 Bulla Borghese $26.00 $7.25
117 Diamond Jake $26.00 $7.25
133 Hierogram $26.00 $7.25
142 Lashed $26.00 $7.25
149 Mahtoum $26.00 $7.25
172 Shower of Roses $26.00 $7.25
184 Thurman $26.00 $7.25
186 Tycoon Ruler $26.00 $7.25
128 Gallic $34.00 $9.25
161 Ominous $34.00 $9.25
185 Tintagel $34.00 $9.25
145 Live By The Sword $41.00 $11.00
110 Charlie Bub $51.00 $13.50
113 Danehill Treasure $51.00 $13.50
137 Irish Noble $51.00 $13.50
138 Jeremiad $51.00 $13.50
141 Lafleur $51.00 $13.50
158 Noble Spur $51.00 $13.50
163 Penetrator $51.00 $13.50
173 Sir Beal $51.00 $13.50
188 Vital Agreement $51.00 $13.50
108 Boyd $67.00 $17.50
124 Frightening $67.00 $17.50
148 Magic Marvo $67.00 $17.50
168 Rouge Homme $67.00 $17.50
177 Stanford $67.00 $17.50
189 Who Did It $67.00 $17.50
100 Acacia Bay $101.00 $26.00
101 Al Megdam $101.00 $26.00
107 Born To Conquer $101.00 $26.00
114 Danewin Chief $101.00 $26.00
123 Free Cheers $101.00 $26.00
127 Gallant Son $101.00 $26.00
129 Geiger Spirit $101.00 $26.00
143 Lavishly $101.00 $26.00
146 Lofty Height $101.00 $26.00
147 Logger $101.00 $26.00
166 Rata $101.00 $26.00
170 Sesemann $101.00 $26.00
174 Sir Pentire $101.00 $26.00
130 Gobi $126.00 $32.25
136 In Good Time $126.00 $32.25
139 Kablammo $126.00 $32.25
144 Legendary Start $126.00 $32.25
152 Monte Grande $126.00 $32.25
162 Our Axeman $126.00 $32.25
103 Arbitrage $151.00 $38.50
119 Fawaz $151.00 $38.50
122 Fountain Abbey $151.00 $38.50
140 King of Soul $151.00 $38.50
150 Maverick $151.00 $38.50
151 Mister Expert $151.00 $38.50
153 Moon Mambo $151.00 $38.50
160 Octasong $151.00 $38.50
165 Primo Prince $151.00 $38.50
171 Seto Star $151.00 $38.50
178 Stolen Glances $151.00 $38.50
182 Tara Success $151.00 $38.50
183 The French Master $151.00 $38.50
187 Unvanquished $151.00 $38.50
104 Art of War $201.00 $51.00
106 Best Score $201.00 $51.00
116 Derby Parade $201.00 $51.00
121 Foreign Accent $201.00 $51.00
125 Fubutu $201.00 $51.00
132 Heraklid $201.00 $51.00
134 Huka Lodge $201.00 $51.00
154 Mugsaway $201.00 $51.00
156 Mystical Lad $201.00 $51.00
159 Nordic Emperor $201.00 $51.00
169 Selliastrike $201.00 $51.00

Rogan Josh
14th April 2003, 12:53 PM
Prices at: 11:42:14, 14 Apr 2003 NSWTAB

No. Selection Win Place
164 Platinum Scissors $3.75 $1.68
131 Helenus $4.50 $1.85
157 Natural Blitz $4.50 $1.85
120 Fine Society $9.00 $3.00
135 Hydrometer $9.00 $3.00
111 Clangalang $11.00 $3.50
181 Sunray $11.00 $3.50
105 Beaver $17.00 $5.00
112 Converge $17.00 $5.00
115 Davidoff $17.00 $5.00
155 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
176 St Reims $17.00 $5.00
179 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
180 Sunday Joy $17.00 $5.00
175 So Assertive $21.00 $6.00
118 Etoile Du Nord $26.00 $7.25
126 Galante $26.00 $7.25
142 Lashed $26.00 $7.25
149 Mahtoum $26.00 $7.25
109 Bulla Borghese $34.00 $9.25
117 Diamond Jake $34.00 $9.25
128 Gallic $34.00 $9.25
184 Thurman $34.00 $9.25
185 Tintagel $34.00 $9.25
102 Amorsolo $51.00 $13.50
110 Charlie Bub $51.00 $13.50
113 Danehill Treasure $51.00 $13.50
133 Hierogram $51.00 $13.50
137 Irish Noble $51.00 $13.50
138 Jeremiad $51.00 $13.50
141 Lafleur $51.00 $13.50
145 Live By The Sword $51.00 $13.50
158 Noble Spur $51.00 $13.50
163 Penetrator $51.00 $13.50
173 Sir Beal $51.00 $13.50
188 Vital Agreement $51.00 $13.50
108 Boyd $67.00 $17.50
124 Frightening $67.00 $17.50
161 Ominous $67.00 $17.50
177 Stanford $67.00 $17.50
186 Tycoon Ruler $67.00 $17.50
189 Who Did It $67.00 $17.50
100 Acacia Bay $101.00 $26.00
101 Al Megdam $101.00 $26.00
107 Born To Conquer $101.00 $26.00
114 Danewin Chief $101.00 $26.00
123 Free Cheers $101.00 $26.00
127 Gallant Son $101.00 $26.00
129 Geiger Spirit $101.00 $26.00
143 Lavishly $101.00 $26.00
146 Lofty Height $101.00 $26.00
147 Logger $101.00 $26.00
148 Magic Marvo $101.00 $26.00
166 Rata $101.00 $26.00
168 Rouge Homme $101.00 $26.00
170 Sesemann $101.00 $26.00
174 Sir Pentire $101.00 $26.00
130 Gobi $126.00 $32.25
136 In Good Time $126.00 $32.25
139 Kablammo $126.00 $32.25
144 Legendary Start $126.00 $32.25
152 Monte Grande $126.00 $32.25
162 Our Axeman $126.00 $32.25
103 Arbitrage $151.00 $38.50
119 Fawaz $151.00 $38.50
122 Fountain Abbey $151.00 $38.50
140 King of Soul $151.00 $38.50
150 Maverick $151.00 $38.50
151 Mister Expert $151.00 $38.50
153 Moon Mambo $151.00 $38.50
160 Octasong $151.00 $38.50
165 Primo Prince $151.00 $38.50
171 Seto Star $151.00 $38.50
178 Stolen Glances $151.00 $38.50
182 Tara Success $151.00 $38.50
183 The French Master $151.00 $38.50
187 Unvanquished $151.00 $38.50
104 Art of War $201.00 $51.00
106 Best Score $201.00 $51.00
116 Derby Parade $201.00 $51.00
121 Foreign Accent $201.00 $51.00
125 Fubutu $201.00 $51.00
132 Heraklid $201.00 $51.00
134 Huka Lodge $201.00 $51.00
154 Mugsaway $201.00 $51.00
156 Mystical Lad $201.00 $51.00
159 Nordic Emperor $201.00 $51.00
169 Selliastrike $201.00 $51.00
172 Shower of Roses Suspended Suspended

Rogan Josh
14th April 2003, 12:59 PM
Interesting runner Sunray is currently showing $11.00 & $3.50

Sunray has faced the starter in New Zealand seven times, winning five. He has never raced over less than 2000m.

Reports are that Sunray is a genuine stayer and also has very good form against older horses.

He's had a good preparation in New Zealand and should be ready to peak.

Lance O'Sullivan is likely to ride Sunray in the derby.

14th April 2003, 10:32 PM
Can't see anything beating Platinum Scissors,all things being equal,which in horseracing they usually aren't!!Backed Natural Blitz to beat him last week.Was obvious to me that Platinum would need the run,second up over 2000mtrs.was too big an ask in my humble opinion.Now that he is fit and ready I think he will prove too good.Obvious dangers Natural Blitz and Helenus,forget his last run,wasn't suited at WFA and was going around for fitness sake.Don't leave him out of your calculations.

Rogan Josh
15th April 2003, 12:05 PM
No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight
1 HELENUS Leon Corstens Steven King 56.5
2 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison K McEvoy 56.5
3 HYDROMETER Leon Macdonald G Boss 56.5
4 PLATINUM SCISSORS Gai Waterhouse J Cassidy 56.5
5 ST REIMS (NZ) Chris Mcnab G Childs 56.5
6 BEAVER John Hawkes D Beadman 56.5
7 CLANGALANG Gerald Ryan S Seamer 56.5
8 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman D Nikolic 56.5
9 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings D Beasley 56.5
10 ROUGE HOMME Bruce Cross P Ferris 56.5
11 MAHTOUM Kim Moore P Payne 56.5
12 BOYD Doug Harrison S Noll 56.5
13 SUNRAY (NZ) Paul O'Sullivan L A O'Sullivan 56.5
14 SETO STAR John Morish R M Quinn 56.5
15 DAVIDOFF (NZ) Michael Moroney R McLeod 56.5
16 LASHED Graeme Rogerson H Bowman 54.5
17 FINE SOCIETY John Hawkes C Brown 54.5
18 SUNDAY JOY Gai Waterhouse L Beasley 54.5
19E GALANTE (NZ) Bart Cummings N Rawiller 56.5
20E FOUNTAIN ABBEY (NZ) Bruce Wallace 56.5

Rogan Josh
15th April 2003, 03:09 PM
Prices at: 13:45:56, 15 Apr 2003 NSWTAB

No. Selection Win Place
004 Platinum Scissors $4.75 $1.90
001 Helenus $6.00 $2.25
002 Natural Blitz $6.00 $2.25
017 Fine Society $7.50 $2.60
007 Clangalang $9.00 $3.00
018 Sunday Joy $9.00 $3.00
003 Hydrometer $13.00 $4.00
006 Beaver $17.00 $5.00
008 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
013 Sunray $17.00 $5.00
005 St Reims $21.00 $6.00
015 Davidoff $21.00 $6.00
011 Mahtoum $26.00 $7.25
009 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
016 Lashed $34.00 $9.25
019 Galante $67.00 $17.50
010 Rouge Homme $101.00 $26.00
012 Boyd $126.00 $32.25
020 Fountain Abbey $126.00 $32.25
014 Seto Star $151.00 $38.50

BettyBoop
15th April 2003, 05:45 PM
Do like the current odds on offer for the following:

Clangalang $9.00 $3.00
Sunday Joy $9.00 $3.00
Hydrometer $13.00 $4.00
Mummify $17.00 $5.00
Sunray $17.00 $5.00
Lashed $34.00 $9.25

Couple of roughies with a chance:

Rouge Homme $101.00 $26.00
Boyd $126.00 $32.25

Obvious dangers, but a bit too short at the moment:

Platinum Scissors $4.75 $1.90 * My top pick at this stage
Helenus $6.00 $2.25

Cosmo
15th April 2003, 11:29 PM
It's hard to go past Platinum Scissors, should be peaking for this, though would like slightly better odds. Also will be backing Strasbourg e/w.

Thanks for the pointer on Sunray RJ, might have a little nibble there as well.

Good luck to all,
Cheers,
Cosmo

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Cosmo on 2003-04-16 00:30 ]</font>

Rogan Josh
16th April 2003, 04:13 PM
Prices at: 12:14:15, 16 Apr 2003 NSWTAB
No. Selection Win Place
004 Platinum Scissors $4.75 $1.90
002 Natural Blitz $6.00 $2.25
001 Helenus $6.50 $2.35
017 Fine Society $7.50 $2.60
018 Sunday Joy $9.00 $3.00
007 Clangalang $10.00 $3.25
003 Hydrometer $13.00 $4.00
013 Sunray $13.00 $4.00
006 Beaver $17.00 $5.00
008 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
005 St Reims $26.00 $7.25
011 Mahtoum $26.00 $7.25
015 Davidoff $26.00 $7.25
009 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
016 Lashed $41.00 $11.00
019 Galante 1em $67.00 $17.50
010 Rouge Homme $101.00 $26.00
012 Boyd $126.00 $32.25
020 Fountain Abbey 2em $126.00 $32.25
014 Seto Star $151.00 $38.50

Redcraze
17th April 2003, 09:03 AM
HELENUS - PLATINUM SCISSORS - STRASBORG* -
SUNRAY.

Strasborg ew

Cosmo
17th April 2003, 10:14 AM
The more I look at this race the more I lean towards Helenus, espacially with the better odds. Still keen on Strasbourg e/w. Also having both in a few doubles.

Cheers,
Cosmo

Rogan Josh
18th April 2003, 06:45 AM
Prices at: 16:32:22, 17 Apr 2003 NSWTAB

No. Selection Win Place
004 Platinum Scissors $5.00 $2.00
002 Natural Blitz $6.00 $2.25
001 Helenus $6.50 $2.35
013 Sunray $8.00 $2.75
017 Fine Society $8.00 $2.75
007 Clangalang $10.00 $3.25
018 Sunday Joy $10.00 $3.25
003 Hydrometer $13.00 $4.00
008 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
006 Beaver $21.00 $6.00
011 Mahtoum $26.00 $7.25
005 St Reims $31.00 $8.50
009 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
015 Davidoff $34.00 $9.25
016 Lashed $51.00 $13.50
019 Galante 1em $67.00 $17.50
010 Rouge Homme $101.00 $26.00
020 Fountain Abbey 2em $126.00 $32.25
012 Boyd $151.00 $38.50
014 Seto Star $151.00 $38.50

ra sun
18th April 2003, 05:35 PM
Sunray(a special)
Platinum Scissors
Helenus
Clangalang


The trainer really rates Natural Blitz's chances. could be some hope

osulldj
18th April 2003, 06:00 PM
My figures show that the race won by Natural Blitz with Plat Scissors runner up last week was far stronger on pace and speed than the other 3YO lead up races such as the Canterbury and Rosehill Guineas.

The finish of the Rosehill Guineas was extremely bunched with plenty of hard luck stories. That usually indicates a lack of depth and quality about the race...which makes me suspicious. The race won by Natural Blitz had a much more spread out field...with much better overall time and late acceleration.

NB and PS both deserve to be well clear of the others in my view. It's a shame they are both drawn wide and the track is wet. This years Derby looks like a 'chaos' race to me. Very wet track, best chances drawn wide....luck in running, fast lanes, slow lanes on the track will have a big impact.

Rogan Josh
19th April 2003, 07:51 AM
Prices at: 08:20:21, 19 Apr 2003 NSWTAB

No. Selection Win Place
004 Platinum Scissors $5.00 $2.00
002 Natural Blitz $6.00 $2.25
001 Helenus $6.50 $2.35
013 Sunray $8.00 $2.75
017 Fine Society $8.00 $2.75
007 Clangalang $10.00 $3.25
018 Sunday Joy $10.00 $3.25
003 Hydrometer $13.00 $4.00
008 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
006 Beaver $21.00 $6.00
011 Mahtoum $26.00 $7.25
005 St Reims $31.00 $8.50
009 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
015 Davidoff $34.00 $9.25
016 Lashed $51.00 $13.50
010 Rouge Homme $101.00 $26.00
012 Boyd $151.00 $38.50
014 Seto Star $151.00 $38.50
019 Galante 1em Scratched Scratched
020 Fountain Abbey 2em Scratched Scratched

BettyBoop
19th April 2003, 09:32 AM
(1) Helenus, (3) Hydrometer, (13) Sunray, (16) Lashed

TESTAROSSA
19th April 2003, 11:24 AM
(4) Platinum Scissors.
(3) Hydrometer.
(2) Natural Blitz.

At odds (6) Beaver.

20th April 2003, 10:57 PM
To Redcraze and Cosmo,thanks guys!!!Backed Platinum Scissors,but halved my bet due to state of track.Took notice of you guys(thank God)and had an each way "saver"on Strassbourg,$10x$40,and it payed $13.30 the place on Unitab!!Thanks again guys!!

Cosmo
22nd April 2003, 06:38 AM
Nice one Angel, was away for Easter but Strasbourg made up for an ordinary punting betting day Saturday. Great place divie. Had it in 5 doubles going into Derby at prices of up to $2000. Second leg had Dash For Cash (2nd) and Gentle Genius (4/5th - $2000) so would have been having heartattacks
watching the Derby if Strasbourg had saluted. Thought it was going to take it down the straight but Clangalang just too good. Hope all had a win.

Cheers,
Cosmo