LSW 7 Days

[Barny]

Bwahahahaha

Try

TAB 1 to 5
Last 5 runs 2 to 24
Runs since spell > 4
METRO
Last run exactly 7 days ago

Apologies to those who naively think form matters

You could even go to Last 5 runs 3 to 24 ..... Bwahahahahaha

[Barny]

Runs since spell >1, >2, >3

Everything I've posted here shows a Profit. Bwahahahahahahahaha

[darkydog2002]

Ah.Your always good for a giggle Barny..

How about this one.
TAB 6
Won LS by 6 L
Barrier 6
Exactly $6 prepost
LS Exactly 6 days ago

LOL

[Barny]

darkydog2002, I know you don't have a database but what I posted shows a profit ..... absolutely guaranteed. Why absolutely guaranteed ? Coz my database is accurate !

Let's see if someone with a database will confirm this.

the reason i posted this simple system is to once again put paid to those who look for "traditional form", they may get a half decent SR but they wont get a POT ..... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[darkydog2002]

Hi Barny,
Can you run my system through your data base.?
Like to compare it against your results.
Thanks.
Cheers

[Barny]

No

[darkydog2002]

Anyone?

I,m trying to think "outside the Square"

[moeee]

Usual standard of quality posts continue after my months holiday.
Well done guys.
Keep up the good work.

[Barny]

Post deleted. Please do not refer to any member as a "idiot" on this Forum. Thank you. Moderator.

[darkydog2002]

We do our best eh Barn.?

[Vortech]

Bwahahahaha

Try

TAB 1 to 5
Last 5 runs 2 to 24
Runs since spell > 4
METRO
Last run exactly 7 days ago

Apologies to those who naively think form matters

You could even go to Last 5 runs 3 to 24 ..... BwahahahahahaVenue: SMBAW

TAB Number: 1 - 5
Days to LastStart: 7 - 7
Runs thisPreparation: 1 - 3
Last Start FinishPos: 2 - 24
2nd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
3rd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
4th Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24

Jan08 to Dec11
827 Bets
93 Winners
847.50 Return

Rules might be slightly different

[Vortech]

Ah.Your always good for a giggle Barny..

How about this one.
TAB 6
Won LS by 6 L
Barrier 6
Exactly $6 prepost
LS Exactly 6 days ago

LOL
I ran for 2 years with no bets. Gave up

[Barny]

Venue: SMBAW

TAB Number: 1 - 5
Days to LastStart: 7 - 7
Runs thisPreparation: 1 - 3
Last Start FinishPos: 2 - 24
2nd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
3rd Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24
4th Last StartFin Pos: 2 - 24

Jan08 to Dec11
827 Bets
93 Winners
847.50 Return

Rules might be slightly different
Oh yee of little faith darkydog2002, I told you it was a winner, albeit a small POT. Thanks vortech.

A little tweak here and there, maybe concentrate on No. 1 eh ?!

The easy thing is to find systems that show a POT.

[Barny]

Post deleted. Please do not refer to any member as a "idiot" on this Forum. Thank you. Moderator.
I apologise to moee, sorry mod ..........

[moeee]

I apologise to moee, sorry mod ..........
accepted.
Fortunately I managed to resist the temptation to respond earlier.

[darkydog2002]

Vortech,
No bets eh.
A winner already.
Thanks
darky

[Barny]

Any resemblence between Macca's new Lamb burger and 'food' is purely coincidental.

[darkydog2002]

Hey Barn ,
We should team up.
With my brains and your computer we could develop something along the lines of the "World Famous"
i.e Sandown '
R 6 H 12 - 6 - 5 - 9 Min $5

[moeee]

Any resemblence between Macca's new Lamb burger and 'food' is purely coincidental.
How is this related to the thread title?
How is it of any significance to anything on this Forum?

[ianian]

MUST HAVE WON OVER COURSE

MUST BE BEATEN FAV LAST START

SAT METRO B,M,S ONLY

$8 OR LESS

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WORKED FOR 5 YEARS FOR THE WIN

HAVE ONLY FOLLOWED FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS

PLACE SEEMS REALLY GOOD BUT STILL IN FRONT FOR THE WIN AS WELL

WONDER IF SOMEONE CAN RUN FOR A TEST FOR ME

WIN AND PLACE ONLY ABOUT 2 BETS A WEEK ALL WEATHER

BEATEN FAV STRIKE RATE IS ABOUT 17% AT ALL ODDS, THIS IS ALL I KNOW

[Barny]

How is this related to the thread title?
How is it of any significance to anything on this Forum?
Given that I'm the leading poster on this forum and attract a huge following, my well being is of paramount importance to the general excellence of the of the threads here ..... moeee. The Lamb burger tipped me into the realms of mediocrity, a place reserved for ..... well ..... you know who !? It's not where I belong moeee ?!

[darkydog2002]

Well said Barn and with my constant advertising of you as the very best the sky really is the limit for you isn,t it.
Is that you moving into the UK horse racing industry?
Cheers
darky

[mattio]

MUST HAVE WON OVER COURSE

MUST BE BEATEN FAV LAST START

SAT METRO B,M,S ONLY

$8 OR LESS

THIS IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WORKED FOR 5 YEARS FOR THE WIN

HAVE ONLY FOLLOWED FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS

PLACE SEEMS REALLY GOOD BUT STILL IN FRONT FOR THE WIN AS WELL

WONDER IF SOMEONE CAN RUN FOR A TEST FOR ME

WIN AND PLACE ONLY ABOUT 2 BETS A WEEK ALL WEATHER

BEATEN FAV STRIKE RATE IS ABOUT 17% AT ALL ODDS, THIS IS ALL I KNOWI ran a test back to 2008 and found an 11% LOT on over 900 win selections and a 4% LOT for the place. I'll see if I can find any filters make it profitable.

Mat.

[ianian]

THANKS MATTIO THE ONY OTHER THING WAS T/D DID NOT SEEM TO WORK ONLY COURSE.THE ONLY OTHER THINGS I CAN THINK OF IS WEIGHT DROP OF NO MORE THAN -.5KG TO HELP CLASS THEM OR MUST BE GOING UP IN DISTANCE BY 100m OR MORE -I THINK PLACE STRIKE RATE OF 60% OR MORE AS THE PLACE IS CLOSE AND I LIKE THAT.BUT DUE TO SO FEW BETS I DONT KNOW.

[ianian]

THE OTHER THING WAS THE PERSON WHO PAST IT ON WAS BETTING USING- BOB- MAY BE THIS MAKES A DIFFRENCE -BEST OF THE BEST- TF AND THREE TOTES.

[mattio]

Sydney and Melbourne are duds mate, Bris shows a profit and I am now testing Adelaide and Perth.

[gunny72]

Include a rule that no more than 5 runs from a spell.

[mattio]

Hi ianian,

With a few changes to venue and some race and horse filters I have come up with the following:

Selections - 297
Winners - 98
Return - 399
S/R - 33%
POT - 34%

Longest run of outs in the test period (1/1/2008-31/8/2012) was 9 and the system shows a 7% POT on place bets as I think its a big positive if a system shows a place profit. There won't be a lot of action but to me it looks like a system that could be worth forward testing.

Would you like me to email you the full rules or are you happy for me to post them here?

Cheers,

Mat.

[ianian]

Happy for you to post them here as i have got a lot from the people who have posted here.

[mattio]

Ok mate, here is the system rules for you:

Saturday Metro Bris, Adel, Perth
Beaten Favourite Last Start
Won At the Course
Price $2-$8 - no odds on
Metro Run Last Start
Tab Number 1-8
Race Distance - 1600+
Exclude All Races With First Up Horses (obviously there are no bets on first up horses)
Exclude All Fillies/Mares/Fillies & Mares Races

These filters are pretty straight forward and should allow for repeatable results but it would be a good idea to test for a while, good luck with it.

Cheers,

Mat.

[Barny]

IMHO this cannot work long term as it's backfitted within an inch of it's life conveniently leaving out Melb and Syd.

[mattio]

Then its a good thing I don't much consider your opinions. There are minimal horse filters and minimal race filters so saying its "backfitted to an inch of its life" just shows that you have no idea.

[Barny]

Then its a good thing I don't much consider your opinions. There are minimal horse filters and minimal race filters so saying its "backfitted to an inch of its life" just shows that you have no idea.To selectively leave out the two biggest venues in the land is backfitted in anyone's language mattio. It confirms the filters are not worth the paper they're printed on. But good luck with it mattio, at least you're consistent.

[mattio]

Really Barny, you want to go hacking on me about my systems? Considering you have some "secret" filters that give 90% POT but only 1-2 selections per month.....you don't think that is backfitted?

If I am so consitent why don't you show me some other systems I have posted that are doomed to fail?

I am going to refrain from what I really think as I don't wish to have a holiday but all I can say is that I still believe you have no idea and I'm pretty sure I am not alone.

[ianian]

Thanks for that but I have another system which worked well for me for the last few years but stopped a few months ago to move onto other things the rules were.

Must open under $3 this could be subbed for under $3 prepost for test.

Must have won last start

Must have T/D or C

This gave about 2 to 3 bet a week

The only reason I think it made money was top flc or bob so it was more the better price than good selection as they should be over bet – I have always found there was more money in the short horses than the longer prices-out of interest once when doing over’s going to the track-all the money I made all up 6% on turnover a bit up and down- this is also the best I have achieved on anything long term( even though this obvious system did return better than that- but and a big but if they canceled my account and I had to go to the track with out the online advantage not worth the risk I hope it turns out otherwise) but if I deleted all horses rated 3/1 and over this improved t/o greatly. This profit also came down to the difference between starting price and the price I got so not worth the risk long term for me.

At least people will see the results of something I tried in the real world.

I am thankful for all the help on the other system and its amazing people I have never met are so helpful not really my experience in the real world.

[Barny]

Really Barny, you want to go hacking on me about my systems? Considering you have some "secret" filters that give 90% POT but only 1-2 selections per month.....you don't think that is backfitted?

If I am so consitent why don't you show me some other systems I have posted that are doomed to fail?

I am going to refrain from what I really think as I don't wish to have a holiday but all I can say is that I still believe you have no idea and I'm pretty sure I am not alone.

Surely you are educated enough to express your thoughts without using profanity or getting too personal which may lead to a suspension. I eagerly await your critique.

[ianian]

This system again was B/S/M/A METRO SAT ONLY to rely on the better class horses.

[moeee]

hacking on me.
LOLL!! mattio
Lol about Barny opinions and Lol about hacking , which you may have found from the Young Guns Movie the other night.

Please do not allow another member to bait you mattio and you fall victim to the enforced holiday.
It happened to me and it didn't seem fair nor right.

[mattio]

Why bother, you will still think my systems are rediculously backfitted and yours aren't and I will still think you have no idea, nothing will get resolved so let's leave it at that.

[mattio]

Good advice moeee, I don't suffer fools lightly which is why I often get a little too defensive.

Geez, I haven't seen Young Guns for years....... :)

[Barny]

Why bother, you will still think my systems are rediculously backfitted and yours aren't and I will still think you have no idea, nothing will get resolved so let's leave it at that.
Didn't think you'd be able to back up your assertions mattio ..... Your system leaving out Melb and Syd is similar to targetting selected racecourses just because there was some success in the past, regardless of the fact it's illogical.

My systems, granted they have few bets, are based on logic. Yes, I do have several filters that can be applied to any logical system and guaranteed to improve the POT. There have been many systems posted on here claiming POT's of 50% to 100% which when tested for logic cannot possibly stand the test of time, and, when tested on an accurate database over a decent trial period show a loss, not the POT claimed. One prolific poster of systems must have a very friendly database that only shows up POT no matter what rubbish is entered.

My systems are logical and also shy away from what is traditionally sought after by 99% of punters. You can backfit anything mattio but without logic it wont be successful.

Hope this has been of some help to you mattio, and your new found buddy moeee.

[mattio]

Barny, you are obviously of the belief that all filters work on all tracks and in all states, this is simply not true. Sydney and Melbourne have so many tracks that all play differently whereas Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth have only a couple of tracks making the racing much more consistent, even if the class of racing is not as strong.

The same goes for ratings and pre-post prices, some have much better success in certain states and even certain tracks so "blanketing" everything is not logical.

If you were smart you would use your database to find what works best at different tracks, states, meeting types (M,P,C) and any number of other variables. I have started betting a new group of systems that are based on strengths at certain tracks and so far my forward testing has mirrored by backtesting - today at Cranbourne was a great example with winners in races 1,2 5 (check the divs) from only 5 selections.

If you can't/won't agree with the statements I have made then you are oblivious to any kind of reasoning and I wish you all the best with your own systems. Mine do just fine and I actually bet on them as well.

[Vortech]

By Leaving out the main Metro tracks can sometimes work under certain filters. Under no circumstance does it mean its filtered.

Why would you critised someone trying to help another member with a couple of new filters to their original system. It helps the POT out and gets some interest out of the other member.

Horse racing and punting is not all about one way is the only way.

[ianian]

I can see that it would properly work better with distance horses because they run to get fit and can be misjudged were as over the shorter distances could be good lays for a varity of reasons. I agree with the tab numbers as the handicapper can class better than I can and I have always used tab number to separate horses rather than price –this is more of an average thing so long as you use it with reason.( Sydney and Melbourne have so many tracks that all play differently whereas Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth have only a couple of tracks making the racing much more consistent, even if the class of racing is not as strong.)The track part I am not sure and what you say makes sence. So for me that system comes down to one factor the best price markets are Syd and Melb looking at the bookies % and not that it wont work long term but for me the fact that it doesn’t work in these two states only adds to the percentage you have to beat long term. If it was the other way around great but you can only work with the figures you have and its best to know rather than continue on blindly with out any chance and so the facts are don’t bet in Syd or Melb or under 1600 meters and stay with the better class horses.

[ianian]

The other thing for Syd and Melb may be the class rises are greater ,simply meaning if you cant win one grade down your chances are greatly reduced be cause you really do meet a better horse. I have never seen a study on horse’s wins or placings going up or down in class let alone on diffrent tracks have always worked on the assumption that a horse in the same or down in class would be a better chance given all being equal over time but have no idea how this affects price.

[ianian]

The other thing for Syd and Melb may be the class rises are greater simply meaning if you cant win one grade down your chances are greatly reduced be cause you really do meet a better horse. I have never seen a study on horse’s wins or placings going up or down in class have always worked on the assumption that a horse in the same or down in class would be a better chance given all being equal over time but have no idea how this affects price.

Just reading through prepost prices I once did a study going back 5 years using the Courier Mail Syd /Bris not so good but in Melb it broke even at starting price- still had a health run of outs- this was a long time ago and properly gives me a Melb bias I still wonder if we had bob back then how I would have gone. This brings back memories, I also remember the top rated in the sportsman when it was No 1 also broke even over the same period B/S/M These are both one rule could be a good start.

[mattio]

ianian,

Because Sydney and Melbourne have the best racing and the better class of horses, you can assume that the races are going to be harder to win with all these good horses competing for the bigger prizemoney so it is logical (?!) that there could be an edge to looking outside of these areas when we are talking about a mechanical system.

When it comes to the way I develop systems I look at filters that either eliminate horses or eliminate races, eliminating poor races is just as effective as eliminating poor horses and from a systems point of view, sometimes races form punters view as good betting races can actually be poor from a system point of view.

These are just my thoughts mate, I do quite well from the systems I develop but always test yourself as past results don't guarantee future profits. Good luck.

On the subject of pre-post there are some absolute gems to be had using the pre-post favourite as the starting filter.

Cheers,

Mat.

[rails run]

ianian,

Because Sydney and Melbourne have the best racing and the better class of horses, you can assume that the races are going to be harder to win with all these good horses competing for the bigger prizemoney so it is logical (?!) that there could be an edge to looking outside of these areas when we are talking about a mechanical system.

When it comes to the way I develop systems I look at filters that either eliminate horses or eliminate races, eliminating poor races is just as effective as eliminating poor horses and from a systems point of view, sometimes races form punters view as good betting races can actually be poor from a system point of view.

These are just my thoughts mate, I do quite well from the systems I develop but always test yourself as past results don't guarantee future profits. Good luck.

On the subject of pre-post there are some absolute gems to be had using the pre-post favourite as the starting filter.

Cheers,

Mat.
Well constructed Mattio. You are spot on the money here. Eliminating losing situations is vital to making a profit. Some will call it back-fitting, but when you have done the work you know you now have a clear view of the future. You are a closer knit to Logic than any imposter. Thanks for your contribution.

[mattio]

Thanks RR, your comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Mat.

[ianian]

I under stand about the race class thing as I have found group racing was really bad for 1st and 2nd P/P favs which is why they are properly good value for over’s as the percentage has to go somewhere owing to the fact every body wants a piece of the good horse and the bookies don’t have a problem laying them.

Even though I generally don’t bet in maid through to class 5 as a rule more so to rely on class helping the form and sometimes its hard to break old habits from doing form as systems are about finding the winner at the right price any where you can which is not quite the same as doing from because you need the form to work across the field to give you the best chance of success on overs.

[mattio]

I under stand about the race class thing as I have found group racing was really bad for 1st and 2nd P/P favs which is why they are properly good value for over’s as the percentage has to go somewhere owing to the fact every body wants a piece of the good horse and the bookies don’t have a problem laying them.

Even though I generally don’t bet in maid through to class 5 as a rule more so to rely on class helping the form and sometimes its hard to break old habits from doing form as systems are about finding the winner at the right price any where you can which is not quite the same as doing from because you need the form to work across the field to give you the best chance of success on overs.I used to do form but it is very hard to watch your best bet of the day that you spent hours on research and videos to come up with either a)miss the start, b)get bumped or checked from a slow horse, c)get slaughtered by the jockey, d)not want to race that day e)get distracted by a nice looking filly (haven't we all?) or f)any other reason or all of the above.

I prefer to spend my hours researching my systems now and if a selection wins that's great and if it loses I don't stress because I know I will have another gem thrown up again in the near future or even in the next race. The most important thing is to do what works well for YOU, stick with it and refine it where you can.

Cheers,

Mat.

[The Ocho]

e, especially if your horse is a filly as well......not that there's anything wrong with that.

[ianian]

Its not so funny you should that as when betting in class racing for over’s I always eliminated filly and mare or both types of races and here we are again many years later so there must be something to it.

[beton]

I only hope that the moderator puts things into perspective and sees where the real contribution to the forum is, which is the purpose of the forum and which gets and retains members in the forum. It is about sharing and constructive critique.

[Lord Greystoke]

Beton, given that UBs system host is yet to submit to the baton pressure of my goon squad...

Can you do a wee test for me(no need for the test jar mate)?

Selection: Tab No 1
Filter: Fav at jump AND/OR Barrier no 1


Cheers LG

[garyf]

Barny, you are obviously of the belief that all filters work on all tracks and in all states, this is simply not true. Sydney and Melbourne have so many tracks that all play differently whereas Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth have only a couple of tracks making the racing much more consistent, even if the class of racing is not as strong.

The same goes for ratings and pre-post prices, some have much better success in certain states and even certain tracks so "blanketing" everything is not logical.

If you were smart you would use your database to find what works best at different tracks, states, meeting types (M,P,C) and any number of other variables. I have started betting a new group of systems that are based on strengths at certain tracks and so far my forward testing has mirrored by backtesting - today at Cranbourne was a great example with winners in races 1,2 5 (check the divs) from only 5 selections.

If you can't/won't agree with the statements I have made then you are oblivious to any kind of reasoning and I wish you all the best with your own systems. Mine do just fine and I actually bet on them as well.I had to look 3-4 times at who posted this as i thought it must be me,
As apart from the winners at Cranbourne this is exactly what i would,
Have answered basically word for word as this is exactly what i do(doing)

Cheers.
Gary Mattio.

[beton]

Beton, given that UBs system host is yet to submit to the baton pressure of my goon squad...

Can you do a wee test for me(no need for the test jar mate)?

Selection: Tab No 1
Filter: Fav at jump AND/OR Barrier no 1


Cheers LG
Sorry LG can not at the present. B

[Lord Greystoke]

OK mate

[ianian]

ROFLACGU: Rolling on the floor laughing and can't get up.

IMHO: Is my hearing aid on?

[Barny]

Back to where we were without the distractions of personal attacks. I very kindly put up a winning system that didn't have the usual 'form'. I also alluded in my posts to just considering TAB 1. So here are the rules as posted plus the inclusion of only TAB 1.

TAB 1
Last 5 runs 2 to 24
Runs since spell > 4
METRO
Last run exactly 7 days ago

It shows a POT of 27.02% and given the cyclical nature of racing it's not enough to be confident that it will continue to repeat. Agreed? A POT of 27.02% sounds good but you might all of a sudden have a couple of losing years.

So dudes, where else recently on this forum have you been given a system that shows a POT of 27.02% ???? With one more filter I get the POT at 81.29% which is good enough to ride out the cyclical nature of racing and show a profit year on year.

[norisk]

So just put your feet up Barns & let the mula roll in, jobs done by the sounds of it...

[Barny]

Pretty much .....

[Vortech]

Send through the next time there is a selection.

Be interesting to see if the POT can be maintained.

[moeee]

It shows a POT of 27.02%
How many selections are there in your sample?

[Barny]

How many selections are there in your sample?
Enough .....

As posted, it's actually not one of my systems, I was just playing around with a few ideas to prove a point that 99% of punters just need to see a 1 somewhere in the form, and all that leads to is a LOT over time. LSW 7 days has been around for yonks, LS 7 days no-wins, I cannot remember seeing, can you moeee ??? But there it is ..... 27.02% and I'm sure someone with a database will verify it.

It's not rocket science moeee ..... You just need to change your thinking from SR to POT

[Barny]

Back to where we were without the distractions of personal attacks. I very kindly put up a winning system that didn't have the usual 'form'. I also alluded in my posts to just considering TAB 1. So here are the rules as posted plus the inclusion of only TAB 1.

TAB 1
Last 5 runs 2 to 24
Runs since spell > 4
METRO
Last run exactly 7 days ago

It shows a POT of 27.02% and given the cyclical nature of racing it's not enough to be confident that it will continue to repeat. Agreed? A POT of 27.02% sounds good but you might all of a sudden have a couple of losing years.

So dudes, where else recently on this forum have you been given a system that shows a POT of 27.02% ???? With one more filter I get the POT at 81.29% which is good enough to ride out the cyclical nature of racing and show a profit year on year.
If you restrict to geldings and then more than 20 sts the POT increases to 34.4%, but that's just mucking around with it really ..... backfitting in spades and that's no good at all.

[moeee]

Enough .....

In other words you can't answer.
Just Pie in the Sky.

Enough is a good word as I depart
I'm with mattio.

In case you feel I am ignoring you in the future Barny , It is because you are on my ignore List.

[darkydog2002]

The Gravy Train selection just posted.
Good luck.

[ianian]

Must open under $3 early markets this could be subbed for under $3 prepost for test.

Must have won last start

Must have T/D or C

tested on free screener from 2006 sat metro

B/S 9% LOSS ON TURN OVER

MELB 10% PROFIT ON T/O

so can assume the only profit to be had was in getting better than starting price all up

[Barny]

In case you feel I am ignoring you in the future Barny , It is because you are on my ignore List.
How many on your ignore list moeee?

[Barny]

Still shows a decent POT of 13.59% without the filter METRO, ie; it includes all events, even maidens !! Funny that. I recall many years ago sportznut posted a great TW system, or was it No. 1 system. The basis was 1 to 4 in it's last 4 runs, so taking out the wins, the results improve.

[darkydog2002]

I just dreamt this one up.

I call it "The Lazy Mans Way To Riches"

TAB 1

Having 3rd Start in this preparation

Last 2 Starts improving but LS 1 - 4
i.e 64,32, 41 etc

Genius or what?

[Barny]

Start up your own thread darkydog2002 and don't hijack this one.

[darkydog2002]

Aw.I thought this one was to do with thinking outside the square.
Unappreciative lot.

[Barny]

Aw.I thought this one was to do with thinking outside the square.
Unappreciative lot.
A circle has an infinite number of sides - True

"If you want to buy marijuana please press the hash key" .....

[darkydog2002]

Ah Good.
So I,m Ok to add my "quality" thoughts then,
Cheers

[Vortech]

Darky check out horses that are TAB no 1 and 1st at the racetrack on the morning.

Trainers believe they get more used the atmosphere and allows the horse to get in some early stretches.

[Barny]

Ah Good.
So I,m Ok to add my "quality" thoughts then,
Cheers
Absolutely darkydog2002 .....

I can't stop singing "The Green Green Grass of Home" ..... "Sounds like you've got Tom Jones syndrome!" ..... "Oh dear, ..... is it common?" ..... "It's not unusual"

[darkydog2002]

Hmm.
There ya go Barn.
Only needs 1 person with a quality thought and others will follow.

This may turn out the "Thread of The Year"

Cheers.

[Barny]

Darky check out horses that are TAB no 1 and 1st at the racetrack on the morning.

Trainers believe they get more used the atmosphere and allows the horse to get in some early stretches.
Beats anything I've ever posted, hands down. I bask in the sunshine of your intellectual briliance Vortech.

[Vortech]

Darky your the Karl Marx on the 21st Century!!!!

[Vortech]

Beats anything I've ever posted, hands down. I bask in the sunshine of your intellectual briliance Vortech.
Inspired by the Unleash the Beast!!!!

[Barny]

Geez ..... lol,

Vortech, that's the single funniest thing I've read on this forum.

[darkydog2002]

Thank you Vortech.
I try to help the poor unfortunates.
The fellers at the pie stall love my intellectual brilliance and the day old pies I sling em.
I often wonder what they like the most.
Cheers

[Barny]

Darky check out horses that are TAB no 1 and 1st at the racetrack on the morning.

Trainers believe they get more used the atmosphere and allows the horse to get in some early stretches.
................... ROTFLMAO (Still !!!!!!!)

[darkydog2002]

Hey Barny ,
You got anything coming up today.
I,ve got The Multi coming up at Geelong.R 8
Have to leave at 5.10 PM so anything before then would be great.

[Vortech]

Kalgoorlie (http://tatts.com/racing/2012/9/7/FT) Race 6 Number one for the Trots.

At the track at least 50 minutes before any other beast.

Watch this thing fly!!!

[darkydog2002]

Geelong Abandoned.
Vortech will watch with interest (and so will Barny I betcha)

[jose]

Not having a dig Vortech but how are gathering this info?
One would assume that only those at the venue would be in the know.

[Barny]

Hey Barny ,
You got anything coming up today.
I,ve got The Multi coming up at Geelong.R 8
Have to leave at 5.10 PM so anything before then would be great.Darkydog2002, I'm out ..... You know how runners (athletes) stick one leg on a fence to stretch, well, I cannot get the picture out of my mind of a horse doing exactly that ..... thanks to Vortech.

I'll be making even less sense in the foreseeable future than I normally do.

[darkydog2002]

Good Question Jose.?

[Vortech]

Most of the trainers and jockeys now have electronic tags on their motor vehicles as a crack down on money laundring.

You can monitor the vehicles and based on the horses doing their pre-star jumps in the horse float apprxomiately 5-7 minutes you can calculate the arrival time.

The confusing element comes when their the arrivals are either by plane or car.

also when its the home track and put the calculations out a little.

[mattio]

I had to look 3-4 times at who posted this as i thought it must be me,
As apart from the winners at Cranbourne this is exactly what i would,
Have answered basically word for word as this is exactly what i do(doing)

Cheers.
Gary Mattio.Thanks Gary, coming from someone as well respected as you are on this forum your opinion and thoughts mean alot and the fact that you do this professionally shows that it is in fact logical and works.

Cheers,

Mat.

[Vortech]

Kalgoorlie (http://tatts.com/racing/2012/9/7/FT) Race 6 Number one for the Trots.

At the track at least 50 minutes before any other beast.

Watch this thing fly!!!
A Boilover!
Horse 2 gets up at $102.00 the win.

[Vortech]

A Boilover!
Horse 2 gets up at $102.00 the win.
I'll stick with my international bets on song tonight
Two to go in

Kranji 8 - 4 Lightning Thief
Cheptstow 2 - 2 Croeso Mawr