weekly income

[Benny]

I have put together a betting bank of $500 betting 2% I would like to make a weekly income of between $200 and $300 a week.

I bet 2 to 3 horses in a race e/w at the best odds.

Any ideas.

[beton]

Benny.
You come across as super super careful and super super cautious. Therefore any suggestions here are not going to meet your psychological parameters and therefore a waste of time. Going from memory you want low turnover and high POT in lieu of high turnover and low POT. Hence your opportunities are limited. You are faced with increasing your stake or the number of bets.

What ever you are doing now is working so continue it increasing your bets as a percentage of your bank. As your bank builds so will your profits. This will not be fast but it will meet your psyche. The otherway is increase the number of bets. I don't think that you are going to accept a lower POT so you have to find more systems that suit, and thus increase your number of bets. Happy New Year

[beton]

At $10 per bet and 50% POT you are going to need 40 bets a week or 1 race in every 8 to win $200 per week. You sound like you want to have this as income. You should at least leave $50 per week to build up your bank. Have you got enough systems to give you 40 bets per week? Do your systems give you 50% POT? At $15 per you need 27 bets per week and $20 you need 20 bets. So you have to grow your bank to make it easier. The bigger the POT the larger the runs of outs which means greater the draw down.

You have to give a bit more info.

[moeee]

Do your systems give you 50% POT?
Do YOURS Beton?
I have fooled myself into thinking I was making 16% POT.
But what happened was I just picked a suitable Time frame.
I can't be actually losing because My Bank is still higher than it was when I started - but the 16% was just wishful thinking.
But 50% is unrealistic , and I suggest you improve your record keeping if you think you are anywhere close to that figure.

[Benny]

At $10 per bet and 50% POT you are going to need 40 bets a week or 1 race in every 8 to win $200 per week. You sound like you want to have this as income. You should at least leave $50 per week to build up your bank. Have you got enough systems to give you 40 bets per week? Do your systems give you 50% POT? At $15 per you need 27 bets per week and $20 you need 20 bets. So you have to grow your bank to make it easier. The bigger the POT the larger the runs of outs which means greater the draw down.

You have to give a bit more info.

I have 3 systems that average around 50 bets a week. I bet 10 e/w either the tote or fixed.

[beton]

Do YOURS Beton?
I have fooled myself into thinking I was making 16% POT.
But what happened was I just picked a suitable Time frame.
I can't be actually losing because My Bank is still higher than it was when I started - but the 16% was just wishful thinking.
But 50% is unrealistic , and I suggest you improve your record keeping if you think you are anywhere close to that figure.
Moeee
You are jumping in again and firing from the hip. I would sooner back or lay at 10% POT and have volume. The issue is not about me or what I do. I am very satisfied with what I do. You have NO IDEA what I do NOR HOW I DO IT. the issue is about Benny. If you go back on Benny's previous posts you will know that Benny has stated that he prefers high POT and has several systems that he is working with. You will also know that he started with pennies and now got to $500. Better than most. Some of my bets are $500.
Benny has asked for advice and I have attempted to give him some. Why don't you do likewise.

[aussielongboat]

I have put together a betting bank of $500 betting 2% I would like to make a weekly income of between $200 and $300 a week.

I bet 2 to 3 horses in a race e/w at the best odds.

Any ideas.
in the fullness of time you will be lucky to see 5% POT.
and i mean lucky.
- and you can take that to the bank.

assuming that though - to make 250 per week you will need to T/O 5k per week.
you will need a bank of about 200x or 300x your bet size.

if you think you have a POT greater than 10% just let it run for a bit longer and see how it goes.


most important ingredient is where you place the bets.
best tote or BF can improve that heaps. but the Corporate bookmakers will close you if you look like you can win or at least not consistently loose.

my opinion on the 2nd part - cast iron on the first re POT.
all this talk about 50% POT well that's just data fitting and back fitting at that.



cheers
Aussie

[moeee]

Benny has asked for advice and I have attempted to give him some. Why don't you do likewise.
I have no further advice for Benny.
But have advice for you Beton.
Take some chill pills.
We all have losing periods , but this Festive season you appear to be slamming members that disagree with your thoughts.

[Mr. Logic]

I have put together a betting bank of $500 betting 2% I would like to make a weekly income of between $200 and $300 a week.

I bet 2 to 3 horses in a race e/w at the best odds.

Any ideas.


My comment:

Now where shall I advertise, "Fed up with working. Or are you unemployed? All you need is a $2000 betting bank and I'll show you how to make a tax free income of $800 to $1200 a week!"

[SpeedyBen]

I have put together a betting bank of $500 betting 2% I would like to make a weekly income of between $200 and $300 a week.

I bet 2 to 3 horses in a race e/w at the best odds.

Any ideas.Good luck with that, Benny. If you are able to win $200 to $300 per week from a $500 bank I'll salute you as a wonder punter.
I aim for $150 per day, 5 days per week but you could add a couple of zeros to the bank size you quoted.

[moeee]

My comment:

Now where shall I advertise, "Fed up with working. Or are you unemployed? All you need is a $2000 betting bank and I'll show you how to make a tax free income of $800 to $1200 a week!"
Well i have a little more than that to invest , and would be happy with a return similar to what Benny suggested.

Where do I apply Mister?

[Benny]

My comment:

Now where shall I advertise, "Fed up with working. Or are you unemployed? All you need is a $2000 betting bank and I'll show you how to make a tax free income of $800 to $1200 a week!"

I retired early due to a slight heart attack. I have $3000 in one of my online bookie accounts. Now how do I make the income you suggested. Please let me know.

[beton]

What are the SR and POT of each of your systems and how many bets for each system per week?

[moeee]

What are the SR and POT of each of your systems and how many bets for each system per week?
Now you got the right approach Beton.
I figure these details may not be forthcoming though.

[Benny]

Now you got the right approach Beton.
I figure these details may not be forthcoming though.

they will as soon as I unpack everything. I recently moved into a 2 bedroom unit.

[moeee]

You have been TOUd. Post moderated. Sexist posts are not permitteed here. Moderator.

[ianian]

I look at it this way – 500 bank-250 a week – double your bank each fortnight- I month 2000- next month 8000 – -32000 – 125000 bad month – $500000 – – all this 5 months – and you only wanted 250 per week

[aussielongboat]

I look at it this way – 500 bank-250 a week – double your bank each fortnight- I month 2000- next month 8000 – -32000 – 125000 bad month – $500000 – – all this 5 months – and you only wanted 250 per week

and never lose and no run of outs.
it is so simple

[macs]

Benny, if you don't use software and have access to a $3,000 bank I would suggest taking a look at short priced place systems. The returns per race are small but so are the outs and with 3 grand you'll make your $200-$300 per week. If you can't find what I'm talking about PM me here and I'll point you in the right direction.

[moeee]

I would suggest taking a look at short priced place systems. The returns per race are small but so are the outs and with 3 grand you'll make your $200-$300 per week.
If it were as simple as that wouldn't everyone be doing it?
Perhaps this area doesn't suit everyone.
A bit like being offerred a job cleaning toilets.

[Benny]

Benny, if you don't use software and have access to a $3,000 bank I would suggest taking a look at short priced place systems. The returns per race are small but so are the outs and with 3 grand you'll make your $200-$300 per week. If you can't find what I'm talking about PM me here and I'll point you in the right direction.

pdaniels450@hotmail.com

[macs]

You have been TOUd. You are welcome to disagree, but please be polite about it. Post deleted. Moderator.

[moeee]

Off topic. Moderator.

[macs]

I've sent you 2 emails Benny, the second has an attachment but it's virus free.

[Jack]

I would suggest taking a look at short priced place systems. The returns per race are small but so are the outs If you can't find what I'm talking about PM me here and I'll point you in the right direction.Hi macs,
Please advise of the of the place system that you speak of or where is it found.

Thanks

[Jack]

I would suggest taking a look at short priced place systems. The returns per race are small but so are the outs If you can't find what I'm talking about PM me here and I'll point you in the right direction.Hi macs,
Please advise of the of the place system that you speak of or where is it found.

Regards

agean31@optusnetdotcomdotau (cryptic)

[shifty]

Post deleted. Referring to a now moderated post. Moderator.

[lomaca]

Off topic. Moderator.

[shifty]

Off topic. Moderator.

[lomaca]

Off topic. Moderator.

[mattio]

Off topic. Moderator.

[Lord Greystoke]

Thinking cap on now - here goes...

What I think happens in a forum like this is that comments can very easily get misconstrued. One reason is that without seeing a person's face or hearing the tone in their voice, body language etc... we will often use other clues to come to conclusions about what a person actually means by the words they post. eg previous posting history, style, reputation etc

Having said that, I have observed that one or 2 posters often appear to post without thinking of the context of the thread and the thoughts, feelings, preferences of other posters - just their own particular preferences and style and motives i.e. "it's all about me"

I have nothing against freedom of speech and expressing one's thoughts, ideas etc but what I object to is people who don't mind stomping all over someone else without giving that person a reasonable degree of respect as an individual, no matter what their point of view or preferred focus - whether that be in here or the real world out there.

Somebody once said that the true meaning of a message lies in the message received (rather than the message we meant to deliver).

We might all do well to keep this in mind into the new year (myself included, of course)

Just my thoughts!

Cheers LG

[lomaca]

Thinking cap on now - here goes...

What I think happens in a forum like this is that comments can very easily get misconstrued. One reason is that without seeing a person's face or hearing the tone in their voice, body language etc... we will often use other clues to come to conclusions about what a person actually means by the words they post. eg previous posting history, style, reputation etc

Having said that, I have observed that one or 2 posters often appear to post without thinking of the context of the thread and the thoughts, feelings, preferences of other posters - just their own particular preferences and style and motives i.e. "it's all about me"

I have nothing against freedom of speech and expressing one's thoughts, ideas etc but what I object to is people who don't mind stomping all over someone else without giving that person a reasonable degree of respect as an individual, no matter what their point of view or preferred focus - whether that be in here or the real world out there.

Somebody once said that the true meaning of a message lies in the message received (rather than the message we meant to deliver).

We might all do well to keep this in mind into the new year (myself included, of course)

Just my thoughts!

Cheers LGAll well and good but the meat of the post was the offer of having a bank of $3000 and earning betw. $2 and 3 hundred a week

"In that case I offer up that standard response myself, show me a system/method call it whatever that by investing $3000 you will get a weekly return of let's just say $100 never mind 2 or 3 hundred and I will pay $5000 for it."

My offer still stands and in CASH!

shifty did not have a bone to pick with that?
Strange wouldn't you say?

Pick a fight where there was none to be had, instead?
Stranger still!

[moeee]

Off topic. Moderator.

[Lord Greystoke]

Off topic. Moderator.

[Lord Greystoke]

All well and good but the meat of the post was the offer of having a bank of $3000 and earning betw. $2 and 3 hundred a week

"In that case I offer up that standard response myself, show me a system/method call it whatever that by investing $3000 you will get a weekly return of let's just say $100 never mind 2 or 3 hundred and I will pay $5000 for it."

My offer still stands and in CASH!

shifty did not have a bone to pick with that?
Strange wouldn't you say?

Pick a fight where there was none to be had, instead?
Stranger still!

My post was a direct response to that above mine (Post No. 31 - Mattio) and also with regards my general observations in here over the last 9 months or so.

Cheers LG

[Vortech]

All well and good but the meat of the post was the offer of having a bank of $3000 and earning betw. $2 and 3 hundred a week

"In that case I offer up that standard response myself, show me a system/method call it whatever that by investing $3000 you will get a weekly return of let's just say $100 never mind 2 or 3 hundred and I will pay $5000 for it."

My offer still stands and in CASH!

shifty did not have a bone to pick with that?
Strange wouldn't you say?

Pick a fight where there was none to be had, instead?
Stranger still!
invest ya $3000 in a coffee shop on wheels and head out to Doomben and Eagle Farm on the early mornings. You'll turnover $200 to $300 each week.

[lomaca]

invest ya $3000 in a coffee shop on wheels and head out to Doomben and Eagle Farm on the early mornings. You'll turnover $200 to $300 each week.Absolutely no offense meant but I think you did not read the OP and mistakenly translated it to something else. In a way you accidentally confirm moeee's point, of buying a job cleaning dunnies.

The offer if I'm correct, and please point out if I'm not, was that having a bank of $3000 and contacting the poster he will reveal a system producing a weekly income of btw. $200 and $300.

My offer of $5000 for said system stands, as a matter of fact I up the anti and offer ten thousand.

Still a very good business! Imagine $5200 yearly return on $3K?
Any investor would go for dentures for that sort of opportunity, never mind eye tooth.

[moeee]

Lomaca.
I have never really noticed it before.
But you are quite amusing.
Amusing , entertaining and absolutely correct.

[SpeedyBen]

This one lomaca. It's not political correctness, it's just about good manners and respect.Mate
When I read that comment I took it as tongue in cheek. Still do.

[Mark]

Lomaca,

when I get home from Japan in 8 days, for your $10,000, I will offer you a weeks bed & board including the full weeks tuition on how to make at least $350 per week ($50 per day) with only $500 in your BF account and never risking any more than $50 when a race jumps (very maximum & also extremely unlikely) of your account.

I make this offer openly and honestly and hope that you are honest in your offer and take up this option. If I cannot meet what I have offered, I will gladly refund your full $10,000 and you've had a week in Noosa on me.

Moeee

I think you should give up, punters don't want to hear the truth, look what happened to Barney when he pointed out that a poster was posting losing systems claiming them as winners.

ps the above offer is open to anyone & everyone.

[macs]

Off topic. Moderator.

[Star]

I was not going to get involved with this because this thread looks like going South.

What ever happened to the Christmas spirit, " Bah Humbug ". Sometimes, this place is like a compulsive lemon sucker, who needs his daily dose of angry pills washed down with an unsweetened lemon.

I am sure that many posts on here are tongue in cheek and by mischievous posters giving a gee up. After a bad day at the office, a lighten up here seems a fair thing but I guess too many posters here do not see the lighter side.

Too often we see what I feel to me is a promising thread with helpful information go off the rails by the " Hum Bugists " on here. ' Hum Bugists ' is their such a word, seems appropriate here to me anyway.

Too me, the best questions that get asked on here and sometimes the best answers are by the nieve and not what the self appointed gurus and guardians of our public morals and betting bank dictate to us.

It is not the telling that I see as a problem, infact it is welcomed, but the condesending and attacking sniping that sometimes draws me and others down to the 'Hum Bugists ' level.

Star

[Moderator 3]

This thread has been reopened. However we are not prepared to see any more of what Star so aptly described as "condescending and attacking sniping" being posted here.

Thank you.

Moderator.

[ianian]

There is another thing on backing short priced odds on favs for the place on the other site it went for a long time he seemed to make money, but not as much a you would like.Rather than be greedy just try to start compounding what you have over a longer time frame.

[moeee]

Moeee

I think you should give up, punters don't want to hear the truth, look what happened to Barney when he pointed out that a poster was posting losing systems claiming them as winners.

Thank you Mark for the good advice.
I don't know what happened to Barny , but I'm sure it was not to his advantage.
I shall concentrate more on my own affairs and not share them - perhaps I will also be able to afford to visit Japan should I wish to do so.

[SpeedyBen]

Thank you Mark for the good advice.
I don't know what happened to Barny , but I'm sure it was not to his advantage.
I shall concentrate more on my own affairs and not share them - perhaps I will also be able to afford to visit Japan should I wish to do so.Hey Moeee
I've been there in winter to do a job once. My advice would be to wait until summer.

[The Ocho]

I have put together a betting bank of $500 betting 2% I would like to make a weekly income of between $200 and $300 a week.

I bet 2 to 3 horses in a race e/w at the best odds.

Any ideas.
I have 3 systems that average around 50 bets a week. I bet 10 e/w either the tote or fixed.

Okay. I'll try and get involved.

The above two posts are the only ones Benny appears to have mentioned what he would like to do with another post saying he has $3000 in a bookie account.

The first thing we need to know is how did you put together that betting bank Benny? You already have your system of betting 2-3 horses in a race each way. How much do you make from this?

Is it just a matter of increasing your 2% bets when your bank increases eventually getting to your $200 to $300 per week?

[lomaca]

Lomaca,

when I get home from Japan in 8 days, for your $10,000, I will offer you a weeks bed & board including the full weeks tuition on how to make at least $350 per week ($50 per day) with only $500 in your BF account and never risking any more than $50 when a race jumps (very maximum & also extremely unlikely) of your account.

I make this offer openly and honestly and hope that you are honest in your offer and take up this option. If I cannot meet what I have offered, I will gladly refund your full $10,000 and you've had a week in Noosa on me.

Thank you for the kind offer, really appreciate it.
Been to Noosa it's the pits.

I stated many times that I do far better than OK than you very much.
I don't need to slave over a hot computer waiting for the jump, put my one or sometime up to three bets in after the scratchings, then in the afternoon I walk down to the TAB for a drink with my mates and collect my winnings.

Thanks again for the kind offer.

[Mark]

Absolutely no offense meant but I think you did not read the OP and mistakenly translated it to something else. In a way you accidentally confirm moeee's point, of buying a job cleaning dunnies.

The offer if I'm correct, and please point out if I'm not, was that having a bank of $3000 and contacting the poster he will reveal a system producing a weekly income of btw. $200 and $300.

My offer of $5000 for said system stands, as a matter of fact I up the anti and offer ten thousand.

Still a very good business! Imagine $5200 yearly return on $3K?
Any investor would go for dentures for that sort of opportunity, never mind eye tooth.

So obviously the offer wasn't a genuine one???

Noosa...the pits? classic change of subject. I say Noosa, but really at Sunshine Beach.
You're turning down the exact thing that you clearly offered $10,000 for so your crediblity has unfortunately gone out the window.
No offence intended. Seems you have to clarify everything on here these days to avoid upsetting other readers.

[moeee]

That a bloke had to travel to Queensland to take up the offer sounds a bit ludicrous.
I totally understand why Lomaca couldn't see your offer as being the sort of System implied by his offer.

[Mark]

A free holiday if it doesn't work Moeee, after all he did make the offer loud and clear. Or was it a big noting hollow offer? And if he wishes he doesn't have to come to me, I will write down clearly how to do it.

I'd do the same for $5000, teach someone how to make an income each and every week forever, but nobody will be interested, it's all too hard. Better to come up with a new hairbrained scheme every other day that is guaranteed to fail. Income for life starting with just $500.

My last post on this subject.
Apologies to the Moderator if I've crossed the line.

[Lord Greystoke]

Hi Mark, if you don't mind me asking.. apart from the $5 or $10k sling, what might be the motivation for showing someone how to fish for income?

Cheers LG

[darkydog2002]

Your right on the ball there LG.

[Vortech]

Mark - interesting your argument. What sort of hours does it take to reach such a return.

[Shaun]

Mark has spent some time over the last 10 years trying to show me the light, i won't say what he does is hard but you got to love prices to enjoy it.

Hey Mark i been up there once and have to say i loved Mooloolaba, i was staying at Caloundra and traveled up to Noosa but it was to commercial for me.

[Robot]

BENNY.IS THE EMAIL CORRECT.BEEN TRYING FOR SOMETIME TO CONTACT YOU RE WEEKLY INCOME THREAD BUT THE MAIL IS ALWAYS RETURNED. ROBOT TOM

[Benny]

BENNY.IS THE EMAIL CORRECT.BEEN TRYING FOR SOMETIME TO CONTACT YOU RE WEEKLY INCOME THREAD BUT THE MAIL IS ALWAYS RETURNED. ROBOT TOM

Yes it is correct