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michaelg
12th March 2013, 04:25 PM
I've had some spare time so I've looked at a Lay method using the neural default settings.

1) 170 neural points or less.
3) Nine runners or more.
3) Lay the neural fave.
4) CP algorithym to have 10 points or more.

I don't know why the CP can be puzzling but there was a selection that won one race from two starts but was allotted only one CP point - ???.

I've looked at the results from last Saturday. There's been 38 selections for 37 smiles, (not a bad strike rate for the top selection in most lay or bet methods)) and almost all of them started at single prices, some were even the fave. It's probably only coincidence, but...

If anyone's interested there's one selection yet to run - Muswellbrook 8/7.

michaelg
12th March 2013, 04:41 PM
I layed the selection for a liability of $33. It started fave and was beaten for a profit of $9.30.

I'll give it a go tomorrow and list the selections here.

Rinconpaul
12th March 2013, 06:01 PM
You keep looking for new challenges and push the boundaries. That's the sort of spirit that made this country. I retired voluntarily last September but am still a few years away from being eligible for the pension, so I've devoted my time to making a sustainable living from racing.
It never ceases to amaze me how much there is to research and explore. I find it fascinating and am glad I stumbled across this forum.
Good luck with it.
RP

SpeedyBen
12th March 2013, 06:21 PM
What made this country great is the Wiggles, I'm told.

Rinconpaul
12th March 2013, 06:56 PM
You're a pioneer too Speedy. What's cookin' in the kitchen? You must have something up your sleeve!
RP

SpeedyBen
12th March 2013, 07:38 PM
You're a pioneer too Speedy. What's cookin' in the kitchen? You must have something up your sleeve!
RPI'm resting on my laurels a bit, RP. You're doing your bit with a new method on the other thread, I see.
Since field sizes have increased dramatically backers are lining up to give me their money ( in running ). The more I offer the more they take even on quiet Monday and Tues meetings. May Allah be with them.

Rinconpaul
13th March 2013, 06:26 AM
Don't stop with your top rated selection meeting the criteria only. If the top doesn't qualify move down the list and select the next horse that does. I revised your rules and applied it to yesterday: 15 bets 1 accident Nett profit $1,386.83 ($1000 L)

Cheers RP

Rinconpaul
13th March 2013, 07:13 AM
I'll dry run these selections based on MG's rules except if top rated horse doesn't meet criteria move down list to find next horse that does:
Canterbury R2/1; R5/9; R6/8; R7/9;
Doomben R4/10; R6/3; R7/13; R8/9
Launceston R1/9; R2/3; R5/2; R6/5;R7/1; R8/3; R9/3
Sale R3/4; R6/3; R7;4; R8/8
Strathalbyn R6/1; R7/5; R8/1
Narrogin R1/11; R2/3; R3/1; R4/4; R5/7; R6/5; R7/3; R8/2
Min field size 9
Interesting to see how it fares?
RP

michaelg
13th March 2013, 08:16 AM
Thanks, RP.

My original intention was to see if races with low neural points targeted "open" races that produced high divvies. It started with a bang but slowly petered out where the race fave won their fair share of races.

But what I did notice was that the neural fave of 170 points and less performed terribly so I checked the results back to Saturday and was pleasantly surprised. I have no logical explanation for this because the race faves showed no consistency/bias so why should the fave of these races that had low neural points?

RP, yesterday I also looked at what you suggest but checking different variations I could find nothing advantageous. However I currently haven't given up.

Your results from yesterday's racing are very impressive with both strike rate and profit.

I'll also be closely looking at today's selections of your method - good luck.

michaelg
13th March 2013, 11:48 AM
Today's selections:

Launceston
6/1
9/6

Sale
3/3
6/3
8/8

Narrogin
1/2
2/3
4/4
6/5
7/3
8/2


I had trouble accessing the R&S website so I decided not to be idle and also test a new Lay method based on the Sky ratings.

There must be a maximum gap of two points between the top selection (100 points) and the second selection (98 or 99 points).

The 100 pointers for these races are: (I'm also looking at the price of the race winner and the exotics)

Canterbury
R1

Sale
Races 4, 6, 7

Dombeen
R4

Narrogin
Races 5, 7.

michaelg
13th March 2013, 09:36 PM
Not a bad day. From the 11 selections there was 10 smiles for a profit of $17.68.

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 04:37 AM
Not a bad day. From the 11 selections there was 10 smiles for a profit of $17.68.MG you didn't post your Sky Ratings selection results: 7 bets 1 loss 0.216 L nett profit. Not bad!!

My selections fared well 22 bets 0 loss 3.815 L nett profit. If I removed the 9 horse filter and lowered it to a 7 horse field the results were: 29 bets 1 loss 3.756 L nett profit. Average Odds 11.21.
Now that really makes me smile! This is what Lay betting should be like. No more picking up one & two cent pieces, no more 30% bonus in the long-shot backers pockets.
Thanks to MG for laying the foundations. Only Day 1 of 1 and I haven't put real money on yet!
Cheers RP

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 06:29 AM
Ballarat R1/6; R2/1; R3/5; R4/11; R5/3; R6/1; R7/8; R8/3
Bunbury R1/1; R2/6; R3/5; R5/5; R6/1; R7/6; R8/4; R9/3
Sunshine Coast R2/12; R3/11;R6/8; R7/2; R8/2
Wyong R1/3; R2/8; R4/5; R5/1; R6/12; R7/5; R8/8
RP

michaelg
14th March 2013, 08:03 AM
Hi, RP, well done.

The Sky Ratings had 2 accidents from the 7 selections - the 2 accidents were on Unitab but only 1 on Betfair. Still, it was quite disappointing and not what I hoped.

I still can't understand why the neural outsider method is performing so well. I'll give it another go today.

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 08:35 AM
I thought the Ngunnawal system was great but try this one.Taking ideas from MG's Sky Rating system yesterday and TO's DART system, this system is called "Twins".
Rules: in each race where Unitab has either a pair of 100 rated or a 100 & a 99 pair. Lay the longest priced 100 rated horse if a pair of 100's or if a 100 & a 99 pair, Lay the 99 rated horse.

On yesterday's races 19 bets 0 losses 4.655 L nett profit!! Let me re emphasize this $1000 liability, no losses for a return of $4,655 in one day!!!
Try it for yourselves, good luck, RP

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 08:52 AM
MG you didn't post your Sky Ratings selection results: 7 bets 1 loss 0.216 L nett profit. Not bad!!

My selections fared well 22 bets 0 loss 3.815 L nett profit. If I removed the 9 horse filter and lowered it to a 7 horse field the results were: 29 bets 1 loss 3.756 L nett profit. Average Odds 11.21.
Now that really makes me smile! This is what Lay betting should be like. No more picking up one & two cent pieces, no more 30% bonus in the long-shot backers pockets.
Thanks to MG for laying the foundations. Only Day 1 of 1 and I haven't put real money on yet!
Cheers RPVery interesting, RP.
As Michael said, he didn't understand the logic of this method so you might as well go down to the first "illogical" selection in the race. More action and more profit/ loss, hopefully the former.
This piggybacking of ideas is a good thing. You're no slouch in the system thinking area, RP. Michael's prowess in that area is already well known. Good onya, both of you.
BTW is Ngunnawal aboriginal for illogical?

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 09:32 AM
Ballarat R1/6; R2/1; R3/5; R4/11; R5/3; R6/1; R7/8; R8/3
Bunbury R1/1; R2/6; R3/5; R5/5; R6/1; R7/6; R8/4; R9/3
Sunshine Coast R2/12; R3/11;R6/8; R7/2; R8/2
Wyong R1/3; R2/8; R4/5; R5/1; R6/12; R7/5; R8/8
RPShould that be Wyong R8/9, RP, or am I confused?

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 09:56 AM
Should that be Wyong R8/9, RP, or am I confused?Should be No. 8 Speedy. No 9 had an NR of 171 which exceeds MG's rule: "=< 170".
I'm only following the "Dons" rules plus value adding to the merchandise.
Cheers RP

Lord Greystoke
14th March 2013, 10:18 AM
Very interesting, RP.
As Michael said, he didn't understand the logic of this method so you might as well go down to the first "illogical" selection in the race. More action and more profit/ loss, hopefully the former.
This piggybacking of ideas is a good thing. You're no slouch in the system thinking area, RP. Michael's prowess in that area is already well known. Good onya, both of you.
BTW is Ngunnawal aboriginal for illogical?

'Ngunnawal' pertains to the aboriginal lands now known as Canberra. I alluded to it in the Quaddy thread and somehow it has passed into the Pro-Punter vocabulary!

Nothing like a bit of fusion in this place... thoughts, words, ideas, systems,wonga,madness? etc etc

Cheers LG

LG

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 10:57 AM
Anything that comes from me, comes direct from the Lodge your Lordship. If you look closely at the attached painting, I've got in the "Bald Archies", that's me on the balcony. The "First Bloke" doesn't know yet!!...lol
Cheers RP

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 10:58 AM
Should be No. 8 Speedy. No 9 had an NR of 171 which exceeds MG's rule: "=< 170".
I'm only following the "Dons" rules plus value adding to the merchandise.
Cheers RPNo 9 has a NR of 163 after scratchings. I presume you did them before scr.

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 11:01 AM
'Ngunnawal' pertains to the aboriginal lands now known as Canberra. I alluded to it in the Quaddy thread and somehow it has passed into the Pro-Punter vocabulary!
LGWell, Ngunnawal is as incomprehensible to me as Canberra's internet betting rules, LG.

The Ocho
14th March 2013, 11:01 AM
I thought the Ngunnawal system was great but try this one.Taking ideas from MG's Sky Rating system yesterday and TO's DART system, this system is called "Twins".
Rules: in each race where Unitab has either a pair of 100 rated or a 100 & a 99 pair. Lay the longest priced 100 rated horse if a pair of 100's or if a 100 & a 99 pair, Lay the 99 rated horse.

On yesterday's races 19 bets 0 losses 4.655 L nett profit!! Let me re emphasize this $1000 liability, no losses for a return of $4,655 in one day!!!
Try it for yourselves, good luck, RP
Hi Rinconpaul. This looks very interesting. Can you list these selections today so I can work out how you've done it?

The only thing I can see is you have to be in front of the computer just before each race. Would some sort of pre-post market work with this like the morning line from Racing & Sports so I can load the selections on the bot in the morning before work?

michaelg
14th March 2013, 11:16 AM
Yesterday's only accident was in a Maiden race. So I'm identifying today's Maiden races with a (M).

Ballarat
3/7(M)
7/7

Bunbury
1/7(M)
2/1(M)
5/1(M)
6/3
9/11

Sun Coast
2/7(M)
3/11(M)
7/8
8/3
9/1

Wyong
2/9 (M)
3/1 (M)
6/12
5/2
8/9

I don't have a good feeling about today, it's my normal unease with the neurals.

Just a quick point - default neurals for some reason does not include the WT algorithym.

RP, my problem with the SKY method is that I can't be at my computer to check the prices, but good luck with it.

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 11:18 AM
No 9 has a NR of 163 after scratchings. I presume you did them before scr.Yeah Speedy, I do them about 4.30am before the R & S website crashes! I did the same yesterday, that might have something to do with its success yesterday?
RP

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 11:23 AM
Hi Rinconpaul. This looks very interesting. Can you list these selections today so I can work out how you've done it?

The only thing I can see is you have to be in front of the computer just before each race. Would some sort of pre-post market work with this like the morning line from Racing & Sports so I can load the selections on the bot in the morning before work?Todays "TWINS" races are:
Sunshine Coast 3, 6
Wyong 4
Balarat 5, 6, 7, 8
Bunbury 3, 8, 9,10
I haven't checked yet whether scratchings, other than horses rated 99 or 100, change anything?
Yes you probably do have to be at your computer unless there is a more sophisticated bot out there that allows you to program it this way.
RP

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 11:59 AM
Yesterday's only accident was in a Maiden race. So I'm identifying today's Maiden races with a (M).


I don't have a good feeling about today, it's my normal unease with the neurals.
MG we both should have certain common selections when the top rated neural selection is =< 170 and CP 10+ but I've just checked yours and there all over the shop! Are you sure you have the default setting with everything on 3? Example: Wyong 2/9 No. 9 has NR of 108.5 and CP 3;
Wyong 3/1 has NR of 190.
Or maybe I'm using a different setting to you?
Check before you commit, RP

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 12:36 PM
Rechecked selections in accordance with scratchings. Changes: Bunbury R2/1
Sunshine Coast R7/8

Speedy I'm still intrigued re Wyong R8/ 9 Commanding Cash still shows as NR 171, including the two scratchings 14 & 1, on my R & S page. You say on yours it's 163? I can't explain this!
RP

michaelg
14th March 2013, 12:48 PM
Thanks, RP. I had incorrectly deleted the BP algorithym which distorted the genuine selections.

My corrected selections are:

Ballarat
7/7

Bunbury
2/1 (M)

Sun Coast
2/7(M)
7/8

Wyong
6/12
8/9

Wyong 8/9 has 171 points because the WET algorithym has been included.

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 12:49 PM
Rechecked selections in accordance with scratchings. Changes: Bunbury R2/1
Sunshine Coast R7/8

Speedy I'm still intrigued re Wyong R8/ 9 Commanding Cash still shows as NR 171, including the two scratchings 14 & 1, on my R & S page. You say on yours it's 163? I can't explain this!
RPI can't either. It is Commanding Cash, rated $4.0 and an NR of 163.0.
Bizarre.

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 12:51 PM
Thanks Michael. I had overlooked the WET algo. Sorry for the confusion, RP.

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 03:55 PM
At least the twins are doing OK!
RP

michaelg
14th March 2013, 04:14 PM
I've only layed the non Maidens.

There's been 4 selections with one more to go. The 3 selections became 3 smiles which have produced a healthy profit of $36.99.

The remaining selection is Wyong 8/9.

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 04:28 PM
How many losers have you had in the Aboriginal trial today, RP?

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 05:12 PM
How many losers have you had in the Aboriginal trial today, RP?One less than the Ben-E-Ficiary totalled for the 9th, 10th & 11th March, four! My bot says its only -0.56 L down at the moment but the Twins are 0.86L up. If it wasn't for two silly mistakes on my part, the Cadillac would be up 0.7L.
Considering the Ngunnawal returned 3.8L yesterday I'm not ringing up the Salvos just yet.
Happy Speedy
RP

Lord Greystoke
14th March 2013, 06:20 PM
Good work chaps. Never thought I would clap my eyes on a nice set of puppies err twins again.

Giddy up.. up !

LG

SpeedyBen
14th March 2013, 07:01 PM
One less than the Ben-E-Ficiary totalled for the 9th, 10th & 11th March, four! My bot says its only -0.56 L down at the moment but the Twins are 0.86L up. If it wasn't for two silly mistakes on my part, the Cadillac would be up 0.7L.
Considering the Ngunnawal returned 3.8L yesterday I'm not ringing up the Salvos just yet.
Happy Speedy
RPNot sure what beneficiary has to do with it. Must have missed something.
The reason I asked was that I was following the aboriginal method and I had laid 3 losers when you posted but was actually still a bit in front. I wondered why your heading indicated that you were giving up. I had an upper limit of 15.0 so must have missed one of the four.
I finished almost 1xL in front so it was a good bad day.

michaelg
14th March 2013, 07:20 PM
The method today had 4 selections for 4 smiles for a profit of $39.46.

Out of interest I applied the same rules to non-Maidens.

On Tuesday there were 10 selections for 10 smiles for a profit of $32.
On Wednesday there were 16 selections for 14 smiles for a profit of $4.
Today there have been 13 selections for 11 smiles (2 more races to go) for a current profit of $50.

The two races and the selections yet to be run are Bunbury 9/6 and 10/9.

Rinconpaul
14th March 2013, 07:45 PM
TWINS excellent result: 11 bets 0 losses 1.323L nett profit.
Ngunnawal: 21 bets 4 losses -0.295 L nett loss. Considering the number of losses the system displayed great recovery.
All in all a worthwhile excercise with some modifications required going forward.
RP

michaelg
15th March 2013, 10:46 AM
Today's selections:

Moonee valley
8/9

Ipswich
7/5

Swan Hill
8/1

Port Mac
8/1

Goulburn
4/4

Geraldton
5/2
7/1
8/1

Rinconpaul
15th March 2013, 11:01 AM
Today's selections:

Moonee valley
8/9*

Ipswich
7/5

Swan Hill
8/1*

Port Mac
8/1

Goulburn
4/4

Geraldton
5/2*
7/1*
8/1They're your selections MG but the ones marked in red above don't strictly follow your rules that I'm aware of. Some the CP is < 10, some are second on list? Your call
Cheers RP

michaelg
15th March 2013, 11:20 AM
Thanks for checking, RP.

I didn't mention it but I've decided to ignore the number of CP points for convenience/ease. I hope this is not a mistake.

The top selection for Geraldton R7 (no.11) is scratched, so the next selection no.1 (123 points) becomes the selection.

As you state, Geraldton 5/2 is not a selection. I have also checked the top selection with more than 170 neural points because it has showed a profit for the past three days. I wrote Geraldton 5/2 for the wrong method. Now that I've reopened this thread I'll list the selections for this over 170 points method in case anyone's interested:

Moonee Valley
4/3
7/1

Ipswich
5/10
6/1
8/3

Swan Hill
7/5

Port Mac
6/2
7/1

Goulburn
6/3
7/2

Geraldton
5/2

SpeedyBen
15th March 2013, 03:37 PM
Is the profit for the 170+ runners by backing or layng, Michael?

michaelg
15th March 2013, 04:01 PM
I'm looking at laying, even though doing that is risky. So far there have been 2 accidents from 7 selections, for a current loss of $4.78.

michaelg
15th March 2013, 09:32 PM
The 170 points method had a losing day for the first time. The loss was $21.75, and the result after three days is a profit of $54.71.

The 171-plus points method had a winning day of $9.64.

michaelg
16th March 2013, 12:03 PM
Today's selections for the 170 points are:

Warwick Farm
8/3

Bendigo
3/4

Eagle farm
6/4

Oakbank
9/5

Darwin
6/2

Kembla
4/7
6/2

Broken Hill
3/3

Scone
4/7
5/4

Geelong
4/9
7/1

Ascot
2/3
3/3
5/6
6/12
8/3

Gold Coast
4/2
6/6
7/4

michaelg
16th March 2013, 07:48 PM
A good day - from the 19 selections there were 18 smiles for a profit of $92.50.

Since detailing the rules here last Wednesday and listing the daily selections there have been 34 smiles from 37 selections for a profit of $147.21 - I still can't explain why it is happening, maybe it's just going through a purple patch and reality will soon catch up to it.

michaelg
17th March 2013, 10:42 AM
Today's selections:

Nowra
6/4
7/6

Yarra Valley
9/5

Ballina
3/6
7/3

Mt Barker
8/12

michaelg
17th March 2013, 07:33 PM
Not a bad day - there were 6 smiles from the six selections for a profit of $34.62.

michaelg
17th March 2013, 07:43 PM
I don't think I've mentioned it but Maiden races are not included in the method - it is a filter.

michaelg
18th March 2013, 10:49 AM
Today's selections are:

Armidale
4/1
5/2

Bathurst
3/1
4/3
6/3
7/1

W'bool
5/1
7/5


According to the law of averages a bad day is overdue.

SpeedyBen
18th March 2013, 02:44 PM
Today's selections are:

According to the law of averages a bad day is overdue.I wouldn't bet on that Michael.
The neural numbers have been remarkably accurate for a while now.
Good luck with it.

Rinconpaul
18th March 2013, 03:25 PM
I wouldn't bet on that Michael.
The neural numbers have been remarkably accurate for a while now.
Good luck with it.It's surely a worry though for the backers, when you think about it!
Your using criteria that's supposed to select the horse, with the best chance of winning based on all algorithms, to LAY?
Maybe the trifecta and 1st 4 backers should be selecting the bottom of the pile neurals for value?
Cheers RP

michaelg
18th March 2013, 04:56 PM
Thanks, gents.

From today's 8 selections there were 7 smiles for a profit of $22.66. After 6 days it's today cracked the $200 profit mark from $33 liability bets.

SpeedyBen
18th March 2013, 08:49 PM
It's surely a worry though for the backers, when you think about it!
Your using criteria that's supposed to select the horse, with the best chance of winning based on all algorithms, to LAY?
Maybe the trifecta and 1st 4 backers should be selecting the bottom of the pile neurals for value?
Cheers RPRP
The method that you suggested of going further down the list has made $300 profit in 6 days laying to a $33 liability. ( Laying range .. 2.00 to 14.9 )

SpeedyBen
19th March 2013, 12:30 AM
It's surely a worry though for the backers, when you think about it!
Your using criteria that's supposed to select the horse, with the best chance of winning based on all algorithms, to LAY?
Maybe the trifecta and 1st 4 backers should be selecting the bottom of the pile neurals for value?
Cheers RPThe other interesting thing is that the lays over 6 days have averaged 6.66 on BF so the market has got it wrong also. THeir winning strike rate has been a dismal 13%.
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

Rinconpaul
19th March 2013, 04:25 AM
RP
The method that you suggested of going further down the list has made $300 profit in 6 days laying to a $33 liability. ( Laying range .. 2.00 to 14.9 )To borrow the words of a union boss, who at the ICAC enquiry into coal licences, is said to have made almost a 9000 per cent profit, after an original outlay of $165,698 resulted in an almost $15 million windfall by late 2011:

"When you read this you will understand why I can't wipe the smile off my face, merry ************ Christmas."

Reading this forum must have been what it was like in Ballarat & Bendigo back in the 1870's, just walk along till you find another gold nugget.
Have a great day, RP

Rinconpaul
19th March 2013, 06:36 AM
Thanks, gents.

From today's 8 selections there were 7 smiles for a profit of $22.66. After 6 days it's today cracked the $200 profit mark from $33 liability bets.
MG, I Archie scored yesterdays results and the probability is 0.89 of 1 loss per 8 selections. So, with the sought of odds you are getting for your selections, around 5:1, you will be able to show a profit long term.
Well done, RP

michaelg
19th March 2013, 06:51 AM
Thanks, RP.

However I still have strong reservations, especially when the selections that have more than 170 points in races of 9-plus runners (I haven't checked) but I expect them to be performing well.

SpeedyBen
19th March 2013, 08:33 AM
To borrow the words of a union boss, who at the ICAC enquiry into coal licences, is said to have made almost a 9000 per cent profit, after an original outlay of $165,698 resulted in an almost $15 million windfall by late 2011:

"When you read this you will understand why I can't wipe the smile off my face, merry ************ Christmas."

Reading this forum must have been what it was like in Ballarat & Bendigo back in the 1870's, just walk along till you find another gold nugget.
Have a great day, RPLike it. Don't worry, RP, I believe the man who said that you could write the words of a winning system in front of the Randwick gates and no one would be following it after its first bad run. I won't mention it, whatever "it" is, ever again.

michaelg
19th March 2013, 11:06 AM
One selection today:

Benalla
7/8

Out of interest, yesterday I layed the field in the 8 races - it provided a profit in six of them, and overall a good profit. I'll be doing this from today and keeping records in case it shows to be profitable.

Today's race (Benalla R6), laying the field. I've kept the liabilities simple because I don't know what the prices will be.

The liabilities I'm using:

$30 - nos 1, 2, 4, 8
$33 - the other horses.

michaelg
19th March 2013, 03:45 PM
The selection was beaten for a profit of $4.20.

michaelg
20th March 2013, 11:20 AM
Today's selections:

Eagle Farm
6/11
8/6

Sandown
4/7
5/11

Balaklava
8/2

Pinjarra
6/10
7/3
9/9

Newcastle
4/3
7/6

Rinconpaul
20th March 2013, 03:44 PM
It's surely a worry though for the backers, when you think about it!
Your using criteria that's supposed to select the horse, with the best chance of winning based on all algorithms, to LAY?
Maybe the trifecta and 1st 4 backers should be selecting the bottom of the pile neurals for value?
Cheers RPFurther to the above comment, I note that nearly 40% of winners thus far today can be found outside the top 3 default neurals. Must be considered by anyone betting exotics
RP

michaelg
20th March 2013, 07:46 PM
Reality has finally caught up with the method. There were 5 accidents from the 10 selections.

For the last few days I've been laying neural outsiders depending on a simple system, not complicated and time-consuming as was/is the Don Scott's lay outsiders method.

There have been no accidents, not even one placegetter, so I'm hopeful about it, and I think there is some logic to the method providing the neural algorithys are reasonably accurate.

Tomorrow I'll start a new thread with the selections.

There's one more selection to go - it's Launceston 7/5.

SpeedyBen
20th March 2013, 09:46 PM
I think they put the neurals in upside down today Michael.
R&S seem to have gone off the air completely. I'm getting only 404 errors when trying to access them. I haven't seen that error since the early days of the internet.

Rinconpaul
21st March 2013, 11:05 AM
I think they put the neurals in upside down today Michael..You might be on to something there Speedy. Just glanced at the neurals for today Warwick Farm R1. No. 6 Chandos is on top, No. 4 Furious Jet on bottom. Go to Skyform and its the complete reverse in the Best Overall.
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Rinconpaul
21st March 2013, 12:21 PM
Anything that comes from me, comes direct from the Lodge your Lordship.
Cheers RPLooks like I'm packing my bags!
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SpeedyBen
21st March 2013, 02:20 PM
[QUOTE=Rinconpaul]Looks like I'm packing my bags!
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I hear that they are going to draft Michael G in as leader.