Corp Bookie challenged...at last

[stugots]

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[UselessBettor]

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[Lord Greystoke]

Interesting story this, stugots. Will you keep following it?

Cheers LG

[SpeedyBen]

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In addition, no newspaper will publish allegations against bookmakers who have been publicly identified without evidence being provided. The same laws apply to this Forum.

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[Mark]

You don't even have to win, I've had losing accounts closed.

Be interesting how long this thread stays on here. The last one legitimately attacking the world's "alleged" biggest bookie was closed down.

[stugots]

UB, their odds may get worse but does that matter if they wont let you on anyway?

LG, will try to.

Mark I think as long as we keep the posts civil in regards to out opinions of these 'bookies', the thread will be fine.

[Chrome Prince]

The punter is wasting more money. Unfortunately it's in all online bookies terms and conditions, so legally he hasn't got a chance. Morally many things are wrong, but as long as they have themselves covered legally, that's that.

The punter would be better to lobby to get the legislation changed.

[stugots]

At least it helps create a bit of noise about an issue that appears no one really wants to know about.

Never know he might get a sympathetic hearing & be able to drag it out for a while.

[stugots]

Dr Turf just went off on SEN radio about this exact issue highlighting the fact that on-course bookies are compelled to take bets up to certain liabilities but these corp's can reduce/refuse bets or close accounts on a whim.

About time a bit of noise was made in the mainstream media:)

[Chrome Prince]

I totally agree Stugots, media attention and lobbying the local member, writng to the minister etc, will have far more effect than trying to sue the bookie which he'll lose hands down. Because he's facing a losing battle, it will all be swept under the carpet, a one liner about him losing the case and we'll hear no more.

My contention is that corporates are barring winning punters only and therefore it is only problem gamblers which are sought as long term clientele. An enquiry could prove this when reviewing each client's turnover. It would be clear that recreational punters do not make up the bulk of losing clients. In fact recreational punters basically use the tote (as a percentage).

Finally, the regulators are responsible for this, not the bookies.
The bookies are just doing what they are allowed to do.

[jose]

Write a letter of complaint to Nick Z.

[stugots]

As it happens jose I seem to recall something about the Z man being briefed on the issue sometime ago, but guess the pokies are a much bigger social issue.

Peter Fiztsimons also took the issue up for a while but don't think it came to anything.

A problem for most journo's & media types is the amount of advertising revenue the corp's put through the organisations they work for would make it nigh on impossible to get anything published or aired.

& I see today that the Lib's reckon they will ban in game advertising of bookies odd's - good, it should never have been allowed.

[Moderator 3]

Be interesting how long this thread stays on here. The last one legitimately attacking the world's "alleged" biggest bookie was closed down.Of course winning punters being banned/restricted by online bookies is relevant for punters. As long as folks don't make defamatory posts and post hearsay there should be no issues.

As an example, imagine a bookie called Bookie A.

Now someone posts: "Bookie A ripped me off. They banned me when I started winning. They're no better than criminals."

If we start getting TOUs about posts like that then some folks may be given suspensions and the thread closed.

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[Puntz]

Well,
my only question is now "trainer ratings".
Does this affect the "Sum Total" of a "ratings system" if one uses a trainer's current win/loss rate?

This is by no means to discredit anyone's personal credibility, it's to question the person's ability as a trainer, doing their job.