Is one of the Pro's interested?

[evajb001]

Hi Guys,

As some may recall I'm involved in the financial planning industry and so regularly read a few stock forums etc that are similar to this. One of the threads i've taken interest in elsewhere was with regards to a very successful trader who doesn't trade much anymore offering assistance to someone that reached out to him in a mentor type role. They communicate regularly by email, sometimes the mentor shows the apprentice trades he likes that have set up, other times the apprentice shows the mentor trades he likes and they discuss the setups, duration, stops etc etc.

Aaaaaanyhow it got me thinking, this may be a longshot but are there any of our resident pros here that regularly make a dollar on the horses willing to be a kind of 'mentor' to me? I'm not asking for their own holy grail, but more of someone to bounce ideas with and give me some direction. Who knows I may even come up with some idea they hadn't think of and we bouth come out winners.

I know its a longshot but I figure its worth asking as I've got nothing to lose by doing so. If anyone is interested and wants to keep it private i'd appreciate an email to jbevans at internode.on.net and if nobody is interested then thats fine too just figured i'd ask.

Also on a side note CP could you please email me if you read this, one of the added bonus's of being in your 20's and enjoying a drink means my 'day after drinking' change container is full to the brim and i'm thinking of using the money to purchase your database/program.

Thanks

[evajb001]

Since theres been no replies or emails i'll post some selections for a method i'm working on:

QR2 - 2 2xUnits
QR7 - 4 1xUnits
NR4 - 7 2xUnits
NR6 - 6 2xunits
VR5 - 3 2xUnits
VR8 - 7 1xUnits

[darkydog2002]

Thanks for that.

I,d hazard a guess that most on here either dont bet at all or have $1 E/W.

If there are any your in elite company.

Cheers.

[Puntz]

First of all, it takes courage to ask to be mentored in this racing game.
I had similar advice from a person who solely lived off the punt.
I asked the same question...the answer was not handed out on a platter.

The first suggestion was to go to the race meetings for 2 years and do not put on a single bet. Observe and take certain notes.

Due to my personal circumstances at the time this was not always convenient, and he stopped suggesting the next thing until I completed my 2 year stint.
Have since lost contact.

If I was to mentor, all I can say is do a 2 year stint, observe and take certain notes.

"Reverse Engineering" as in why are the prices that price and why do they change when they change. And why the pre-post is one price and the openers are another price and what makes those prices change.
What is the "best" pre-post prices to follow will become your personal choice. But I stick to one source and compare with others occasionally.

From there you may or may not "get it", that is entirely up to you.

If you ever hit a "mental brick wall" and wish you had a hammer to smash all your systems, and you don't at the last minute...good.
I hope you smash the delusion instead and have faith in your punting method/s.

And that is as far as I can take anyone, because by then, ( it's a journey) ya be on ya own feet as far as making race selections within a percentage of profit, and will know if it's right for you.

[Tayjack]

Evajb001,

Go to dave101 thread , "calling all system addicts". He and i are doing the same thing as what you have presented here.

Only too happy to swap with you what, how and why he or i know things and vice versa: jasonmiller4 at big pond dot com

Not sure if i could be a "mentor" type figure, but happy to share some things ive learnt over 20 years(probably doesn't mean much chasing the grail), anyhow, i believe that you still dont stop learning after 50 years at it, no matter what game your in.

Hope to hear from you. TJ

[Chrome Prince]

evajb001,
Email sent.
Reply with any questions you might have.

[garyf]

Hi Eva.


If nothing comes to fruition down the path ask again.

What you have posted is what i am doing,
With 3 others from this forum right now.

See how you go first with the other suggestions,
Mentioned earlier on the post.

Cheers.
Garyf.

[Tayjack]

Hi Guys,



Also on a side note CP could you please email me if you read this, one of the added bonus's of being in your 20's and enjoying a drink means my 'day after drinking' change container is full to the brim and i'm thinking of using the money to purchase your database/program.



Chrome, as stated above by evajb001, i would be super interested in your database if it's not too much trouble........jasonmiller4 at big pond dot com

Cheers.

[Chrome Prince]

Email sent TJ.

[Tayjack]

Email sent TJ.

Appreciated chrome

[evajb001]

Hi Guys, sorry for the late reply I've struggled to make it out of bed the last couple of days thanks to the flu. I can't wait until flu season is over its the 3rd time in the last couple of months that i've spent only a few hours out of bed. My bosses will be ready to strangle me soon.

A few comments for each of your replies which I very much appreciate:

Puntz:

Unfortunately I live in country SA so getting to meetings regularly in the flesh is extremely hard for me to achieve besides the local Cup which lets just say by the end of the day i'm lucky to spot the difference between a horse and a camel. However I do love attending the races when I get a chance, problem is its usually to celebrate something and so I generally am there to drink and not actually bet seriously.

I've already been hanging around these forums for over a year now and feel i've learnt a lot. Definitely got a long way to go and I think having my hands on a databse like CP's might push me over the edge as I actually enjoy problem solving and crunching numbers and looking outside the square. I think the reason I'm looking for a mentor type person is more to bounce ideas off them and then discuss why that is/isn't a good idea to try or what it could/could not work in practice.

I'm definitely not looking to be given all the answers for free with no input of my own, that defeats the purpose of this process. On a side note i'll be looking for methods/systems that can be implemented be either placing the bets first thing in the morning or using a bot, as I do still work full time. I'm also not looking to make thousands of dollars, but maybe a few hundred just to prove to myself that it can be done and then maybe get more serious about it from there.

Tayjack:

I'll try and email you tonight, I'm not sure i'll have much to add given i'm only 26 and haven't been around this scene as long as others but there may be some fresh ideas I can provide as well? I definitely think some of the money management processes from share trading/investing have a place in managing a betting bankroll.

Garyf:

Always find your posts interesting and sounds like you have an approach similar to what i'd like to find myself doing (i.e. sticking to quality races with quality fields to ensure that the form/ratings were using is reliable and not based on a selective few runs). I'll let you know how I go either in this thread or another down the track and maybe we can share some emails at that stage.

CP:

I received your email and will try and get back to you tonight. I have a few small queries but besides that its just a matter of convincing myself that the money it costs is well worth it. I'm sure many here will agree that it is, but given i'm saving for a house I just have prioritise if i'm happy to spend that money. With any luck i'd be able to win it back in no time haha.

Thanks guys for the replies, definitely appreciate it.

[SpeedyBen]

I actually enjoy problem solving and crunching numbers and looking outside the square...... JB

Me too, JB. If you can't find anyone drop me a line. I think you have my email address. Thanks to my dad I didn't have a costly apprenticeship so maybe you can be the son I never wanted. :-).
I have dabbled in systems and ratings in the past and now thanks to BF I can make a living.

[Tayjack]

I'm sure many here will agree that it is, but given i'm saving for a house I just have prioritise if i'm happy to spend that money. With any luck i'd be able to win it back in no time haha.

Hi Evajb,

At the price the database is available for and how it is setup, i would of thought 405 is a fart in the wind, given the time you could save yourself.

Just my 2 cents - but good on ya for heading towards your first property?

GL - TJ

[evajb001]

Hi Guys,

Apologies for not emailing last night, my mate just got back from Adelaide where he had a knee reconstruction on two of his ligaments after dislocating his knee (not just the knee cap, the entire joint got dislocated). I might include a picture for those of you I send a reply email too as it's something your unlikely to see again.

Speedy, thanks for the reply, you were one of the ones I was hoping might be interested as you seem like a laid back kind of guy that likes to try new methods similar to me. I'll hunt through my inbox and find your email to get back to you shortly.

TJ - I agree now, really $400 is just missing out on a couple of weekends drinking or eating out a few times so really is a flash in the pan compared to what it may bring in if i'm dilligent enough.

Yeh saving for my first property, been investing in shares since I started my job 4 and half years ago to use as a deposit. Got a portfolio worth $86k now but thats inclusive of a $33k margin loan so still got some ways to go. Made some bad calls on small companies when I first started and was eager to make a quick buck, luckily since then i've invested in some high quality companies that have served me well.

Still, its tough trying to find the right property, although i'm getting close.

[SpeedyBen]

JB
I don't know whether an inquiring mind is a blessing or a curse. I sit and watch quite a few races per day while I'm laying in running and my brain keeps saying "Did you notice that? You should check it out."
I'm married to a redhead so being laid back certainly has enabled me to stay married. She's fiery, but never dull.
I'll send you an email to save you searching.