How does one pay for Gruss

[Keen2xL]

Hi

Dumb question i'm sure : )

But where do i pay for subscibing to Gruss Software

All i can seem to find is a random PayPal Banner on their site but explains nothing.

Appreciate help

Cheers Guys

Oh it's OK payment is down the bottom of the page, : ) Skinny monitor : )

[Shaun]

Glad you pay for it, i just use paypal as it is the easiest.

There are a few on here that use it, there forum is great for questions and answers but i am willing to help out if needed, used the software for many years mostly with excel but know the program.

[Keen2xL]

Gruss was the lowest price per month compared to the other 1 or 2 on line has ability to do what i want but yer now gotta try and figure how to set thing up

I'm reasonably good with Excel Formulas cut and paste Vba together that sort of thing.

I would like to ask a question if i may

I have Excel Sheet

Tabs

Gruss/Results/MyBets

Can link up Betting Assistant OK

All Working there

Q1/ What formula would you suggest to put into the Trigger column to mark as "BACK" 10 seconds before the "OFF"

Q2/ What is minumum bet Betting Assistant will place when testing

Q3/I have funds in Bet Fair Acc have tried placing a bet using "Back" $1 Stake, it said "Pending" Then 2 seconds latter it said "EXPOSURE_OR_AVAILABLE_BALANCE_EXCEEDED"
obviously doing something wrong.

Cheers for now

[Shaun]

I have uploaded a sheet with a formula in T1 that uses the time you place in S1 to display a 1 in the cell when the time drops below 10 seconds, when the time goes negative the second part of the formula keeps the 1 there until the event goes in play.t, this is just a simple way.

You could use this 1 to trigger your be

As for min bet. any amount is ok but i would not test for extended periods, like weeks at a time, betfair might complain, make sure you have at least $5 in the account because of the way Gruss places the bet, it is a three step process for under the minimum bet.

When you deposit money it goes to your main wallet, you need to transfer to Australian wallet, you can do this under accounts in gruss just select funds in.

[beton]

Shaun
file is blank.
I am interested in getting Gruss myself.

[Shaun]

Sorry about that, forgot to save it before upload,lol

[Keen2xL]

Hi Shaun
Hi beton

Thanks for spread sheet Shaun will look at that : )

Yer well i did put min $5 in Aussie wallet and it still comes up "Exceed blah blah" might take a screen shot and post latter if prob continues ?

So i don't know, i get so use to things on the net never working first time as they are supposed too, has taught me patients anyway : )

It is a bit scarey actually making a bet, concerned i'm gonna do something wrong eyes going everywhere trying to see what the programs doing at a 1oo miles an hour : )

I don't even understand the lay out of BA or much at all at the mo

1/Backing
2/Laying
3/Greening up the book, oh my goodness

Started going through gruss Videos, i've seen alot of Youtube examples, i'm still not much the wiser, thick as truck drivers sandwhich i think.

I do prefer to have some one there to just say how do i do this, what's that for, sweet i'm away.

Will get back to ya's soon : )

Lots of study on BA and concepts

Oh maybe, was thinking save me going through everything you have Shaun : ) trial error etc,

Can you recommend a way to bet using BA to give me best chance from the 3 above, if not to cheeky to ask

Cheers matey

Mike : )

[The Ocho]

Keen2xL, You need more than $5 in the Aus wallet if you want to bet less than the minimum $5 bet. For instance if you want to place a $1 back bet you will need $6 in there every time the bot places a bet. This is because it will place the $6 bet at $1000 and then remove $5 of that bet leaving your $1 and then adjust the bet to your desired odds.

If you are placing a lay bet then you also may need more than $5 (possibly a fair bit more depending on odds). Also if one bet is not settled the next bet won't get placed unless you have that $6 in the wallet (as per the above example).

Why not place say $20 or $50 in there to experiment with.

Please be careful though as betting below the minimum amount is against their T&C's.

[Keen2xL]

Hi Ocho

Thanks for advice

I see have transfered a bit more to cover in Aussie Wallet havn't placed any bets as yet can't seem to find where it says "no bets" below $5.00 allowed ? but anyway will not place any below $5.00 : ) wana be a good boy : )

Started Listening to BF T and C via Chrome Speakit which is very good by the way, ears went dumb 1/2 way through, if you know what i mean.

I have read quite a few things about people getting accounts closed for seemingly no apparent reason, as i read them and explained by the person at the time, alot of anger involved.

"7.Suspension or termination

Either we or you may suspend or terminate your account at any time, either with or without cause"

Pretty much covers them, not trying to take it all out of context and don't wish to upset BF or anyone but do these things happen for no apparent reason, just because you won money off them and they don't want to pay up ?

Cheers

Mike

[UselessBettor]

Please be careful though as betting below the minimum amount is against their T&C's.
I always find this very interesting with betfair.

Basically the minimum back bet allowed by T+Cs is $5.
The minimum lay bet though is also $5. But in order to lay a $100 selection you are going to really need $500 in the account.

They don't seem to understand that really it should be risked amount rather than the amount showing on betfair. A $5.00 lay on a $100 horse should allow you to do 5c with minimum liability of $5.00. Your risking the exact same amount as backing for $5.00

But that is not betfairs point of view. So if you want to lay long shots you need a very large bank to be within the T+C's.

[evajb001]

Thats unless you use betfair SP UB where you can do a min liability of $30

[UselessBettor]

Thats unless you use betfair SP UB where you can do a min liability of $30
Very true ... but still more then the minimum 5 for backing.

[evajb001]

Yeh true, I can understand where BF are coming from though. I mean they are a business so they need to make money and processing bets where the profit is $0.05 and trying to claim commission on that is next to impossible so essentially they are providing the service for free. I mean really a $5 min back stake and $30 min liability for SP bets isn't that hard to swallow, if you need to use amounts lower then that i'm not sure you should be betting anyway. Just my opinion though.

[UselessBettor]

I mean really a $5 min back stake and $30 min liability for SP bets isn't that hard to swallow, if you need to use amounts lower then that i'm not sure you should be betting anyway. Just my opinion though.
lol I agree.

[Shaun]

Hi Shaun
Hi beton

Thanks for spread sheet Shaun will look at that : )

Yer well i did put min $5 in Aussie wallet and it still comes up "Exceed blah blah" might take a screen shot and post latter if prob continues ?

So i don't know, i get so use to things on the net never working first time as they are supposed too, has taught me patients anyway : )

It is a bit scarey actually making a bet, concerned i'm gonna do something wrong eyes going everywhere trying to see what the programs doing at a 1oo miles an hour : )

I don't even understand the lay out of BA or much at all at the mo

1/Backing
2/Laying
3/Greening up the book, oh my goodness

Started going through gruss Videos, i've seen alot of Youtube examples, i'm still not much the wiser, thick as truck drivers sandwhich i think.

I do prefer to have some one there to just say how do i do this, what's that for, sweet i'm away.

Will get back to ya's soon : )

Lots of study on BA and concepts

Oh maybe, was thinking save me going through everything you have Shaun : ) trial error etc,

Can you recommend a way to bet using BA to give me best chance from the 3 above, if not to cheeky to ask

Cheers matey

Mike : )her tool


Um, well i hate to say it but Gruss is not the Holy Grail it is a tool, like any tool you need experience to use it like knowing what you want and learning that skill or trying new skills.

If you are not sure then backing runners is the safest option to start, but you need to develop your own ideas on runners to back or follow some one elses, Gruss could then be used to load up the bets and place them for you, for example if you had 10 horses you could have a sheet setup that would back these runners 10 seconds from jump time provided there price was $3 or more, or maybe you want to back your selection provided it is at least $1 shorter than the second selection, these are just examples not saying they work.

So what you need to do is decide what is best suited to you in terms of betting, the idea of Gruss is if you are normally a person that uses betfair gruss will be better because it is faster, you could just use the interface to place bets and nothing more, for me i use excel because i enjoy the coding side of it and making things work how i want.

Sorry i could be more help in that area.

[Keen2xL]

Shaun

Yer all good

Thanks for that

I have some ideas i been working on Flat bets and recovery Staking plan but as good as a recovery Staking plan looks on paper i live in fear of the day it lets me down and the day it does will probably be the first day i actually use it : )

Huh talk about pessimist : )

Would just be nice for a change to get a good start : )

Found the WB on Gruss "Place_Bets.xls" might do the trick will spend a while mucking around with that.

Cheers Guys