How I win

[Hay Chee]

I dont know why you all bet on horses its the jokeys and trainers who decide who wins. why do some horses arive to late and others never get clear or when a trainer has two runers in a race the ruffie wins. I have lernt visulisation you can to and then you can beat the pokies by vusulising the winning lines its a battle between u and machin and u can beat it you can lern to alter what it does dont larf it can be done. I practicd for many hrs on 1 cent machins

[Mr. Logic]

With all due respect Hay Chee your post is illogical.

QUOTE: "when a trainer has two runers in a race the ruffie wins"

You have contradicted yourself. You have clearly given a method, based on your reasoning, that wins at the races. But you are telling us not to bet on the horses. Instead to learn your "visulisation" to of all things beat the pokies.

As for your "visulisation" have you thought about trying it on spelling and punctuation or doesn't it work on that?

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As a Club worker in the Western suburbs of Sydney some 30 years ago,I had to do a course on the workings of poker machines,as part of my job entailed fixing jammed machines,paying jackpots,etc.on certain shifts.Depending on your age you may not have seen one of those old"one armed bandits."When you opened the machine and slid the "guts " forward,there was a screw underneath which could be either advanced or retarded to set the percentage of pays that machine would cough up.I can tell you that very few were advanced!Just enough so that other players could see that someone was winning,which would encourage them to keep playing,thinking it was there turn next!There was an infamous "Syndicate"of about 5 guys who learnt how to "walk"the reels by counting the clicks as they manipulated the handle they were pulling.I was fortunate to meet one of these guys at a Club I was working in,as he used to drink there,but was banned from playing the pokies.One night after the Club was closed and we were having staff drinks(he was still there having with the boss)the boss armed with a container of 20 cent coins,and as we watched in amazement he pulled up the major jackpot in 62 seconds!It was 7777,by manipulating the handle,he got a 7 on the first wheel,then "froze"that wheel until he got the second one,and so on until he had all four!As with all forms of gambling,greed took over,and once these guys started winning too often wherever they went,they gradually got barred everywhere they went.They even went to L.A.and won there too,but as with card counters at Blackjack,same story,barred again.That is the only time I have ever seen ANYONE beat the pokies.I saw guys lose their business,home and family through those stupid moronic things.With the advent of computerisation,I would suggest to you that it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to beat the machine these days.I really think you should consider posting under the nom de plume of Uri Geller,although he was exposed as a fraud too.But having said all that,and knowing full well that you will take no notice whatsoever because these machines have got you by the short and curlies,please don't stop posting,I get a laugh out of your posts.

[ShoeIn]

Altering poker machines through mind control...why didn't I think of that? Thanks for the tip Hay Chee.

[Touchy]

Hey Angel416,I lived at Wollongong at that time & remember it well,with some of us getting kicked out of a few of the clubs trying to get the "right"action on those bloody pokie levers,all I ever got from it was tennis elbow,thanks for the memories,It still brings a smile to the dial even now when I think back.Cheers Touchy.><> ><> ><>.

[topsy99]

i remember those machines. couldnt afford to play them though.
used to work in the postoffice in the eastern suburbs (sydney) saw a lot of guys lose their jobs over pokies.
one of their insidious methods of introduction of people to the machines was to target women as an "untapped gambling resource". same with many marketing techniques you know the chic smoker, the lollie alcohol drinks etc.
used to lunch at leagues clubs in those days for the cheap meals. couldnt get near a pokie for the ladies using them during the day time.
i know it is probably a bit rich a horse player condemning marketing techniques but the public needs protecting somewhere along the line. perhaps its too late.

[Paddy]

Nice one Hay Chee - let the cat out o'bag why dont ya :roll:

Microsoft Corp. announced Thursday that a beta release of Windows TP, the telepathic operating system, was released to 1,500 test sites worldwide.

Developed using the soon-to-be released Microsoft C for Neurons, Windows TP bypasses awkward user interfaces by interacting directly with the user's brain.

Using the Microsoft MindMouse, users can visualize images in their mind, and the application associated with that image (or "thought icon") is executed.

Users can visualize pictures to create Windows Bitmap images, or think text directly into Windows applications.

Windows TP is fully compatible with all previous versions of Windows.

Data stored under Windows TP can be copied into the user's short- term memory (the Windows TP Clipboard), or transferred directly into the user's long-term memory using Windows' new 32-bit Direct Neuron Access technology.

Users can then plug into other Windows TP systems to transfer the data.

Microsoft also announced the first application developed exclusively for Windows TP. CyberMail is a mental mail system designed to transfer messages by thought.

Users visualize the person or company logo they want to send a message to, followed by the message to send.

Microsoft has had a beta version of the application in use for several months.

[Sandgroper]

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All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[topsy99]

sandgroper echoes my sentiments.

[kenchar]

Hey Hay Chee,
Can we get together to earn some real money.
I will take you to the races,and Ill tell you which horse I am putting my money on and you can concentrate on it and will it to win.Within one month we will both be millionaires.

Kenchar

[Bhagwan]

WHAT THE !!!!!

[kenchar]

Hey Hay Chee,
Just another thought Ill make sure I only pick 100/1 shots and if we can find a bookie to take the bets we will be billionaires in a month.

Kenchar

[Hay Chee]

You still dont see it do u. you sit right next to a pokie machine its a machine REPEAT ITS A METAL MACHINE. becaus your right next to it and ITS A METAL MACHIN you can send energy by your visulisation to alter the way it works if you lern a guru called Saul told me about this it can be done but if you cant do it the pokies will eat you up

[puntz]

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[Cosmo]

Hay Chee, I want my money back. I was down the club, using your flawless method (and winning of course), but everytime the change girl went past my "visulisation" focused on her and her top came off, but when I looked back at the machine it had mind-melded my credits back into it's coffers. Or perhaps this only happened in my head after I tried those mushrooms that "Guru Saul" gave me. After all, I'm sure the drinks lady only had "two" legs the last time I was there, and that lengthy debate I had with the urinal seemed a little more heated than usual.

I think you may be doing a bit too much pulling of your one armed bandit, but I needeed a laugh today, so thank you for that.

P.S. - say g'day to the Guru for me.

Cosmo

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[darkydog2002]

PADDY.IS THAT MICROSOFT C FOR NEURONS A MISPELLING.ARE YOU SURE YOU DONT MEAN MORONS.

[Paddy]

Fascinating site puntz - I spent all day there today and forgot to have a bet!! :eek:

Pretty sure it is NEURONS darkydog2002 :cool:

[ubetido]

well you certainly got a bite lol

[Redcraze]

Well done HAY CHEE.

Best hook, line and sinker job I have seen in years.

[becareful]

Paddy,

Better give that new Windows TP a miss. I was one of the early Beta testers and it has ruined my life. First my boss asked me to stay late one day and whilst saying "Yes" I was thinking "You selfish bastard - why are you going home early and making me stay late" - of course the bloody software picked up my thoughts and emailed them straight to my boss so no more job. Same night my wife called to ask what time I would be home - I thought "I will be finished here at 7pm so by the time I have been to the pub for a beer and to check out that new barmaid I will be home by 9pm" - I naturally told her 9pm but the bloody computer emailed my thoughts to her as well so now I have no wife and no job!

:sad: :sad: :sad:

[Hay Chee]

Do you remembr what they said when peple said the earth wasnt flat we hav more power in our minds then we realy no all we have to do is harnes that powr and energy if we did pokies would no loga exist visulisation would destro them YES YES VISULISATION ITS THE NAME OF THE GAME GO VISULISATION GO GO GO

[Release the Hounds]

Forget the pokies, how I do pass this positive 'energy' onto my greyhounds?
They would win with a leg in the air. (if not, at least they would be spiritually sound).

[kenchar]

Hey HAY CHEE,
You are a great person, for bringing a laugh to our life. There is too much sadness in the world today and the bull*** you go on with really makes me laugh.
KEEP THE POSTS COMING

Your Admirer.

Kenchar

[umrum]

On 2003-06-25 15:51, becareful wrote:
Paddy,

Better give that new Windows TP a miss. I was one of the early Beta testers and it has ruined my life. First my boss asked me to stay late one day and whilst saying "Yes" I was thinking "You selfish bastard - why are you going home early and making me stay late" - of course the bloody software picked up my thoughts and emailed them straight to my boss so no more job. Same night my wife called to ask what time I would be home - I thought "I will be finished here at 7pm so by the time I have been to the pub for a beer and to check out that new barmaid I will be home by 9pm" - I naturally told her 9pm but the bloody computer emailed my thoughts to her as well so now I have no wife and no job!

:sad: :sad: :sad:

is this true?

[Paddy]

It must be, becareful doesn't fib (much) :roll:

[pharlap]

Stuff my lucky aunt I BELIEVE It millions wouldn,t.

[Hay Chee]

Hey have u herd off the latest tv its 3 dimenshonal so when you watch it from diffrent possies u will see a diffrent picture. Do you remember a twilight zone movie someone was sent into the tv into cartoon world you saw her bein chased by cartoon monsters If they can invent all that just think bout it. how about practicing mind over matter when you watch the races on TV Im going to try and lern it Ive been practising to beat the favrite so far with good results. Now i'm going to try and concerntrate on a horse and make it win i no the unbelivers will larf but theres more to life and things than we know we only use 1 per cent of our brains ability. i have faith I belive we have so much more power from our mind and if we lern it can be done

[BettyBoop]

Im a beliver Hay Chee. The concept of parallel dimensions is not new - in fact, it's been hypothesized that they somehow exist due to matter-antimatter imbalance. Interdimensional portals are not new either.

Society neither recognizes nor sanctions a personal change that does not have its origin in the immediate environment. It is difficult to undergo a perceptual shift while maintaining a stranglehold on the status quo. Conversely, if the status quo should be altered dramatically, it is equally stressful to adjust one's perspective in tandem with the shifting environment.

Some say that we live in the third dimension. That is, we have length, depth and height. Others would add another dimension and call it motion, placing us in the fourth dimension. Mathematically, there is a strong argument for dimensions below and above us. A single point in space could be assigned the name of the zero dimension. That point, extended in a straight line to infinity in two opposite directions could be named the first dimension. That line, extended sideways on a single plane to infinity in two directions, could be assigned the name, second dimension. That plane, extended to infinity perpendicular to itself in two directions, could be called the third dimension. Movement within that dimension could be labeled the fourth dimension. By mathematical extrapolation, there could be a fifth dimension, a sixth, etc. Just how many dimensions are there? If our universe is infinite, could there be an infinite number of other worlds or dimensions, each being infinite in scope? It boggles the mind to think of not just infinity squared or cubed, but infinity to the infinith power!

[Paddy]

And on a completely different note (PLEASE!) :grin:

The European Commission has announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German, which was the other possibility.

Her Majesty's Government has conceded that English spelling has room for improvement, and has accepted a 5 year phase-in plan of a new format to be known as "Euro English".

YEAR 1: In the first year "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this will make the sival servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be dropped in favour of the "k". This should klear up konfusion, and komputer keyboards kan have one less letter.

YEAR 2: There will be a growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with the "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 persent shorter.

YEAR 3: In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. The government will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is disgrasful, and they should go away.

YEAR 4: By the 4th year, pepl wil be reseptiv to steps lik replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

YEAR 5: During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be droped from vords kontaning "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinazions of leters.

ZE FUTUR: After ze fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubl or difikulti and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understan ech ozer in ze EU. Ze drem vil haf finali kum tru.

[xanadu]

Yavoll Paddy or is it Sgt Schultz?
Very well put!

Cheers.:grin:

[umrum]

thats about as funny as it gets paddy. classic mate. nice work.

[umrum]

thats about as funny as it gets paddy. classic mate. nice work.

[Mark]

Good for you Betty.
Whilst I don't give Haychee's method much credence, I won't bag it either.
People still don't believe that it's possible to back every runner in a race & have no losers. I have now branched out to betting on UK races as they bet e/w when there is an odds on favourite, and even though they pay 1/4 the place for races of 5-7 runners, there is a possible race nearly every night.

[becareful]

Mark,

Just wondering what bookie(s) you use for the UK betting? I am assuming you are betting via the Internet.

[umrum]

why would you want to back e/w on an odds on favourite

[Rogan Josh]

I'm guessing you are able to back something EW to beat the odds-on favourite, but I could be wrong. :wink:

[kenchar]

Hey Paddy,
Great stuff,pissed myself laughing.
Even my wife who is asian Worked it out and had a good laugh.
Congrats
kenchar

[kenchar]

Hey Paddy
Just printd yur possst but fink dere mus be sumfing rong wiv me cumputa as alf de page wus undelined wiv spellin mistaks
cheers
kenchar

[Mark]

Becareful....go to oddschecker.com, they list about 12 bookies there (including exchanges), I have accounts with 6 of them.

Umrum....it's not as simple as backing a runner e/w just because it's odds on, it's what an odds on favourite does to the place % that counts.

Rogan Josh.....no, I back every runner when I can. See reply to Umrum. Backing a 4/6 runner that gets a place returns you 58% of your outlay. Why is it then, that @ 4/1 running a place only returns 100%, when it is 6 times the price?, surely it should return 6 x 58% or 348%. Please don't write back that the 4/6 place getter is a loser because that would show that you have missed the point. When there is an odds on favourite it greatly reduces the place % & that is the advantage that I look for.

[shy]

Mark, can you start a new thread and explain what you do.... or is that a but rude of me :smile:

You've got my cogs turning but my math needs help.

Thanks
shy

[Mark]

Sorry shy, I have previously tried to market what I do, so am not giving it away. Not allowed to sell on here, which is fair enough, and have copped abuse from closed minds in the past. Just to say that I back all runners in a race (where possible) on an e/w basis & have no losers.

[xanadu]

G'day shy,

I recommend you refer to the "bible"- Don Scott's "Winning More" and refer to Chapters 16 & 18.
Everything you need is outlined there mate.

Cheers.

[shy]

Thanks Mark... I understand and hope you're doing very well from your hard work.

Thanks Xanadu, it's about time I dusted that book off.

shy

[Mark]

SR6, 102% win, 266% place, result...punting bliss, and these weren't on the best prices.

ACTUAL OUTLAY $5790
ACTUAL RETURN $6002
RISK FREE PROFIT $212
WORST POSSIBLE RESULT +$202
BEST POSSIBLE RESULT +$907
Hardly seems worth it, or is it ??

Keep reading your books Xanadu, you won't find this anywhere.

[xanadu]

Hullo Mark,

Good luck to you if everything is rolling along smoothly.
From your figures you made a POT of 3.49% from backing every horse in the race.
It just seems a tedious task for such a return whereas if you selectively backed "certainties" in NSW or with IAS you would return at worst a 4% place div and you only have to back one horse. You may only have one bet per day whereas backing a number of "certainties" for the place a punter would be able to magnify returns significantly. Especially if that punter "pyramided" his/her wagers.
As I said, all the best to you.

Cheers.

[crash]

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[Mark]

Xanadu
Yes it was only 3.66% profit but could have been as high as 15.6%. As for certainties in racing....well, no comment.

[becareful]

Xanadu,

Have to agree with Mark here, "selective" backing of "certainties" doesn't give you a guaranteed miniumum of 4%, you could end up with -100% when your certainty breaks down, misses the start, gets taken out by another runner or any of the other things that can happen to "certainties". What Mark is talking about is a guaranteed profit no matter which order they finish in (or which ones fall over!). Now if his average return is 5% and he only finds one race per week that could still turn a $5000 starting bank into $63000 in a year (although he may have trouble finding a bookie to take the large bets at the end of the year!). Not bad for such a small return.

_________________
"Computers can do that????" - Homer Simpson

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[xanadu]

Point taken becareful,

My own selective place-betting is between the 80%-90% range and yes it is not the same as getting 100%. However, my average div is $1.31 so I have a bit of leeway.
As I said, good luck to anyone following their strategy and each to his/her own.
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Cheers.

[mystic]

Hey Hay Chee, I actually find your concept quite interesting, this has actually worked for me before - well I think so anyway, if only it worked on the horses! There is an old saying it is a mugs game, but hey if one is winning the only mug is the person who made that saying up!

[umrum]

sounds like hay chee and mystic are joint presidents of the mugs club to me.

[mystic]

Ha Ha Ha