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Chrome Prince
4th April 2014, 02:36 PM
So many people waiting on some betting systems rather than lay or arb systems.
Thought I'd contribute my Bunbury Bonanza System:

Last start winner at Bunbury.
Must not be favourite this start.
Not first up from a spell.

Selections 1,627
Winners 246
Strike Rate 15.12%
Profit $465.50
POT 28.62%
Average Dividend $8.51
Maximum Dividend $93.00

Dennis G
4th April 2014, 11:46 PM
Is that - last start winner@Bunbury or this start is Bunbury, but last start winner anywhere?

Either way, a bit skinny SR....

But thanks, mate.

blackdog1
4th April 2014, 11:54 PM
Is that - last start winner@Bunbury or this start is Bunbury, but last start winner anywhere?

Either way, a bit skinny SR....

But thanks, mate."Last start winner at Bunbury."

Chrome Prince
5th April 2014, 12:14 AM
Up the strike rate a little and add it to the above:

Last start winner at Bunbury
Racing within 30 days
Non metro track this start.

Selections 1,116
Winners 263
Strike Rate 23.57%
Profit $233.30
POT 20.91%
Average Dividend $5.13
Maximum Dividend $24.00

That makes it a total of 698.80 units profit and POT of 25.48% POT.

Chrome Prince
5th April 2014, 12:18 AM
Anyone guess why Bunbury throws this result?

http://www.progroupracing.com.au/SiteMedia/w3svc1270/Uploads/Images/Bunbury-Racecourse.jpg

dcpg
5th April 2014, 01:48 AM
So many people waiting on some betting systems rather than lay or arb systems.
Thought I'd contribute my Bunbury Bonanza System:

Last start winner at Bunbury.
Must not be favourite this start.
Not first up from a spell.

Selections 1,627
Winners 246
Strike Rate 15.12%
Profit $465.50
POT 28.62%
Average Dividend $8.51
Maximum Dividend $93.00

I like the Max Dividend!

walkermac
5th April 2014, 10:56 AM
It might not be due to Bunbury track specifically, but rather where the horse can perform next (per the system). If non-metro tracks are excluded, I think it leaves York, Northam, Bunbury and Mt Barker within a 4 hour travel loop. Perhaps the limited number of available tracks might have something to say about the class of racing (???). And if as last start winner it's not favourite, a metro horse may be taking a big class drop for a run 'cause it's out of form/early in preparation (???)

How's the S/R compare with Bunbury repeat runners vs a horse running elsewhere? Maybe the course handicapper isn't the best...

What about maiden vs non-maiden last start winners? Maybe it's the done thing in the region to run your maiden through Bunbury (there are no maiden races at Ascot today, nor the previous 3 meets; and just checked the last 2 at Belmont Park: no maidens)

walkermac
5th April 2014, 11:03 AM
My WA geography isn't the best :) Missing Narrogin, Toodyay....and probably plenty of others too :)

SpeedyBen
5th April 2014, 12:40 PM
My WA geography isn't the best :) Missing Narrogin, Toodyay....and probably plenty of others too :)Pinjarra missing too. That's the closest one to Bunbury.

stugots
5th April 2014, 01:23 PM
Why?, Dont think it's got anything to do with the track itself CP, although it is known to favour front runners, other than that there are 60+ trainers operating out of there & it is close to Perth, which makes it the best provincial training area in the state.

Therefore imo winners at that track that are then sent out to non-metro races at their next start away from Bunbury may often be meeting slightly inferior opposition despite the fact they are probably moving up in class. If they are running again at Bunbury, well they are in form & having won their last start there, odds are they are front running types. & the non-fav filter helps add value to the system.

Chrome Prince
5th April 2014, 10:10 PM
Some interesting points of view.
I think it's a combination of the points mentioned and the track which throws the results.
It's a leaders track with a short straight, but also a fairly testing turn into the home straight. The camber of that turn is quite tight by comparison. Basically you have to be on the pace or leading, and able to handle a hard turn and hang on in the straight.

Therefore, although the strike rate is fairly consistent with other tracks, the horses generally start over the odds next start.

Tipsy
6th April 2014, 06:00 PM
You could add Geelong to that list

dcpg
9th April 2014, 03:43 PM
Up the strike rate a little and add it to the above:

Last start winner at Bunbury
Racing within 30 days
Non metro track this start.

Selections 1,116
Winners 263
Strike Rate 23.57%
Profit $233.30
POT 20.91%
Average Dividend $5.13
Maximum Dividend $24.00

That makes it a total of 698.80 units profit and POT of 25.48% POT.

Bunbury Races today:
Chocolate Moon and Angel Wing are last start winners at Bunbury. Both are early favourites. Does this fit the criteria ? Will be watching them - even though I usually don't bet on WA races...

dcpg
9th April 2014, 05:39 PM
Chocolate Moon just won - sprinting away from the field! Paid at least $4

dcpg
9th April 2014, 06:20 PM
Angel Wing finished 4th. However, with a $1 bet on both horses, you would have made $4. That's 200% profit...

SpeedyBen
9th April 2014, 09:14 PM
The winner of race 8 was also a selection I believe, except that it was favourite.
So, two from 3 with one official selection which won at 4.0 local tote.

dcpg
9th April 2014, 10:45 PM
The winner of race 8 was also a selection I believe, except that it was favourite.
So, two from 3 with one official selection which won at 4.0 local tote.

Its ok if its favourite - with the "revised" second lot of rules. That means 2 winners out of 3 that were last start winners at Bunbury!
That's $6.30 from a $3 total bet. Sounds good to me...

Looking back to 26 March (last Bunbury Races), there were 2 picks for a 3rd and a win at $4.40.

Chrome Prince
10th April 2014, 02:50 AM
1/1/2014 to 31/3/2014

Last start winner at Bunbury
Racing within 30 days
Non metro track this start.

47 selections
11 winners
23.40% strike rate
Profit $1.20 (TAB price)
POT 2.55%

Place Profit $11.40 (TAB price)
24.26% POT

kiwi
10th April 2014, 06:31 AM
Does the $93 winner distort the profit result?How likely is it that a huge outsider will win again?

Chrome Prince
10th April 2014, 11:53 AM
Of course kiwi, but looking at the prices of winners, longshots often bob up.
They are sent out way over their true odds.

SpeedyBen
10th April 2014, 03:54 PM
Its ok if its favourite - with the "revised" second lot of rules. That means 2 winners out of 3 that were last start winners at Bunbury!
That's $6.30 from a $3 total bet. Sounds good to me...

Looking back to 26 March (last Bunbury Races), there were 2 picks for a 3rd and a win at $4.40.I preferred the first set of rules myself. However, as I'm not backing either set it matters not.

Chrome Prince
15th April 2014, 08:32 PM
For those following, there is a potential selection for tomorrow.

Ascot R4 #6 Charm Destiny

SpeedyBen
18th April 2014, 08:55 PM
Tomorrow ....
Ascot 4.7
Fortius Quo Vadis

mickthemiller
19th April 2014, 10:09 AM
thanks speedy.
I am following this one with interest

mickthemiller
19th April 2014, 11:02 AM
would like to know the figs for last start bunbury winners.
racing next start at ascot, Belmont however.

dcpg
19th April 2014, 01:23 PM
I am also following this with much interest! Charm Destiny finished 3rd.

Chrome Prince
19th April 2014, 04:35 PM
Unfortunately weakened badly to finish 2nd last after up there for most of the race.

It wasn't like this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiUjb2HRxEY

This is a low strike rate method, patience is key.

dcpg
19th April 2014, 05:04 PM
Unfortunately weakened badly to finish 2nd last after up there for most of the race.

It wasn't like this.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiUjb2HRxEY

This is a low strike rate method, patience is key.

I know this horse was an outsider - but so many outsiders won today, why couldn't it keep up the trend! The video is great!

partypooper
19th April 2014, 09:02 PM
Video, very satirical but EXACTLY like my local betting shop back in the old country, remember it well, ahhhhhhhhhhh!

SpeedyBen
20th April 2014, 02:30 AM
Albany 6.16 Zero to Sixty

mickthemiller
20th April 2014, 10:39 AM
zero to sixty is scratched.
unfortunately.


horses racing tomorrow 21/6 Bunbury

race 6 ( solheim, comfortably and lucciola )
race 8 ( howya goin' now )

I think this system is one to follow-especially for place betting.
I have done an analysis since 1.1.2014
last start winners raced at Bunbury.
non metro next start, within 30 days.
48 runners ( 13 wins $ 57.40 return )( 29 placings including winners $64 return) - using best of three totes.

dcpg
22nd April 2014, 02:52 PM
zero to sixty is scratched.
unfortunately.


horses racing tomorrow 21/6 Bunbury

race 6 ( solheim, comfortably and lucciola )
race 8 ( howya goin' now )

I think this system is one to follow-especially for place betting.
I have done an analysis since 1.1.2014
last start winners raced at Bunbury.
non metro next start, within 30 days.
48 runners ( 13 wins $ 57.40 return )( 29 placings including winners $64 return) - using best of three totes.

Solheim and Lucciola came 2nd and 3rd.
Howya didn't place. Comfortably was scratched.

Not too bad with 2 placings out of 3.

Chrome Prince
22nd April 2014, 03:14 PM
And the winner of the last race, while not within the rules was a last start Bunbury winner!

Chrome Prince
22nd April 2014, 03:22 PM
I mean Race 8

dcpg
23rd April 2014, 02:26 PM
In Ascot today, race 2 - we have Kim Mini - a last start winner at Bunbury...

dcpg
23rd April 2014, 03:18 PM
In Ascot today, race 2 - we have Kim Mini - a last start winner at Bunbury...

She has just came third - very close finish. Paid roughly $4 a place.

Twodogs
23rd April 2014, 03:25 PM
In Ascot today, race 2 - we have Kim Mini - a last start winner at Bunbury...

Nice result!!! $4.20 best tote the place! I can live with that

Chrome Prince
23rd April 2014, 08:43 PM
April Bunbury system results
<pre>
WIN PLACE
Races Bet: 10 10
Races Won: 4 7
S.R./Race: 40.0% 70.0%
Outlay($): 13.00 13.00
Return : 17.80 17.60
$ Profit : 4.80 4.60
% P.O.T. : 36.90% 35.40%
</pre>

peakester
24th April 2014, 12:28 AM
Chrome,

Sorry, but may be dumb. Don't get post 22. You are saying a possible selection at Ascot. Thought the rules were for this start , has to be running at a non-metro track.

Thank you for providing the system and giving us something to think about re nature of track etc

Chrome Prince
24th April 2014, 01:49 AM
Refer post number 1.

There is the original method and the revised method to lift the strike rate.
You have to have a bit of ability to win at Bunbury.
The track demands more from a horse than a conventional country track, therefore horses usually start well over the odds, this is backed up by even the place odds.

Chrome Prince
24th April 2014, 07:31 PM
There is a potential selection tomorrow:

Pinjarra
R 7
# 4
CHOCOLATE MOON

Chrome Prince
25th April 2014, 06:43 PM
Chocolate Moon won as favourite.

Twodogs
25th April 2014, 06:45 PM
There is a potential selection tomorrow:

Pinjarra
R 7
# 4
CHOCOLATE MOON

Well done another winner! CP thanks for sharing the idea of looking at something different and a winner it looks.

dcpg
25th April 2014, 07:57 PM
Chocolate Moon won as favourite.

I have been following these horses - but not betting on them! Ahhhh....

SpeedyBen
26th April 2014, 08:14 PM
CP
Are there other tracks in Oz which display the same characteristics?

Chrome Prince
27th April 2014, 12:22 PM
Not until you dig deeper Speedy.
Bunbury is a standout performer over all distances.
If you break down tracks by distance and class, then there are other good performers.

This system I have provided is a free forum system and not one of the systems that come with the database, it's purely a demonstration of using the database uncnventionally can return some hidden gems.
It's also really meant to be something to incorporate into existing strategies as a side earner because it's a longshot system primarily.

Chrome Prince
28th April 2014, 11:03 PM
Got some potential bets for Wednesday and Thursday at this stage:

30/04/2014 (WED) PINJARRA
R 5 # 3 APACHE ROCKET
R 7 # 1 ANGEL WING
R 7 # 5 ZERO TO SIXTY

01/05/2014 (THU) BUNBURY
R 5 # 4 ELITE FLIGHT
R 5 # 7 STAR OF HUSSON
R 6 # 6 STRING OF SMILES
R 8 # 9 TATOLI

Chrome Prince
29th April 2014, 05:37 PM
CP
Are there other tracks in Oz which display the same characteristics?

I'll give just one example of many of how this information can be used for success, i.e. thinking outside the square.

Take Perth metro tracks, Ascot and Belmont.

Each track has it's own quirks, and therefore horses that win at Ascot are not the same as horses that win at Belmont.
Horses that are able to reel off fast final sectionals at Ascot are far superior to similar horses at Belmont.
That theory being true and correct should be played out in the stats.

Taking final race sectionals for 1200m races at both venues and looking at the horses next starts we come up with this...

Last start winners over 1200m racing again within 30 days AND sectional times less than 35 seconds....

Belmont
553 selections
132 winners
23.87% Strike Rate
-12.28% POT

Ascot
397 selections
121 winners
30.48% Strike Rate
13.44% POT

We haven't even looked at track going, or class.
This is bare bones stats only for 1200m races.

Armed with this information we can come up with horses to lay and horses to back and a pretty comprehensive package of stats and selections when applied to all tracks that record race sectionals over various distances and going.

Hopefully that's just a small demonstration of digging a little bit deeper.

Rinconpaul
30th April 2014, 04:48 AM
Good stuff, CP. There's always an angle if you're prepared to look. For those same two tracks using the same criteria, there is a very overlooked factor, and that's whether it's the LSW's Home track today?

SR for not Home track is 17.6%, and for Home track 9.5%. The opposite to what you'd think!

Chrome Prince
30th April 2014, 06:34 PM
30/04/2014 (WED) PINJARRA
R 5 # 3 APACHE ROCKET unplaced
R 7 # 1 ANGEL WING $6.60 Best Tote
R 7 # 5 ZERO TO SIXTY unplaced

The bonanza continues :D

Twodogs
30th April 2014, 06:41 PM
You beauty CP!

Another great result

Chrome Prince
30th April 2014, 08:27 PM
Thanks Twodogs, I have to err on caution side though.
For anyone following this system, it's hit a real purple patch recently and is bound to hit the skids until an overlay pops up, so please be cautious as it really is a longshot system.

Twodogs
30th April 2014, 08:33 PM
The last meeting at Bunbury is Thursday before they take a break so only 30 days before the system goes into recess I guess.

Tipsy
1st May 2014, 04:17 PM
This system has to fall in a hole, doesn't it? The S/R should stay the same but surely the POT will drop as a result of this exposure ..... surely!, or are all punters as dumb as me and continue to look a gift horse fair and square in the molars?!?!

Chrome Prince
1st May 2014, 05:22 PM
I'm confident it won't fall in a hole longterm given the makeup of the dividends / overlays. I'm sure we are due for a run of outs, but am really enjoying the "purple patch".
Ironically the shorter end selections have been getting up lately, just biding my time for an outsider, as we are overdue for a bobber.

Chrome Prince
1st May 2014, 07:06 PM
01/05/2014 (THU) BUNBURY
R 5 # 4 ELITE FLIGHT 3RD $2.80
R 5 # 7 STAR OF HUSSON WON $1.80 Best Tote
R 6 # 6 STRING OF SMILES 3RD $1.80
R 8 # 9 TATOLI 5th

A monster of a run from Tatoli, drew barrier 19, was last of 15 on the turn and rattled home for 5th. Doesn't make a difference, but he sure had the motor.

dcpg
2nd May 2014, 01:44 PM
01/05/2014 (THU) BUNBURY
R 5 # 4 ELITE FLIGHT 3RD $2.80
R 5 # 7 STAR OF HUSSON WON $1.80 Best Tote
R 6 # 6 STRING OF SMILES 3RD $1.80
R 8 # 9 TATOLI 5th

A monster of a run from Tatoli, drew barrier 19, was last of 15 on the turn and rattled home for 5th. Doesn't make a difference, but he sure had the motor.

Still not a bad strike rate, especially for the place. Great little system.

Chrome Prince
9th May 2014, 04:59 PM
A runner on Saturday...
10/05/2014 (SAT) BELMONT
R 5 #10 WAYSIDE

Chrome Prince
10th May 2014, 04:37 PM
4th :(

Chrome Prince
13th May 2014, 10:13 PM
Two contenders tomorrow:
BELMONT
R 3 # 3 SENOR HURACAN
R 3 # 6 STAR OF HUSSON

Chrome Prince
14th May 2014, 03:44 PM
BELMONT
R 3 # 3 SENOR HURACAN unplaced
R 3 # 6 STAR OF HUSSON WON $2.60 Best Tote

dcpg
14th May 2014, 03:56 PM
BELMONT
R 3 # 3 SENOR HURACAN unplaced
R 3 # 6 STAR OF HUSSON WON $2.60 Best Tote

'Star' won in a canter! 'Senor' not so good...

Chrome Prince
14th May 2014, 08:36 PM
Selections Thursday...
NORTHAM
R 7 # 3 HEEZ OUR WALLY
R 8 # 3 MEDIA MAK

Chrome Prince
15th May 2014, 07:41 PM
NORTHAM
R 7 # 3 HEEZ OUR WALLY unplaced
R 8 # 3 MEDIA MAK 3rd $2.50 best tote

Chrome Prince
19th May 2014, 04:19 PM
Wednesday BB selections:
21/05/2014 (WED) BELMONT
R 3 # 8 SHALO
R 6 # 9 PINOT REILLY

Chrome Prince
21st May 2014, 03:39 PM
R 3 # 8 SHALO 3RD $2.00 Best Tote
R 6 # 9 PINOT REILLY Scratched

Chrome Prince
21st May 2014, 04:48 PM
Next selection runs Saturday at Belmont:
24/05/2014 BELMONT
R 6 # 9 CHERIE AMOUR

Chrome Prince
21st May 2014, 05:52 PM
So far this year, we have yet to have a big winner, however, it's running at a very nice place return using just one tote dividend...

PLACE
Races Bet: 97
Races Won: 53
S.R./Race: 54.60%
Outlay($): $117.00
Return : $131.20
$ Profit : $14.20
% P.O.T. : 12.10%

Chrome Prince
24th May 2014, 07:54 PM
R 6 # 9 CHERIE AMOUR unplaced

dcpg
28th May 2014, 09:47 PM
Pinot Reilly ran in Race 3 today - but didn't place.

Chrome Prince
29th May 2014, 12:33 AM
It wasn't a selection because it was outside the month break cutoff.

Chrome Prince
8th June 2014, 10:53 AM
Having Bunbury withdrawals, come on Bunbury, get your meeting on!
Next meeting it seems is not until October 19th. Bah Humbug.

dcpg
9th June 2014, 11:52 PM
Having Bunbury withdrawals, come on Bunbury, get your meeting on!
Next meeting it seems is not until October 19th. Bah Humbug.

Gee, that's ages in the future...I don't think addicted (opps sorry) determined punters can wait that long!

SpeedyBen
9th June 2014, 11:53 PM
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.

dcpg
10th June 2014, 12:03 AM
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.

Shall check this out!

Chrome Prince
10th June 2014, 12:17 AM
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.

Not good overall Speedy.
-24.50% longterm.

However, "flying of late" is an understatement :D

207.50% POT for May!
72% POT for April.
68.52% POT for 2014
-55.94% Loss for 2013.

SpeedyBen
10th June 2014, 01:21 AM
************. I did a spot check of 2013 and it didn't look so hot. I should have sold it via PPM based on 2014 results.

Chrome Prince
30th November 2014, 09:32 AM
Anyone keep this little gem in their vault?
Since racing returned to Bunbury these are the results.

01/10/2014-30/11/2014
WIN PLACE
Bets: 11 11
Races Won: 4 7
S.R.: 36.40% 63.60%
Outlay: $12.00 $12.00
Return: $34.70 $28.30
Profit: $22.70 $16.30
P.O.T.: 189.20% 135.80%


Using only TAB prices!

The Ocho
30th November 2014, 10:23 AM
Anyone keep this little gem in their vault?
Since racing returned to Bunbury these are the results.

01/10/2014-30/11/2014
WIN PLACE
Bets: 11 11
Races Won: 4 7
S.R.: 36.40% 63.60%
Outlay: $12.00 $12.00
Return: $34.70 $28.30
Profit: $22.70 $16.30
P.O.T.: 189.20% 135.80%


Using only TAB prices!
Looking good CP but how do you find if a horse was a LSW at Bunbury without trawling through every LSW results throughout Australia - or is it only for WA races next start?

Chrome Prince
30th November 2014, 11:38 AM
Usually only WA races, but I also subscribe to form and run it through a database to find selections easier.

darkydog2002
30th November 2014, 11:48 AM
Post deleted. We can do without this sort of stuff here. Moderator.

darkydog2002
30th November 2014, 11:49 AM
Post deleted. We can do without this sort of stuff here. Moderator.

The Ocho
30th November 2014, 11:52 AM
Usually only WA races, but I also subscribe to form and run it through a database to find selections easier.
Okay thanks CP

aussielongboat
30th November 2014, 11:56 AM
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.

i'd say this is data and its results that just correlates with some winners.

in other words the selection method wont "cause" any winners - there just happens to be a few at a particular point in time and they could just as easily drop off.

Its the old case of correlation and causation being mixed up.

aussielongboat
30th November 2014, 11:57 AM
Here's a WA system that has been flying of late. Back any No 1 in WA city or prov races which is a last start winner on a different track. No first uppers. Lots of good prices.
I have no long term data for this so caveat emptor.

i'd say this is data and its results that just correlates with some winners.

in other words the selection method wont "cause" any winners - there just happens to be a few at a particular point in time and they could just as easily drop off.

Its the old case of correlation and causation being mixed up.

Chrome Prince
30th November 2014, 02:52 PM
a) It's free, the rules are in the thread.
b) I don't sell it.
c) At least I post stats and results rather than just post losing systems.

darkydog2002
30th November 2014, 04:19 PM
Hey.
It wasnt a attack on you.

It just means its not for me that one.

I know you dont sell systems and produce from your Data Base very good ones.

I apologize if you were offended but there was no intent by me.

Cheers

dcpg
3rd December 2014, 03:56 PM
Bunbury is about to start - and there are a lot last start winners from Bunbury here! Lets see how they go.

dcpg
4th December 2014, 12:28 AM
Gee - what a whitewash here.

6 LSW under 15-1 - and none win!

beton
4th December 2014, 09:51 AM
Gee - what a whitewash here.

6 LSW under 15-1 - and none win!I recall that the point was last start winner at Bunbury starting today at another venue.

Chrome Prince
4th December 2014, 10:02 AM
Last start win at Bunbury, not last start winners at Bunbury.
As Beton says, there is more profit when they start elsewhere within 30 days of that win.
There are also filters regarding distance that can increase profit, but I left it at that for this thread.

dcpg
4th December 2014, 03:04 PM
Last start win at Bunbury, not last start winners at Bunbury.
As Beton says, there is more profit when they start elsewhere within 30 days of that win.
There are also filters regarding distance that can increase profit, but I left it at that for this thread.

Gosh, I forgot that small point - which makes all the difference (at least to the races at Bunbury!).

SpeedyBen
15th December 2014, 03:57 PM
Nice 14.0 winner at PJ yesterday - Cape Command.

dcpg
16th December 2014, 02:47 AM
Nice 14.0 winner at PJ yesterday - Cape Command.

Also a last start winner - fitting the profile set up by the Eva Method, although it drifted from 10 to 15.

Chrome Prince
16th December 2014, 07:26 PM
There was also BELLE LA VIE which won at odds of $7.30 at Ascot last Wednesday bringing the POT for December so far to 31.30% using Tattsbet dividends.

SpeedyBen
16th December 2014, 10:17 PM
Also a last start winner - fitting the profile set up by the Eva Method, although it drifted from 10 to 15.
When I used to bet in the traditional manner in a betting ring I used to put more on if a horse I fancied drifted after I had backed it.

Chrome Prince
17th December 2014, 10:50 AM
When I used to bet in the traditional manner in a betting ring I used to put more on if a horse I fancied drifted after I had backed it.

Hi Speedy,
There was a professional lady gambler who was extremely successful, I cannot recall her name just now, it was many decades ago. She used to pick two horses that were set to fight out the race (the rest of the field was not much competition), and she would do exactly the same.
The more one horse drifted, the more she put on.
Quite savvy, because she was wealthy, so they'd roll in the price a point or two, and roll out the other and she go again on the other. Obviously when the betting ring was full of bookies, she could flutter reasonably un noticed between bookies.
I wish I could remember her name now.

Chrome Prince
17th December 2014, 11:03 AM
Ascot race 1 today might be worth an eachway bet.
Volkoff is a last start winner at Bunbury and should be eachway odds.
But only a dabble because this is a long term strategy.
She won a barrier trial at Belmont, then tried to race on the pace and failed at Belmont, went to Bunbury and settled well back in the field and stormed home.
She needs to be ridden patiently and Whiting has ridden her in all starts including today. If Whiting sends her forward, it's pretty much no chance.
The race time and sectional was a cracker.

darkydog2002
17th December 2014, 11:20 AM
Her name was Rose.
I believe her son became quite wealthy in his own right by doing the same.
Cheers

SpeedyBen
17th December 2014, 02:55 PM
Ascot race 1 today might be worth an eachway bet.
Volkoff is a last start winner at Bunbury and should be eachway odds.
But only a dabble because this is a long term strategy.
She won a barrier trial at Belmont, then tried to race on the pace and failed at Belmont, went to Bunbury and settled well back in the field and stormed home.
She needs to be ridden patiently and Whiting has ridden her in all starts including today. If Whiting sends her forward, it's pretty much no chance.
The race time and sectional was a cracker.
Volkoff has come up fav. on the WA TAB.
I may lay it if he pushes forward.

dcpg
17th December 2014, 06:34 PM
Ascot race 1 today might be worth an eachway bet.
Volkoff is a last start winner at Bunbury and should be eachway odds.
But only a dabble because this is a long term strategy.
She won a barrier trial at Belmont, then tried to race on the pace and failed at Belmont, went to Bunbury and settled well back in the field and stormed home.
She needs to be ridden patiently and Whiting has ridden her in all starts including today. If Whiting sends her forward, it's pretty much no chance.
The race time and sectional was a cracker.

Good call here. She won! But she didn't fit in the Eva Method, so I let this one go.

darkydog2002
17th December 2014, 07:31 PM
Whats the Eva Method?

Cheers

Chrome Prince
19th December 2014, 10:58 AM
http://www.propun.com.au/racing_forums/showthread.php?t=29291

It's on a different thread and applies to last start winners. Evajb001 added another few rules to it. But it doesn't really apply to this thread as the rules are different.

SpeedyBen
20th December 2014, 01:19 PM
A sneaky one today is Narrogin R5 No 4.

dcpg
23rd December 2014, 10:56 PM
There's quite a few LSW from Bunbury running tomorrow at Ascot. Will be a good test to see if we can get a few winners!

Chrome Prince
24th December 2014, 10:16 AM
Here they are:

ASCOT
R2 6 METEOROID
R3 3 DISTANT MEMORY
R4 10 YOUKNOWTHEDRILL
R5 2 RIDING SHOTGUN
R6 8 ANGEL SKY

Chrome Prince
24th December 2014, 01:08 PM
Fixed Odds

ASCOT
R2 6 METEOROID $2.50
R3 3 DISTANT MEMORY $4.60
R4 10 YOUKNOWTHEDRILL $4.40
R5 2 RIDING SHOTGUN $9.00
R6 8 ANGEL SKY $2.20

Seems there's not much value today :(

Chrome Prince
24th December 2014, 07:47 PM
Results

ASCOT
R2 6 METEOROID WON $2.40 $1.50
R3 3 DISTANT MEMORY
R4 10 YOUKNOWTHEDRILL
R5 2 RIDING SHOTGUN
R6 8 ANGEL SKY

Poor results today.

Lord Greystoke
25th December 2014, 05:37 PM
Results

ASCOT
R2 6 METEOROID WON $2.40 $1.50
R3 3 DISTANT MEMORY
R4 10 YOUKNOWTHEDRILL
R5 2 RIDING SHOTGUN
R6 8 ANGEL SKY

Poor results today.

Yup. Not good. We went without turkey today

LMAO have a good one

Cheers LG

Chrome Prince
2nd April 2015, 11:37 PM
Had a nice Bunbury Bonanza for March.

01/03/2015-31/03/2015
WIN PLACE
Races Bet: 31 31
Winners: 9 17
S.R.: 29.00% 54.80%
Outlay: 35.00 35.00
Return: 47.10 36.70
Profit: 12.10 1.70
P.O.T.: 34.60% 4.90%

*NSW Tote prices used.

dcpg
25th April 2015, 01:08 AM
There are 3 Bunbury LSW at Ascot on Saturday - 2 in the same race! Lets see how they go.