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walkermac
17th April 2020, 04:12 PM
Inside a month 'til the 2020 Andrew Ramsden, the race that gives ballot exemption in the Melbourne Cup to the winner. It will be taking place on May 16th on the Flemington racecourse.
Of $320,000. 1st $192,000, 2nd $57,600, 3rd $28,800, 4th $14,400, 5th $8,000, 6th $6,400, 7th $6,400, 8th $6,400
Prize money contribution totalling 3% will be directed to jockey and equine welfare prior to distribution Listed
No class restriction, Standard Weight for Age, Three-Years-Old, Four-Years-Old and Five-Years-Old, No sex restriction
Nominations close May 11th.
Last year's race saw a ding dong battle between Steel Prince and Surprise Baby. The former took the win but both ended up in the final Melbourne Cup field. Surprise Baby @ $12 finished the best of the pair in 5th 0.9L with Steel Prince - who had struggled to find form since his Spring return - coming in 9th 2.1L @ $61. They were the only two to progress from the Andrew Ramsden to The Cup.
Re-watch last year's Ramsden here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YsfrIGsXys
Complicating things a wee bit is interstate travel. The current Racing Victoria regulations allow horses to travel but none of the staff. The horse must be placed in the care of a local trainer and in their stable by 9am the day prior to a race. What does that mean for splitting prizemoney? Also, unless transported by an approved company, anyone else who does so won't be permitted access to Victorian racecourses for 14 days. Is this going to impact entries from NSW?
Racing is currently suspended in England, France, Germany, Ireland, Dubai and New Zealand. It remains to be seen how those suspensions will effect nominations for the Melbourne Cup. A lot will depend on when racing can begin in each of those respective countries. The qualification period for performances is quite a large one though: from 1st February 2019, if the Race Conditions remain similar to last year's.
Glancing through the first 2019 Order of Entry (https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2019-rv/the-sport/files/2019-lexus-melbourne-cup-order-of-entry-september-12) and quite a lot of European entrants qualified in races from June through to August. British Racing announced that their activities will remain suspended until at least the end of this month, to be reviewed again as time passes. If the races are held eventually then someone will have to win them, only perhaps with not the same polish as in previous years.
International air freight is still operating, so the horses could get here and the major stables would likely be keen to race for big money. Is the prize going to be as big though? There's little chance of a huge crowd coming through the turnstiles and given that 50% of betting turnover is via from pubs, clubs and TAB agencies, then there may be less in the kitty. Minimum prizemoney for Victorian races has already been reduced by 20% on Metro courses. Overseas stables are likely to be doing it tough as well, horses still need care and staff paid, but there's no prizemoney coming in to offset those costs; they may be less willing to take on a hugely expensive risk.
Depending on how long restrictions go on and where, there could be few to no Northern Hemisphere 3yos, less internationals and more local starters in The Cup. That may sound great if you're a nationalist, but given that Australia has few genuine horses over distance, it's as likely to turn it into another sit-and-sprint coin flip.
And that's all presuming that we can continue to keep COVID-19 under control in Australia. We've been remarkably lucky and it's undoubtedly bred some complacency. Our current success could also mean that we have pushed the disease peak later in the year, given how few people have caught it the first time around. Whatever occurs it would seem unlikely that the Melbourne Cup would be cancelled but it could be the most interesting lead-up for quite a while!
jose
19th April 2020, 07:05 PM
Looking forward to your views on the cup this year Mac.
Top thread and insights last year.
Will be a different ball game this year i fear with all the upheaval. Fingers crossed the TBreds can keep going around.
walkermac
26th April 2020, 04:12 PM
Sacramento has won a ballot exemption for the Andrew Ramsden after taking out the VRC St Leger in a very tight finish yesterday: https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1253927939101450240/vid/1280x720/N8f6evUVeDfXBDZO.mp4
Also on the Flemington program was last year's Melbourne Cup winner Vow And Declare in the 2600m William Newton VC Handicap. It didn't go great, with a 4.3L 5th placing and Jockey Craig Williams claiming after the race that the horse was 5 lengths off his best. His final 600m was 1 second slower than that achieved in his Cup victory, so that does sound about right. It was a genuine-run race though (only 0.42s off the 55 year old track record) so that was never going to suit Vow And Declare. They're now putting him away 'til Spring, as if the performance was terrible, but my thinking is that it was totally predictable given the conditions of the race.
Taking out the win was OTI import Haky. He came out for last year's Cup but fell around 10 spots short of making the final field. In the meantime he's switched trainers to Archie Alexander, who has endeavoured to stop his kamikaze leading ways. Yesterday it worked a treat, as he held off Sin To Win to take home the nearly $60k prizemoney. Perhaps enthusiasm should be tempered somewhat however, as apparently Sin To Win is off to race a maiden hurdle during the Warrnambool carnival. Archie Alexander is realistic regarding Haky's chances, declaring that he's a good country Cups contender but likely a little below the Melbourne Cup standard.
In other news, 2017 Cup Winner Rekindling is back in training with Joseph O'Brien. He was originally retired to stud but the now 6yo is responding well to his familiar Irish digs. He only raced the once following his Cup victory, finishing last in the 2019 Australian Cup. Yucatan is another Williams runner that has also made his way to the same O'Brien stable.
Prince Of Arran's connections intend to return to Australia for the Spring carnival, but note that it's all up in the air due to the COVID-19 restrictions. Their horses are still in work as they anticipate getting only around 2 weeks' notice as to when racing resumes. When it does, it's likely to be under similar conditions as to how Australian racing is operating currently.
walkermac
9th May 2020, 09:20 PM
Russian Camelot took out the SA Derby today in emphatic fashion, living up to all of the hype with a 2L victory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPXi9ONczbU.
For the bulk of the trip he was wide and without cover at the tail of the field. It's his 3rd win from 5 starts and while this race was reportedly his long-term target he had a few things go wrong with his preparation. First he was scratched at the barrier 5 weeks back when his gate didn't open, then 2 weeks ago he was scratched after he was found to have an inflamed throat.
His last run was a BM64 over 1600m (which he won by 7 lengths) so it was a fair step up to the 2500m distance. Doubt over his prep likely inflated his odds somewhat and he jumped at $2.90.
Russian Camelot is also a northern hemisphere 3yo so gave away 6 months' maturity to his rivals. His trainer Danny O'Brien is looking forward to Spring but is being coy regarding a tilt at the Melbourne Cup. That hasn't stopped wider speculation though and he's currently the equal second $15 favourite at Ladbroke's (with Surprise Baby and behind the $12 fave Master of Wine).
There's also been some pie-in-the-sky thinking regarding him going back to the northern hemisphere for some racing...
Northern Hemisphere racing is a bit of a mixed bag at present. German racing was back on Thursday with no crowds and even the jockeys wearing masks as they raced. They're reportedly not allowing any foreign runners until at least May 31st.
French racing will resume this Monday behind closed doors despite word coming late last week that there was a risk it wouldn't go ahead. They're also not allowing foreign runners, this time until June 1st.
The story is not as rosy in the UK with no firm resumption date as yet. The Government is announcing the next phase of their coronavirus response on Sunday and there's hope that they will give some guidance on the return of sport, including horse racing. If they do, then British Racing is ready to go: they've already published a program for the first 7 days of racing that will be put into action as soon as they know when they can kick it off. They also have a provisional plan for black-type races. The 3yo Classics are said to be the priority with the older-horse races slotted around them. Several of the fixtures lost in early Spring are hoped to be rescheduled from - best case scenario - the last two weeks of May; many others will be abandoned entirely though. You can find the list here: https://www.britishhorseracing.com/press_releases/resumption-update-provisional-flat-pattern-and-listed-race-programme/
The outlook in Ireland is pretty dire with news from the Government and Horse Racing Ireland that June 29th is the intended resumption date. HRI would like a concession to start earlier but there is little expectation that will occur and many have expressed their fears of the impact on the industry.
Horse racing is, of course, far secondary to health concerns, especially in harder-hit Europe. It's interesting though what could be the repercussions on our big race later this year.
walkermac
12th May 2020, 12:26 AM
Nominees and weights for this weekend's Andrew Ramsden: the race for a ballot exemption in the Melbourne Cup (and a $192k first prize).
<table><tbody><tr><td></td><td>Last 10 </td><td>Horse </td><td>Sex </td><td>Age </td><td>Trainer </td><td>Ballot </td><td>Weight </td><td>Penalty </td><td>Hcp Rating</td></tr> <tr><td>1 </td><td>080x081712 </td><td>RUNAWAY </td><td>R </td><td>5 </td><td>Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott </td><td>1 </td><td>58.5kg </td><td></td><td>93</td></tr> <tr><td>2 </td><td>x3349x211x </td><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>G </td><td>5 </td><td>Danny O'Brien </td><td>2 </td><td>58.5kg </td><td></td><td>102</td></tr> <tr><td>3 </td><td>32621x0751 </td><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>M </td><td>4 </td><td>Mick Price & Michael Kent (Jnr) </td><td>3 </td><td>56kg </td><td></td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>4 </td><td>893731x783 </td><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td>H </td><td>4 </td><td>Chris Waller </td><td>4 </td><td>58kg </td><td></td><td>100</td></tr> <tr><td>5 </td><td>121x313111 </td><td>TOO CLOSE THE SUN </td><td>G </td><td>4 </td><td>Lindsey Smith </td><td>5 </td><td>58kg </td><td></td><td>93</td></tr> <tr><td>6 </td><td>72212x7542 </td><td>SOPRESSA </td><td>M </td><td>5 </td><td>Ciaron Maher & David Eustace </td><td>6 </td><td>56.5kg </td><td></td><td>94</td></tr> <tr><td>7 </td><td>8511320334 </td><td>SKELM </td><td>G </td><td>5 </td><td>Terry Kelly </td><td>7 </td><td>58.5kg </td><td></td><td>78</td></tr> <tr><td>8 </td><td>6x95771243 </td><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>G </td><td>5 </td><td>Phillip Stokes </td><td>8 </td><td>58.5kg </td><td></td><td>82</td></tr> <tr><td>9 </td><td>341183x662 </td><td>FANCIFUL TOFF </td><td>G </td><td>5 </td><td>Ciaron Maher & David Eustace </td><td>9 </td><td>58.5kg </td><td></td><td>78</td></tr> <tr><td>10 </td><td>335516x497 </td><td>SURREY THUNDER (FR) </td><td>G </td><td>4 </td><td>Chris Waller </td><td>10 </td><td>58kg </td><td></td><td>86</td></tr> <tr><td>11 </td><td>x846260116 </td><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td>G </td><td>5 </td><td>Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young </td><td>11 </td><td>58.5kg </td><td></td><td>81</td></tr> <tr><td>12 </td><td>x53281x414 </td><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>M </td><td>5 </td><td>Josh Julius </td><td>12 </td><td>56.5kg </td><td></td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>13 </td><td>465x21141 </td><td>DARK ALLEY </td><td>G </td><td>4 </td><td>Paul Preusker </td><td>13 </td><td>58kg </td><td></td><td>73</td></tr> <tr><td>14 </td><td>518x462551 </td><td>STICK ’EM UP </td><td>F </td><td>3 </td><td>John Sargent </td><td>14 </td><td>52kg </td><td></td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>15 </td><td>0x5143424 </td><td>BELLX </td><td>F </td><td>3 </td><td>David & B Hayes & T Dabernig </td><td>15 </td><td>52kg </td><td></td><td>67</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
14th May 2020, 10:46 PM
British Racing is now reckoning on a June 1st restart, following the UK government publishing a provisional timetable for the return of professional sport. That's just 2 weeks later than the best-case scenario they had been hoping for.
Apparently Russian Camelot was booked on a flight to England next week with the Epsom Derby as the target, per reporting in The Age last Sunday. The plan was to run first up over there and then be back again in time for the Australian Spring. British Racing have previously said that precedence will be given to the scheduling of 3yo races and have now announced that the plan is to run the Derby on July 4th (i.e. only 4 weeks later than the original date). Earlier this week the Epsom Council voted to allow the event to be held behind closed doors. It's likely all happening too late for Russian Camelot though. There's no announcement on when foreign raiders can race, for example, but they'll probably follow the lead of the other countries who initially forbade them upon their respective resumptions. Not to mention that there would be a $150k late nomination fee (139 horses remain engaged following the first scratchings deadline).
Trainer Danny O'Brien has claimed the Melbourne Cup "is an obvious race" for Russian Camelot now. He hopes for a weight of 52kg or less and aims for only two more races ahead of the big dance. His futures odds have come into as low as $11 and he is now the favourite with some bookmakers.
The first runner into the Cup though will be the winner of Saturday's Andrew Ramsden. The market currently has it between 4, with the remaining 8 starters at $20 or longer. Race favourite is King of Leogrance @ $2.45. Too Close The Sun is $4.80, Oceanex is $5.50 and Dark Alley is $6.50.
walkermac
19th May 2020, 05:47 PM
Oceanex is the first into the 2020 Melbourne Cup.
Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqPI0WJLsRU
Here are the full results:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Finish</td><td>No.</td><td>Horse</td><td>Trainer</td><td>Jockey</td><td>Margin</td><td>Bar.</td><td>Weight</td><td>Starting Price</td></tr> <tr><td>1</td><td>12</td><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>Mick Price & Michael Kent (Jnr)</td><td>Mark Zahra</td><td></td><td>1</td><td>56kg</td><td>$6.50</td></tr> <tr><td>2</td><td>2</td><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>Danny O'Brien</td><td>Damien Oliver</td><td>0.75L</td><td>5</td><td>58.5kg</td><td>$1.80F</td></tr> <tr><td>3</td><td>11</td><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>Josh Julius</td><td>Billy Egan</td><td>2L</td><td>8</td><td>56.5kg</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>4</td><td>3</td><td>SKELM </td><td>Terry Kelly</td><td>Ben Melham</td><td>2.1L</td><td>4</td><td>58.5kg</td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>5</td><td>9</td><td>DARK ALLEY </td><td>Paul Preusker</td><td>Craig Williams</td><td>2.4L</td><td>6</td><td>58kg</td><td>$14</td></tr> <tr><td>6</td><td>6</td><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td>Chris Waller</td><td>Dwayne Dunn</td><td>5.4L</td><td>3</td><td>58kg</td><td>$17</td></tr> <tr><td>7</td><td>8</td><td>SURREY THUNDER (FR) </td><td>Chris Waller</td><td>Luke Nolen</td><td>5.6L</td><td>9</td><td>58kg</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>8</td><td>5</td><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td>Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young</td><td>Thomas Stockdale (a)</td><td>15.6L</td><td>11</td><td>58.5kg</td><td>$71</td></tr> <tr><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>RUNAWAY </td><td>Gai Waterhouse & Adrian Bott</td><td>Brad Rawiller</td><td>18.85L</td><td>10</td><td>58.5kg</td><td>$51</td></tr> <tr><td>10</td><td>7</td><td>TOO CLOSE THE SUN </td><td>Lindsey Smith</td><td>Declan Bates</td><td>23.85L</td><td>2</td><td>58kg</td><td>$7</td></tr> <tr><td>11</td><td>10</td><td>SOPRESSA </td><td>Ciaron Maher & David Eustace</td><td>Jye McNeil</td><td>58.85L</td><td>7</td><td>56.5kg</td><td>$31</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
15th June 2020, 02:41 AM
The outlook in Ireland is pretty dire with news from the Government and Horse Racing Ireland that June 29th is the intended resumption date.Irish racing followed the lead of the United Kingdom and resumed quicker than initially anticipated. They were back on course on June 8th.
We don't know the race conditions (I guess they were only talking about moving the Spring carnival around just last week) but presuming that there is little change to the qualifying standards from previous years (and that any foreign horses are going to come to the Cup at all) a few notable races have been run overseas:
Friday 5th June
The Coronation Cup (G1) 2400m - https://youtu.be/4j7kND0Y5_w
Ghaiyyath runs a BIG track record in the first Group 1 of British racing following the resumption. This is a serious racehorse, comfortably beating big guns Anthony Van Dyck, Stradivarius and Defoe. Given that it was within the first week of racing's return there was likely some fitness concerns over many starters but the race time cannot be argued with. Ghaiyyath has 7 wins from 10 starts is trained by Charlie Appleby and owned by Godolphin.
Saturday 6th June
Betway Sagaro Stakes (G3) 3200m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1269264515390111746
Nayef Road showed good fight to hold off Mildenberger and Prince Of Arran. The lead bunch put a bit of a break on the rest of the field, which included Withhold (which came out last year, bled in the Geelong Cup and was scratched) and Ispolini (also scratched from the Melbourne Cup - along with Marmelo - when Racing Victoria busted out their new bone scanning machine).
Wednesday 10th June
Prix de Royaumont (G3) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1270717610519216128
Doubt we'll see any of these but Ebaiyra comfortably finished ahead of American Apples and Mozzarella. French racing is now allowing foreign runners.
Friday 12th June
Derby du Languedoc (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1271408154698489856
As above. Small field with Step By Step finishing on top.
Sunday 14th June
Betway Grand Cup Stakes (Listed) 2900m
Unlikely to be back here again but Red Verdon won this race by 2L. He finished 8th in last year's Caulfield Cup and was then scratched from the Melbourne Cup when they found a bone issue. This was his second race back since then and in the first he was a 22L last; it's good he's now shown that he's returned to good order.
Prix Vicomtesse Vigier (G2) 3000m
San Huberto won ahead of Call The Wind, Get Shirty and Called To The Bar. Holdthasigreen was back there too.
Prix De L'Avre (Listed) 2400m
Unlikely to see any of these here.
In Australia there have been a couple of qualifying races since the Andrew Ramsden:
SA Fillies Classic (G3) 2500m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1261516419910365185
Realm Of Flowers and Silent Sovereign put a bit of a gap on the field in the final furlong. Regarding the winning So You Think filly her jockey in this race said: “To what level she can get to during the spring, I’m not sure, she’s probably going to be a lot better this time next year,” Thornton said. “She’s a big, raw, scopey filly that has to fill out a bit more yet but she’s on the up.”
Winter Cup (Listed) 3200m - https://youtu.be/Rvw_DLEuFk4
Small field and a heavy track. Heavy track specialist Wu Gok took it out narrowly ahead of Carzoff and Yulong Prince.
Tattersall's Cup (G3) 2400m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhXam78Voqo
Brimham Rocks won this race 'cause I tipped it the one prior - I mean: now that he's up to his preferred race distance. Looks a decent show in this range on a Good surface but is more of a Country Cups contender than a shot in the big races.
...and that's it for qualifying races in Australia until the end of September!
walkermac
9th July 2020, 01:18 PM
Ghaiyyath runs a BIG track record in the first Group 1 of British racing following the resumption. This is a serious racehorse, comfortably beating big guns Anthony Van Dyck, Stradivarius and Defoe.I don't really follow European racing, aside from an occasional check-in for this thread, but I wished I jumped aboard the Ghaiyyath train. He took out the Coral-Eclipse Stakes earlier this week, beating the equal-best horse in the world Enable by over 2 lengths. Two-time Arc winner Enable was first up after a 9 month break but has a pretty good record in that regard, including taking out this same race last year. I very much doubt we'll see Ghaiyyath out here - even if foreign horses do make it.
The Melbourne Cup race conditions are still not out but there is now a timeline regarding nominations and such:
Nominations close: noon, Thursday 27 August ($1,800)
Late entries close: noon, Thursday 3 September ($5,500)
First declarations: noon, Tuesday 29 September ($2,000)
Second declaration: noon, Tuesday 13 October ($3,000)
Third declaration: 10am, Monday 26 October ($4,000)
Final declaration: 4:30pm, Saturday 31 October ($49,500)
So it'll set you back over $60k to get your horse in the race (so long as it qualifies and makes the final field!). These are the same prices as last year's so it's just as well they haven't reduced the prizemoney (as announced last Tuesday). Presuming the splits are the same, so long as your horse finishes in the top 12 you'll earn at least $75k profit and anywhere up to around $3.7mil (not including trophies).
walkermac
10th July 2020, 01:34 AM
I'm not convinced we'll get huge numbers of overseas runners so this all seems like a bit of a wasted effort, but here are some more results of foreign qualifying races in UK, France and Ireland (compared to the zero qualifying races held in Australia during this period...)
Tuesday 16th June
Ribblesdale Stakes (G2) 2400m - https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popup/VOD/1143456/true?showResult=yes
Race Favourite Frankly Daring took out this race for 3yo fillies, showing some good speed in the final two furlongs to win by 2L.
King Edward VII Stakes (G2) 2400m - https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popup/VOD/1143455?showResult=yes
Great ride by the jockey of Pyledriver @ $19. Found the split and the lead, then was challenged in the final furlong before winning by 2 lengths. One second faster than the fillies race above, held immediately prior.
Wednesday 17th June
Martin Molony Stakes (Listed) 2500m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1273319475148918788
Willie Mullins-trained Oriental Eagle wins by a length at $19.
Thursday 18th June
Ascot Gold Cup (G1) 4000m - https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popup/VOD/1143469?showResult=yes
Wow. Worth watching. Stradivarius makes it 3 in the row, winning by an incredible 10 lengths. Nayef Road and Cross Counter (a further 8L back) took out the minor placings. Prince of Arran and Withhold were also in the field.
Friday 19th June
Hardwicke Stakes (G2) 2400m - https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popup/VOD/1143476?showResult=yes
4yo Mare Fanny Logan at $9.50 took it out, 2L ahead of the rest of the field which included last year's winner Defoe and Anthony Van Dyck. She gave them windburn over the final two furlongs and now has 5 wins from her 9 black-type starts.
Queen's Vase (G2) 2800m - https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer-popup/VOD/1143480?showResult=yes
Santiago strung out the field in this 3yo race whose last few winners have included Hartnell, Stradivarius, Kew Gardens and Dashing Willoughby.
Sunday 21st June
Grand Prix de Lyon (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1274664597782433792
Styledargent wins but I doubt any of these would make the trip here.
Saturday 27th June
Irish Derby (G1) 2400m - https://www.racingtv.com/news/santiago-delivers-more-irish-derby-glory-for-o-brien
Santiago wins in driving rain on a quick back-up. He finished just ahead of his stablemate Tiger Moth, with the pair of them putting 5 lengths on the rest of the field. The first four were trained by Aidan O'Brien. Looks like he's headed to the Irish St Leger from here.
Vintage Crop Stakes (G3) 2800m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0oNJKt0zMw
Twilight Payment led for the duration and showed great toughness to win by 2L. Falcon Eight and Master of Reality were in the field too.
Sunday 28th June
Fred Archer Stakes (Listed) 2400m
Small field ; none of whom we're likely to see here.
Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud (G1) 2400m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4waZeAwxqM
Another small field but featuring some far likelier candidates. Way To Paris won with Nagano Gold (whom I believe was a Czech runner they wanted to bring out here but couldn't make it workable with quarantine) second and Ziyad third. The first 3 were in a blanket finishing, putting on a bit of a gap to the remaining starters, which included Old Persian.
Saturday 4th July
Epsom Oaks (G1) 2400m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utIhKxtcDc
Frankly Darling was back for this 3yo fillies race but finished in third, totally smashed by Love - an Aidan O'Brien horse - who had 9 lengths on the rest of the field. This was run in a race record time, just ahead of Enable's 2017 effort. It was a quite unusual race with two runners putting on a huge gap early, so it's hard to judge whether it was fast entirely through ability or circumstance. Certainly an impressive race and she looked full of running. Could be a star.
Epsom Derby (G1) 2400m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=healH2iS6U0
Gee, Aidan O'Brien has some good 3yos this year... Serpentine was at $26, did all the hard work himself and went on to win this colt's race by 5 lengths. The odds were so long on account of only winning his maiden (3rd career race) the week before. Both Love and Serpentine could be going to the Irish St Leger and/or the Arc.
Sunday 5th July
Henry II Stakes (G3) 3200m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBqvLekCwPs
Dashing Willoughby beats Spanish Mission, the two of them putting on more than 10 lengths on Cross Counter and Withhold, all of it happening in the final 2 furlongs. His trainer Andrew Balding has declared that the Melbourne Cup is his target, reckoning he's done enough as it is to qualify. He's looking for another 2-mile race in England before hopefully making it down here; currently at $26 on sportsbet.
Munster Oaks Stakes (G3) 2400m - https://youtu.be/W1rLdr0bU6M?t=285
Whaddaya know!? Aidan O'Brien wins an Irish race :O Race favourite Snow wins but I'm not sure any of these characters are likely to come.
Tuesday 7th July
Prix de l'Isle Briand (G3) 2400m
Yeah, none of these would come.
walkermac
28th July 2020, 01:30 AM
2020 LEXUS MELBOURNE CUP
(160th of Series)
3200 Metres
TUESDAY 3 NOVEMBER 2020
At FLEMINGTON RACECOURSE, MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA
Prizes
First - $4,400,000 and trophies valued at $200,000, $20,000, $15,000, $7,500 & $7,500 to owner, rider, trainer, strapper and breeder respectively
Second - $1,100,000
Third - $550,000
Fourth - $350,000
Fifth - $230,000
Sixth - $160,000
Seventh - $160,000
Eighth - $160,000
Ninth - $160,000
Tenth - $160,000
Eleventh - $160,000
Twelfth - $160,000
For horses earning prizemoney for being placed 1st – 12th inclusive, respective prizemonies payable shall be distributed as follows:
Owner - 85%; Trainer - 10%; Rider - 5%
Entries
Entries close at 12 NOON on THURSDAY 27 AUGUST 2020. Fee - $1800.
(Late Entries: Any horse not previously entered may be nominated before 12 NOON on THURSDAY 3 SEPTEMBER 2020. Fee - $5,500.)
Handicaps
Handicaps will be declared not later than TUESDAY 8 SEPTEMBER 2020.
Benchmark Weights:
3YO C&G 50.0kg; 3YO Filly 48.5kg
NH 3YO C&G 56.5kg; NH 3YO Filly 55.0kg
4YO E&G 58.0kg; 4YO Mare 56.5kg
5YO+ E&G 59.5kg 5YO+ Mare 58.0kg
Minimum Handicap Weight:
3YO 49.0kg
4YO&Up 50.0kg
There is no maximum weight for this race. Minimum top weight of 58kg at the time of weights being released. There is no minimum top weight after acceptances.
No allowances for apprentices.
Weight Penalties
The Handicapper can determine that, after declaration of weights, a subsequent winner of an internationally recognised Listed, Group or Graded flat race may carry additional weight. (It's only applicable for handicapped races >= 1600m, or non-handicaps >= 2300m).
Declarations of Acceptance
There is now a third declaration ahead of final declarations. It now costs an additional $1,000 all-up, in comparison to last year.
First Declaration: TUESDAY 29 SEPTEMBER (Fee: $2,000)
Second Declaration: TUESDAY 13 OCTOBER (Fee: $3,000)
Third Declaration: MONDAY 26 OCTOBER (Fee: $4,000)
Final Declaration: SATURDAY 31 OCTOBER (Fee: $49,500)
Any horse for which a declaration is not received is removed from the race.
Rider Notification
By 7.00 PM, SATURDAY 31 OCTOBER
Ballot Exemptions
- 2020 VRC The Andrew Ramsden
- 2020 VRC The Bart Cummings
- 2020 VRC Lexus Hotham Stakes
- 2020 MVRC Cox Plate
- 2020 MRC Caulfield Cup
Relevant Race Performances
A) since 1 February 2019 inclusive, won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in an internationally recognised Group or Graded flat race run over 2300 metres or further; OR won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in the Queensland Oaks (2019 - Winning Ways, Dawson Diva, Lady Cuvee; 2020 - Cancelled), or
B) since 1 February 2019 inclusive, was placed 4th or 5th in an internationally recognised Group 1 or Grade 1 flat race run over 2300 metres or further in which horses older than 3 years old could run, OR
C) since 1 February 2019 inclusive, won an internationally recognised Listed flat race run over 2300 metres or further, OR
D) since 1 February 2019 inclusive, won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in the York Ebor (UK; 2019 - Mustajeer, Red Galileo, Desert Skyline; 2020 - TBH 22nd August) or Champions & Chater Cup (HK; 2019 - Exultant, Rise High, Dark Dream; 2020 - Exultant, Chefano, Furore), OR
E) since 1 February 2019 inclusive, won the Northumberland Plate (UK; 2019 - Who Dares Wins; 2020 - Cancelled), Cesarewitch (UK; 2019 - Stratum; 2020 - TBH 10th October), or Queen Mother Memorial Cup (HK; 2019 - Ho Ho Khan; 2020 - Chefano), OR
F) was placed 6th, 7th or 8th in the 2020 MRC Caulfield Cup (17th October), OR
G) was placed 2nd or 3rd in the 2020 MVRC Cox Plate (24th October), OR
H) won the 2020 VRC TAB Turnbull Stakes (3rd October), OR
I) won or was placed 2nd or 3rd in the 2018 Melbourne Cup (Cross Counter, Marmelo, Prince Of Arran), OR
J) won the 2018 Caulfield Cup (Best Solution)
Ballot order will be - asides from those runners who are exempt - in descending weight figure. Those of equal weight will be ordered by aggregate prizemoney received in Relevant Race Performances since 1 February 2019 inclusive.
Progressive order of entry lists will be available on a regular basis from Friday 11 September 2020.
walkermac
9th August 2020, 10:52 PM
Number of qualifying races held in Australia since the last wrap-up: 0
There's been a fair few more overseas; well, in the UK, Ireland and France, anyway. The below might be a bit of a wasted effort on my part as space will be limited on the flight to Australia. Unlike previous years, just the one charter is making the journey, with half of the cargo to be horses making a one-way trip to local stables and the remaining 16 to maintain their international trainer. What sort of contingent can travel with the horse, if any, is the big questions - one trainer has reportedly already pulled the pin; though I'm not sure which one it is. The racing industry is currently lobbying the Government to streamline the process and they're working through the guidelines. It'll also no doubt depend on how things are going with coronavirus at the time.
Thursday, 9th July
Bahrain Trophy Stakes (G3) 2600m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1281220357215698944
Al Aasy snoozes at the rear, then takes the league comfortably in the final furlong of this race for 3yos. Dawn Rising and Al Dabaran round out the places.
Princess of Wales's Tattersalls Stakes (G2) 2400m - https://www.racingtv.com/news/hollie-doyle-strikes-group-two-gold-aboard-dame-malliot
Dame Malliot finishes well ahead of Communique and Desert Encounter. Old Persian isn't having a good season, finishing about 10L back in 6th of the 7. It was one of the slower runnings of recent times but still, only slightly behind that of Fiorente's victory in 2012 - who, of course, would run 2nd to Green Moon in the Melbourne Cup of that year.
Tuesday 14th July
Prix dy Lys (G3) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1283011775986831362
Don't come last in this four-horse field and you've run a qualifying performance for the 2020 Melbourne Cup. Volkan Star, Ketil and Measure Of Time were the lucky non-last placers; though they're not likely to come.
Prix de Malleret (G2) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1283022155475755008
A much more competitive field in the next race: this one had 5 starters. Vaucelles, Oriental Mystique and Mozzarella finish top 3.
Prix Maurice De Nieuil (G2) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1283050387021402113
Red Verdon continues his celebration of returning to full health with another win. Only 4 starters in this race as well, which led to quite a slow pace. A little more quality though with Called To The Bar, San Huberto and Holdthasigreen finishing in that order. Red Verdon trailed the leader the whole way then took the lead in the final 3 furlongs, holding the rest of the field well.
Thursday 16th July
Nijinsky Stakes (Listed) 2400m
Aidan O'Brien's Delphi leads the whole way, eventually wining this 3yo race by 4 lengths. Numen and Aunt Bee take the placings.
Saturday 18th July
Aphrodite Fillies' Stakes (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1284496907541372928
The grey Cabaletta edges out Lady G, both finishing over 2 lengths in front of Makawee. The winner here notably beat Frankly Darling in a maiden race a while back.
Silver Cup Stakes (G3) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1284474513753767936
Eagles By Day showed good speed to hit the front late but didn't seem to want to put Communique away. The pair of them put 3 lengths on Universal Order.
Curragh Cup (G2) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1284516306625204225
Impressive run by Twilight Payment, gapping the field, and winning his second consecutive Curragh Cup. Master Of Reality - his Joseph O'Brien stablemate - was runner-up but 8 lengths adrift. Third place Camphor was another 9 further back. Last year, Twilight Payment followed his Curragh Cup win with a 7th in the G1 Irish St Leger and an 11th in the Melbourne Cup. Lloyd and Nick Williams are in the ownership so it wouldn't be surprising to see both O'Brien runners back for another tilt, space on the single flight coming obliging.
Irish Oaks (G1) 2400m - https://youtu.be/i__6jByL8cg
Even So takes out this 3yo Fillies race. Cayenne Pepper and Passion headed in the final furlong and pushed to the minors.
Tuesday, 21st July
Prix Hubert Baguenault de Puchesse (Listed) - https://twitter.com/i/status/1285576261620858882
Close finish in a race from which we'll get no starters.
Thursday, 23rd July
Prix de Thiberville (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1286259561029140480
Unbeaten filly Valia takes out this race for 3yos, putting nearly 3 lengths on Wonderful Tonight and Padovana. Not at all likely.
Friday, 24th July
Prix Frederic de Lagrange (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1286642602801070081
5 runners in this 3yo race, Paix shows some good speed to pull away at the finish, followed by Mykiss and Control Tower.
Saturday, 25th July
King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes (G1) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1287034600066252805
Only 3 in it, so they all ran a Melbourne Cup Qualifying performance, even though the last placegetter was over 16 lengths behind the winner. That winner was Enable though, so it's not as bad as it sounds. It was a third win in this race for the wonder mare - in her fastest time yet - with Sovereign and Japan the other racers.
Vintage Tipple Stakes (Listed) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1287018660280913920
Fillies' & Mares' race for 3 and 4yos. Kastasa wins, with Nan Yehi second and Traisha third. The three of them put a bit of a gap on the rest of the field.
Tuesday, 28th July
Goodwood Cup (G1) 3200m - https://youtu.be/AK03FwXYTaU
Four straight wins to Stradivarius. Not too shabby... The top 5 in this race all qualified, the others being Nayef Road, Santiago, Eagles By Day, and Euchen Glen. Wouldn't mind Nayef Road out here: led for much of the race and held on well, only headed by a superstar. At least we'd get a genuinely run Cup; unlikely, but his trainer has been out here before.
Thursday, 30th July
Gordon Stakes (G3) 2400m - https://youtu.be/PF2nj6b6dys
Aidan O'Brien wins this race for 3yo with Mogul. Highland Chief and Subjectivist round out the top 3. Nayef Road won this race last year, as did Cross Counter the year before.
Friday, 31st July
Queen's Plate (G3) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1289212984468869120
Pablo Escobarr, Desert Encounter and Le Don De Vie with qualifying runs.
Luth Enchantee Stakes (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1289208073039511554
Pretty tight racing with Liberty London nudging out Edisa and Goderville. Surely not in the running.
Saturday, 1st August
Lillie Langtry Stakes (G2) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1289652128512843777
Enbihaar makes it two wins off this race in a row. A comprehensive winner in this 3-horse race, easily accounting for Cabaletta and Snow.
Chalice Stakes (Listed) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1289567571105087489
Katara wins handily, ahead of Expressionism and Cosmic Princess.
Further Flight Stakes (Listed) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1289576631598641152
A familiar name in Withhold takes out this race comfortably with Dubious Affair and Vivid Diamond beating the only other runner home.
Prix du Carrousel (Listed) 3000m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1289537172576632833
Get Shirty wins with Ashrun and Ghostwatch coming out ahead in a bunch finish for the minors. Ghostwatch was heading out here last year but was injured before boarding the plane, if I recall correctly. Get Shirty is 2 wins from 3 this season and his trainer has expressed an interest in shipping him to Australia for a tilt at the Cup, COVID restrictions obliging. His next race will be the Prix de Kergolay.
Thursday, 6th August
Ballyroan Stakes (G3) 2400m -
Nickajack Cave edges out Fresnel and Mythical.
Saturday, 8th August
Prix Hocquart Longines (G2) 2500m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1292108555626196993
Port Guillaume wins comfortably with Ketil and Pao Alto doing the best in a bunch finished for the minors.
Sunday, 9th August
Prix Michel Houyvet (Listed) 2800m
Just happened. Measure Of Time wins; Zeyrek 2nd and Manoucheer 3rd.
Prix De Reux (G3) 2500m
Runs in a few hours. Soft Light is the favourite with the next 4 all very close to each others' price.
walkermac
12th August 2020, 12:05 AM
Cox Plate nominations came out last week. There hasn't been a huge impact on numbers following COVID. Only five entries less than last year, and the exact same number of Internationals. There wasn't much of a crossover with Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup fields in 2019, but it perhaps give some indication of which overseas trainers are likely to make the journey.
There are plenty of O'Briens among the nominations. Aside from Australia's Danny O'Brien, Aidan O'Brien holds 13 entries, Joseph O'Brien has 8 and Donnacha O'Brien has his first. The other Northern Hemisphere nominees are trained by Roger Charlton, Andrew Balding, Hughie Morrison, Antoine de Watrigant, Francis-Henri Graffard and Willie Mullins. Only local Godolphin runners.
You can see the full list of nominations here: https://www.racingvictoria.com.au/the-sport/racing/victorian-race-program/-/media/6fafac6882694e30a015c3164b77d915.ashx
Former Hungarian galloper Nancho, now with Anthony Cummings, is among them. It looks like he won 8 of his last 9 races in Hungary, then went to Germany for two Group victories (one at G3-level, the other a G1). At 1600m and above he is 12:10-2-0. Currently at $51 for the Cox Plate. He beat a pretty decent horse in that German Group 1 and seems to have a running style that would suit The Valley.... Looks to have a high enough handicap to make the final field (the German horse racing site gives him a 96 on their GAG scale, which I think equates to 112 - at least it does on an old conversion post I found).
First acceptances for the Cox Plate are due 8th September. Current favourite is Russian Camelot.
walkermac
21st August 2020, 10:10 PM
Here's the wrap of qualifying races held in Australia since last post:
...and now that that comprehensive report is over, let's cast our eyes overseas:
Thursday 13th, August
Vinnie Roe Stakes (Listed) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1293993489374552064
3yo filly Pista showed some good end-of-race pace to nab the win from Sun Chart and Dawn Patrol. Won her maiden at her second crack and then straight into this Listed race.
Friday 14th, August
Irish St Leger Trial Stakes (G3) 2800m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYG4A90azis
Is the winner of this race, this year's northern hemisphere 3yo? Delphi leads the whole way, with Master of Reality just falling a nose shy on the line. This is Delphi's 4th straight win this season, following a middling run late last year in his only other career race. The race-time was pretty handy: quicker than any of Order of St George's run of 3-straight victories, and markedly faster than Southern France last year. The St Leger Stakes proper is the next target, held a week before quarantine must begin for any Melbourne Cup aspirants. A lot will become clearer then....
Saturday 15th, August
Geoffrey Freer Stakes (G3) 2660m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ljkhSlEd9o
Spread out at the finish with Hukum staying strongly ahead of Max Vega and Alignak. Hamada won this race a couple of years ago and came out that same season to Australia, where he was a leading contender for the Cup. Unfortunately he broke down at Werribee during his prep. Hukum's trainer has doubts he'd get much further distance, so unlikely.
Sunday, 16th August
Prix Minerve (G3) 2500m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1295016395743338497
Wonderful Only wins by 2 lengths ahead of Valia with Paix a narrow third. Heavy track, but still the slowest race time in the nearly 25 years it's been held over this course/distance.
Tuesday, 18th August
Criterium du Centre (G3) 2400m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1295776027709407232
Harmonie Star beats Harmonie Sainte, daylight 3rd in this 3yo race. The winner looks very decent, but little chance of coming here, you'd think.
Wednesday, 19th August
Great Voltigeur Stakes (G2) 2400m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvZsH3z90Ok
Pyledriver was a big winner (over Highland Chief and Mogul), running on well from the rear and putting some space on the rest.
International Stakes (G1) 3200m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GC8eUdDp2Q
All five of the contesting runners would qualify on the basis of this race. As noted previously, Ghaiyyath is a gun horse - now winning twice since first mentioned in dispatches. It's no secret though, jumping as a $2.30 favourite. Won comfortably by 3 lengths ahead of Magical, Lord North, Kameko, and Rose of Kildare.
Thursday, 20th August
Chester Stakes (Listed) 2900m -
Spanish Mission pulls away late from Selino and Hereby. Newly transferred to trainer Andrew Balding, who has also nominated Kameko for the Cox Plate.
Yorkshire Oaks (G1) 2400m - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poW0kj4ZRho
Love wins by 5 lengths for Aidan O'Brien followed by Alpinista and One Voice. Love is nominated in shorter races next up, so they may think she's beyond her preferred distance range when outside of 3yo company.
Galtres Stakes (Listed) 2400m -
Gold Wand, Vivionn and Award Scheme take out the top 3 placings.
The Ebor Cup is on this Saturday at York. The top 3 will pass the first ballot clause for the Melbourne Cup. Very close at the top of betting with a few runners of potential Australian interest. True Self has already nominated for the Cox Plate, hoping to see similar success as to when he won the Queen Elizabeth Stakes last year. Pondus is a fellow Cox nominee and perhaps Ghostwatch will be aimed at either of our Cups.
UselessBettor
23rd August 2020, 01:23 PM
thanks for doing this research. I like to read it each year.
walkermac
25th August 2020, 09:58 PM
2017 Melbourne Cup winner Rekindling has retired. For a second time. He had returned to Ireland and was showing some promising signs of a return to racing but had an injury. He'll be going to stud; again. ...as will Yucatan
Keeping an eye overseas, there have been some important races this past weekend:
Friday 21st, August
Lonsdale Cup Stakes (G3) 3270m - https://youtu.be/tSc7EuTizMQ
Max Dynamite won this race in 2015, ahead of his 2nd place to Prince of Penzance. This renewal was run in around the same time, though markedly slower than Stradivarius managed the previous two years. It was a pretty tepid pace, perhaps due to Nayef Road rearing at the start and coming out of the gates sideways; he likely would have been leading otherwise. Enbihaar takes out the race with Stratum and Nayef Road filling the minors; Dashing Willoughby was a close fourth placing. Stratum seems to be getting the most buzz of those though, after making a bit of ground in the final scramble to the line. Dashing Willoughby has been a definite attendee for a while now (after being purchased by a NZer with the Cup as a target). Having finished ahead of him, and having a trainer already intending on bringing a runner to Australia (Willie Mullins with True Self), the talk is loud regarding Stratum. Apparently they've since received assurances from handicapper Greg Carpenter that his rating will now have increased enough to pretty much assure a start in the Melbourne and/or Caulfield Cups.
Saturday, 22nd August
Ebor Handicap (Hcp) 2800m - https://youtu.be/bliPPxoMtKQ
True Self didn't do so well in the Ebor Cup, though his connections are convinced it's a forgive-run after snoozing in the barriers. He missed the start badly and eventually finished 16th of the 21 starters. Pondus was another Cox Plate nominee contending and he did even worse, back in second last. At the pointy end was the favourite Fujaira Prince, whose owners have already said he's not of Melbourne Cup standard. Not sure what that says about Glencadam Glory and Verdana Blue, who were next across the line. The race time seems to think 'not much'; it was on Soft, but still one of the slowest runnings in the past 30-odd years.
Sunday, 23rd August
Prix Kergorlay (G2) 3000m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1297545194359926789
Call The Wind put up a very professional performance in his comfortable victory. Ashrun looked good at the death, while Windtoss snuck in for 3rd. Red Verdon didn't take the opportunity to continue his good form, being scratched at the barriers after refusing to load. Two other runners we may see down here participated: the Australian Bloodstock-owned Collide was a big early leader but didn't cause much of a stir in the chasing pack, who swallowed him up early in the straight; OTI's San Huberto has purchased a one-way ticket to Oz, but there wouldn't be much excitement following what he served up in his last place finish here...
Prix De Pomone (G2) 2500m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1297553633295441920
Ebaiyra lead from go to woah, with Spirit of Appin and Grand Glory rounding out the top 3.
Stanerra Stakes (G3) 2800m - https://twitter.com/i/status/1297609565895303170
Similar story for Passion, Traisha and Kastasa.
There's been some Cup-relevant action in Australia with some of the local contenders resuming this past weekend. Verry Elleegant impressed in her win in the 1400m Winx Stakes; she's now 3rd favourite @ $18, behind Russian Camelot @ $11 and Surprise Baby @ $9.
The weather at Moonee Valley wasn't all that impressive, with the latter part of last Saturday's program being cancelled. One of the abandoned races was being used as prep for many Cup aspirants, so it's been rescheduled to this weekend's Caulfield meeting. King of Leogrance (currently 4th favourite at $19) will be back in action here - among others (Young Rascal, Haky, Django Freeman, etc.); his last race was his second placing in the Andrew Ramsden. The winner of that race, Oceanex, will also be resuming on the same program, over a shorter trip of 1400m.
Entries for the Melbourne Cup close this Thursday.
walkermac
29th August 2020, 02:52 AM
The list of Melbourne Cup nominees is out: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-08-27-2020-melbourne-cup-nominations-final
174 horses entered this year, a rise of 22 on last year. 30 internationals have thrown their hat in the ring.
Here are the nominees racing today:
<table><tbody><tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 1 - 11:45AM Neds Same Race Multi Handicap (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 12:55PM Allan & Helen Angus Hcp (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>INVERLOCH (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 4 - 1:30PM MRC Members’ Tipstar Hcp (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 2:10PM Neds Price Boost Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE WINNER (JPN) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 2:10PM Neds Price Boost Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 2:10PM Neds Price Boost Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CAPE OF GOOD HOPE (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DR DRILL (GB) (Late: DRILL (GB))</td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER (Late: TUSKER)</td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 4:10PM Neds Heatherlie Stakes (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ARCADIA QUEEN </td><td></td><td>Caulfield - Race 9 - 4:45PM Magic Millions Memsie Stakes (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FLASH AAH </td><td></td><td>Eagle Farm - Race 6 - 2:42PM BRC MEMBERSHIP RENEWAL BENCHMARK 78 Handicap (2200 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALIFEROUS </td><td></td><td>Eagle Farm - Race 9 - 4:38PM ASCOT GREEN OPEN Handicap (1825 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td></td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 8 - 4:30PM IRON JACK PREMIERS CUP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FRANKELY AWESOME </td><td></td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 8 - 4:30PM IRON JACK PREMIERS CUP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GREY LION (IRE) </td><td></td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 8 - 4:30PM IRON JACK PREMIERS CUP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td></td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 9 - 5:10PM RANVET HANDICAP (1200 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td></td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 9 - 5:10PM RANVET HANDICAP (1200 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td></td><td>Warracknabeal - Race 6 - 3:46PM Bet365 2020 Sheep Hills Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
31st August 2020, 11:51 PM
Results from the last few days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MR QUICKIE </td><td></td><td>2nd of 13</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Good3 MEMSIE Group 1 $752,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIQ6jfU3jEk)</td><td>@ $14</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCESS JENNI (NZ)
</td><td></td><td>8th of 13</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Good3 MEMSIE Group 1 $752,000</td><td>@ $51</td></tr> <tr><td>REGAL POWER </td><td></td><td>12th of 13</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Good3 MEMSIE Group 1 $752,000</td><td>@ $12</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>NONCONFORMIST </td><td></td><td>3rd of 12</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Good4 HCP $125,000</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td></td><td>11th of 12</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Good4 HCP $125,000</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>OUT OF THE PARK (NZ) </td><td></td><td>12th of 13</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Good4 MARES BM90 $125,000</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td></td><td>1st of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuRGTzUwZRI)</td><td>@ $61</td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER
</td><td></td><td>3rd of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DR DRILL (GB)
</td><td></td><td>5th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $9</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td></td><td>7th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $18</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td></td><td>9th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td></td><td>12th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $151</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td></td><td>13th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td>CAPE OF GOOD HOPE (IRE) </td><td></td><td>15th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) </td><td></td><td>16th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Good3 HEATHERLIE HCP Listed $140,500</td><td>@ $41</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td></td><td>1st of 10</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td>ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) </td><td></td><td>2nd of 10</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $3</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td></td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $4.6</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE WINNER (JPN) </td><td></td><td>8th of 10</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td>NORTHWEST PASSAGE </td><td></td><td>10th of 10</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $91</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td></td><td>1st of 5</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $2.3</td></tr> <tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td></td><td>3rd of 5</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TAVIRUN (NZ) </td><td></td><td>4th of 5</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $3.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRIMAR (IRE) </td><td></td><td>5th of 5</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good4 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $11</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALIFEROUS </td><td></td><td>3rd of 12</td><td>E FM</td><td>1825m Good3 HCP $75,000</td><td>@ $4.4</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FLASH AAH </td><td></td><td>4th of 11</td><td>E FM</td><td>2200m Good3 BM78 $75,000</td><td>@ $9.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td></td><td>6th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1200m Good4 BM88 $125,000</td><td>@ $17</td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td></td><td>12th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1200m Good4 BM88 $125,000</td><td>@ $81</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>NIMALEE </td><td></td><td>2nd of 9</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1500m Good4 F&M BM78 $125,000</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SHE'S IDEEL </td><td></td><td>5th of 9</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1500m Good4 F&M BM78 $125,000</td><td>@ $4.2</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td></td><td>1st of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tzz3y0oLg)</td><td>@ $1.9</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td></td><td>7th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>RONDINELLA (NZ) </td><td></td><td>9th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td></td><td>10th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $12</td></tr> <tr><td>GREY LION (IRE) </td><td></td><td>11th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td></td><td>12th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR CHARLES ROAD
</td><td></td><td>13th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>FRANKELY AWESOME </td><td></td><td>14th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good4 PREMIERCUP Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>KORCHO (GB) </td><td></td><td>9th of 13</td><td>RHIL</td><td>2000m Good4 BM78 $125,000</td><td>@ $7</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td></td><td>1st of 6</td><td>WIND</td><td>2303m Soft AUGUST STKS Listed $47,429 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1299705119311892482)</td><td>@ $4</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td></td><td>1st of 12</td><td>WKBL</td><td>2000m Good4 BM78 $27,000</td><td>@ $6.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Monday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SIERRA SUE (NZ) </td><td></td><td>1st of 12</td><td>SALE</td><td>1200m Good4 BM70 $35,000</td><td>@ $2.9</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
31st August 2020, 11:54 PM
A couple of nominees running Tuesday and Wednesday:
Look Sharpish at Benalla on Tuesday in Race 7, currently the $3.30 race favourite
Miyake at Warwick Farm on Wednesday in Race 5, currently 3rd favourite at $4.50
walkermac
2nd September 2020, 04:47 PM
Results
<table><tbody><tr><td>Tuesday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LOOK SHARPISH (NZ) </td><td></td><td>1st of 13</td><td>BLLA</td><td>1606m Good4 BM64 $22,000</td><td>@ $5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIYAKE</td><td></td><td>3rd of 8</td><td>W FM</td><td>1600m Good4 BM72 $49,000</td><td>@ $4.20</td></tr></tbody></table>
Melbourne Cup nominees at non-Metro tracks are now 3w/3, 380% POT.
Who's racing over the next few days?
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ATTENTION RUN (GER) </td><td></td><td>Wyong - Race 7 - 4:35PM 2020 CARLTON DRAUGHT WYONG GOLD CUP (2100 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>BIG DUKE (IRE)</td><td></td><td>Wyong - Race 7 - 4:35PM 2020 CARLTON DRAUGHT WYONG GOLD CUP (2100 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td></td><td>Wyong - Race 7 - 4:35PM 2020 CARLTON DRAUGHT WYONG GOLD CUP (2100 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 5 - 2:35PM ATC FAREWELLS SUBZERO HANDICAP (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 5 - 2:35PM ATC FAREWELLS SUBZERO HANDICAP (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN' </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 5 - 2:35PM ATC FAREWELLS SUBZERO HANDICAP (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 7 - 3:50PM HEINEKEN CHELMSFORD STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 7 - 3:50PM HEINEKEN CHELMSFORD STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 7 - 3:50PM HEINEKEN CHELMSFORD STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 7 - 3:50PM HEINEKEN CHELMSFORD STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 7 - 3:50PM HEINEKEN CHELMSFORD STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>COLETTE </td><td></td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:30PM DRINKWISE TRAMWAY STAKES (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td></td><td>The Valley - Race 1 - 12:30PM Ladbrokes Same Race Multi Handicap (1200 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td></td><td>The Valley - Race 2 - 1:05PM PFD Food Services Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HARBOUR VIEWS (FR)</td><td></td><td>The Valley - Race 8 - 4:45PM Ladbrokes Feehan Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td></td><td>The Valley - Race 9 - 5:20PM Lockdown Legends Handicap (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CREEDENCE </td><td></td><td>The Valley - Race 9 - 5:20PM Lockdown Legends Handicap (2040 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
5th September 2020, 06:56 PM
Results from Cup nominees these past two days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td></td><td>1st of 11</td><td>WYNG</td><td>2100m Good4 WYONG CUP Listed $164,000 (https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/fields-results/results/wyong-cup-results-and-replay-2020/625716)</td><td>@ $13</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td></td><td>3rd of 11</td><td>WYNG</td><td>2100m Good4 WYONG CUP Listed $164,000</td><td>@ $5</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTENTION RUN (GER) </td><td></td><td>5th of 11</td><td>WYNG</td><td>2100m Good4 WYONG CUP Listed $164,000</td><td>@ $8</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td></td><td>10th of 11</td><td>WYNG</td><td>2100m Good4 WYONG CUP Listed $164,000</td><td>@ $15</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td></td><td>9th of 9</td><td>M V</td><td>1200m Good4 F&M BM84 $125,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td></td><td>2nd of 8</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good3 FEEHAN Group 2 $251,500 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1302154912654999552)</td><td>@ $3.3</td></tr> <tr><td>HARBOUR VIEWS (FR)</td><td></td><td>3rd of 8</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good3 FEEHAN Group 2 $251,500</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MAHAMEDEIS </td><td></td><td>6th of 8</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good3 FEEHAN Group 2 $251,500</td><td>@ $10</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td></td><td>6th of 8</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good3 HCP $125,000</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td></td><td>7th of 13</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good4 BM78 $75,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td></td><td>8th of 13</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good4 BM78 $75,000</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td></td><td>2nd of 10</td><td>M V</td><td>2040m Good3 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $15</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td></td><td>6th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td>2040m Good3 HCP $135,000</td><td>@ $41</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>COLETTE </td><td></td><td>10th of 11</td><td>RAND</td><td>1400m Good4 TRAMWAY Group 2 $202,000 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1302133323435634688)</td><td>@ $12</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN' </td><td></td><td>1st of 14</td><td>RAND</td><td>1500m Good4 BM94 $125,000</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td></td><td>2nd of 14</td><td>RAND</td><td>1500m Good4 BM94 $125,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>MASAFF (IRE) </td><td></td><td>8th of 14</td><td>RAND</td><td>1500m Good4 BM94 $125,000</td><td>@ $8</td></tr> <tr><td>KINANE (NZ) </td><td></td><td>10th of 14</td><td>RAND</td><td>1500m Good4 BM94 $125,000</td><td>@ $4.2</td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td></td><td>11th of 14</td><td>RAND</td><td>1500m Good4 BM94 $125,000</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td></td><td>3rd of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1302146426114203649)</td><td>@ $9</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td></td><td>4th of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td></td><td>5th of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000</td><td>@ $5</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td></td><td>7th of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000</td><td>@ $91</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td></td><td>8th of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000</td><td>@ $61</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td></td><td>9th of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000</td><td>@ $6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SENTIMENTAL (NZ)</td><td></td><td>14th of 15</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 CHELMSFORD Group 2 $252,000</td><td>@ $101</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
8th September 2020, 10:54 AM
A few nominees set for starts tomorrow:
<table><tbody><tr><td>FLASH AAH </td><td></td><td>Eagle Farm - Race 3 - 2:18PM XXXX Dry BM78 Handicap (2218 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DON'T DOUBT DORY </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 9 - 5:05PM Ladbrokes Multi Builder Handicap (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 9 - 5:05PM Ladbrokes Multi Builder Handicap (1800 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Melbourne Cup weights should be available in a couple of hours. Cox Plate first acceptances are also due by 12pm.
walkermac
9th September 2020, 01:56 AM
A few nominees set for starts tomorrow.Either I've forgotten how my code works or I got the nominees yesterday midway through them being updated; there's more now:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FLASH AAH </td><td></td><td>Eagle Farm - Race 3 - 2:18PM XXXX Dry BM78 Handicap (2218 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ROYAL CROWN </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 5 - 2:45PM Ladbrokes Same Race Multi Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SAVVY LAD (NZ) </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 5 - 2:45PM Ladbrokes Same Race Multi Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>VOYAGE DE LUNE </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 5 - 2:45PM Ladbrokes Same Race Multi Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DON'T DOUBT DORY </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 9 - 5:05PM Ladbrokes Multi Builder Handicap (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 9 - 5:05PM Ladbrokes Multi Builder Handicap (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td></td><td>Ladbrokes Park Hillside - Race 9 - 5:05PM Ladbrokes Multi Builder Handicap (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Thursday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PELONOMENA </td><td></td><td>Mornington - Race 6 - 4:00PM Neds Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Can Pelonomena keep the run of non-metro winning nominees going? Would be nice at $16... Has won at the grade in the past and been contesting metro races with much higher prizemoney of late, including a trip to Sydney.
walkermac
9th September 2020, 02:23 AM
Weights for the 2020 Melbourne Cup (ordered by handicap rating):
<table><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Weight</td><td>Handicap Rating</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>58.5</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>57</td><td>2.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SOVEREIGN (IRE) </td><td>57</td><td>2.5</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>57</td><td>2.5</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>55</td><td>3</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>3</td></tr> <tr><td>SANTIAGO (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>3</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>56</td><td>3.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TELECASTER (GB) </td><td>56</td><td>3.5</td></tr> <tr><td>REGAL POWER </td><td>55.5</td><td>4</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>55.5</td><td>4</td></tr> <tr><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>55.5</td><td>4</td></tr> <tr><td>PORT GUILLAUME (FR) </td><td>52.5</td><td>4</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>55</td><td>4.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>55</td><td>4.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>55</td><td>4.5</td></tr> <tr><td>STRATUM (GB) </td><td>55</td><td>4.5</td></tr> <tr><td>QUICK THINKER </td><td>53.5</td><td>4.5</td></tr> <tr><td>COLETTE </td><td>52</td><td>4.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>54.5</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>54.5</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>NANCHO (GER) </td><td>54.5</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td>54.5</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>54.5</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>YOUNG RASCAL (FR) </td><td>54.5</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>ARCADIA QUEEN </td><td>53</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>53</td><td>5</td></tr> <tr><td>CAPE OF GOOD HOPE (IRE) </td><td>54</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MR QUICKIE </td><td>54</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PATRICK SARSFIELD (FR) </td><td>54</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>RED VERDON (USA) </td><td>54</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>52.5</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>51</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>51</td><td>5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>CONSTANTINOPLE (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>DANCETERIA (FR) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>NICKAJACK CAVE (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>EAGLES BY DAY (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>SAN HUBERTO (IRE) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>53.5</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SISKA </td><td>52</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>TRUE SELF (IRE) </td><td>52</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>52</td><td>6</td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td>53</td><td>6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>53</td><td>6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>53</td><td>6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SENTIMENTAL (NZ)</td><td>51.5</td><td>6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>51.5</td><td>6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCESS JENNI (NZ)</td><td>51.5</td><td>6.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DR DRILL (GB)</td><td>52.5</td><td>7</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>52.5</td><td>7</td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td>52.5</td><td>7</td></tr> <tr><td>SKYWARD (FR) </td><td>52.5</td><td>7</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>52.5</td><td>7</td></tr> <tr><td>NONCONFORMIST </td><td>51</td><td>7</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>WEEKENDER (GB) </td><td>52</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DELPHI (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FURRION (GB) </td><td>51.5</td><td>8</td></tr> <tr><td>MAHAMEDEIS </td><td>51.5</td><td>8</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td>50</td><td>8</td></tr> <tr><td>RONDINELLA (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>8</td></tr> <tr><td>AKTAU (GB) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BIG DUKE (IRE)</td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>HARBOUR VIEWS (FR)</td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>INVERLOCH (IRE) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PONDUS (GB) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR CHARLES ROAD</td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER TITUS (GB)</td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>WOLFE (JPN) </td><td>51</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ALIFEROUS </td><td>50</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BOLLEVILLE (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FRANKELY AWESOME </td><td>50</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>GLORY DAYS (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>KINANE (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>CREEDENCE </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>GREY LION (IRE) </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>SWEET THOMAS (GER) </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>VIN DE DANCE (NZ) </td><td>50.5</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>CORMORANT (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>DAWN PATROL (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>ENGLISH KING (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>50</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER</td><td>50</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>ROYAL CROWN </td><td>50</td><td>9</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE WINNER (JPN) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ALMANIA (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>AMERICAN WHISKEY (USA) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTENTION RUN (GER) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BARTHOLOMEU DIAS (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>COLLIDE (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>CRACK ON CRACK ON (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DEGRAVES (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>DON'T DOUBT DORY </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FEEL THE RUSH (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FLASH AAH </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>HIGH EMOCEAN (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>IMPACTFUL </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>INVOLVED (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN' </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>KORCHO (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>LATIN BEAT (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>LOOK SHARPISH (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MASAFF (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MILESTONE (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRIMAR (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIYAKE </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MYTHICAL (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>NAVAL WARFARE (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>NIMALEE </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>NOBEL PRIZE (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>NORTHWEST PASSAGE </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ORDER OF AUSTRALIA (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>OUT OF THE PARK (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PELONOMENA </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>REALM OF FLOWERS </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>RIDER IN THE SNOW (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SAUNTER BOY (FR)</td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SAVVY LAD (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SELINO (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SHE'S IDEEL </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SIERRA SUE (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SIN TO WIN (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SKELM </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND OF CANNONS (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUTH PACIFIC (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TAVIRUN (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>THE KING (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>THINK IT OVER </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TINANDALI (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>TORRENS </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>VOYAGE DE LUNE </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>WALL OF FIRE (IRE) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>WYCLIF (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>YONKERS (USA) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ZAMOSA (NZ) </td><td>50</td><td>9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ALCYONE </td><td>49</td><td>9.5</td></tr></tbody></table>
It's not taking into account whether the first ballot clause has been passed, nor the prizemoney attained from eligible races, but it gives you a rough idea of who would be where in an order of entry.
walkermac
9th September 2020, 02:45 AM
Some results from overseas take a little longer to get uploaded. Don't know what the story is with the Toowoomba one, but I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere. It's a shame it didn't show up in the nominations for some reason, else I would have talked myself out of picking it in the tipping comp:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday 4th Sept (pt 2)</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td></td><td>1st of 8</td><td>DRYL</td><td>2816m Soft HER MAJ PLATE Listed $59,942 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1301877920085037057)</td><td>@ $1.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday 5th Sept (pt 2)</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td></td><td>3rd of 6</td><td>K PK</td><td>2413m Synthetic SEPTEMBER STKS Group 3 $104,156 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ruu8Gtklk4)</td><td>@ $17</td></tr> <tr><td>ALMANIA (IRE) </td><td></td><td>4th of 6</td><td>K PK</td><td>2413m Synthetic SEPTEMBER STKS Group 3 $104,156</td><td>@ $51</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ZAMOSA (NZ) </td><td></td><td>1st of 10</td><td>TWBA</td><td>1850m Good4 BM58 $19,000</td><td>@ $4.4</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
11th September 2020, 12:10 AM
First order of entry is here: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-lexus-melbourne-cup-elimination-order-as-at-sept-9-2020
86 horses are yet to pass the first ballot clause (YTPFBC); of those only Arcadia Queen - depending on the prizemoney she wins - would jump directly into the top-24.
Results from nominees the past couple of days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FLASH AAH </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 6</td><td>E FM</td><td>2218m Soft5 BM78 $35,000</td><td>@ $3.9</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DON'T DOUBT DORY </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>3rd of 8</td><td>SANH</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $50,000</td><td>@ $4.6</td></tr> <tr><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>8th of 8</td><td>SANH</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $50,000</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ROYAL CROWN </td><td>76</td><td>3rd of 12</td><td>SANH</td><td>1600m Good4 BM70 $50,000</td><td>@ $10</td></tr> <tr><td>SAVVY LAD (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 12</td><td>SANH</td><td>1600m Good4 BM70 $50,000</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 8</td><td>SANH</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $50,000</td><td>@ $4</td></tr> <tr><td>VOYAGE DE LUNE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>9th of 12</td><td>SANH</td><td>1600m Good4 BM70 $50,000</td><td>@ $12</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Thursday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PELONOMENA </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 10</td><td>MORN</td><td>2000m Good3 F&M BM70 $35,000</td><td>@ $8</td></tr></tbody></table>
Nominees running this weekend:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALIFEROUS </td><td>69</td><td>Doomben - Race 9 - 4:43PM CASCADE OPEN Handicap (2030 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SAUNTER BOY (FR)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>74</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SWEET THOMAS (GER) </td><td>77</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>YOUNG RASCAL (FR) </td><td>27</td><td>Flemington - Race 1 - 12:05PM Very Special Kids Pin and Win Plate (2500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ARCADIA QUEEN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 3 - 1:05PM Furphy Let's Elope Stakes (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AKTAU (GB) </td><td>66</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>65</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>82</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>80</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>1</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>33</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>32</td><td>Flemington - Race 5 - 2:15PM Winning Edge Presentations Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FURRION (GB) </td><td>61</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 2:55PM The Sofitel (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>INVERLOCH (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 2:55PM The Sofitel (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER TITUS (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 2:55PM The Sofitel (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>42</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>29</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCESS JENNI (NZ)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>QUICK THINKER </td><td>16</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>3</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>22</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:35PM PFD Food Services Makybe Diva Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 1 - 12:15PM EVEREST CARNIVAL ON SALE HANDICAP (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>KORCHO (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 1 - 12:15PM EVEREST CARNIVAL ON SALE HANDICAP (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:25PM CLEANAWAY HANDICAP (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SHE'S IDEEL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:25PM CLEANAWAY HANDICAP (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>YONKERS (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:25PM CLEANAWAY HANDICAP (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:25PM CLEANAWAY HANDICAP (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CRACK ON CRACK ON (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 7 - 3:55PM IRON JACK THEO MARKS STAKES (1300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 9 - 5:15PM ROSEHILL BOWLING CLUB HANDICAP (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LOOK SHARPISH (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Cranbourne - Race 6 - 3:40PM TAB Long May We Play BM70 Handicap (2080 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>REALM OF FLOWERS </td><td>81</td><td>Cranbourne - Race 8 - 4:40PM Vale Ray Cleaver BM78 Handicap (1400 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
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walkermac
13th September 2020, 06:48 PM
The overseas results from the weekend are still to come, but here's how our local nominees went:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALIFEROUS </td><td>69</td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>DOOM</td><td>2030m Good4 HCP $75,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 10</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2500m Good4 Qlty $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 10</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2500m Good4 Qlty $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>74</td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2500m Good4 Qlty $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 10</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2500m Good4 Qlty $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td>SAUNTER BOY (FR)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 10</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2500m Good4 Qlty $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td>YOUNG RASCAL (FR) </td><td>27</td><td>8th of 10</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2500m Good4 Qlty $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>82</td><td>10th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>1</td><td>11th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>80</td><td>13th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>33</td><td>1st of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>65</td><td>2nd of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>32</td><td>8th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>AKTAU (GB) </td><td>66</td><td>9th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1700m Good4 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>2nd of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh-J03ZYJKw)</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>42</td><td>4th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>22</td><td>7th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>3</td><td>9th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>11th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCESS JENNI (NZ)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>12th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td>QUICK THINKER </td><td>16</td><td>14th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>29</td><td>15th of 16</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 MAKYBE DIVA Group 1 $752,100</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>INVERLOCH (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1400m Good4 TONTONAN Listed $141,000 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1304646163828584448)</td></tr> <tr><td>FURRION (GB) </td><td>61</td><td>11th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1400m Good4 TONTONAN Listed $141,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ARCADIA QUEEN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 13</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1400m Good4 LETS ELOPE Group 2 $201,700 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1304618291076317185)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td>2400m Soft5 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>KORCHO (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td>2400m Soft5 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>10th of 10</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>SHE'S IDEEL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 10</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>YONKERS (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 10</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1800m Good4 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 12</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1500m Good4 BM78 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CRACK ON CRACK ON (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>11th of 11</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1300m Good4 THEO MARKS Group 2 $202,000 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1304661063045054466)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>REALM OF FLOWERS</td><td>81</td><td>5th of 13</td><td>CRAN</td><td>1400m Soft5 BM78 $50,000</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
15th September 2020, 01:39 AM
Here are the latest overseas results for Cup nominees. Most notably, Tiger Moth earned a 2.5kg penalty for winning the Group 3 Kilternan Stakes (the large penalty on account of it only being his 4th career start). When the updated Order of Entry is released, this should see him move into 12th position. Nominees will have to head into quarantine within the next 48 hours to make the single flight, so we should soon hear who's going to be coming.
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SELINO (GB) </td><td>85</td><td>2nd of 7</td><td>DONC</td><td>3600m Good DONCASTER CUP Group 2 $148,792 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1304424650408177665)</td></tr> <tr><td>EAGLES BY DAY (IRE) </td><td>40</td><td>5th of 7</td><td>DONC</td><td>3600m Good DONCASTER CUP Group 2 $148,792</td></tr> <tr><td>RED VERDON (USA) </td><td>31</td><td>7th of 7</td><td>DONC</td><td>3600m Good DONCASTER CUP Group 2 $148,792</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SANTIAGO (IRE) </td><td>7</td><td>4th of 11</td><td>DONC</td><td>2922m Good ST LEGER Group 1 $650,964 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kTf3XwA7kg)</td></tr> <tr><td>DAWN PATROL (IRE) </td><td>71</td><td>6th of 11</td><td>DONC</td><td>2922m Good ST LEGER Group 1 $650,964</td></tr> <tr><td>MYTHICAL (FR) </td><td>88</td><td>10th of 11</td><td>DONC</td><td>2922m Good ST LEGER Group 1 $650,964</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>12</td><td>1st of 12</td><td>LEOP</td><td>2414m Good KILTERNAN STKS Group 3 $159,847 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1304818311004217345)</td></tr> <tr><td>CORMORANT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 12</td><td>LEOP</td><td>2414m Good KILTERNAN STKS Group 3 $159,847</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>20</td><td>5th of 12</td><td>LEOP</td><td>2414m Good KILTERNAN STKS Group 3 $159,847</td></tr> <tr><td>PATRICK SARSFIELD (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 12</td><td>LEOP</td><td>2414m Good KILTERNAN STKS Group 3 $159,847</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE)</td><td>11</td><td>3rd of 8</td><td>CURR</td><td>2816m Good IRISH ST LEGER Group 1 $754,476 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua4LB0FsZtw)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SOVEREIGN (IRE)</td><td>4</td><td>6th of 8
</td><td>CURR</td><td>2816m Good IRISH ST LEGER Group 1 $754,476</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DEGRAVES (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>10th of 22</td><td>CURR</td><td>2012m Good NORTHFIELDS $235,774 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1305189174966923264)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BOLLEVILLE (IRE)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 11</td><td>CURR</td><td>2012m Good BLANDFORD Group 2 $330,083 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1305204598202937344)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>2</td><td>1st of 6</td><td>LCHP</td><td>2400m Good PRIX FOY Group 2 $143,862 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kQMq0RGyHg)</td></tr> <tr><td>SKYWARD (FR) </td><td>51</td><td>4th of 6</td><td>LCHP</td><td>2400m Good PRIX FOY Group 2 $143,862</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ENGLISH KING (FR) </td><td>76</td><td>6th of 10</td><td>LCHP</td><td>2400m Good G P DE PARIS Group 1 $575,448 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmdLKn5ZcTQ)</td></tr> <tr><td>NOBEL PRIZE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 10</td><td>LCHP</td><td>2400m Good G P DE PARIS Group 1 $575,448</td></tr> <tr><td>PORT GUILLAUME (FR) </td><td>14</td><td>10th of 10</td><td>LCHP</td><td>2400m Good G P DE PARIS Group 1 $575,448</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
15th September 2020, 05:16 PM
New Order of Entry is out: https://www.racingvictoria.com.au/the-sport/racing/victorian-race-program/-/media/0ac08816a14547458d021769c6dd9d76.ashx
Regal Power and Delphi have been withdrawn.
Tiger Moth jumps from 53rd in the order into the #12 spot vacated by Regal Power, following his 2.5kg penalty earned this past weekend.
It looks like Selino may have been omitted by accident from the first Order of Entry out last week, but is only noted in 85th now and unlikely to come into calculations.
In other news coming out:
- Nancho (currently at 25th in the order) has been ruled out. Apparently he jarred up after his trial last month and won't recuperate in time for a Spring challenge. Trainer Anthony Cummings is confident he'll be back - and very competitive - next Autumn.
- Three Irish jockeys have tested positive to coronavirus. This doesn't seem to have affected plans for Irish stable staff coming for the Spring carnival at this stage. Joseph O'Brien's staff, for example, will be flying to Sydney in the next day or two, spending two weeks in hotel quarantine, before road-tripping to Melbourne ahead of their charges' arrival on October 2nd.
- Aidan O'Brien has reported that Cup topweight Anthony Van Dyck<sup>2</sup>, along with fellow nominees Tiger Moth<sup>12</sup> and Santiago<sup>7</sup>, have entered quarantine; not locked in that they're coming yet, but that's obviously the first step in the process as they keep their options open.
- Williams Racing/Joseph O'Brien have said that Master of Reality<sup>9</sup>, Twilight Payment<sup>11</sup>, Buckhurst<sup>20</sup> and Pondus<sup>69</sup> are coming. Patrick Sarsfield is another he's reportedly thinking of bringing, but he's yet to pass the first ballot clause.
evajb001
15th September 2020, 05:30 PM
Had placed two 4 leg multi's using a $30 bonus bets that had basically already hit the first 3 legs on some AFL/NRL matches worth $20k and $13k respectively. Unfortunately the $20k one was for Nancho in the cup who is now ruled out and the other was for Port Guillaume who had a pretty poor showing on the weekend but sounds like he had some excuses.
Looking at the order of entry it appears there's a few at the top end that can get eliminated pretty quickly due to weight, age, gender and having competed in the cup previously. Any preliminary ones towards the top of the order of entry you like walkermac based on some of the elimination criteria or too early to throw some names up?
walkermac
16th September 2020, 12:08 PM
Any preliminary ones towards the top of the order of entry you like walkermac based on some of the elimination criteria or too early to throw some names up?Unfortunately I haven't been able to steer my procrastination in a Cup-wardly direction yet. If I hadn't been able to re-use the code I wrote last year, I would barely have made any posts in this thread.
Speaking of, here are some nominees racing the next couple of days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Bendigo - Race 2 - 1:35PM TAC Be Races Ready BM78 Handicap (2200 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LOOK SHARPISH (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Bendigo - Race 4 - 2:45PM Adroit Insurance Fillies and Mares BM70 Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>IMPACTFUL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Warwick Farm - Race 3 - 2:35PM IRON JACK HANDICAP (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AMERICAN WHISKEY (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Warwick Farm - Race 7 - 4:55PM ANZ BLOODSTOCK NEWS HANDICAP (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Thursday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LATIN BEAT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>bet365 Echuca - Race 5 - 3:30PM In Loving Memory of Mikaela Claridge BM64 Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
18th September 2020, 02:47 PM
Results from Cup nominees the past two days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 9</td><td>BDGO</td><td>2200m Good4 BM78 $50,000</td><td>@ $4.2</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LOOK SHARPISH (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 11</td><td>BDGO</td><td>1600m Good4 F&M BM70 $50,000</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AMERICAN WHISKEY (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 14</td><td>W FM</td><td>1400m Good3 BM72 $50,000</td><td>@ $11</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>IMPACTFUL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>8th of 8</td><td>W FM</td><td>1600m Good3 BM72 $50,000</td><td>@ $6.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Thursday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LATIN BEAT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 10</td><td>ECHA</td><td>1600m Good4 BM64 $35,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>
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Nominees racing today and tomorrow:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN' </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Newcastle - Race 5 - 4:05PM AUSTRALIAN BLOODSTOCK CAMERON HANDICAP (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALIFEROUS </td><td>67</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTENTION RUN (GER) </td><td>83</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>53</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>BIG DUKE (IRE)</td><td>61</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GREY LION (IRE) </td><td>73</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>50</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>44</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td>70</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR CHARLES ROAD</td><td>66</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SWEET THOMAS (GER) </td><td>75</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Newcastle - Race 6 - 4:40PM SHARP ELECTRONICS GROUP NEWCASTLE GOLD CUP (2300 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SISKA </td><td>43</td><td>Newcastle - Race 7 - 5:20PM YARRAMAN PARK TIBBIE STAKES (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 2:55PM PFD Food Services for NJT Hcp (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>OUT OF THE PARK (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 2:55PM PFD Food Services for NJT Hcp (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SIERRA SUE (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 2:55PM PFD Food Services for NJT Hcp (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CAPE OF GOOD HOPE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>77</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td>87</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DR DRILL (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>62</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>57</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>KINANE (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MAHAMEDEIS </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>17</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>49</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>THE KING (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 7 - 4:15PM Catanach's Jewellers MRC Foundation Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 3 - 1:25PM SHOOT OUT MILE (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>NIMALEE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 3 - 1:25PM SHOOT OUT MILE (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>THINK IT OVER </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 3 - 1:25PM SHOOT OUT MILE (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td>82</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 5 - 2:40PM BILL RITCHIE HANDICAP (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 6 - 3:15PM FUJITSU GEORGE MAIN STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>COLETTE </td><td>19</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 6 - 3:15PM FUJITSU GEORGE MAIN STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 6 - 3:15PM FUJITSU GEORGE MAIN STAKES (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td>45</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>55</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>54</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MASAFF (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SENTIMENTAL (NZ)</td><td>47</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>15</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RONDINELLA (NZ) </td><td>58</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>38</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:35PM SCHWEPPES KINGSTON TOWN STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
19th September 2020, 11:37 PM
Today's results:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpVv5UCWYwY)</td><td>@ $2.9</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>77</td><td>2nd of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>49</td><td>3rd of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $11</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $10</td></tr> <tr><td>MAHAMEDEIS </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>8th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $13</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>62</td><td>10th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $61</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>11th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $91</td></tr> <tr><td>THE KING (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>14th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>57</td><td>15th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $71</td></tr> <tr><td>DR DRILL (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>16th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good3 NATURALISM Group 3 $160,750</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td>82</td><td>4th of 9</td><td>RAND</td><td>1400m Good4 RITCHIE Group 3 $161,600 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-djVHgTQlOA)</td><td>@ $81</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>THINK IT OVER </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 12</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 BM88 $125,000</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 12</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 BM88 $125,000</td><td>@ $13</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>4th of 7</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 GEO MAIN Group 1 $505,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iDJ6tlmX0U)</td><td>@ $2.2</td></tr> <tr><td>COLETTE </td><td>19</td><td>5th of 7</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 GEO MAIN Group 1 $505,000</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>6th of 7</td><td>RAND</td><td>1600m Good4 GEO MAIN Group 1 $505,000</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY1t4OJ5Cxg)</td><td>@ $4.2</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>55</td><td>3rd of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $17</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>38</td><td>4th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>RONDINELLA (NZ) </td><td>58</td><td>5th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $9</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>54</td><td>8th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $41</td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td>45</td><td>9th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $14</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR CHARLES ROAD</td><td>66</td><td>11th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>KINANE (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>13th of 16</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $11</td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SENTIMENTAL (NZ)</td><td>47</td><td>13th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $151</td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td>87</td><td>14th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $71</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>15</td><td>15th of 16</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 KING TOWN Group 3 $161,000</td><td>@ $18</td></tr></tbody></table>
No nominees running tomorrow.
walkermac
23rd September 2020, 09:39 AM
Nominees racing the next couple of days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>NIMALEE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Canterbury Park - Race 1 - 1:25PM ANZ BLOODSTOCK NEWS HANDICAP (1550 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIYAKE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Canterbury Park - Race 3 - 2:35PM BOWERMANS COMMERCIAL FURNITURE HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 4:30PM Henley Homes APC Handicap (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Thursday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>TORRENS </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Lismore - Race 6 - 4:05PM LISMORE WORKERS SPORTS CLUB ROUSILLON SHOWCASE HANDICAP (1526 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
24th September 2020, 10:57 PM
Results of Cup nominees these past two days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIYAKE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 7</td><td>CANT</td><td>1900m Good4 BM72 $50,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>NIMALEE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>2nd of 6</td><td>CANT</td><td>1550m Good4 F&M BM78 $50,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 14</td><td>FLEM</td><td>1600m Good4 BM78 $50,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Thursday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>TORRENS </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>10th of 11</td><td>LISM</td><td>1526m Good3 ROUSILLON BM87 $50,000</td></tr></tbody></table>
Nominees running this weekend:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALCYONE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 4 - 6:45PM E.J. Whitten Time to Test Stutt Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>29</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>17</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>46</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>QUICK THINKER </td><td>16</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ROYAL CROWN </td><td>74</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>TAVIRUN (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>VIN DE DANCE (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 6 - 7:45PM Ladbrokes JRA Cup (2040 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 8 - 8:45PM Four’N Twenty Stocks Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCESS JENNI (NZ)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>The Valley - Race 8 - 8:45PM Four’N Twenty Stocks Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>REALM OF FLOWERS </td><td>79</td><td>The Valley - Race 8 - 8:45PM Four’N Twenty Stocks Stakes (1600 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DON'T DOUBT DORY </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>80</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>78</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SIN TO WIN (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>WYCLIF (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 1:55PM Peter Comley Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER TITUS (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 3:10PM Here For The Horses Handicap (1400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ARCADIA QUEEN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 5:05PM Hyland Race Colours Underwood Stakes (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HARBOUR VIEWS (FR)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 5:05PM Hyland Race Colours Underwood Stakes (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MR QUICKIE </td><td>30</td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 5:05PM Hyland Race Colours Underwood Stakes (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 5:05PM Hyland Race Colours Underwood Stakes (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>33</td><td>Caulfield - Race 8 - 5:05PM Hyland Race Colours Underwood Stakes (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FURRION (GB) </td><td>59</td><td>Caulfield - Race 9 - 5:45PM Evergreen Turf Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 9 - 5:45PM Evergreen Turf Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>INVERLOCH (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 9 - 5:45PM Evergreen Turf Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>NONCONFORMIST </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 9 - 5:45PM Evergreen Turf Handicap (1700 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE WINNER (JPN) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Coleraine - Race 8 - 4:46PM bet365 Top Tote Plus Coleraine Cup (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Coleraine - Race 8 - 4:46PM bet365 Top Tote Plus Coleraine Cup (1800 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 2 - 1:05PM JRA COLIN STEPHEN QUALITY (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td>87</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 2 - 1:05PM JRA COLIN STEPHEN QUALITY (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 2 - 1:05PM JRA COLIN STEPHEN QUALITY (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GREY LION (IRE) </td><td>73</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 2 - 1:05PM JRA COLIN STEPHEN QUALITY (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>37</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 2 - 1:05PM JRA COLIN STEPHEN QUALITY (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 2 - 1:05PM JRA COLIN STEPHEN QUALITY (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td>83</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:40PM RANVET HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:40PM RANVET HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:40PM RANVET HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MASAFF (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:40PM RANVET HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SHE'S IDEEL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:40PM RANVET HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>YONKERS (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 3 - 1:40PM RANVET HANDICAP (1900 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CRACK ON CRACK ON (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 6 - 3:30PM IRON JACK SHANNON STAKES (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN' </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 6 - 3:30PM IRON JACK SHANNON STAKES (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SISKA </td><td>44</td><td>Rosehill Gardens - Race 6 - 3:30PM IRON JACK SHANNON STAKES (1500 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>HIGH EMOCEAN (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Mornington - Race 6 - 4:15PM R.M. Ansett Classic (2415 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>NAVAL WARFARE (IRE) </td><td>86</td><td>Mornington - Race 6 - 4:15PM R.M. Ansett Classic (2415 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PELONOMENA </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Mornington - Race 6 - 4:15PM R.M. Ansett Classic (2415 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
There are finally some qualifying races in Australia!
Rosehill Race 2 on Saturday is a Group 3. Mornington Race 6 on the Sunday is Listed. Finish in the top 3 and you have yourself a qualifying performance. (All finishers can also earn a weight penalty and add prizemoney to their totals).
walkermac
28th September 2020, 01:59 PM
The Order of Entry position noted is from last week, in the new Order a couple more have passed the first ballot clause:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 10</td><td>M V</td><td>2040m Soft5 JRA CUP Group 3 $201,500 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkjn6If15k4)</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>17</td><td>4th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>QUICK THINKER </td><td>16</td><td>5th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>29</td><td>6th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ROYAL CROWN </td><td>74</td><td>8th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>46</td><td>9th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>VIN DE DANCE (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>10th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ALCYONE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 7</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Soft5 STUTT STK Group 2 $201,500 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1309415354913914881)</td></tr> <tr><td>
PRINCESS JENNI (NZ)</td><td>
YTPFBC</td><td>
5th of 11</td><td>
M V</td><td><table width="438" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><colgroup><col width="438"></colgroup><tbody><tr height="20"> <td style="height:15.0pt;width:329pt" width="438" height="20">
1600m Soft5 STOCKS Group 2 $201,500 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1309445503378165760)</td> </tr></tbody></table></td></tr> <tr><td>BENITOITE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 11</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>REALM OF FLOWERS </td><td>79</td><td>8th of 11</td><td>M V</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 15</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Soft6 BM84 $135,000</td></tr> <tr><td>SIN TO WIN (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 15</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DON'T DOUBT DORY </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 15</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>80</td><td>6th of 15</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>78</td><td>8th of 15</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>WYCLIF (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>12th of 15</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>1st of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1800m Soft6 UNDERWOOD Group 1 $752,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0szM4oNHjhA)</td></tr> <tr><td>ARCADIA QUEEN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>3rd of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>HARBOUR VIEWS (FR)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MR QUICKIE </td><td>30</td><td>7th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>33</td><td>8th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 14</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1700m Soft6 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>NONCONFORMIST </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 14</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FURRION (GB) </td><td>59</td><td>10th of 14</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>INVERLOCH (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>14th of 14</td><td>CAUL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER TITUS (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>9th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>1400m Soft6 HCP $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE WINNER (JPN) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 10</td><td>COLR</td><td>1800m Soft6 COLR CUP $45,000</td></tr> <tr><td>JACK REGAN (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 10</td><td>COLR</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>PFBC</td><td>1st of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td>2400m Good3 CSTEPHEN Group 3 $161,000 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1309692054180491265)</td></tr> <tr><td>DJUKON (GB) </td><td>87</td><td>2nd of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GREY LION (IRE) </td><td>73</td><td>3rd of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>EXEMPLAR (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 7</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1900m Good3 BM88 $125,000</td></tr> <tr><td>FUN FACT </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>3rd of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MASAFF (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>YONKERS (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SHE'S IDEEL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 14</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MISS SISKA </td><td>44</td><td>7th of 12</td><td>RHIL</td><td>1500m Good3 SHANNON Group 2 $202,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5B5Ai2K5c)</td></tr> <tr><td>CRACK ON CRACK ON (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>12th of 12</td><td>RHIL</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>HIGH EMOCEAN (NZ) </td><td>PFBC</td><td>1st of 10</td><td>MORN</td><td>2415m Heavy8 H WHITE Listed $140,000 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1310101872145883136)</td></tr> <tr><td>TAVIRUN (NZ) </td><td>PFBC</td><td>2nd of 10</td><td>MORN</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>NAVAL WARFARE (IRE) </td><td>86</td><td>4th of 10</td><td>MORN</td></tr></tbody></table>
UselessBettor
29th September 2020, 10:16 PM
Any thoughts on how the early markets are being impacted by covid for the race? Are the visitors overpriced because of it on the anticipation they wont get here? Or are they underpriced because that hasn't been factored in?
Interested to hear your thoughts as this throws in another angle this year to disrupt the usual form lines.
walkermac
2nd October 2020, 10:05 PM
Any thoughts on how the early markets are being impacted by covid for the race? Are the visitors overpriced because of it on the anticipation they wont get here? Or are they underpriced because that hasn't been factored in?
Interested to hear your thoughts as this throws in another angle this year to disrupt the usual form lines.I don't think the markets have been impacted all that much. Perhaps very early on in the piece when speculation was at its highest, but racing has been the most aggressive sport in persisting during the lockdowns and I think there was confidence all along - well, since Northern Hemisphere racing returned anyway - that the visitors were coming. There's a little of hindsight talking on my part, but I think it was mostly wishful thinking that we'd get a race full of locals.
There may be a bit of impact by the shortened Northern Hemisphere season (e.g. Master Of Reality is one run down on last season and the runs he did have were with a shorter recovery between) but how that would impact the odds would be an individual matter. What will probably happen is that there will be more visitors having a run in Australia this year. The first and only flight arrived nearly 2 weeks earlier than the final flight in 2019. They'll have an extra 2 and a bit weeks before the Cup once they're out of quarantine (on Caulfield Cup Day).
The flight should be arriving in Melbourne right now. On board are: Anthony Van Dyck, Santiago, Prince of Arran, True Self, Buckhurst, Twilight Payment, Master of Reality, Tiger Moth, Stratum, and another 20 more; I can't spy a complete list anywhere.
walkermac
2nd October 2020, 10:31 PM
First acceptances were out for the Cup earlier this week. 79 nominees withdrew, leaving 94 in the running.
You can see he updated Order of Entry here: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-09-29-melbourne-cup-elimination-oder-as-as-sept-29-2020.pdf?la=en. Second acceptances are due October 13th.
One nominee ran tonight at Moonee Valley:
<table><tbody><tr><td>FEEL THE RUSH (NZ) </td><td>66</td><td>10th of 10</td><td>M V</td><td>1600m Good PINK LADY HCP $50,000</td></tr></tbody></table>
Tomorrow a ballot exemption is up for grabs in the Bart Cummings. The other placegetters will pass the first ballot clause (if they haven't already), as will the top 5 finishers in the Metropolitan.
Here are all the nominees in action:
<table><tbody><tr><td>YOUNG RASCAL (FR) </td><td>22</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>38</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>45</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>46</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>54</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>61</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CREEDENCE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>KINANE (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUTH PACIFIC (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL
</td><td>YTPFBC
</td><td>Flemington - Race 6 - 3:05PM The Bart Cummings (2510 METRES)
</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>1</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>3</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>18</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>19</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>25</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>27</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>34</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>49</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>AKTAU (GB)
</td><td>50
</td><td>Flemington - Race 7 - 3:45PM TAB Turnbull Stakes (2000 METRES)
</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR)
</td><td>YTPFBC
</td><td>Murtoa - Race 6 - 4:01PM Ecycle Solutions Murtoa Cup (2050 METRES)
</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>4</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>5</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>21</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR CHARLES ROAD</td><td>51</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td>65</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DANCETERIA (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN'
</td><td>YTPFBC
</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:10PM QUINCY SELTZER HILL STAKES (2000 METRES)
</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>13</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>14</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>23</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>29</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>30</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>32</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td>35</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>39</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>42</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>43</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>44</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RONDINELLA (NZ) </td><td>47</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td>53</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTENTION RUN (GER) </td><td>63</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 8 - 4:45PM HEINEKEN METROPOLITAN [GROUP 1] (2400 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
3rd October 2020, 09:02 PM
Persan, who prior to today was yet pass the first ballot clause, wins the Bart Cummings and earns ballot exemption.
<table><tbody><tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>1=</td><td>1st of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2510m Good3 BART CUMMINGS Group 3 $501,300 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxL8euXfBqk)</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>46</td><td>2nd of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>39</td><td>3rd of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>55</td><td>4th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CREEDENCE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>8th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SUPER GIRL </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>9th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GOOD IDEA </td><td>62</td><td>10th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>47</td><td>11th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SOUTH PACIFIC (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>12th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GAME KEEPER</td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>14th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>YOUNG RASCAL (FR) </td><td>23</td><td>15th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>1st of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td>2000m Good3 TURNBULL Group 1 $502,100 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIoCK6NRd9s)</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>26</td><td>2nd of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>22</td><td>3rd of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>35</td><td>5th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>19</td><td>6th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>20</td><td>9th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>50</td><td>11th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>4</td><td>12th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>28</td><td>13th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>1=</td><td>14th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AKTAU (GB) </td><td>51</td><td>15th of 15</td><td>FLEM</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BARADE (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>MURT</td><td>2050m Good4 MURTOA CUP $45,000</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>15</td><td>1st of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td>2400m Good4 THE METROP Group 1 $755,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCTEGvFjm58)</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>33</td><td>2nd of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ANGEL OF TRUTH </td><td>36</td><td>3rd of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>40</td><td>4th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>PFBC</td><td>5th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>31</td><td>6th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>45</td><td>8th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>14</td><td>9th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>RONDINELLA (NZ) </td><td>48</td><td>10th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>44</td><td>11th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>24</td><td>13th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>43</td><td>14th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SIR CHARLES ROAD</td><td>52</td><td>15th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>NORWAY (IRE) </td><td>54</td><td>16th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ATTENTION RUN (GER) </td><td>64</td><td>18th of 18</td><td>RAND</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>2nd of 8</td><td>RAND</td><td>2000m Good4 HILL STKS Group 2 $502,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmW5x3wigNU)</td></tr> <tr><td>DADOOZDART (GB) </td><td>66</td><td>4th of 8</td><td>RAND</td><td>
</td></tr> <tr><td>JUST THINKIN' </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>7th of 8</td><td>RAND</td><td>
</td></tr> <tr><td>DANCETERIA (FR) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>8th of 8</td><td>RAND</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
9th October 2020, 12:31 AM
Here's the latest Order of Entry: https://www.racingvictoria.com.au/the-sport/racing/victorian-race-program/-/media/df8e0167be02468d9e6339236d869bf3.ashx
And here are the nominees that are running across the weekend:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Port Macquarie - Race 7 - 5:10PM 2020 CARLTON DRAUGHT PORT MACQUARIE CUP (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>58</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>49</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>25</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>37</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>31</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>27</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>32</td><td>Caulfield - Race 10 - 5:45PM Neds Herbert Power Stakes (2400 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 6 - 3:10PM Neds Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>Caulfield - Race 6 - 3:10PM Neds Stakes (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ZACADA (NZ) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Royal Randwick - Race 4 - 2:55PM TRESEMME HANDICAP (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Cranbourne - Race 8 - 4:50PM TAB Cranbourne Cup (2025 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>60=</td><td>Cranbourne - Race 8 - 4:50PM TAB Cranbourne Cup (2025 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
Could be the last shot for some of these: second declarations are due on Tuesday.
walkermac
13th October 2020, 12:29 AM
Last few days of results from nominees:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 10</td><td>P MQ</td><td>2000m Good3 PMAC CUP $203,500</td><td>@ $1.5</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Saturday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>45</td><td>1st of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEP8EZ6kNAU)</td><td>@ $4.6</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>32</td><td>2nd of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $9</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>37</td><td>3rd of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>50</td><td>4th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $13</td></tr> <tr><td>IN GOOD HEALTH </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>5th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>25</td><td>6th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>27</td><td>7th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $11</td></tr> <tr><td>ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>9th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2400m Good3 HERBERT POWER Group 2 $301,000</td><td>@ $2.6</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>2nd of 6</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 CAULFIELD STKS Group 1 $1,002,750 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugSh8OeAZF8)</td><td>@ $1.4</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 6</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 CAULFIELD STKS Group 1 $1,002,750</td><td>@ $41</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Sunday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>1st of 15</td><td>CRAN</td><td>2025m Good3 CRAN CUP Listed $400,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvMRMkTCJ6w)</td><td>@ $15</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>60=</td><td>12th of 15</td><td>CRAN</td><td>2025m Good3 CRAN CUP Listed $400,000</td><td>@ $21</td></tr></tbody></table>
Second declarations are due noon Tuesday, 13th October.
walkermac
13th October 2020, 04:17 PM
Second acceptances announced this afternoon: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-melbourne-cup-2nd-acceptances
The 29 contenders who have dropped out of the running are:
ALMANIA (IRE)
AMERICAN WHISKEY (USA)
ANGEL OF TRUTH
ATTENTION RUN (GER)
BARADE (FR)
CREEDENCE
DADOOZDART (GB)
DANCETERIA (FR)
DJUKON (GB)
FEEL THE RUSH (NZ)
GAME KEEPER
GOOD IDEA
HIGH EMOCEAN (NZ)
IN GOOD HEALTH
INVOLVED (GB)
JUST THINKIN'
KINANE (NZ)
NORWAY (IRE)
ORDEROFTHEGARTER (IRE)
PORT GUILLAUME (FR)
RONDINELLA (NZ)
ROYAL CROWN
SIR CHARLES ROAD
SOUTH PACIFIC (GB)
SUPER GIRL
SWEET THOMAS (GER)
YOUNG RASCAL (FR)
ZACADA (NZ)
ZAMOSA (NZ)
Here is the order of entry of the remainders: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-lexus-melbourne-cup-elimination-order-as-at-oct-13-2020
Third acceptances close Monday, 26th October at 12pm.
A few of the nominees are racing at Caulfield tomorrow:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 2 - 2:00PM Neds Coongy Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>47</td><td>Caulfield - Race 2 - 2:00PM Neds Coongy Cup (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 3 - 2:35PM BECK Probuild Handicap (2000 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 3:45PM Hyland Race Colours Handicap (2407 METRES)</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>Caulfield - Race 5 - 3:45PM Hyland Race Colours Handicap (2407 METRES)</td></tr></tbody></table>
evajb001
14th October 2020, 04:19 PM
walkermac, based on the usual stats around weight, females, age plus removing 1 or 2 horses i don't really like or think are underpriced I can only see that there are a few left over who are under current odds of about $41 and are very likely to get a start unless they pull out.
These would be:
Santiago
Tiger Moth
Warning
Toffee Tongue
I'm not a fan of russian camelot (think hes overhyped and thus odds are too low), also not a big fan of returning runners being a year older and up in weight winning it 2nd time around (although often can place). Therefore the list above seems like a bit of an early shortlist to me but was wondering what your or others thoughts were? Unfortunately the two I had some all-in futures multi's on are both now out (Nancho and Port Guillaume).
walkermac
16th October 2020, 06:46 PM
walkermac, ....was wondering what your or others thoughts were?Honestly, I've spent no time looking at the race beyond what was necessary to collate these posts. Bit of a letdown from previous years, but I've been caught up with other stuff unfortunately. Last year's race sucking so hard hasn't helped my enthusiasm either! ;)
Results from nominees the past couple of days:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Wednesday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>4th of 9</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 BM78 $135,000</td><td>@ $2.80</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>47</td><td>5th of 8</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 COONGY Group 3 $200,750</td><td>@ $4.20</td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 8</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2000m Good4 COONGY Group 3 $200,750</td><td>@ $4</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>6th of 12</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2407m Good4 BM84 $135,000</td><td>@ $2.05</td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>12th of 12</td><td>CAUL</td><td>2407m Good4 BM84 $135,000</td><td>@ $4</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>Friday</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>52</td><td>8th of 9</td><td>MOE</td><td>2050m Soft7 Moe Cup $130,000</td><td>@ $8.50</td></tr></tbody></table>
I think we can safely forget those....
Nominees racing this weekend:
<table><tbody><tr><td>Caulfield - Race 9 - 5:15PM Stella Artois Caulfield Cup (2400 METRES)</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>1=</td><td>$201.00</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>3</td><td>$7.00</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>4</td><td>$34.00</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>$31.00</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>$5.00</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>13</td><td>$101.00</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>14</td><td>$21.00</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>16</td><td>$11.00</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td>17</td><td>$18.00</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>18</td><td>$21.00</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>20</td><td>$31.00</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>21</td><td>$12.00</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>24</td><td>$16.00</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>25</td><td>$101.00</td></tr> <tr><td>TRUE SELF (IRE) </td><td>27</td><td>$35.00</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>29</td><td>$201.00</td></tr> <tr><td>SAN HUBERTO (IRE) </td><td>31</td><td>$91.00</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>33</td><td>$7.50</td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td>39</td><td>$67.00</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>42</td><td>$21.00</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td> </td></tr> <tr><td>Royal Randwick - Race 9 - 5:30PM BENTLEY ST LEGER STAKES (2600 METRES)</td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>41</td><td>$26.00</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>44</td><td>$4.20</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>51</td><td>$3.60</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>52=</td><td>$5.50</td></tr></tbody></table>
UselessBettor
18th October 2020, 09:28 PM
Its good to see all this leading up to the race but I'll just be going back to the table that marks all the negatives and go with horses with the least negatives.
I assume you will be putting that table together again after next weekends races ?
ie http://www.ozmium.com.au/forums/showpost.php?p=378243&postcount=123
walkermac
19th October 2020, 12:22 AM
Its good to see all this leading up to the race but I'll just be going back to the table that marks all the negatives and go with horses with the least negatives.Check it out:
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Order</td><td>Total</td><td>Less than 8yo</td><td>Wgt < 57kg</td><td>Not a mare</td><td><= $21 SP</td><td>< $16 in last</td><td>Wgtd < than in last</td><td>FS in last >= 10</td><td>Won Black Type</td><td><=3L in last</td><td><6 victories</td></tr> <tr><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>10</td><td>11</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>7</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>18</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>20</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>34</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>36</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>51=</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>58=</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>1=</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>27</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SAN HUBERTO (IRE) </td><td>30</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>NICKAJACK CAVE (IRE) </td><td>31</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>35</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td>38</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>43</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>PONDUS (GB) </td><td>48</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>49</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>57</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>60=</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>11</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>15</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>29</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>32</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>33</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SKYWARD (FR) </td><td>37</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)
</td><td>39</td><td>8</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>DJANGO FREEMAN (GER) </td><td>46</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SELINO (GB) </td><td>54</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td>60=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>60=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>60=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>3</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>9</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>24</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>25</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>40</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>41</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>42</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>45</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>AKTAU (GB) </td><td>47</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>COLLIDE (GB) </td><td>53</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>55</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>56</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>51=</td><td>7</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>58=</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>60=</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>1=</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>13</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>STRATUM ALBION (GB)
</td><td>14</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)
</td><td>16</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>17</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>19</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>22</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>28</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>44</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>4</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>12</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>23</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>21</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>TRUE SELF (IRE) </td><td>26</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
I might have missed a black type race if it happened in Germany (R&S skips them).
walkermac
19th October 2020, 12:26 AM
Saturday results:
<table><tbody><tr><td>2400m Soft6 CAUL CUP Group 1 $5,150,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBQ2zBXUIPw)</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>1st of 18</td><td>0L</td><td>@ $5</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>3</td><td>2nd of 18</td><td>0.2L</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>24</td><td>3rd of 18</td><td>0.95L</td><td>@ $61</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td>16</td><td>4th of 18</td><td>1.95L</td><td>@ $17</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>20</td><td>5th of 18</td><td>2.45L</td><td>@ $9</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>6th of 18</td><td>2.65L</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>15</td><td>7th of 18</td><td>3.4L</td><td>@ $11</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>12</td><td>8th of 18</td><td>3.9L</td><td>@ $101</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>41</td><td>9th of 18</td><td>4.2L</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>32</td><td>10th of 18</td><td>4.6L</td><td>@ $7</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>17</td><td>12th of 18</td><td>5.2L</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>TRUE SELF (IRE) </td><td>26</td><td>13th of 18</td><td>5.95L</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>23</td><td>14th of 18</td><td>6.45L</td><td>@ $18</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>4</td><td>15th of 18</td><td>8.7L</td><td>@ $41</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>28</td><td>16th of 18</td><td>15.7L</td><td>@ $201</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>13</td><td>17th of 18</td><td>17.2L</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>19</td><td>18th of 18</td><td>27.2L</td><td>@ $31</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>2600m Good4 ST LEGER $501,500 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o47K_7UEXvw)</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>43</td><td>2nd of 10</td><td>1L</td><td>@ $4.4</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>51=</td><td>4th of 10</td><td>1.3L</td><td>@ $5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>50</td><td>5th of 10</td><td>5.5L</td><td>@ $3.3</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>40</td><td>6th of 10</td><td>6.1L</td><td>@ $81</td></tr></tbody></table>
UselessBettor
19th October 2020, 06:52 PM
Looking at that list who are in the top 24 we can contain our bets down to these horses:
TIGER MOTH (IRE)
RUSSIAN CAMELOT(IRE)
SURPRISE BABY (NZ)
FINCHE (GB)
PERSAN
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE)
VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ)
SIR DRAGONET (IRE)
BUCKHURST (IRE)
9 horses only which is not a bad list.
I would look to reduce these down further to
TIGER MOTH (IRE)
RUSSIAN CAMELOT(IRE)
PERSAN
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE)
VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ)
SIR DRAGONET (IRE)
We can eliminate these horses:
SURPRISE BABY (NZ) -- TOO FAR BACK -- UNPLACED IN 2019
BUCKHURST (IRE) -- ODDS ARE TOO LONG
FINCHE (GB) -- UNPLACED IN 2019 / 2018
walkermac
20th October 2020, 11:17 AM
Looking at that list who are in the top 24 we can contain our bets down to these horses:
TIGER MOTH (IRE)
RUSSIAN CAMELOT(IRE)
SURPRISE BABY (NZ)
FINCHE (GB)
PERSAN
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE)
VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ)
SIR DRAGONET (IRE)
BUCKHURST (IRE)
9 horses only which is not a bad list.Verry Elleegant has slipped down a further rung on the ladder with a 0.5kg penalty earned from her Caulfield Cup victory (meaning she loses a point in "the system").
Russian Camelot could lose some points also, depending how he goes in the Cox Plate this weekend (NB - he will gain a point due to the field size)
We can eliminate these horses:
SURPRISE BABY (NZ) -- TOO FAR BACK -- UNPLACED IN 2019I'm not going to rule out any runners based on their performance in last year's "race". I'm cautious even about them being too far back. Il Paradiso came from 21st position at the 800m last year and may well have nabbed Vow And Declare on the line had Master Of Reality not squeezed him out. Cross Counter won from 22nd position at the 800m the year prior (and Marmelo's 2nd in that race, under a decent weight of 56kg, was also launched from 20th).
Persan must be a candidate for ruling out. His rating seems way too low. He's had 19 starts as well, so it's not like the handicappers haven't had a good look at him.
evajb001
20th October 2020, 01:48 PM
I'm always weary of including horses that are trying to have a second or third go at it. Seems the often can run a place if performed well in previous years but rarely actually win. Now that may be simply due to luck or variance but its incredibly hard to win one melbourne cup, its even harder to try again second time around after losing previously with typically a higher weight and another years runs in the legs at an older age.
Not saying those runners can't run a great race, but if you want to narrow down the winning chances they'd be the first i'd look at in terms of winning. But it would be dangerous not to include them in exotics for placings.
walkermac
20th October 2020, 11:17 PM
Just noticed that the table I posted up was wrong. The total included a "< 10th position on the turn" point, which hasn't been part of "the system" since the first year (retrospectively).
Removing that column leaves Tiger Moth and Surprise Baby as the only ones with a clean sweep.
Nominees racing this Wednesday. Runners are eligible for a weight handicap in The Cup. Top 3 here run a qualifying performance and the prizemoney is added to their tally in the Order of Entry (latest one: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-10-19-lexus-melbourne-cup-elimination-order-as-at-oct-19-2020.pdf?la=en).
No-one's going to leap their way into the Top 24 without a weight penalty. There could be some shuffling in the order though: San Huberto winning would see him land in 25th position.
bet365 Geelong - Race 7 - 4:00PM bet365 Geelong Cup (2400 METRES)
<table><tbody><tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>34</td><td>$3.80</td></tr> <tr><td>SKYWARD (FR) </td><td>37</td><td>$4.40</td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td>38
</td><td>$5.50</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>35</td><td>$5.50</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>25</td><td>$8.50</td></tr> <tr><td>SAN HUBERTO (IRE) </td><td>30</td><td>$8.50</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>YTPFBC</td><td>$16.00</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>33
</td><td>$26</td></tr></tbody></table>
UselessBettor
21st October 2020, 07:30 AM
I appreciate all the work you put it.
I'll do my final selections the day of the cup, but its looking like a more condensed set of selections this year compared to the last few years.
I only remove runners who have been in this race previously and not run well. Its a good filter to use but a little subjective.
walkermac
22nd October 2020, 12:43 PM
Results from Cup nominees yesterday:
<table><tbody><tr><td>2400m Good4 GEEL CUP Group 3 $400,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yONKDVvBAPc)</td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>35</td><td>1st of 9</td><td>0L</td><td>@ $3.5</td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td>38</td><td>2nd of 9</td><td>0.2L</td><td>@ $8</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>25</td><td>3rd of 9</td><td>1.45L</td><td>@ $8.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>34</td><td>4th of 9</td><td>1.65L</td><td>@ $6</td></tr> <tr><td>SKYWARD (FR) </td><td>37</td><td>5th of 9</td><td>2.4L</td><td>@ $5</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>33</td><td>7th of 9</td><td>5.25L</td><td>@ $21</td></tr> <tr><td>SAN HUBERTO (IRE) </td><td>30</td><td>8th of 9</td><td>10.25L</td><td>@ $26</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>56=</td><td>9th of 9</td><td>12.5L</td><td>@ $8</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
22nd October 2020, 12:56 PM
Steel Prince was awarded a 0.5kg weight penalty for his Geelong Cup victory yesterday. This seems him promoted up to 25th in the Order of Entry.
Not as good news for Django Freeman, Aktau and Santiago who have all been withdrawn through injury.
Here's the Order of Entry released today: https://www.racingvictoria.com.au/the-sport/racing/victorian-race-program/-/media/fc479960c63448448597d73326db11d5.ashx (NB - still includes Django Freeman). 62 runners remain in the hunt. Two ballot exemptions are still on offer: one to the victor of Saturday's Cox Plate and the other to the winner of the Hotham Stakes (the Saturday following).
There's less than 2 weeks to until the big dance! :O
walkermac
24th October 2020, 11:21 AM
Today's Cup nominees:
The Valley - Race 8 - 3:30PM McCafe Moonee Valley Gold Cup (2500 METRES)
<table><tbody><tr><td>Nominee</td><td>Order</td><td>Price</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>2=</td><td>$10</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>21</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>22</td><td>$21</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>36</td><td>$11</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>39</td><td>$5.50</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>42</td><td>$21.00</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>45</td><td>$15</td></tr> <tr><td>SELINO (GB) </td><td>51</td><td>$11</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>52</td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>54</td><td>$4</td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr> <tr><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr></tbody></table>
The Valley - Race 9 - 4:15PM Ladbrokes Cox Plate (2040 METRES)
<table> <tbody><tr><td>Nominee</td><td>Order</td><td>Price</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>7</td><td>$4.20</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>11</td><td>$11</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>15</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>28</td><td>$20</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>33</td><td>$41</td></tr></tbody></table>
UselessBettor
25th October 2020, 06:34 PM
Sir Dragonets run was eye catching. It was a good ride though which couldn't be faulted.
walkermac
25th October 2020, 11:22 PM
Weekend results from Cup nominees:
2040m Soft7 COX PLATE Group 1 $5,250,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk2FivY7HhA)
<table><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Order</td><td>Place</td><td>Price</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>2</td><td>1st of 14</td><td>$7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>3rd of 14</td><td>$3.5</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>28</td><td>4th of 14</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>33</td><td>8th of 14</td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>15</td><td>10th of 14</td><td>$26</td></tr></tbody></table>
2500m Soft7 MV CUP Group 2 $511,000 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CInM1aRtd1U)
<table><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Order</td><td>Place</td><td>Price</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>22</td><td>1st of 12</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>44</td><td>2nd of 12</td><td>$4.2</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>3=</td><td>3rd of 12</td><td>$10</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>21</td><td>4th of 12</td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>46</td><td>5th of 12</td><td>$19</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>39</td><td>6th of 12</td><td>$5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>42</td><td>7th of 12</td><td>$18</td></tr> <tr><td>SELINO (GB) </td><td>52</td><td>8th of 12</td><td>$9.5</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>53</td><td>11th of 12</td><td>$21</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>36</td><td>12th of 12</td><td>$16</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
25th October 2020, 11:33 PM
Collide is out and there may be a few more to follow tomorrow, with third acceptances due. Following the weekend's racing, "the system" tallies now looks like this:
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Order</td><td>Total</td><td>Less than 8yo</td><td>Wgt < 57kg</td><td>Not a mare</td><td><= $21 SP</td><td>< $16 in last</td><td>Wgtd < than in last</td><td>FS in last >= 10</td><td>Won Black Type</td><td><=3L in last</td><td><6 victories</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>2</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>11</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>18</td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>9</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>20</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>48</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ATTORNEY (FR) </td><td>50=</td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>26</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>NICKAJACK CAVE (IRE) </td><td>32</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>35</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>LE DON DE VIE (GB) </td><td>37</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SKYWARD (FR) </td><td>38</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>BRIMHAM ROCKS (GB) </td><td>43</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SHARED AMBITION (IRE) </td><td>44</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>PONDUS (GB) </td><td>47</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>3=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>57=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td>57=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>57=</td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>1</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>5</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>BUCKHURST (IRE) </td><td>15</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>22</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>25</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>30</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF WINE (GER) </td><td>33</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>36</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PATHS OF GLORY (GB) </td><td>49</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>SELINO (GB) </td><td>52</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>LEVENDI </td><td>53</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>3=</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ENTENTE </td><td>55=</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>CADRE DU NOIR (USA) </td><td>57=</td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>10</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MIRAGE DANCER (GB) </td><td>13</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td>16</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>17</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>19</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>24</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MUGATOO (IRE) </td><td>28</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>RAHEEN HOUSE (IRE) </td><td>29</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SAN HUBERTO (IRE) </td><td>31</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>34</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>39</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>40</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>CHAPADA </td><td>41</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>42</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>45</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>AL GALAYEL (IRE) </td><td>54</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MIDTERM (GB) </td><td>50=</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>LORD BELVEDERE (GB)</td><td>55=</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>GRAND PROMENADE (GB) </td><td>57=</td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>7</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>12</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>STRATUM ALBION (GB)</td><td>14</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>TOFFEE TONGUE (NZ) </td><td>23</td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>GALLIC CHIEFTAIN (FR) </td><td>46</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>21</td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>TRUE SELF (IRE) </td><td>27</td><td>3</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
26th October 2020, 03:16 PM
Third acceptances are in and there are a couple of surprises: three of the top 24 dropped out of the running.
Mirage Dancer (formerly 13th) was the highest of these. After taking out the Metropolitan he finished a long adrift second-last in the Caulfield Cup; he must have had a niggle he couldn't overcome.
After all the hullaballoo about being the Cox Plate emergency behind less worthy runners, Buckhurst (formerly 15th in the order) finished well off the pace in 10th. Now he's out of the Cup.
Toffee Tongue (23rd in the order) was 14th in the Caulfield Cup
Mugatoo would have now been on the bubble, but has elected not to continue after his 4th placing in the Cox Plate (in which he finished 3.5L back and ran 5 lengths further than the winner).
Raheen House was one further spot back in the Order (and a lot further back in the Caulfield Cup)
Too far back in the order and out of time were: Master Of Wine, Brimham Rocks, Shared Ambition, Paths Of Glory, Midterm, Selino, Levendi, Al Galayel and Entente.
Cadre du Noir and Grand Promenade were yet to pass the first ballot clause and pulled the pin.
45 remain in the running. The current Order of Entry is here: https://cdn.racing.com/-/media/rv/2020-rv/the-sport/files/2020-10-26-lexus-melbourne-cup-elimination-order-as-at-oct-26-2020.pdf
Four are still to pass the first ballot clause: Lord Belvedere, Admire Robson, Future Score and Saracen Knight.
The Bendigo Cup on Wednesday is a qualifying race and prizemoney attained will count. It will be very interesting around the bottom of the Top 24. The Hotham Stakes winner will leap above them all, but Zebrowski could sneak into 23rd with a win at Bendigo.
Everybody else seems to either be counting on further attrition or to win the Hotham
True Self is currently in 24th but hasn't nominated for either (or maybe the Racing Australia website still needs an update; noms only closed 3 hours ago for the Bendigo Cup).
walkermac
26th October 2020, 11:52 PM
Couldn't help myself:
<h2>Who has the lucky number 17?</h2>
Repeat thread readers (firstly: apologies for how lame it's been this year) would know about the number 17 factor. About one quarter of Cup runners share this feature BUT 10 of the last 12 winners had it. (Last year's didn't; the 2 races where it failed over that period were also the 2 slowest - no coincidence). I am, of course, talking about each runner's Conduit Mare Stamina figure. Way too complicated to go into just what that is here; if you're interested seek the "Is Dosage bunkum?" thread.
The lucky number 17 runners after third acceptances are:
AVILIUS<sup>7</sup>
SURPRISE BABY<sup>16</sup>
MIAMI BOUND<sup>20</sup>
STEEL PRINCE<sup>22</sup>
ASHRUN<sup>29</sup>
SCHABAU<sup>40</sup>
So it looks like four will make the final field, unless there are any scratchings or Hotham winners among them. Surprise Baby and Schabau are the only ones who are also on the top two rungs of 'the system' ladder currently. Can we call Surprise Baby the winner yet? ;)
UselessBettor
27th October 2020, 09:30 PM
I was going to ask about the dosage when the final field was declared. Thanks for providing it earlier. Based on those with it:
AVILIUS - Not enough of the other factors to be considered a contender.
SURPRISE BABY - This stat brings this horse back into my list of contenders.
MIAMI BOUND - A total of 7 might have this one just edge in my selections given the dosage.
STEEL PRINCE - same as Miami bound. It may or may not get into my selection list after only scoring 7 in the total column.
ASHRUN- If it makes the 24 its in my list of contenders.
SCHABAU-If it makes the 24 its in my list of contenders.
Really looking forward to the final 24 and seeing the table of points.
I think the winning horse will have a score of 8 or higher. But I am willing to stretch it down to 7 if there are compelling reasons. Half the field currently has at least a score of 7 or higher if I counted right.
walkermac
28th October 2020, 09:59 AM
Cup nominees racing today:
Bendigo - Race 7 - 4:00PM Apiam Bendigo Cup (2400 METRES)
<table><tbody><tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>25</td><td>$5.50</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>37</td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>PONDUS (GB) </td><td>39</td><td>$5</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>43=</td><td>$6.50</td></tr></tbody></table>
If Zebrowski wins, the prizemoney should get him into 23rd in the Order of Entry. The rest will need to get at least a 1.5kg penalty to get into the field. They're all nominated for the Hotham and I had anticipated them going there instead (like Lord Belvedere and Azuro have). Scratchings closed a couple of hours ago, so it looks like they may have given up on the Melbourne Cup. I guess it only cost them $3k for their third declaration...
walkermac
29th October 2020, 12:58 AM
Results from today. Looks like Zebrowski will now need a couple to drop out to get a start. The remainder look like they've done their dash.
2400m Good4 BDGO CUP Group 3 $400,000
<table><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Order</td><td>Place</td><td>Price</td></tr> <tr><td>PONDUS (GB) </td><td>39</td><td>2nd of 15</td><td>$3.8</td></tr> <tr><td>HAKY (IRE) </td><td>37</td><td>3rd of 15</td><td>$12</td></tr> <tr><td>SARACEN KNIGHT (IRE) </td><td>43=</td><td>4th of 15</td><td>$5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>ZEBROWSKI (NZ) </td><td>25</td><td>5th of 15</td><td>$6</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
31st October 2020, 05:14 PM
Results from the Hotham Stakes today. The winner is into the Melbourne Cup on Tuesday.
2500m Good4 HOTHAM HCP Group 3 $201,300 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPjaXw5cofc)
<table><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Order</td><td>Place</td><td>Price</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>28</td><td>1st of 10</td><td>$5.5</td></tr> <tr><td>SOUND (GER)</td><td>32</td><td>2nd of 10</td><td>$7.5</td></tr> <tr><td>FUTURE SCORE (IRE) </td><td>42=</td><td>3rd of 10</td><td>$12</td></tr> <tr><td>CARIF </td><td>35</td><td>5th of 10</td><td>$10</td></tr> <tr><td>SCHABAU (GER) </td><td>39</td><td>6th of 10</td><td>$4.8</td></tr> <tr><td>ADMIRE ROBSON (JPN) </td><td>42=</td><td>7th of 10</td><td>$5</td></tr> <tr><td>AZURO (FR) </td><td>33</td><td>8th of 10</td><td>$81</td></tr> <tr><td>PLATINUM INVADOR (NZ) </td><td>27</td><td>9th of 10</td><td>$51</td></tr> <tr><td>HUSH WRITER (JPN) </td><td>29</td><td>10th of 10</td><td>$21</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
31st October 2020, 05:45 PM
I've mentioned this Cup System over the last few years and it picked last year's winner. It's "Aspro's Melbourne Cup System", presumably soon to be posted by Racing & Sports:
Rule 1 - List any Cup acceptor placed in either the Caulfield Cup and Mackinnon Stakes (now irrelevant moved to finals day)
Verry Elleegant, Anthony Van Dyck, The Chosen One
Rule 2 - List any Cup acceptor placed 2nd, 3rd or 4th in the Moonee Valley Gold Cup
Miami Bound, Oceanex
Rule 3 - List any acceptor who was placed 1-2-3 in the Melbourne Cup at their last cup run
Vow And Declare, Prince Of Arran
Rule 4 - List the Lexus Stakes winner
Ashrun
Rule 5 - Delete any horse whose last run in the Melbourne Cup was an unplaced run.
Goodbye: The Chosen One
Rule 6 - Delete any horse who is aged 3yo or 7yo or older.
Goodbye: Prince Of Arran
So per this system, the winner comes from: Verry Elleegant, Anthony Van Dyck, Miamia Bound, Oceanex, Vow And Declare, and Ashrun.
There must be some doubt regarding Vow And Declare there, back-to-back winners are kinda rare...
Note also that it doesn't account for debuting foreign runners, which was considered a bit of a negative thing for a while, but is well and truly not as great an issue now. The only eligible debuting international this year though is Tiger Moth. Stratum Albium is out due to Rule 6. Both Master Of Reality - arguably, I guess - and Twilight Payment are omitted due to Rule 5.
walkermac
31st October 2020, 05:52 PM
Here is the average extra distance each barrier runs (based on the last 3 years since information has been publicly available):
https://i.postimg.cc/XYRWG0RL/Updated-Barriers.png
I posted the below in the 2018 thread regarding barriers and it seemed to work out somewhat last year as well:
Since 2000:
First
<=B15: 83.33%
>B15: 16.67%
Top 2
<=B15: 83.33%
>B15: 16.67%
Top 3
<=B15: 81.48%
>B15: 18.52%
Top 4
<=B15: 81.94%
>B15: 18.06%
Were it random chance, going by the average field size over the past 18 editions (excluding those who didn't complete the race), it should be:
<=B15: 66.17%
>B15: 33.83%
5th position is where the outer barrier's results start to catch up to expectation. For those finishing exactly 5th, it's 50-50 whether they were drawn outside barrier 15 these past 18 years.
5th-7th: those in outside barriers are over-represented
<=B15: 55.46%
>B15: 44.44%
8th-14th: it seems to swing back
<=B15: 72.22%
>B15: 27.88%
remainder: and back again
<=B15: 56.41%
>B15: 43.52%
Does it go in the placings: good inside horses over-represented, then good outside horses over-represented, then dodgy inside horses over-represented, then dodgy outside horses over-represented?
What kind of outside-drawn horses overcome their misfortune and finish top-4? The 3 winners within the sample were <= 52kg. 11 of the 13 top-4 finishers were also <= $21 despite their draw.
Of the 140 finishers drawn outside barrier 15, the <= $21 rule eliminates 99 candidates and misses 1 second and 1 third (Jakkalberry and Red Cadeaux). Weight <= 54kg elimates a further 12 for no further top-4 misses.
The above might help with some borderline First-4 selections after the barrier draw...
walkermac
31st October 2020, 06:10 PM
Barrier draw:
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Barrier</td><td>Weight</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td>1</td><td>54.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>2</td><td>55kg</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>3</td><td>58.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>4</td><td>57kg</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>5</td><td>53.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>6</td><td>54.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>7</td><td>54.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>8</td><td>53kg</td></tr> <tr><td>STRATUM ALBION (GB)</td><td>9</td><td>55kg</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>10</td><td>57kg</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>11</td><td>56kg</td></tr> <tr><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>12</td><td>55.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>13</td><td>51kg</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>14</td><td>55.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>15</td><td>55.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>16</td><td>53.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>17</td><td>51.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>18</td><td>53.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>19</td><td>54.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>20</td><td>51kg</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>21</td><td>53.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>22</td><td>52.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>23</td><td>52.5kg</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>24</td><td>53kg</td></tr></tbody></table>
walkermac
31st October 2020, 06:16 PM
Here are the results of "the system". NB - price movements will have to be monitored up until racetime to be fully accurate. Top two runs seem to do pretty well. Those with a 17 Stamina figure are also noted.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Horse</td><td>Total</td><td>Less than 8yo</td><td>Wgt < 57kg</td><td>Not a mare</td><td><= $21 SP</td><td>< $16 in last</td><td>Wgtd < than in last</td><td>FS in last >= 10</td><td>Won Black Type</td><td><=3L in last</td><td><6 victories</td></tr> <tr><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) <sup>17</sup></td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>ASHRUN (FR) <sup>17</sup></td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>10</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>9</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PERSAN </td><td>8</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) <sup>17</sup></td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) <sup>17</sup></td><td>7</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB)</td><td>6</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>WARNING </td><td>6</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>AVILIUS (GB) <sup>17</sup></td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>5</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td></tr> <tr><td>STRATUM ALBION (GB)</td><td>5</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td></tr> <tr><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>4</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>0</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>1</td><td>0</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
UselessBettor
1st November 2020, 02:29 PM
I beleive this year it will be won by one of the horses with 8 or higher. That leaves us with 9 selections.
SIR DRAGONET (IRE)
SURPRISE BABY (NZ)
RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE)
ASHRUN (FR)
TIGER MOTH (IRE)
FINCHE (GB)
MASTER OF REALITY (IRE)
KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR)
PERSAN
Based on these I would eliminate the following usiong the barrier:
ASHRUN
RUSSIAN CAMELOT
TIGER MOTH
KING OF LEOGRANCE
PERSAN
I would eliminate the following due to odds :
KING OF LEOGRANCE
PERSAN
I would remove the following from failing in previous Melb Cup attempts:
MASTER OF REALITY (Came 4th last year)
SURPRISE BABY (Came 5th last year)
FINCHE (Came 7th last year, 4th the year before)
I could almost be forgivable of the above rule this year due to COVID.
So what do we have left:
SIR DRAGONET (IRE)
If we include those who ran previously in a melbourne cup unplaced we are down to 4 horses:
SIR DRAGONET (IRE)
SURPRISE BABY
MASTER OF REALITY
FINCHE
My order of preference is :
Sire Dragonet
Suprise baby
Master of Reality
I'll risk Finche not be included after 2 failures already in the cup.
I am looking forward to seeing what others think.
walkermac
2nd November 2020, 03:32 PM
Here's my view (Part I):
1 - Anthony Van Dyck
26 runners sired by Galileo progeny with 0 wins. 2 seconds and 2 thirds, so I'm not sure there's *too* much in that, but none of those placegetters carried 58.5kg. Beating Stradivarius is pretty good and coming 2nd to Ghaiyyath by just 2.5L is not too shabby either. So while he's not got a great win record at G1-level, against opposition like that it can be overlooked somewhat. He appears to be the best horse to contest the Melbourne Cup in a fair while, the only real queries on him are the distance and his weight in comparison to others. I reckon he's probably 0.5kg less than he should be; so much of a muchness there. I also reckon around 2400-2700m is his best so that weight may prove quite telling in the last couple of furlongs. Truth be told, horses carrying 58kg or above don't have a bad record this century. A few misses (Admire Rakti wasn't well, Snow Sky flubbed the ridiculous Prince of Penzance year, Septimus ran a stupid race in his, and Dunaden never saw a soft track again after his initial win) but the rest were handy: Makybe Diva won; Vinnie Roe finished 2nd, 4th and 8th; Americain was 4th then 11th in his final ever race; and Viewed was handicapped out of it following his win the previous year, still finishing 7th. He's a chance to win, but perhaps likelier to place; $10
2 - Avilius
Had his best run since coming to Australia in last month's Caulfield Cup: blocked for a run badly then almost caught Finche, and was only just shaded by Prince Of Arran. Meanwhile Avilius is at $51 in markets and that pair is $12-$18. Didn't really come on in Spring last year, and was only pretty good this Autumn, but appears to be in great form now. Even his trainer doesn't think he's suited to 3200m but he's won at 2500m previously and his one go in the 2018 Cup *looks* terrible but he almost fell over a broken-down horse and was found to have lacerations afterward. I agree that it's slightly beyond his preferred but he seems very much under the radar. Was $16 ahead of the Cup two years ago but on account of the extra kgs and how strong the field is this year: $26
3 - Vow And Declare
Should have been at least $51 last year. Ridiculous good fortune, a gifted ride, an opposition who handed him the race, and - finally - Il Paradiso and Master Of Reality trying to three-stooge their way past him, pushed him across the line in first. Only a chance if the field walks again, but it doesn't look like that kind of race. $71.
4 - Master Of Reality
No Frankie Dettori in the saddle so he could have a chance here... Doesn't look like he's in the form that preceded last year's Cup. Two big losses to Twilight Payment upon resuming, then two better runs but only at G3 and Listed level among mixed company and slow speed. Doesn't look classy enough or have much of a turn of foot if necessary. $26
5 - Sir Dragonet
There aren't many who have done the Cox Plate-Melbourne Cup double but trainer Ciaron Maher says he'll be even better in the latter. Couldn't receive a weight penalty following his Cox Plate win so if he can maintain the same level of performance then he's snuck by the handicapper a little. Last year he was just beaten by Anthony Van Dyck over 2400m at level weights; in the Cup he'll be carrying 3kg less. 2900m is his furthest contested distancce and in that race (last year) he beat Il Paradiso by 2 lengths. Both Il Paradiso in 2019 and Sir Dragonet in 2020 are 4kg under their benchmarks. I think he'll be fine over the 3200m and deserves to be favourite. $8
6 - Twilight Payment
11th in last year's Cup, but that's not saying much. Won a couple of times earlier in this campaign, comfortably, but in very slowly-run races. Melham appears to be the favoured jockey and he's aboard Master Of Reality, so it's hard to favour Twilight Payment over his stablemate. If team riding was allowed in the Cup *wink wink* I daresay that he would be towing Master Of Reality around the course. Hopefully the (Joseph) O'Brien camp - let alone the remainder of the field - know that they'll be handing the race to Verry Elleegant and/or her ilk if they try to go as slow this year as they did the last. $41
7 - Verry Elleegant
Arguably the best horse in Australia but I don't think she gets the distance and so is carrying a kg or two extra. Surely the rest of the field know they have to turn this into a staying contest, rather than a sit and sprint... They saw what happened in the Caulfield Cup with a soft middle section... It seemed self-evident last year as well though: it was as if people didn't want to win the Melbourne Cup, only not to lose it. I think Anthony Van Dyck comes out of the Caulfield Cup in a better position, but things could still fall Verry Elleegant's way. $17
8 - Mustajeer
Last good run was in the Tancred last year, finishing 4 lengths behind Verry Elleegant and with a 3kg turnaround in his favour now (and 2kg wrt Avilius who finished just behind). Unfortunately he's shown absolutely nothing since. Difficult to see him threatening. $101
9 - Stratum Albion
This is an interesting runner. Willie Mullins has brought across this style of older flat/hurdler a number of times: Max Dynamite most famously; Simenon another. Stratum Albion beat Nayef Road in his last flat race - over 3200m - and finished second to Enbihaar in the same, which is good form. Hasn't won the sole stakes race he's contested, but Max Dynamite had only won one ahead of his Cup debut/2nd placing: the Lonsdale Cup; i.e. the same race that Stratum Albion just contested. Max Dynamite similarly went directly into the Melbourne Cup from that race. I don't think Stratum Albion is quite of his standard but nor is he far off. We've also seen how runners like Prince Of Arran can improve in Australia; why not this guy? I don't mind him. I see him making a long, sustained run for home from 700-800m out, which will crush some spirits and cruel some chances. $26
10 - Dashing Willoughby
I think Greg Carpenter rates the Lonsdale Cup. He's handicapped Dashing Willoughby on that performance, where he carried the same as Stratum Albion and finished a length behind. He carries 0.5kg less here. He contested the Caulfield Cup, setting the pace for much of the race and then fading badly. I don't know that that's indicative of his standard; certainly not what he's dished up overseas. He's tried the same style of run a few times and hopefully Michael Walker has learned a few lessons. His mount doesn't have the turn off foot to allow him to slow the tempo; he just needs to string the field out to be a shot. Said to have improved following his Caulfield performance and will prefer a bigger track, I'd think. $41
11 - Finche
He'll be thereabouts, as always, but doesn't appear to have the class to triumph, no matter the type of race that gets served up. Find it unlikely that he'll be winning, but he'll be up there so can't be entirely discounted either. $21
12 - Prince Of Arran
Two firsts, two seconds and two thirds in his Australian runs, ahead of a 4th in the Caulfield Cup just gone. Will be throwing his hat in the ring but the standard this year seems a little higher than his previous runs. $18
walkermac
2nd November 2020, 03:33 PM
Here's my view (Part II):
13 - Surprise Baby
Eye-catching run in last year's Cup: was totally unsuited by the pace but rocketed home from near last to finish inside 1 length. The wide barrier draw wasn't bad for a backmarker, but if he had a couple kilos less, or the race was run at a rate that would have tired those at the front, he would have been an unlucky second (to Il Paradiso) instead of 5th. There looks to be more pace in this year's edition and the closer barrier draw should knock 4 lengths or so off his journey, presuming he doesn't have to hook around everyone at the turn. The extra 1kg on his back this year shouldn't matter all that much. He'll still need a little luck for his style of running though: one Craig Williams ride to the standard of the 2019 Melbourne Cup, please. He's targeted this race with a prep to keep him very fresh. First up was too short over 1600m and still only just edged out by Humidor; the Turnbull Stakes he was unlucky and held up for half of the straight. He'll be third up into the Cup. His running style is giving me pause (along with the form of a few internationals) but he is very much a winning chance. $12
14 - King Of Leogrance
Ran a cracking Adelaide Cup, then took 2 months of ahead of the Ramsden and was outrun to the ballot exemption there by Oceanex. Just the two lead-up runs with the first of these, the Turnbull Stakes, a forgive. Finished 1.5L behind Steel Prince in the Geelong Cup, second up, and gets 0.5kg back. $31
15 - Russian Camelot
Tough to see him getting one back on his half-brother Sir Dragonet: 0.5kg better off in the Cup and he looks even better suited to the distance than Russian Camelot does. That he drew wide and had to work for a spot (running 2L further) is the only query on that. Top 10 finish very likely and is a place chance, so he's in the mix of jagging a win, say $15
16 - Steel Prince
My first thought was that he's doing better than last year, but then I saw he was $61 in last year's race so that wasn't saying much. Didn't race in the Autumn on account of a stress fracture but seems to be in order now. Did very well in the Bart Cummings and then went on to win the Geelong Cup; not as great as Prince Of Arran's performance of last year, but still OK. Great stats at 2400m and above: since coming to Australia he's 6 wins and 4 placings from 11 starts. You'll know he'll put up a good fight. Has drawn wide and gone forward on a couple of occasions and I wouldn't be surprised to see that on Tuesday. With the right run he could threaten. $31
17 - The Chosen One
17th placing in last year's Cup but that can be discounted as, not only was the pace a joke, but - for some reason - they decided to run in the Hotham a couple days before, even though he was going to make the field. Picked up a 2nd in the Sydney Cup on a heavy track over Autumn, so the 3200m distance isn't a problem: only it was behind Etah James, so no great shakes there. The Herbert Power result was quite disappointing but it looks like a sit-and-sprint which will rarely flatter a backmarker at Caulfield (The Chosen One won it the year prior 3s faster). A 1L 3rd in the Caulfield Cup and he gets 0.5kg back on the winner Verry Ellegant. A bit of a lucky run where a gap opened at the right time but he somehow only ran 4m less than the winner overall. Great draw for a similar kind of thing to happen in this race. There are some timelines where he'd be in the mix but many more where he isn't. $31
18 - Ashrun
The Hotham winner has a pretty good record in the Cup of recent times, but for Ashrun this Will mean 3 runs inside 2 weeks. Downdraft couldn't do it last year, finishing 22nd after winning his way into the field the Saturday prior. Ashrun won with 61kg in what surely could be called a gutbuster to the line. How does he back up from that? He'll have to work hard after drawing widest on Tuesday also, else be hooked to the rear and ridden for luck. Has the talent, but I think the circumstances to get into the field will knock off the gloss. Chance of placing if things go ideally, but too many queries for mine: $26.
19 - Warning
Was a close finisher in the Turnbull Stakes, weaving through the field from the rear and earning a big ratings jump. From there he has a favourable 3.5kg turnaround in the Cup weights with respect to Verry Elleegant and Finche, and 2.5kg on Surprise Baby. Unfortunately, at Cup weights, he was a bit of a fail in the Caulfield Cup, finishing 5 lengths back. Arguably it was the wrong pace on the wrong track from the wrong position, but you would have hoped to see a little more when clear. Not sure that the Soft surface suited either which, if true, puts even better stock in his distance ability, winning the 2500m Victoria Derby on Soft a year ago. The Caulfield Cup performance wasn't unanticipated, with his trainer saying that Warning hates Caulfield, and his jockey stating that he'd be better suited by the bigger, flat track at Flemington. He's currently at $51 but I think he's maybe been misjudged a little. $26
20 - Etah James
Too old. Not enough class. Too much weight. Needs a wet track. $101.
21 - Tiger Moth
What the heck are we supposed to do with this?! Only had 4 career runs and 2 of those were in maidens... Horse Racing Ireland have given him a 113 rating, which is 4 higher than what Rekindling had at the time of his Cup victory (and what they gave him when he returned to Irish Racing afterward). Tiger Moth carriers 1kg more than Rekindling did in 2017. His rating mostly seems based on his narrow 2nd to Santiago in the Irish Derby and what that horse did surrounding it. Santiago had won the Queen's Vase 8 days beforehand and his trainers said it was a big call running him again so soon. The Derby itself, though held in driving rain was on a Good track and nearly 7 seconds slower than the 2019 revival. Next race, Santiago finished a couple of lengths behind Stradivarius: which is pretty meaningless as Stradivarius *usually* only just does enough to win. Nayef Road was 2nd, 1.25L ahead, and it's probably more accurate comparing to him: a 115-rater carrying 5.5kg more. Tiger Moth's next race was a win in a Group 3 which the Racing Post said was 3.5s slow, so - again - the 4L margin looks more impressive than it should. Tiger Moth's more of a punt than I like. If he was 50-51kg I think he could be a shot but - and I may look silly saying so - I think he's a place chance at best. $15.
22 - Oceanex
Won the Andrew Ramsden in Autumn to get in; hasn't shown much since. Passed a vet check yesterday to make the field and has a gear change, using something for horses with hoof problems. Her trainers have said a soft track would be preferred and she's not going to get it. Besides that, Miami Bound flew away from her on that very surface in the Gold Cup and she's 0.5kg worse off on Tuesday. $51.
23 - Miami Bound
Won the Oaks comfortably this time last year, then was brought back out in Autumn and was very ordinary. That form continued until her last race in the Moonee Valley Gold Cup, where she was pretty great though unwanted in the betting. I think she needs a wet track and a fierce pace to be of any real chance. Will probably drop back for cover and then run on for luck in the straight. I would think that 3200m is beyond her best but she's excelled with her two goes at 2500m so far, so what do I know? $41 in markets and that seems about right, for mine.
24 - Persan
Won the Bart Cummings, finishing 1L ahead of Sound who was just shaded by Ashrun in the Lexus. The weights between the races indicate that Persan is probably carrying an extra couple of kilograms. Very long campaign: the Cup will be his 11th run. On the plus side: 4 wins from 5 at Flemington and his best appear those over further (though this will be his first attempt at anything longer than 2500m he looks like he'll get the distance to me). His last run in the Bart Cummings was also very good: the previous two editions were both on a Good3 and this year's was over 2s faster *with* a last 600m split over 0.5s faster. The stats make it look like he favours wetter tracks, but the bulk of his good-track failures were prior to this season's "awakening". If he'd had one less victory he'd be on the second rung of "the system" (and given that all of them occured in the past 6 months from Maiden level and the handicapper has already admitted to getting his handicap weight wrong to begin with by penalising him 1kg, it's a blurry line here, per my thinking). Don't mind him for top 10 and should be shorter than his current price. Back in the 2018 thread it was a speculative factoid that horses who won the Bart Cummings and run the final 600m under 36s would finish top 5. Persan did it under 35s. $21
walkermac
2nd November 2020, 03:34 PM
Summarising:
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>#1</td><td>5</td><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>$8</td></tr> <tr><td>#2</td><td>1</td><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>$10</td></tr> <tr><td>#3</td><td>13</td><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>$12</td></tr> <tr><td>#4</td><td>21</td><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>$15</td></tr> <tr><td>#5</td><td>15</td><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>$15</td></tr> <tr><td>#6</td><td>7</td><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>$17</td></tr> <tr><td>#7</td><td>12</td><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB) </td><td>$18</td></tr> <tr><td>#8</td><td>24</td><td>PERSAN </td><td>$21</td></tr> <tr><td>#9</td><td>11</td><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>$21</td></tr> <tr><td>#10</td><td>9</td><td>STRATUM ALBION (GB) </td><td>$23</td></tr> <tr><td>#11</td><td>4</td><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>#12</td><td>2</td><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>#13</td><td>18</td><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>#14</td><td>19</td><td>WARNING </td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>#15</td><td>14</td><td>KING OF LEOGRANCE (FR) </td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>#16</td><td>17</td><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>#17</td><td>16</td><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>#18</td><td>10</td><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>#19</td><td>6</td><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>#20</td><td>23</td><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>#21</td><td>22</td><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>$51</td></tr> <tr><td>#22</td><td>3</td><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>$71</td></tr> <tr><td>#23</td><td>8</td><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>$101</td></tr> <tr><td>#24</td><td>20</td><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>$101</td></tr></tbody></table>
Prices were off the top of my head and somehow came out to a 107% market.
123Mick
2nd November 2020, 03:45 PM
1 Anthony Van Dyck 8.2
5 Sir Dragonet 8.2
7 Verry Elleegant 13.4
11 Finche 15.5
12 Prince Of Arran 10.3
13 Surprise Baby 9.5
15 Russian Camelot 13.4
18 Ashrun 17.4
21 Tiger Moth 8.2
My Selections with generated Odds.
General rule of thumb is that when the TAB odds are lower then the above that creates a bet. But being the Cup normally all odds drift.
123Mick
3rd November 2020, 10:12 AM
TAB Odds are through which now narrows down the selections
1 Anthony Van Dyck 8.2 - 11.0
5 Sir Dragonet 8.2 - 12.2
7 Verry Elleegant 13.4 - 11.1
15 Russian Camelot 13.4 - 13.2
21 Tiger Moth 8.2 - 8.5
Good luck all
walkermac
3rd November 2020, 04:20 PM
King Leogrance was scratched this morning and Anthony Van Dyck broke down during the race, being euthanised afterwards.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>Finish</td><td>No.</td><td>Horse</td><td>Trainer</td><td>Jockey</td><td>Margin</td><td>Bar.</td><td>Weight</td><td>Penalty</td><td>Starting Price</td></tr> <tr><td>1</td><td>6</td><td>TWILIGHT PAYMENT (IRE) </td><td>Joseph O'Brien</td><td>Jye McNeil</td><td></td><td>12</td><td>55.5kg</td><td></td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>2</td><td>21</td><td>TIGER MOTH (IRE) </td><td>Aidan O'Brien</td><td>Kerrin McEvoy</td><td>0.4L</td><td>22</td><td>52.5kg</td><td>2.5kg</td><td>$6.50</td></tr> <tr><td>3</td><td>12</td><td>PRINCE OF ARRAN (GB) </td><td>Charlie Fellowes</td><td>Jamie Kah</td><td>0.6L</td><td>1</td><td>54.5kg</td><td></td><td>$9.50</td></tr> <tr><td>4</td><td>17</td><td>THE CHOSEN ONE (NZ) </td><td>Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman</td><td>Daniel Stackhouse</td><td>2.35L</td><td>5</td><td>53.5kg</td><td></td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>5</td><td>24</td><td>PERSAN </td><td>Ciaron Maher & David Eustace</td><td>Michael Dee</td><td>2.45L</td><td>19</td><td>51kg</td><td>1.0kg</td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>6</td><td>5</td><td>SIR DRAGONET (IRE) </td><td>Ciaron Maher & David Eustace</td><td>Glen Boss</td><td>3.45L</td><td>14</td><td>55.5kg</td><td></td><td>$12</td></tr> <tr><td>7</td><td>7</td><td>VERRY ELLEEGANT (NZ) </td><td>Chris Waller</td><td>Mark Zahra</td><td>3.85L</td><td>15</td><td>55.5kg</td><td>0.5kg</td><td>$10</td></tr> <tr><td>8</td><td>15</td><td>RUSSIAN CAMELOT (IRE) </td><td>Danny O'Brien</td><td>Damien Oliver</td><td>3.95L</td><td>16</td><td>53.5kg</td><td></td><td>$13</td></tr> <tr><td>9</td><td>11</td><td>FINCHE (GB) </td><td>Chris Waller</td><td>James McDonald</td><td>4.7L</td><td>6</td><td>54.5kg</td><td></td><td>$21</td></tr> <tr><td>10</td><td>18</td><td>ASHRUN (FR) </td><td>Andreas Wohler</td><td>Declan Bates</td><td>4.8L</td><td>23</td><td>53kg</td><td></td><td>$26</td></tr> <tr><td>11</td><td>22</td><td>OCEANEX (NZ) </td><td>Mick Price & Michael Kent (Jnr)</td><td>Dean Yendall</td><td>5.55L</td><td>17</td><td>51.5kg</td><td></td><td>$81</td></tr> <tr><td>12</td><td>19</td><td>WARNING </td><td>Anthony & Sam Freedman</td><td>Luke Currie</td><td>6.8L</td><td>8</td><td>53kg</td><td></td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>13</td><td>13</td><td>SURPRISE BABY (NZ) </td><td>Paul Preusker</td><td>Craig Williams</td><td>8.8L</td><td>7</td><td>54.5kg</td><td></td><td>$6F</td></tr> <tr><td>14</td><td>23</td><td>MIAMI BOUND (NZ) </td><td>Danny O'Brien</td><td>Daniel Moor</td><td>10.55L</td><td>13</td><td>51kg</td><td></td><td>$41</td></tr> <tr><td>15</td><td>4</td><td>MASTER OF REALITY (IRE) </td><td>Joseph O'Brien</td><td>Ben Melham</td><td>10.75L</td><td>11</td><td>56kg</td><td></td><td>$19</td></tr> <tr><td>16</td><td>16</td><td>STEEL PRINCE (IRE) </td><td>Anthony & Sam Freedman</td><td>William Pike</td><td>10.95L</td><td>20</td><td>53.5kg</td><td>1.0kg</td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>17</td><td>20</td><td>ETAH JAMES (NZ) </td><td>Ciaron Maher & David Eustace</td><td>Billy Egan</td><td>12.7L</td><td>21</td><td>52.5kg</td><td></td><td>$101</td></tr> <tr><td>18</td><td>3</td><td>VOW AND DECLARE </td><td>Danny O'Brien</td><td>Jamie Mott</td><td>13.95L</td><td>4</td><td>57kg</td><td></td><td>$61</td></tr> <tr><td>19</td><td>8</td><td>MUSTAJEER (GB) </td><td>Kris Lees</td><td>Michael Rodd</td><td>14.95L</td><td>2</td><td>55kg</td><td></td><td>$101</td></tr> <tr><td>20</td><td>9</td><td>STRATUM ALBION (GB) </td><td>Willie Mullins</td><td>Jordan Childs</td><td>17.95L</td><td>9</td><td>55kg</td><td></td><td>$31</td></tr> <tr><td>21</td><td>10</td><td>DASHING WILLOUGHBY (GB) </td><td>Andrew Balding</td><td>Michael Walker</td><td>19.2L</td><td>18</td><td>54.5kg</td><td></td><td>$101</td></tr> <tr><td>22</td><td>2</td><td>AVILIUS (GB) </td><td>James Cummings</td><td>John Allen</td><td>20.95L</td><td>10</td><td>57kg</td><td></td><td>$61</td></tr> <tr><td>FF</td><td>1</td><td>ANTHONY VAN DYCK (IRE) </td><td>Aidan O'Brien</td><td>Hugh Bowman</td><td></td><td>3</td><td>58.5kg</td><td></td><td>$10</td></tr></tbody></table>
Mark
4th November 2020, 03:09 PM
Just as an aside, and let me first say that I would not give 2 cents for any of the so called racing"experts" that abound. In Sunday's Courier mail there were 14 of these so called racing "experts" who gave their top 3 picks and their best roughie.
Not one of them had the winner.
Besides trying to forecast the weather, they are in one of those strange jobs where you can be consistently wrong and not only keep your job but still have people who refer to their opinions.
And no, I did not give the winner much of a chance.
UselessBettor
10th November 2020, 06:31 PM
walkermac,
Thanks again even if we didn't get the winner.
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