Neural alogorithams

[crash]

Was wondering if any punters has successfuly built a winning platform around this computor system [as seen in AAP site].

Have been messing around with it for some time with a varying degrees of success. So are there any "advanced" users out there who know how to set the various parameaters so that it works profitably ?

Cheers.

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[OZDOC]

Hi Crash,
Had a look at the site, and looking at the data ( my idea of it any way ), I would be tempted to download the data via the download option available.

I would download this with all the settings on setting 1 giving me a standard base.

then after the running of the races for the day you could next to the downloaded data place the results including the divs.

then from this you could duplicate the actions of the neural alog ( you would have this automated to save all the manual work )
this would test all combos for you recording the best setting for that track / distance.
(you would base this on the divs out of a 100% setting the higher the % the better the setting)

after a while you would see a familiar pattern appear for each track / dist ( or should do ) and from this it would give the best setting for each.

the results further placed through a filter will then help eliminate some of the races giving a better strike rate and pot.

probably a bit of work in the early stages but once you had it set up it should be easy to maintain and probably from what i quickly looked at may be a good selection / rating idea.

r
pete

ps you can make your own version of neural alog out of any existing data with a bit of work, by applying your base data as 1 then for each data set adding a X effect to the value of your choice, you would then as above test the data for the best combo per track / dist giving the best option for each.

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[crash]

Thanks Ozdoc, I don't know if you noticed that there is some serious aap forum discussions there about this topic and some good initial settings for various distances.

You may be able to do somthing with them as I have had only mixed results so far due to lack of computer skills.

Was suprised by the response regarding nurals here, maybe a bit advanced [for this lot here, ho ho ho], but there is a fair amount of discussion about them amongst some very serious punters ealsewhere besides aap.

The idea of Nurals itself is great, but would require some skill with stats and computers to do a lot with it. That sort of leaves me out I'm afraid so I was just casting a line and hopeing.

Buying Excel soon and some "how too" discs as I am going to make an effort to lift my game in this area. It cant be that hard.

Cheers.


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[becareful]

:lol:

You crack me up Crash. You cast aspersions on the ability of others in the group because they haven't responded to your query and then admit you don't even know how to use Excel yourself!

Personally I have never used the AAP Neurals and I probably never will as I don't trust "black box" type systems. You are far better off developing your own rating system so that you know how the whole thing works. Sure it takes a lot of time and some decent computer skills (assuming you want to do it on computer) but I don't think you will ever get anywhere plugging a few values into a program that you don't understand and hoping it will magically spit out the winners for you!

[crash]

I'm sure you have been there and done all that already Becareful, so what is your point,one-up-manship ? Your obligitory put-downs are tiresome and hardly worth responding too.

You call my [obvious even to blind freddy] little joke about the lack of response, "aspersions on the ability of others" ?... Get a life !

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[becareful]

Crash,

My obligitory putdowns????

I wasn't the one who said, and I quote:

"maybe a bit advanced for this lot here"

or, in another post

"welcome to the nuthouse"

It seems that you are the one constantly putting other people down. If this is such a nuthouse and none of us are "advanced" enough for you why do you hang around?

[croft]

I think crash was being a bit jocular when referring to the site as the nuthouse. I don't think he meant anything by it.

[crash]

Thanks Croft,

Was starting to think that the only humour recognized here is that which has to be prefaced as such.

So for Becareful sake [and anyone ealse] who mistook my welcome to "HI" in another thread as a put-down, here it is again [in full Becareful] with the be aware warning to cover your eyes and/or hide your kids preface:

The following is a joke: "Abandon all hope ye who enter here ...Welcome to the nuthouse".

The following is [also] a joke: Geez, maybe there was a bit of truth in that welcome [?].

Happy now Becareful?

Also, your "quote" that you attributed to me ["maybe a bit advanced for this lot here"], is one you made up yourself to suit yourself. Out of context [just like the other one] and not even correct as even the most casual observer can plainly see and read. What happened to the brackets [which you moved to suit your purpose of totaly changing the meaning] and the "ho ho ho" that you left out completely because it didn't suit ?
You on an agenda trip Becareful, or on something much stronger ?

Life dosn't have to be so negative as you are doggedly trying to make it [here and ealsewhere, ad nauseam ]. Having a bad run on the punt are we, or beting with "scared" money, hmmm ? Need someone to take it out on do we ?


Cheers.

This post edited several times by the writer for reasonable accuracy [ should be incouraged ].



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[Dale]

Coming from a background of other sport forums it seems the miss understanding which frequent this forum are due in no small part to the lack of emocions and ability to read post you are replying to when you reply to post.

That and the fact that a few people here think this is a place to pat themselves on the back rather than a place to discuss and converse different racing opinions.

Notice i use the word "converse" that means to reply to peoples posts and not just sit back for fear of your opinions being laughed at,speak up people opinions make the world go round.

[Mark]

Little wonder people stop contributing.

[crash]

Your right Dale, it is very easy to stuff things up when replying to posts when you can't see the original.

Not being able to read a post though dosn't excuse lack of accuracy when quoting [it can easily be edited] if the misquote is being used to imply personal and intemperate jibes on what was an innocent thread I stated to discuss "Nurals", not as an oppertunity to push a personal agenda.

Lets have and end to this sort of nonsense, as this sort of stuff only leads to increasing acrimony and even to schism.

Cheers.









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[Dale]

How about those nurals Crash lol.

I think i'd be right in saying the Americans are into them,there must be something about them they like.

I've only ever looked at em out of curiosity but if someone could present a case for using them i'd be prepared to give them a second look.

[umrum]

hey crash. keep the humour coming. it keeps it interesting.

to other forum members:

crash is always sarcastic but funny. get over it. his defined jokes: welcome to the nuthouse - why would anyone take this seriously. its clearly a friendly welcome.

and his other jibe - "a bit advanced for this lot" - why be sucked in. cant believe people fell for it.

cheers umrum

[OZDOC]

Crash, N others,
If of anyone and im sure crash will back me here I should have cause to hold a grudge with crash ( or vice versa ) as i suppose things did get a little heated between us. With that in mind Do we as people hold these grudges in or get over them, For me I can live with Crash, however a good point is put forward in regards all the bickering and most of it is light hearted fun and this should be encouraged, as well collectivly as a group help others with the same goal in mind, I for one admit i do not know there everything there is to know about racing, but i do find that some very helpful and finacially rewarding advice from everyone is shared here. So a bit of fun and a general view to sharing and helping each other sounds good.

Personally i have learnt to try and stay to the topic line rather than get into online bicker is my cup of tea.

Dale,
Nuerals ? yep a funny one Personally i see the concept used as a tool rather than what u can get online, I use my own version of nuerals based on my own data, this can be helpful in many areas for example using ( my version ) i can see perhaps the best barriers per tracks per condition and ability of the horse, this provides a differant angle to just looking at barrier stats for example. this can be applied to all variables and with your own data and realy put a differant angle to your selection process. I'm not saying its a magic solution or the like and it does take some time to get it set up, but from my view it does give me a better rating than previus systems i have tried.

r
pete

[crash]

"Sarcastic" Umrum ? That's a sort of vinegar [vi'niga,noun. sour liquid produced by fermentation of wine, malt liquors etc: fig. sour behaviour or character ] used to make salad dressing isn't it ? You calling me a salad dressing Umrum ? Adding a bit of tang [a bit of ying to balance the yang] to the Forum I guess is what you ment. Ok I can go with that. No offence taken.

Ozdoc, me hold grudges ? Never [did we have a blue ? Well ok if you say so]...just stand over there in front of that plain white background [next to Becareful] and place this apple on top off your head while I dial in the cross hairs of these new sights I bought for my elephant gun. Relax, I never miss the apple.


The nurals are on hold Dale, but I will post some advanced setting for various dis. [soon as I have time to copy them down] that can be used on the AAP site model for anyone wanting to play with them.

As I havn't gone anywhere with nurals, here is the drum instead [to line all your pockets and hopefuly Becareful's too as maybe I was being ...a bit too vinegary in my responses in this thread].

Noel Callow [is HOT].Anything he is on at the moment is worth looking at very carefuly. Had two bets on him yesterday and Callow won on both of them for his only rides of the day: Sandown R/6 Twigum [Hanlon] and R/8 Miss Bombastic [Healey]. Togeather, top odds.
Any ride he has for Ellerton especialy [50% SR combo for the last three months] jump aboard. One ride last Saterday for one win: MV/R3 Dress Code 7.20 Hope everybody can make a buck.

Cheers.



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[puntz]

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[becareful]

On 2003-09-18 07:39, crash wrote:

As I havn't gone anywhere with nurals, here is the drum instead [to line all your pockets and hopefuly Becareful's too as maybe I was being ...a bit too vinegary in my responses in this thread].

Noel Callow [is HOT]. <snip>
Any ride he has for Ellerton especialy [50% SR combo for the last three months] jump aboard.

Gee, thanks for that Crash - you're too kind! Personally I prefer to study the form of the beast that the jockey is riding before I put my money on - but good luck if you just follow riders.

In answer to your earlier question - no I am not having a bad run at the moment. Last 6 weeks my worst result has been a break-even week - last 2 were both over 100% POT so I am actually quite happy at the moment :smile:

But thanks for your concern.

[crash]

Yep Becareful I'm a total moron, I just follow riders [give it a rest mate].

Anyway I'm glad to hear you are having a good trot [better than me you'll be pleased to hear]. It must have been the barometic pressure around your way. It affects fish, so why not us ? [that was a joke by the way in case you missed it. And so was that one].

Cheers.

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[umrum]

i too prefer to follow form but you can do worse than follow jockeys who have already studied the form when accepting the mount.

[umrum]

crash perhaps your laconic rather than sarcastic anyway keep up the salad dressings

[crash]

Have you ever tasted a salad Umrum with a laconic dressing ? Heaven forbid.

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[umrum]

i'm sure the flavour would hit you quickly. a bit like you crash.

[becareful]

On 2003-09-18 11:11, crash wrote:
It must have been the barometic pressure around your way. It affects fish, so why not us ?

What fish are affected by barometric pressure? I know they are affected by hydrostatic pressure (ie. the water pressure) but didn't know they were affected by barometric pressure (ie. air pressure). :wink:

All this talk of fish and salad is making me hungry.
_________________
"Computers can do that????" - Homer Simpson

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[crusher]

I have not played around with the neurals myself but recently replied to an advertisement in Sportsman about a Form Finder Report, which is a guy selling his imformation on how to use the neurals and stake the bets also which requires the use of Excel.
I am not sure of his success, but feel there is some chance, that for a fraction of the time of doing your own ratings that you could come up with something reasonable from the neurals.

[crash]

Now that is a tricky one Becareful.

Have been a keen Fly Fisherman for most of my life around the Monaro high plains and eight years in New Zealand as a p/t Fly Fishing Jorno/Photographer [the ed. sorted my spelling, what ealse are they good for they can't write to save their life] for "New Zealand Fly Fisher" and a couple of yarns for "Aust. Fishing World".
I had a small property in the Sth. Island and a Cutom built Fly rod buiness, "Custom Rod Art".
You could say I have dabbled and played with the fish some what.

Studied a lot of etimology but the poser about the Hydrology [is it an exclusive re pressure] has got me thinking and responding with care.

I might get back to you on that one after the W/end as we are off to a bike rally tomorrow at Bombala in the Monaro.

ps. Callow has been making me rich today.

Cheers.

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[becareful]

On 2003-09-18 16:06, crash wrote:
I might get back to you on that one after the W/end as we are off to a bike rally tomorrow at Bombala in the Monaro.



I am almost afraid to ask but what sort of bike to you ride?

[crash]

Becareful,

No, not a Harley [had a 42' war issue Harley in WA with the three speed gear lever on the side of the tank about thirty years ago, pre chardonay sipping yuppies].
Harleys are for "Yuppie Bros". More likly to meet your Bank Manager on one of those than a Hells Angel.

Have a European Harley. a Moto Guzzie 98' 1100cc cruiser. Leave a Harley for dead in any area. HD stole the Guzzie eagle emblem belonging to two WW2 italian airforce engineers who used their air force wings as the Guzzie emblem when they went into business.
My Wife is into Jap. retro and rides an 81' fully restored [by yours truely] Z750cc Kwaka go fast with purple livery and the name "Betty Blue" !
We belong to the Ulysses Club for over 50's [she is 38yrs and only an associate memb. until she is 50yrs]. "Growing old disgracefuly" is our motto.
Mostly we do fund raising for the arthritis foundation and childrens hospitals and try to scare people to death [just like I have so much fun trying to do here].

Most of the bucks from the big Bombala thing go to their local Hospital so imperative we go and spend up what we can afford up there.With all the saw mills closed or closeing up that way [had to happen] they need the dosh.

Cheers.

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[becareful]

Oh Crash. Here I was getting all ready for an anti-Harley post and you spoilt my fun. I used to own a BMW K100RS myself (until the kids came along - now I have to make do with a Ford Capri for a few years until either the kids grow up or I get rich enough to justify having a car and a bike in the garage!)

Keep the rubber side down and have a great weekend - should be some nice weather for you if the bureau has it right. :cool:

[crash]

Nice old bus that beemer. Had a R60 that was a great tourer.

Well I gave you lot the drum didn't I ?

Hope I wasn't the only one making hay on Callow's 4 wins and 2 places from 6 rides today and 2 wins from 2 rides yesterday.

Cheers.

[OZDOC]

Crash, ( And Others )
Yell out if you need a hand with Excel... Before you line me up with that arrow ( Just Incase you do miss )

R
Pete

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[crash]

Crusher,

I wouldn't pay for any Nural advice [sounds medical] as the Nural engine on the AAP site is a good one.

If you go to their forum you will find under advaced topics [I think] a large forum just on the subject with settings discussed too. It would be as good as anything you would get by paying for the info [probably flinched weekly from the AAP site anyway].

Ozdoc is it better to buy Excel by download [cheaper] or discs ?

Back on Monday [hopefuly].

Cheers.

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[enjay]

I will stick my neck out here and hope I do not cruel myself. I have been making regular and good profits from a method I picked up on this forum some time back. I use Price Predictor to get the original qualifiers then check them out to see if they are top Neural selections..
Lets see how we go this next few days.

Enjay
SYSTEM SELECTOR REPORT FOR: NEURALS 20/09/2003-22/09/2003
Created by Price Predictor at 20:25:59 on 18/09/2003

NEURALS: 21/09/2003 SUNSHINE COAST
XR 6 # 4 6572 PITCH BLACK 20/1BET
XR 7 # 1 5122 MASTER CHARLIE 13/4BET
NEURALS: 21/09/2003 MILDURA
XR 2 # 1 77x3 ESQUILAX 5/4BET

NEURALS: 21/09/2003 GAWLER
XR 4 # 3 0235 LITTLE MISS CINDY 20/1
NEURALS: 21/09/2003 ECHUCA

NEURALS: 20/09/2003 TOOWOOMBA
XR 2 # 5 5623 TRUSCAN 5/1
XR 3 # 6 4452 KULAK 7/2BET
XR 3 #10 80x7 KENSO COWBOY 60/1
XR 4 # 6 7736 HEY BANJO 40/1
XR 4 # 8 9901 TUCKERMAN 13/1
XR 7 # 4 9x84 BOASTING 10/1
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 ROSEHILL
SR 1 # 2 9968 KREISLER MIRAGE 40/1BET
SR 1 # 3 x005 BEAVER 40/1
SR 2 # 1 6207 MASKERADO 5/1BET
SR 2 # 7 5843 INTERBANK 12/1
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 KEMBLA GRANGE
XR 1 # 3 2324 STYLISH BUTTERFLY 16/1
XR 4 #16 7558 KEELEY CHARO 40/1BET
XR 5 # 5 4471 GEEMTEE 20/1
XR 6 # 7 x633 LATE WHISPER 70/1
XR 7 # 4 1263 RICH COVER 20/1BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 KALGOORLIE
XR 5 # 8 5072 TWINFIM 13/1
XR 6 # 1 2x42 AL SALIL 9/2BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 GOLD COAST
XR 1 # 2 0531 SWEET INNOCENCE 15/8
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 EAGLE FARM
BR 1 # 1 1338 EYES FOREVER 25/1BET
BR 1 # 5 5070 BILLY CART HILL 20/1
BR 3 # 6 3064 TALBINGO LAD 13/1
BR 8 # 3 x523 STAR OF TELESTO 25/1
BR 8 #12 9457 RUFUS EM 15/1
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 CHELTENHAM
AR 5 # 8 x462 SPIKEADAN 60/1
AR 7 # 5 x315 AMBERLIGHT 11/2BET


Test Duration = 00:00:05

[enjay]

Here is an easier version.
Enjay

NEURALS: 21/09/2003 SUNSHINE COAST
XR 6 # 4 6572 PITCH BLACK 20/1BET
XR 7 # 1 5122 MASTER CHARLIE 13/4BET
NEURALS: 21/09/2003 MILDURA
XR 2 # 1 77x3 ESQUILAX 5/4BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 TOOWOOMBA
XR 3 # 6 4452 KULAK 7/2BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 ROSEHILL
SR 1 # 2 9968 KREISLER MIRAGE 40/1BET
SR 2 # 1 6207 MASKERADO 5/1BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 KEMBLA GRANGE
XR 4 #16 7558 KEELEY CHARO 40/1BET
XR 7 # 4 1263 RICH COVER 20/1BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 KALGOORLIE
XR 6 # 1 2x42 AL SALIL 9/2BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 GOLD COAST
XR 1 # 2 0531 SWEET INNOCENCE 15/8
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 EAGLE FARM
BR 1 # 1 1338 EYES FOREVER 25/1BET
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 CHELTENHAM
AR 7 # 5 x315 AMBERLIGHT 11/2BET

[OZDOC]

Crash,
Personal Preferance Only, I would buy Excel as part of an overal Office disk, say office 2000 profesional as its better value, as you would get access ( or should do ) and other applications included. i do believe a new version is due out soon ?

or you can just buy it as stand alone cheaper

But with the disk i can reload it at any time or change settings not sure about a downloadable version ( i never knew it could be done this way, must be livin in a shell )

fire me a blank email on

peteryoung@iprimusREMOVEME.com.au

and i send some info

R
Pete

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[puntz]

I have just started to try out openoffice

http://www.openoffice.org

It's free and does just about as much as excel. Have not figured out the datbase yet, but it's integrated all in one.And it can open excel sheets.
Big download, about 72Mb.

[becareful]

Ozdoc/Crash,

The "download" I think Crash is referring to is almost certainly illegal software - MS does not distribute in this way so I would avoid it. Current version of Office is Office XP (also called 2002) - a new version is due in a month or two called Office 2003 (I think).

Puntz,

Good luck with the database in Openoffice! As far as I know it doesn't have a full database like Access but some tools that allow you to manipulate DBF files or SQL databases (or other ODBC compliant databases). I haven't used these tools but I have been told they are not the best for beginners!

But if you only need a spreadsheet and Word processor then Openoffice is a viable alternative - I believe one of the computer mags has it on their free CD this month if you want to save yourself the big download.

[Merriguy]

Enjay,

Are your prices the minimum you would accept about these picks?

[enjay]

Merriguy.
No they are simply prices as nominated by Price Predictor., All I do is back them if they are No,1 on the Neurals and normall setting.....
Enjay

[Merriguy]

Thanks, Enjay. Appreciated. Good luck today.

[Chrome Prince]

On 2003-09-20 01:18, puntz wrote:
I have just started to try out openoffice

http://www.openoffice.org

It's free and does just about as much as excel. Have not figured out the datbase yet, but it's integrated all in one.And it can open excel sheets.
Big download, about 72Mb.



Hi puntz,

after you explore the database side of things, could you give me some feedback on your initial impressions and ease of use etc...if you wouldn't mind.

Thanks.

[enjay]

Result of my Neural selections.
All figures quoted are NSW Tab.
NEURALS: 21/09/2003 SUNSHINE COAST
XR 6 # 4 6572 PITCH BLACK 20/1BEt no good
XR 7 # 1 5122 MASTER CHARLIE 13/4BET win 2.10
NEURALS: 21/09/2003 MILDURA
XR 2 # 1 77x3 ESQUILAX 5/4BET no good
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 TOOWOOMBA
XR 3 # 6 4452 KULAK 7/2BET win 3.70
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 ROSEHILL
SR 1 # 2 9968 KREISLER MIRAGE 40/1BET 2nd 8.9
SR 2 # 1 6207 MASKERADO 5/1BET 2nd 2.00
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 KEMBLA GRANGE
XR 4 #16 7558 KEELEY CHARO 40/1BET no good xxx
XR 7 # 4 1263 RICH COVER 20/1BET win 4.40
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 GOLD COAST
XR 1 # 2 0531 SWEET INNOCENCE 15/8 bet 2nd 1.80
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 EAGLE FARM
BR 1 # 1 1338 EYES FOREVER 25/1BET 3rd 1.30
NEURALS: 20/09/2003 CHELTENHAM
AR 7 # 5 x315 AMBERLIGHT 11/2BET 2nd 2.00

Small LOT at level stakes.
OK for place but I am win only...

Enjay

[kenchar]

Management,
I posted an offer on this thread for OFFICE XP for free and was deleted. WHY?

[crash]

Kenchar, I think the offer was illegal and the site owners were covering themselves from litigious claims[?]. Thanks anyway.

Thanks everybody for the info on excl. will wait for the new 2003 version soon to be released [in the hope that it is the easiest to use so far].

Nural settings: cf3,ja2,ta1,jt1,dis1,dlr0 for races over 1550m dlr5. SR 60% [from top three selections].

Some hadicapping on the top three and removing the usual maidens and 2yr.olds should produce a much higher SR.

Lets see how this lot go today [without hadicapping].

Sale
r5/7,5,9. 7 win 2.10 9 pl.
r6/2,9,1.
r7/2,1,3. 2 win 4.20 [tri. in three]
r8/15,5,3. 3 and 5 pl.

Bath.
r5/7,5,9. 9 pl.
r6/2,9,1. 1 pl.
r7/6,5,1. 6 pl.
r8/3,2,8. 8 pl.

Muss.
r5/2,1,8. 8 pl.
r6/6,3,2. 6 and 2 pl.
r7/4,1,8. 8 win 13.80 [tri in three]
r8/1,10,3. 3 pl.

Not hot [ Monday races ? ], but there were more than a few big priced bolters getting the money [one at $87 ]. Have to look again on Wed.

Cheers.

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[Moderator 1]

Kenchar,

The post was removed as it did appear to be offering free copies of Microsoft software which would be illegal. If it is a genuine offer that would not breach the Microsoft terms of use then you can repost (but please include more detail).

[enjay]

CRASH.
What do you put the other settings on to ??? for your workouts.
Thanks in advance.
Enjay

[crash]

Enjay,

The other settings stay where they are.

[kenchar]

Hi Crash,
Been watching today,wouldnt change your settings if I was you.
Good onya interesting s***
Cheers

[kenchar]

Moderator 1,
I dont think 5 or 10 copies of OFFICE XP would worry Bill Gates,probably only pay for His dogs lunch.
Cheers

[enjay]

G'day Crash.
I must have missed something here. When I go to neurals, all settings (except one) are set on 3 . If I change the 6 settings you recommend and leave the others where they are, I do not get the same selections you have posted.????Can you let me know where I have gone wrong. ??
Regards Enjay

[Dale]

On 2003-09-22 18:15, kenchar wrote:
Moderator 1,
I dont think 5 or 10 copies of OFFICE XP would worry Bill Gates,probably only pay for His dogs lunch.
Cheers


Hi Kenchar i got a copy of office xp because i wanted to use ozdocs excell applications but excell wont install,something about a cabinet file.

If you can help me out i can be contacted at- daletewes@austarnet.com.au

[crash]

Enjay,

From top to bottom [yesterday] as a general setting:
0,3,0,2, 1,1,0,0,0,2,0,0.

Leave out below class 3 races, 2yr. olds, fillies and mares, hurdles. I personely also leave out 1000m [or less] races.

Other settings you might like to play with:
Up to 1450m. 3422 1110 1131
1451m to 1850m. 3322 1100 1130
1851m to 2450m. 3320 0000 2120

There seems to be some great claims re. tri's [two from yesterday's results].

Cheers.

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[kenchar]

On 2003-09-23 07:38, Dale wrote:
[quote]
On 2003-09-22 18:15, kenchar wrote:
Moderator 1,
I dont think 5 or 10 copies of OFFICE XP would worry Bill Gates,probably only pay for His dogs lunch.
Cheers


Hi Kenchar i got a copy of office xp because i wanted to use ozdocs excell applications but excell wont install,something about a cabinet file.

If you can help me out i can be contacted at- daletewes@austarnet.com.au

Sorry Dale cant help here maybe one of the comp experts on the forum can

Cheers

[Dale]

Kenchar,i wasn't asking for the solution,i was asking for your offer.

[kenchar]

Dale,
Email sent
Cheers

[enjay]

Hi Crash.
I am starting to feel like an idiot, but I cannot get your settings to work.???
Sale race 5 when I input 0,3,0,2,1,1,0,0,0,2,0,0
Iget the selections 6-10-1
Race 6 I get 2-11-5
I cannot get your other selectons to agree either.
I am bald not blonde. Please help, I am really interested...

[puntz]

Chrome Prince:

y
for anyone that might be interested.
http://www.openoffice.org






update on db.
it can only get better.

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[Chrome Prince]

Thanks for the reply puntz.

If you can let us know about the database side of it later that'd be great.

Thanks.

[crash]

Enjay,

Can't work out where you are going wrong.

Worth a new try. I am useing the new numbers here [havn't tried them yet], so remember to change the settings for distances. You should get the same numbers [don't forget to press reset].

Let me know if you get these numbers.

Canterbury:
r1/2 1 4 8. 2 win 2.40
r2/1 7 3 5. 3 win 4.10
r4/1 3 7 10.3 win 3.50
r5/1 3 2 4. 1 win 5.20
r6/1 6 2 3. [nil but it was a transitional]
r7/2 4 5 7. 2 win 5.80
r8/3 5 6 7. 5 win 6.30

Not a bad result with all winners from the first 2 selections except one.

Race 3 was a maiden.

Cheers.

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