Melbourne Cup early tips

[Shaun]

Grey Song for my money....will win by lengths

[xptdriver]

I had to change my original ideas.. I still like Makybe Diva, Mummifyand Hug's Dancer but i thought Bodie was still live hope for the cup it would have been my pick but I don't see it on the 2nd decs list from racing victoria..
Good Luck and Good Punting
xptdriver
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[stebbo]

Grey Song was arguably the run of the race in the CC, but I think Makybe Diva was the quiet achiever, and is my pick for the cup.

Cheers,
Chris.

[Raw Instinct]

One horse which is being forgotten byu alot of people very quickly is Honor Babe and seriously could be ridiculos odds come cup day. Don't take any notice of it's run in the Caufield Cup I gave it no hope of winning that race and here is the reason why.


It has now had 2 runs at Caufield this prep and they have both been substandard runs compared to its others at Flemington particularly. I don't think the horse can handle Caufield it is to tight of a track both of its runs have been identical there been there with a chance but just couldn't get going.


The horse likes Flemington and has rattled off some amazing sectionals there and it can run the distance all be it at a slightly lesser level if you liked this horse there is no reason not to now and at 20 or 30-1 I think there is a whole lot more to like about it.

[Paddy]

MUMMIFY has been given a 2.5kg penalty, now to carry 55kg in the Cup.

Also FRIGHTENING penalised 1kg, now to carry 50kg in the Cup.

[umrum]

On 2003-10-20 11:11, stebbo wrote:
Grey Song was arguably the run of the race in the CC, but I think Makybe Diva was the quiet achiever, and is my pick for the cup.

Cheers,
Chris.


its equal favourite so not that quiet really.

i like mamool, makybe, maybe hugs who knows yet strasbourg i think is a dead set 2 miler so wasnt surprised with his run though would have liked him top finish closer

[Raw Instinct]

As for Frightening I like the horse I like wheher he is upto the Cup standard or can runout 2 miles for that matter is another thing. I also heard he would have to win the Moonee Valley Cup to Qualify it was sort of why I was looking for the order of acceptances for the cup he would need alot of luck to get in without winning the Moonee Valley Cup.

[Paddy]

Current order of entry (those that have passed the 1st balloting clause:

1 Vinnie Roe (Dermot Weld)
2 Mummify (Lee Freedman)
3 Sunday Joy (Gai Waterhouse)
4 Helenus (Bart Cummings)
5 Mamool (IRE) (Saeed Bin Suroor)
6 Shower of Roses (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse)
7 Jardines Lookout (IRE) (Alan Jarvis)
8 Millstreet (GB) (Saeed Bin Suroor)
9 Honor Babe (NZ) (Katrina Alexander)
10 Zagalia (NZ) (Clarry Conners)
11 Pentastic (David Hall)
12 Hail (NZ) (Bruce Marsh)
13 Makybe Diva (GB) (David Hall)
14 Mr. Prudent (George Hanlon)
15 County Tyrone (Kris Lees)
16 Strasbourg (Bart Cummings)
17 Holy Orders (IRE) (W P Mullins) #
18 Distinctly Secret (NZ) (Mark Walker)
19 She's Archie (Darren Weir)
20 Hugs Dancer (FR) (James Given)
21 Vicksburg (Mark Minervini)
22 Ain't Seen Nothin' (Barbara Joseph)
23 Yakama (Bevan Laming)
24 Mr American Gothic (GB) (Michael Moroney)
25 Schumpeter (Peter G Moody)
26 Boyd (Doug Harrison)
27 Debben (Leon Macdonald)
28 Grey Song (Tommy Hughes)
29 Piachay (NZ) (David Hall)
30 Tumeric (Lee Freedman)
31 Oarsman (NZ) (Paul Duncan)
32 Sir Pentire (NZ) (Robbie Laing)
33 Fawaz (Graeme Rogerson)
34 Hy Fuji (Gary Portelli)
35 Bold Bard (Bryce Stanaway)
36 Daneborogh (Bart Cummings)
37 Bondi Iceberg (Tony Wildman)
38 Ascana (Louise Bonella)
39 The Mighty Lions (NZ) (Michael Moroney)
40 Backstreet Boy (Peter Morgan)
41 Big Pat (Robbie Griffiths)

Exempt from ballot - COX PLATE winner & 1st / 2nd in the SAAB QUALITY.

[Paddy]

NSWTAB Fixed Odds:

Prices at: 10:23:39, 20 Oct 2003

No. Selection Win Place
251 Mamool $6.50 $2.35
275 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
163 Distinctly Secret $8.00 $2.75
250 Makybe Diva $8.00 $2.75
192 Grey Song $10.00 $3.25
375 Zagalia $10.00 $3.25
206 Honor Babe $15.00 $4.50
209 Hugs Dancer $15.00 $4.50
293 Pentastic $17.00 $5.00
337 Strasbourg $17.00 $5.00
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $26.00 $7.25
213 In Time's Eye $26.00 $7.25
272 Mr. Prudent $26.00 $7.25
323 Shower of Roses $26.00 $7.25
364 Vinnie Roe $26.00 $7.25
219 Jardines Lookout $34.00 $9.25
260 Millstreet $34.00 $9.25
152 Daneborogh $51.00 $13.50
171 Fawaz $51.00 $13.50
195 Hail $51.00 $13.50
235 Legible $51.00 $13.50
299 Platinum Scissors $51.00 $13.50
340 Sunday Joy $51.00 $13.50
358 Tumeric $51.00 $13.50
381 Holy Orders $51.00 $13.50
147 County Tyrone $67.00 $17.50
177 Frightening $67.00 $17.50
269 Mr American Gothic $67.00 $17.50
286 Oarsman $67.00 $17.50
296 Piachay $67.00 $17.50
314 Rose Archway $67.00 $17.50
363 Vicksburg $67.00 $17.50
373 Yakama $67.00 $17.50
190 Grand Armee $101.00 $26.00
179 Galante $126.00 $32.25
318 Schumpeter $126.00 $32.25
321 She's Archie $126.00 $32.25
351 Thurman $126.00 $32.25
115 Big Pat $151.00 $38.50
157 Debben $151.00 $38.50
276 My Chanticleer $151.00 $38.50
327 Sir Pentire $151.00 $38.50
330 So Assertive $151.00 $38.50
158 Delvecchio $201.00 $51.00
289 Out of Options $201.00 $51.00
316 Sabino Canyon $201.00 $51.00
350 The Mighty Lions $201.00 $51.00
353 Tomorrow's Party $201.00 $51.00
362 Vega Sicilia $201.00 $51.00
105 Ascana $251.00 $63.50
107 Backstreet Boy $251.00 $63.50
108 Badger's Wood $251.00 $63.50
121 Bold Bard $251.00 $63.50
122 Bondi Iceberg $251.00 $63.50
183 Gentle Genius $251.00 $63.50
210 Hy Fuji $251.00 $63.50
261 Milzeel $251.00 $63.50
281 Navy Blue $251.00 $63.50
290 Pagano $251.00 $63.50
164 Domineer Prince $301.00 $76.00
169 Extolling Virtue $301.00 $76.00
228 Kindana $301.00 $76.00
237 Lexitaw $301.00 $76.00
200 Helenus Eliminated Eliminated

[umrum]

i've got a feeling the mv cup is a non qualifying race.

[Matilda]

I like the comment by Raw Instinct. I have put Honor babe, Grey Song, Strasbourg and Makybe Diva as my early pick.

[Wexford]

HUG'S DANCER
Distincly Secret
Daneborough

[Raw Instinct]

Umrum I might be wrong there and I could be wrong with what I am going to say here that I believe it is the race which qualified Brew for the cup a couple of years back.

[umrum]

On 2003-10-20 19:59, Raw Instinct wrote:
Umrum I might be wrong there and I could be wrong with what I am going to say here that I believe it is the race which qualified Brew for the cup a couple of years back.


i could be wrong R.I but i think brew qualified through the 2500metre Saab quality at flemington on derby day. I think yippyio won the mv cup that year.

cheers

[Raw Instinct]

Actually now that you say it you very well might be right it sounds very familiar cause off memory I backed Brew in the M V Cup and a friend backed Yippyio and i vaguely remember he won.


I have just sat down and listened to racing retro and on there Joe McKinnon said to Alf Mathews that Bart would have to run Frightening in the M V Cup to qualify him and then Alf returned to say the horse wouldn't run 2 mile down a well.

[Raw Instinct]

As far as Frightening goes I personally think that it is a better horse than Rogan Josh it won the cup I think it was lucky but it got there. Obviously Bart knows how to get horses right for that one race because if it weren't for him Rogan Josh would never have even made the field let alone won the race. Just my opinion ofcourse.

[Rogan Josh]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TESTAROSSA]

On 2003-10-20 20:25, Raw Instinct wrote:
Obviously Bart knows how to get horses right for that one race because if it weren't for him Rogan Josh would never have even made the field let alone won the race. Just my opinion ofcourse.


A horse doesn't finish 4th in a Caulfield Cup, Win the Mackinnon as well as the Melbourne Cup and fluke it.

[umrum]

On 2003-10-21 17:40, TESTAROSSA wrote:

On 2003-10-20 20:25, Raw Instinct wrote:
Obviously Bart knows how to get horses right for that one race because if it weren't for him Rogan Josh would never have even made the field let alone won the race. Just my opinion ofcourse.
he was a good thing beat in the CC too. munce slaughtered him

A horse doesn't finish 4th in a Caulfield Cup, Win the Mackinnon as well as the Melbourne Cup and fluke it.

[Raw Instinct]

Like I said it was my opinion I didn't rate the horse never did and never will I know it didn't show to much after the cup. Ofcourse this is to long ago for my poor head to remember properly.

[jarred]

ZAGALIA RAN A HUGE RACE IN CC MY TIP FOR MC

[Seeker11]

I reckon that GREY SONG, HUGS DANCER, MUMMIFY, DISTINCTLY SECRET, MAKYBE DIVA, ZAGALIA and if it makes the cut, YAKAMA as my longshot.

[umrum]

On 2003-10-22 14:25, Seeker11 wrote:
I reckon that GREY SONG, HUGS DANCER, MUMMIFY, DISTINCTLY SECRET, MAKYBE DIVA, ZAGALIA and if it makes the cut, YAKAMA as my longshot.

d secret no chance of running out 3200 metres

[Raw Instinct]

Umrum Distinctly Secret maynot run a strong 3200m but this field doesn't look to be anything special if he can reproduce the run from last year he could win this or atleast be in the placing.

[umrum]

On 2003-10-22 18:21, Raw Instinct wrote:
Umrum Distinctly Secret maynot run a strong 3200m but this field doesn't look to be anything special if he can reproduce the run from last year he could win this or atleast be in the placing.

caufield cup field wasnt that flash either.
be wary of him i dont think he even rab=n out the 2400 metres all that strongly
cheers

[Raw Instinct]

I agree the Caufield Cup wasn't real strong and he certainly had every chance of winning the race had the great barrier and the great run to so I guess there has to be doubts there but I wouldn't write him off.

[Tab Hunter]

Now that Mummify has been penalized, he carries too much weight to win. So Distictly Secret is now a special, from Rose Archway, and the previous certainty, Mummify still strong in third. Next comes Shower of Roses, then who cares!

[umrum]

On 2003-10-22 23:52, Tab Hunter wrote:
Now that Mummify has been penalized, he carries too much weight to win. So Distictly Secret is now a special, from Rose Archway, and the previous certainty, Mummify still strong in third. Next comes Shower of Roses, then who cares!


you will do your dough tab hunter. he wont run the trip.

strasbourg is the 2 miler then grey song, mummify and makybe diva. hugs dancer and mamool must be included.

get on clangalang this week

[Paddy]

Thought a great run by Tumeric, in the Geelong Cup during the week.

Carrying 58kg - from a horror draw in gate 17 - sat at least four deep for most of the journey & still managed to finish third behind all-the-way winner Zazzman.

Drops 7kg to 51kg in the Melbourne Cup and remember this fellow did win last January's Perth Cup (3200m) by a convincing 3 lengths.

[Raw Instinct]

Does anyone know if the win by Frightening yesterday puts him in with any better chance of making the cup at all I noticed he is in to 11-1 which is awfully I feel.

I am happy anyway took a double with Fields of Omagh to Honor Babe for the cup was paying $380 and I put $5 on it so I guess you can say I am hoping for the Babe to get up.

[Chuck]

Raw Instinct wrote:
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I am happy anyway took a double with Fields of Omagh to Honor Babe for the cup was paying $380 and I put $5 on it so I guess you can say I am hoping for the Babe to get up.
(/quote)
I did that too with $1 at $260...but still...go the babe