Start of AUTUMN TIPPING COMP. Sat. 21.2.04

[crash]

All welcome.

Rules:

[1] 5 operating races on a Saturday

[2] Any state, any meeting

[3] Win only

[4] $50 dollars max for day [$10 per. race].

[5] Uni-tab prices.
[ prices can be checked at AAP site: http://www.aapracingandsport.com.au ]

[6]You can have multiple runners in a race but must be win only i.e Lonhro 5 wins, Freemason 3 wins, Clangalang 2 wins.

[7] A nominated best bet of $20 allowed with $10 each on 3 other races.

[8] Late scratchings amount added to next weeks betting amount.

[9] Closing time for alterations is by official starting time of earliest tip's race.

[10] Missed weeks from comp. = minus $50 per week after more than 1 week [ allows for unexpected absence without penalty ].
In fairness to players who started at the beginning of comp., this rule applies to late starters too.


* note: Just clarifying the best bet $20 optional. So you can have 4 races with 1 race@ $20 outright for a best bet and three $10 bets for 3 races(50 total) or 5 x $10 bets(50 total)

Good luck.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-20 08:59 ]</font>

[crash]

I'll kick it off.

All bet's $10 win. and in Melb.

R1/4 Danamour.
R4/2 Sweetcorn.
R6/12 Halibury.
R8/5 Bird Dancer.
R9/7 Dane again. Win 2.40

OL $50 Collect $24 LOT $26

Cheers and good luck everyone.


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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-22 07:26 ]</font>

[easy pick]

would you like an internal investegation for the correct results?????

did i get rule 590 right? lol. easy.

[sportznut]

You're tipping pretty early Crash. Sure you don't want any more time to study the form or do you think that'll just confuse you?

[Wexford]

Perth Races

Race 4 RAVE
Race 5 MR SANDGROPER
Race 6 SUAVE LADY
Race 7 EARLY EXPRESS
Race 8 CONDITION

[william]

All $10 Win

MR2- 2-Keep the Faith-FIRST-($1.40)
MR5- 1-Lonhro-FIRST-($1.40)
MR7- 6-Alinghi-FIRST-($2.00)
MR9- 1-Lord Volksraad-SECOND-NTD
AR5- 9-Silken Song-UNPLACED-NTD

RESULTS-WEEK-1-21/2/04

FIRST-3
SECONDS-1
UNP-1
SCR-0

INVEST-$50.00
RETURN-$48.00
LOSS-$2.00

UNI-TAB DIVS

Regards
William



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[nevets]

OK IM IN
M2 ..6+7 $5
S2...1
S5...5+10 $5
B2...7
B4...4+7 $5

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[sportznut]

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-20 17:00 ]</font>

[crash]

Sports and Easy.

The rules are BASIC: 5 tips x $10 each or 1x$20 and 3x$10 [$10 tips can be broken up between more than one runner ], Uni-tab prices.

Rule 11. Check your egos at the door, or better still, put up your tips [ the forms been available since Wed. on some sites ].

Regards.

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[easy pick]

crash
my ego and tips will be presented after scratchings are presented on the race day? i just thought that was the logical thing to do. take it easy...

[sportznut]

Crash,

I wasn't having a go at you or anything. I just thought Friday morning seemed a little bit early to put tips in when you don't know the scratchings or anything. But if you're confident enough of your selections, then good on you, and I see a few others have put their tips in early as well.

Personally, I haven't properly studied tomorrow's races yet and I won't until tonight.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-20 17:06 ]</font>

[INTERGAZE]

!!settle petal!!
MR 4-9 Scarlet Ruby $10
MR 5-6 The jewel $5
-8 Sound Action $5
MR 6-6 Blur $5
-1 Super Elegant $5
MR 7-3 Squad $10
MR 8-4 Regal Roller $10


_________________
straight to the rails....

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: INTERGAZE on 2004-02-20 16:58 ]</font>

[crash]

Sports,

I shouldn't have to explain why my tips are early, but considering your concern, the reason is we have several people [ non-racers ] staying with us from tonight for the w/end. We have a big Jazz Festival on from tonight [ Don Burrows lives here, so it is BIG ! ].

If I get scratchings, I'll use the dosh next week.

Cheers.

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[Seeker11]

Hi y'all

My tips all 10 win

MR 6 No.6 Blur

SR 1 No.3 Mustabshir 4th
SR 5 No.2 Terrific Taurus 4th

Br 3 No.6 Fashon Jewels 3rd

AR 6 No.7 Golden Swirl 2nd

Normaly don't have computer access on weekends but due to Bris weather and scratchings I have made a special effort

Shouldn't have bothered as my scrathings would have saved me $15.

Outlay $50
Return $0
Profit -$50

Not a great start.

PS when I did edit my selections on the Sat morning the post was 10 mins fast also.

_________________
may the horse be with you

Seeker

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[Raw Instinct]

Sydney

Race 4: #4 Fastnet Rock $10
Race 7: #7 Patezza $10

Melbourne

Race 4: #6 Royal Sash $10
Race 7: #7 World Peace $10
Race 9: #2 Arena Valadora $10

[umrum]

here goes:

Sr7 Patezza $20* best bet
Mr 5 Sound Action 10 wins
Pr7 Corporate Bruce 5 wins
Siesta Bay 5 wins
Mr9 Lord Volksraad 10 wins

Cheers
Umrum

[canecutter69]

my tips
Bris R6 H15 $20 BB
Syd R2 H3 $10
Melb R2 H3 $10
Melb R8 H8 $10

[leigh]

My tips all $10 each
SR 3 5-Nasrulla King
BR 4 8 Regal Punch
BR 5 6 Chocolate Starfish
MR 4 6 Royal Sash
AR 2 1 All Black Symphony

All the best Leigh

[william]

On 2004-02-20 07:22, crash wrote:

I'll kick it off.

All bet's $10 win. and in Melb.

R1/1 Le Bucheron
R3/1 Special Harmony
R4/2 Sweetcorn
R6/12 Halibury
R8/5 Bird Dancer

Cheers.
Hi crash how are you ...Just keeping an eye on your tips :smile:..MR1-6-Le Bucheron...MR1-1-Longyard...Confirmation...
Regards
Will


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[puntz]

SR 5: 1 (WIN)
SR 6: 13 (2ND)

MR 7: 1 (blip)

AR 4: 3 (blip)

BR 7: 10 (2ND)




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2004-02-22 01:58 ]</font>

$10 WIN

MR1 N1 LONGYARD
MR4 N2 SWEET CORN
MR6 N4 TRUE GLO
MR7 N11 ONE WORLD
MR8 N1 PATERNAL

[Shaun]

SR5 /4- STRANGE CONFLICT
MR5 /3- PENTASTIC
MR6 /4- TRUE GLO/5- REACTIVE $5 win each
MR7 /2- WAY WEST
MR8 /6- HARLEY MA

[muggzy]

Syd R1.8.$10
Melb R5.6.$10
Melb R7.11.$20.BB
GCoast R8.4.$10

[crash]

Thanks Will,

Visitors finally in bed ! Thought I would sneak an hour on some form and drop in here.
Will do an edit and put the numbers right on my tips. Thanks again and good luck.

ps. Changed a couple of my tips after seeing the price on Le Bucheron this morning. Special Harmony won't be much better so going for value, what the hell.



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[bruce]

Sydney Race 5 Tab 1 Restless--$10
Melbourne Race 6 Tab 6 Blur--$10
Melbourne Race 5 Tab 8 Sound Action--$10
Kembla Grange Race 6 Tab 3 Sea Search--$20

[storm]

$10 each, all in Melb

R4 N6 Royal Sash
R6 N6 Blur
R7 N6 Alinghi
R8 N2 Regicide
R9 N7 Dane Again

[Tatouche]

OK I'll have a go.

Rosehill
5/ 3 Majestically
7/ 7 Patezza
8/ 5 Mustard

Caulfield
4/ 6 Royal Sash
7/ 6 Alinghi

Tatouche

[Rogueman]

Sydney

Race 6: Recurring $10
Race 7: Victory Vein $10

Melbourne

Race 6: Blur $10
race 7: Alinghi $10

Adelaide

Race 4: Aquiver $10

[TESTAROSSA]

Hi all,

MR7 (6) Alinghi $20 BB.
MR9 (1) Lord Volksraad $10.
SR7 (1) Victory Vein.
SR8 (2) Only Glory.

Cheers.

[easy pick]

OK UMRUM
ALL $10 THE WIN
AR RC 4 NO 7 BO BEST
AR RC 6 NO 8 JADE STAR

SR RC 5 NO 7 TERRIBLE TAURUS
SR RC 7 NO 7 PATEZZA

BR RC 4 NO 2 AWESOME WEATHER

EASY

[noodleg]

$10 WIN

[noodleg]

$10 WIN
syd R6 Number 4
syd R7 Number 1
mlb R5 number 8
mlb R6 number 6
mlb R7 number 7

cheers Noodleg

[ShoeIn]

SR 6 $10 Zakynthos Star
MR 6 $10 Sir Breakfast
MR 8 $10 Lord Volksraad
BR 6 $10 Our Fabio
AR 7 $10 She's My Baby

Stay tuned, tomorrow my mate has his 2YO having her first start at Wyong and connections are very confident. Will post tomorrow morning.

Good Punting
ShoeIn

[4nk8tor]

all $10 bets
mel r3 no1 special harmony
mel r4 no4 raven protector
mel r6 no13 cross current
mel r8 no16 harley ma
syd r7 no1 victory vein

[Gerry]

It's "Sydney or the bush" for me today so I will have one tip.....$50 on the bugle in race 6 Oakleigh Plate @ Caulfield Nr. 8 SUIT !!

[Gerry]

Sorry, just read the rules....
Make it race 6 Caulfield with
#8 Suit fo $20;
#11 Sir Breakfast, #4 True Glo, #1 Super Elegant all for $10.
Good Luck
GR

[pardon me]

tipping comp.
br.r2 no.5 $20 win
mr.2 no. 8 $10win
mr4 no.4 $10win
ad r4.no,5 $10win

[goldmember]

MY top 5 value raters

all $10 WIN

melb race 8 : regicde
syd race 6: danesty
adel race 4: st viviant
adel race 6: crop
bris race 6: beamer

[La Mer]

My selections for today:

Caulfield:
Race 5: Lonhro ($10)
Race 6: Blur ($10)
Ascot:
Race 6: Crimson Sakura ($10)
Race 7: Hot Shot Brother ($20)

[sportznut]

Okay, not very confident, but here goes:

SR 3 - No2 Ocho $3, No10 Moon Mambo $7
MR 4 - No2 Sweet Corn $3, No6 Royal Sash $7
MR 6 - No5 Ancient Song $3, No6 Blur $7
MR 7 - No6 Alinghi $7, No7 World Peace $3
MR 9 - No1 Lord Volksraad $3, No7 Dane Again $7



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-21 14:00 ]</font>

[sportznut]

Okay, I'm a bit confused. The time on my post suggests that I put my tips in AFTER Moon Mambo's race, when I actually made sure that I got them in BEFORE that race. Is there something wrong with the clock on this site??? It appears to be about 10 minutes fast on my computer anyway.

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[goldmember]

mine is about 6 min fast also, i hope that no one thought i got on lonhro after the race...lol

[sportznut]

Yeah, I think you could have quite confidently predicted that one BEFORE the race! :smile:

[Chuck]

I know its a bit late, but i would have had
$10 ALL

Race 4: Royal Sash
Race 6: Scaredee Cat
Race 7: Alinghi
Race 8: Bird Dancer
Race 9: Lord Volksraad

[sportznut]

If you want to, I think you can still put tips in for the races that are still to run.

Personally, I think I should forget all about trying to pick winners and just use my system selections instead. Reactive was a selection for one of my favourite systems, but in the end, I only had a small bet on her because I personally favoured Blur and Ancient Song.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-21 15:59 ]</font>

[pardon me]

hi sportznut , didnt have the f4 did u ?

[sportznut]

No, but I did have the quinella with Blur, Ancient Song and the 2 system selections Reactive and Legally Bay. it paid $130 up here. :smile:

[pardon me]

wow just pulled f4 in the diamond luck with me today u beaut

[sportznut]

Geez, well done! That was some win by Alinghi, wasn't it?

[goldmember]

Backed reactive also, i always do at caulfield.Remember the race after northerly won the cup, reactive was a top rater on aapracing and sports neural's and it paid $52 . god bless her little[ or should i say BIG] heart

[sportznut]

Good on you. Yeah, I should have had the guts to tip Reactive, but I thought Blur and Ancient Song probably had better chances. I know I shouldn't, but I tend to get influenced by the radio and newspaper tipsters, and if one of them had picked Reactive, then I would have had a bigger bet on her. Oh well, live and learn.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-21 19:15 ]</font>

[sportznut]

Are we supposed to post our own results or is someone else tallying them up? Anyway, for what it's worth, here are my results for week 1:

Moon Mambo (7x$2.40) $16.80
Royal Sash (7x$2.50) $17.50
Alinghi (7x$2.00) $14.00
Dane Again (7x$2.40) $16.80

Total $65.10 Profit $15.10

Not too bad I suppose, but I'm probably going to be a fair way off the lead. Wexford has started off with two good winners from his first two tips :smile:


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-21 18:20 ]</font>

[kenchar]

Sportz,
Just curious what system picked Reactive and Legally Bay ?

Cheers

[sportznut]

Don't worry, you're not going silly. It's not a system that I've posted on here. Not yet anyway. :smile:

[kenchar]

Thank's I thought I was going senile or something.

[sportznut]

Crash,

One of our tipsters had his best bet at Kembla Grange today and Unitab wasn't actually betting on that meeting. Would you use NSW TAB divs if that horse won???


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-21 18:16 ]</font>

[sportznut]

Kenchar, it's a system concentrating on first-uppers in sprint races and Reactive was a special today. Unfortunately, I let the 'experts' opinions influence me and I only had a small bet on her. DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!!!

[pardon me]

yes sportznut an amazing win by alinghi however wish wager could have lasted as had both wager and alinghi on the 1st and 2nd line in F4 and it would have paid alot more , but not complaining paid $937.00
not sure who is recording tipping comp tally but mine went out $50.00 in $89.00 profit$49.00 1 winner adel r4.no.5 rally @8.90

[bruce]

The special for Kembla was mine--my mum part owns Sea Search (bloody horse), which was a bit disappointing. Seeing that the only 2 bets I had all day were Restless and a Parlay (first one ever)--Keep The Faith, Royal Sash, Lonhro, Alinghi (paid $54 for $11 investment), I don't suppose you could change my special to Restless? :lol:

[sportznut]

Pardon me, how's your maths?
$89 is only $39 profit! :grin:

[kenchar]

Sportz,

FORGET the experts.

Last year I subscribed to many EXPERTS, I still get their info but don't actually bet their selections, just follow them.

If I had bet all the selections I would be in the poorhouse.

From what I have seen your methods are better than all of them and I am not p++++++
in your pocket.

I am currently doing my own thing for my main bets and playing around with yours, and quite happy as on most days you give a nice little extra earn.

Keep up the good work.

Cheers

[sportznut]

Well done Bruce. Yeah, there were some pretty obvious winners at Caulfield today. How were you feeling when Alinghi was second last on the turn though? :smile:


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[pardon me]

woops u would never guess i managed a bank would u , thanks sportznut guess iwas too excited after the f4 today thanks for picking it up , ihave checked the fingers and u are right 39.00 profit for the day .

[sportznut]

Thanks Kenchar.
It IS one of my biggest problems that I always seem to let the 'experts' influence my punting decisions.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-21 19:07 ]</font>

[Raw Instinct]

Work this one out then I didn't pick Reactive on here but I liked the horse perfect draw and fresh was always going to get the run of the race.

Ohwell atleast I backed it myself and wegot the triffecta pitty we didn't have a shot at the first 4 would have goe very vey close it only paid a measly $230,000 up here.

[Shaun]

well as the only one to actually select Reactive on here i will claim that nice little $5x $17.70 piad in UNITAB and because True Glow was scratched i only invested $45 for a return of $88.50 and a profit of $43.50

[puntz]

Perhaps there are many ways to cut it
on the punt, this is one of them
on selections posted for the comp.
==================================
40 UNITS FOR WIM
60 UNITS FOR PLACE
cost: 100 UNITS PER BET
===================================
NSW TAB PRICES PAID:
====================================
15.01
AR 4: 3 - 100 LOSS
====================================
15.10
SR 5: 1
W:$5.10 * 40 UNITS = 204.00
P:$1.80 * 60 UNITS = 108.00
312.00
- 100.00 COST
212.00 PROFIT
- 100.00 (AR BET)
= 112.00 PROFIT
====================================
15.50
SR 6: 13 (2ND)
P:$1.80 * 60 UNITS = 108
- 100
8.00
+ 112.00
120.00
====================================
16.10 120.00
MR 7: 1 - 100 LOSS
20.00 (RUN)
====================================
17.20
BR 7: 10 (2ND)
P:$2.30 * 60 = 138.00
- 100.00
38.00
+ 20.00
$58.00 PROFIT
===================================
Probably would have got out after the win bet on SR 5


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2004-02-22 02:56 ]</font>

[crash]

OK. just a few teething problems, but overall, off to a flying start.

Answers to quires that came up :

'No Perth Uni-tab prices' [?]:

Perth Uni-tab prices from race 1 winners are [ from AAP site ]: 4.30,7.00,7.40,6.20,5.40,16.70,12.40,4.60

And for this week only-
Rosehill: 6.10,4.40,2.40,5.00,5.00,4.90,13.20,3.90
Caufield:
2.60,1.40,1.20,2.50,1.40,17.70,2.00,6.20,
2.40
Eagle farm:
6.90,4.90,7.00,2.90,5.00,5.00,4.40,11.10
Cheltenham:
3.90,4.30,1.60,8.90,16.90,10.40,11.90,3.10


'if you want to, I think you can put your tips in for the races that are still to run'.

Rule 9. Closing time for alterations is by official starting time of first tips race.

You can put tips in only up to your first tips starting time. Meaning, ALL your tips [ and any alterations to later tips ] must be in by the 'official' start time of your first tip [ to rule out an early tip being altered during a change to a later tip ].

This comp. like the last one, uses an honor system. The rules are designed to avoid major temptation only. Any obvious deliberate cheating will probably be spotted by someone somewhere.

The honor system applies to doing your own calculations of your banks weekly profit/loss standing and checking of Uni-tab prices for your winners as there is no hired help here. If you are wrong, someone will probably point it out.

Results should be edited into your tips post or added to this thread, so there is some record of your progress somewhere [you'll probably need to refer to it next week to work out where you are ].

A recorded time of editing results will show on the bottom of the page [which won't affect the time at top of page that notes the time you put in your tips ] and should be done after all races have run, not race by race [ for obvious reasons ].

Chuck,

The time you put in your tips was at 15.43 which by the rules would disqualify all your tips, as your first race, Caulfield R/6 started at 15.30 !!

However, as you noted this and as it is the first week, I vote your tips be allowed from R7 [ a win ] unless there is an objection [?]. Race 6 counts as a $10 loss [ credits are only for late scratchings of tips and not for unspent amounts from weekly $50 ].

The forum clock seems to be 8 min. out. So next week we will all allow for that. I vote that Sportz's 6min. late bet stands for this week [?].

My standing would have been $0 profit/loss, but as I changed my first bet R1 Melb. to a long shot [what the hell], I stand at $26 loss.

What a blue blood !! Did anyone take Alinghi for the big Diamond/Golden Slipper double ?
After his outstanding effort in the Diamond [ heart in mouth stuff yesterday for the big punters ] and the fact Freedman has already won 4 Slippers, what price Alinghi now in the Slipper ? The double was last achieved about 15 yrs. ago but I can't remember the horse [?].

*note: A new thread will be started for next Sat.28.02.04 on the Friday, or earlier if time obligations make it necessary . The thread can be put up by anyone.

Cheers.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-22 07:40 ]</font>

[sportznut]

Thanks Crash,

Yeah, I made sure that I put my tips in before my first race and then I was shocked to see the time on my post which suggested that I didn't. Anyway, the query about Unitab prices was actually for Kembla Grange. Unitab doesn't bet on NSW provincial meetings on Saturdays, so what will we do in future if someone picks a winner in one of these races? Use NSW divs?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-22 08:38 ]</font>

[sportznut]

Okay, here's the leaderboard after week one.

To save some embarassment, I've only listed those people that at least managed to break even. :smile:

Wexford +$66
Canecutter69 +$50
Shaun +$43.50
Pardon Me +$39
Storm +$19
Sportznut +$15.10
Intergaze +$12
Muggzy +$11
Leigh +$4
Puntz +$0
Bruce +$0
Shoein +$0


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-02-22 09:18 ]</font>

[easy pick]

RESULTS -50

SPORTNUT U SAID RESTLESS WAS A SYSTEM WELL,THATS GREAT BECAUSE I TOOK RESTLESS WITH TERRIBLE TAURUS IN A QUINELLA AND PAID $49 X 10 $490 YOU BEAUTY....EASY..

[crash]

Thanks Sportz,

Your right, Uni-tab doesn't cover all country Sat. meetings so where there is no coverage NSW divs. stand.

K/grange:
2.20,3.00,2.50,3.60,3.20,5.80,2.70,4.30

Congatulations Wexford, but the road is long and the comp. ain't finished until the fat lady ...falls off her horse.

Cheers.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-02-23 18:19 ]</font>

[umrum]

On 2004-02-20 20:17, umrum wrote:
here goes:

Sr7 Patezza $20* best bet
Mr 5 Sound Action 10 wins
Pr7 Corporate Bruce 5 wins
Siesta Bay 5 wins
Mr9 Lord Volksraad 10 wins

Cheers
Umrum


down fifty bucks. oh well.