GROUP1 CAULFIELD CUP - 2400M (16 Oct)

[Paddy]

WILD IRIS $12.00
SPECIAL HARMONY $14.00
DELZAO $16.00
MUMMIFY $16.00
ELVSTROEM $18.00
GRAND ARMEE $21.00
TALL TIMBERS $21.00
ZUMANITY $21.00
HUGS DANCER $26.00
NIELLO $26.00
PACIFIC DANCER $26.00
PAPINEAU $26.00
SOUND ACTION $26.00
VOUVRAY $26.00
WINNING BELLE $26.00
ZAGALIA $26.00
ZINGAM $26.00
EXCALIBUR $26.00
POWERSCOURT $26.00
BALMUSE $31.00
BRAELOCH $31.00
CONFECTIONER $31.00
DESERT WAR $31.00
DEVASTATING $31.00
DISTINCTLY SECRET $31.00
GREY SONG $31.00
HARD BUCK $31.00
MAKYBE DIVA $31.00
NORTHERLY $31.00
RAZKALLA $31.00
RINKY DINK $31.00
ROYAL SECRET $31.00
SCOTTS VIEW $31.00
SET UP $31.00
SIMPLE EXCHANGE $31.00
STAR OF GRETCHEN $31.00
STRASBOURG $31.00
ZACIELO $31.00
BANDARI $41.00
CARPANETTO $41.00
DARASIM $41.00
FAR LANE $41.00
HIGH ACCOLADE $41.00
MAHARIB $41.00
MR SANDGROPER $41.00
SHAMEKHA $41.00
STUDEBAKER $41.00
UNDER THE BRIDGE $41.00
WEST COUNTRY $41.00
MUQBIL $41.00
ALKAASED $51.00
CELTUS $51.00
DANE BELLTAR $51.00
DELSARTE $51.00
DENON $51.00
FATAL ATTRACTION $51.00
HARD TO GET $51.00
IMPERIAL DANCER $51.00
LAD OF THE MANOR $51.00
MAMOOL $51.00
NATURAL WOMAN $51.00
UPSETTHYM $51.00
WUNDERWOOD $51.00
SOLSKJAER $51.00
BRAMBLE ROSE $61.00
FREE AT LAST $61.00
NOVEMBER DREAMING $61.00
SONGLARK $61.00
SUNDAY JOY $61.00
AINT SEEN NOTHIN $71.00
BUTTEN SHAW $71.00
DESERT CLEARANCE $71.00
DISTINCTION $71.00
EXPANSIVE $71.00
FANTASTIC LOVE $71.00
GALVANIZED $71.00
HEC OF A PARTY $71.00
LASHED $71.00
MAKTUB $71.00
MANAWA KING $71.00
NATURAL BLITZ $71.00
PORTLAND SINGA $71.00
RECLAIM $71.00
SHES ARCHIE $71.00
TINGIRANA $71.00
BRIAN BORU $71.00
CLUDEN CREEK $81.00
CROW WOOD $81.00
DOWRY $81.00
FIGHT YOUR CORNER $81.00
KABLAMMO $81.00
MULTAZEM $81.00
NEW SOUTH WALES $81.00
PENNY GEM $81.00
SEUL AMOUR $81.00
SIR DEX $81.00
SUPERIOR STAR $81.00
THIS MANSHOOD $81.00
CASSIMIR $101.00
DANALAGA $101.00
DANESTORM $101.00
EVASION $101.00
GENERAL BOOTH $101.00
ITEMISE $101.00
KING OF THEM ALL $101.00
KINGSIDE $101.00
LANDSDOWN HOUSE $101.00
LORD OF THE LAND $101.00
MISS POTENTIAL $101.00
PHYSIQUE $101.00
PRETORIUS $101.00
PYRENEES PRINCE $101.00
ROMAN ARCH $101.00
ROMANY PRINCE $101.00
ROSINA LAD $101.00
VOLRONAMO $101.00
WE CANT SAY THAT $101.00
CELESTINA $126.00
CUT THE CAKE $126.00
EXAGGERATE $126.00
GALLIC $126.00
GORYLLA $126.00
GRAMPIAN $126.00
IRISH CRUSADER $126.00
KING HOGAN $126.00
LETS DISCO $126.00
LIGHTNING COMMAND $126.00
LORD WOBURN $126.00
MARTIQUE $126.00
NO PENALTY $126.00
PERLIN $126.00
SATURDAY FEVER $126.00
SO ASSERTIVE $126.00
TICKLE $126.00
TSUIMAI $126.00
ZAZZMAN $126.00
ACETATE $151.00
AL MAHER $151.00
ANOTHER WARRIOR $151.00
BEDOUIN $151.00
BIG PAT $151.00
CAPADAN $151.00
COUNTY TYRONE $151.00
COURT OF APPEAL $151.00
DREAM QUEST $151.00
GOLD MEDALLIST $151.00
HIGHLAND GAMES $151.00
HULACHINE $151.00
KATTAVIA $151.00
MALTA $151.00
MY GOVERNESS $151.00
OUR SMOKING JOE $151.00
PENITENTIARY $151.00
REEF BEACH $151.00
STANICA $151.00
TIPPITAKA $151.00
TRUE STEEL $151.00
UNEARTHLY $151.00
WATERWISE $151.00
YAKAMA $151.00
BARELY A MOMENT $201.00
BEN SPARTA $201.00
BETTER JETSETTER $201.00
BONDY $201.00
BRUGES $201.00
CALORIFIC $201.00
DANCING DAGGERS $201.00
DANEBOROGH $201.00
DESERT MARAUDER $201.00
DIAMOND JAKE $201.00
FORT KNOX $201.00
GENEROSA $201.00
HANSUYEN $201.00
HEDKANDI $201.00
LADY KNOCKOUT $201.00
MOOBALL $201.00
MR AMERICAN GOTHIC $201.00
MR OHARA $201.00
NKUNI $201.00
OCHO $201.00
ODYSSEUS $201.00
OUT OF OPTIONS $201.00
PANTANI $201.00
PIPKIN $201.00
POINT OF HONOUR $201.00
RAW INSTINCT $201.00
REPUBLIC $201.00
SIR BEAL $201.00
SUNDAY SERVICE $201.00
THE MIGHTY LIONS $201.00
TINTAGEL $201.00
UMA KING $201.00
UMBULA $201.00
YOU LITTLE BEAUT $201.00
ALBERATO $301.00
ARALUEN STAR $301.00
AZTECO $301.00
BESWINGING $301.00
BIRAK ATTACK $301.00
BRILLANTI $301.00
CAPE KENNEDY $301.00
DANASRI $301.00
DELIVER US $301.00
DON RAPHAEL $301.00
DOUBLE EL AITCH $301.00
EVIL MASTER $301.00
FOUNTAIN ABBEY $301.00
GAI $301.00
GET UP $301.00
GO STRAIGHT HOME $301.00
HASLAH $301.00
HURRY ON SPEC $301.00
IRONGAIL $301.00
KENDALAY $301.00
LIONS GATE $301.00
LITTLE BALDY $301.00
MAGIC PINS $301.00
MAYTHEHORSEBEFAST $301.00
MOORINGS MELODY $301.00
MUTATE $301.00
MY CHANTICLEER $301.00
NIKALAPKO $301.00
OPINION POLL $301.00
PHILOSOPHE $301.00
PHONE A FRIEND $301.00
PONT DU GARD $301.00
REQUISITE $301.00
RIZON $301.00
ROYAL RIPPA $301.00
SAVABEEL $301.00
SPARTIATE $301.00
THE BIGHEARTED $301.00
THE DIVOT $301.00
TUDOR ETOILE $301.00
ULYSSES $301.00
WORLD EXPLORER $301.00
BEAU $401.00
BEERBOHM TREE $401.00
BUSBY GLENN $401.00
CATCHMEIFYOUCAN $401.00
CAUGHT COURTING $401.00
DIAMOND HAILEY $401.00
DRUMBEATER $401.00
EARS TO VICTORY $401.00
FOREST PRIDE $401.00
HONG KONG IS IT $401.00
LA PARURE $401.00
MBELE $401.00
MCHALE $401.00
PADFOOT CHARLIE $401.00
SERAPH $401.00
SIR GARFIELD $401.00
SIR PENTIRE $401.00
STRANGE CONFLICT $401.00
SUBTLE IRONY $401.00
SUNRAYSIA $401.00
TOMORROWS PARTY $401.00
WILD CLASSIC $401.00
ZALOOT $401.00
AKA BILK $501.00
DERRY DOWNS $501.00
ECO WARRIOR $501.00
KRALL $501.00
LADY POLGAR $501.00
MAZZACANO $501.00
SAINTS UNION $501.00
SCREAMING FIRE $501.00
SET DAYAN $501.00
THE SECONDMORTGAGE $501.00
VALLEY OF KINGS $501.00
VAZOOM $501.00
WINDORF $501.00


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May the luck of the Irish be with you!

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Paddy on 2004-09-21 21:57 ]</font>

[Paddy]

1 ACETATE Alex Macpherson
2 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph
3 AKA BILK (NZ) Jason Williams
4 AL MAHER Gai Waterhouse
5 ALBERATO Robert Smerdon
6 ALKAASED (USA) Luca Cumani
7 ANOTHER WARRIOR Alan Bailey
8 ARALUEN STAR Bart Cummings
9 AZTECO (NZ) Mark Minervini
10 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers
11 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston
12 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy
13 BEAU Myffy Rae
14 BEDOUIN Darren Smith
15 BEERBOHM TREE John Symons
16 BEN SPARTA (NZ) George Merkulov
17 BESWINGING Louise Bonella
18 BETTER JETSETTER John Blakey
19 BIG PAT Robbie Griffiths
20 BIRAK ATTACK (NZ) Michael Moroney
21 BONDY Tony Vasil
22 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter
23 BRAMBLE ROSE (NZ) Mark Todd
24 BRILLANTI (NZ) Bruce Wallace
25 BRUGES (NZ) Colin Little
26 BUSBY GLENN (NZ) Michael Moroney
27 BUTTEN SHAW Lee Freedman
28 CALORIFIC Michael Moroney
29 CAPADAN (NZ) Ross McDonald
30 CAPE KENNEDY Cliff Brown
31 CARPANETTO (IRE) Bart Cummings
32 CASSIMIR (NZ) Peter G Moody
33 CATCHMEIFYOUCAN (NZ) Michael Moroney
34 CAUGHT COURTING (NZ) Guy Walter
35 CELESTINA Brian Mayfield-Smith
36 CELTUS Lee Freedman
37 CLUDEN CREEK (NZ) John Boon
38 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy
39 COUNTY TYRONE Kris Lees
40 COURT OF APPEAL Gai Waterhouse
41 CROW WOOD (GB) James Given
42 CUT THE CAKE (NZ) Michael Moroney
43 DANALAGA Tony McEvoy
44 DANASRI (NZ) Bart Cummings
45 DANCING DAGGERS (NZ) Grahame Begg
46 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald
47 DANEBOROGH Bart Cummings
48 DANESTORM John Salanitri
49 DARASIM (IRE) Mark Johnston
50 DELIVER US (NZ) Michael Moroney
51 DELSARTE (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor
52 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh
53 DENON (USA) Robert Frankel
54 DERRY DOWNS Denis Phelan
55 DESERT CLEARANCE (NZ) Peter G Moody
56 DESERT MARAUDER Greg Eurell
57 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse
58 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins
59 DIAMOND HAILEY (NZ) Cliff Brown
60 DIAMOND JAKE Brian Mayfield-Smith
61 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute
62 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker
63 DON RAPHAEL Kerry Parker
64 DOUBLE EL AITCH (NZ) Bevan Laming
65 DOWRY (NZ) Murray Baker
66 DREAM QUEST Barry Campbell
67 DRUMBEATER Cliff Brown
68 EARS TO VICTORY (NZ) John Collins
69 ECO WARRIOR Erwin Takacs
70 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil
71 EVASION John Hawkes
72 EVIL MASTER (NZ) Mick Price
73 EXAGGERATE (NZ) John Meagher
74 EXPANSIVE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
75 FANTASTIC LOVE (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor
76 FAR LANE (USA) Tony McEvoy
77 FATAL ATTRACTION Lee Freedman
78 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor
79 FOREST PRIDE Sheila Laxon
80 FORT KNOX Rick Hore-Lacy
81 FOUNTAIN ABBEY (NZ) Bruce Wallace
82 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews
83 GAI Gai Waterhouse
84 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
85 GALVANIZED Lee Freedman
86 GENERAL BOOTH (NZ) Tony Vasil
87 GENEROSA (NZ) Bart Cummings
88 GET UP Darryl Dodson
89 GO STRAIGHT HOME (NZ) Bridget Flynn
90 GOLD MEDALLIST (GB) David Elsworth
91 GORYLLA (BRZ) Ken McPeek
92 GRAMPIAN (GB) James Given
93 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse
94 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr)
95 HANSUYEN (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
96 HARD BUCK (BRZ) Ken McPeek
97 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh
98 HASLAH John Sadler
99 HEC OF A PARTY Gai Waterhouse
100 HEDKANDI (NZ) Michael Moroney
101 HIGH ACCOLADE (GB) Marcus Tregoning
102 HIGHLAND GAMES (IRE) James Given
103 HONG KONG IS IT John Hawkes
104 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy
105 HULACHINE (NZ) John O'Shea
106 HURRY ON SPEC Elsie Green
107 IMPERIAL DANCER (GB) Mick Channon
108 IRISH CRUSADER (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith
109 IRONGAIL Joseph Pride
110 ITEMISE (USA) Guy Walter
111 KABLAMMO Danny Williams
112 KATTAVIA Leon Macdonald
113 KENDALAY Ian Hutchins
114 KING HOGAN (NZ) John Hawkes
115 KING OF THEM ALL Bruce Marsh
116 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings
117 KRALL (NZ) Phillip Stokes
118 LA PARURE Rick Hore-Lacy
119 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted
120 LADY KNOCKOUT Tony McEvoy
121 LADY POLGAR (NZ) John Symons
122 LANDSDOWN HOUSE (NZ) John Hawkes
123 LASHED Graeme Rogerson
124 LET'S DISCO (NZ) Mark Todd
125 LIGHTNING COMMAND Brian Mayfield-Smith
126 LIONS GATE Tony McEvoy
127 LITTLE BALDY Terry O'Sullivan
128 LORD OF THE LAND Anthony Cummings
129 LORD WOBURN (NZ) Allan Sharrock
130 MAGIC PINS (NZ) Tony Noonan
131 MAHARIB (IRE) Dermot Weld
132 MAKTUB (ITY) Michael Jarvis
133 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman
134 MALTA Bart Cummings
135 MAMOOL (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor
136 MANAWA KING (NZ) John Salanitri
137 MARTIQUE Gai Waterhouse
138 MAYTHEHORSEBEFAST (NZ) Michael Moroney
139 MAZZACANO Greg Mance
140 MBELE (GB) Ronald Hutchinson
141 MCHALE (NZ) Michael Moroney
142 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie
143 MOOBALL Brian Cox
144 MOORING'S MELODY Len Hodgson
145 MR AMERICAN GOTHIC (GB) Colin Alderson
146 MR O'HARA John Symons
147 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards
148 MULTAZEM (USA) Dermot Weld
149 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman
150 MUTATE Mick Price
151 MY CHANTICLEER Bart Cummings
152 MY GOVERNESS (NZ) John Boon
153 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison
154 NATURAL WOMAN (NZ) Bruce McLachlan
155 NEW SOUTH WALES (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor
156 NIELLO John Hawkes
157 NIKALAPKO Tony McEvoy
158 NKUNI David Payne
159 NO PENALTY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
160 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley
161 NOVEMBER DREAMING Bart Cummings
162 OCHO John Hawkes
163 ODYSSEUS Lee Freedman
164 OPINION POLL (NZ) Tony McEvoy
165 OUR SMOKING JOE Lee Freedman
166 OUT OF OPTIONS Bob Beecroft
167 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer
168 PADFOOT CHARLIE Bruce Cross
169 PANTANI (NZ) Robbie Laing
170 PAPINEAU (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor
171 PENITENTIARY (NZ) Richard Otto
172 PENNY GEM (NZ) Michael Moroney
173 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
174 PHILOSOPHE (NZ) John Salanitri
175 PHONE A FRIEND (NZ) Michael Moroney
176 PHYSIQUE Len Treloar
177 PIPKIN Barry Brook
178 POINT OF HONOUR Gai Waterhouse
179 PONT DU GARD Paul Perry
180 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney
181 PRETORIUS (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith
182 PYRENEES PRINCE Gai Waterhouse
183 RAW INSTINCT (NZ) Bruce McLachlan
184 RAZKALLA (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor
185 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan
186 REEF BEACH Lee Freedman
187 REPUBLIC (NZ) Liam Birchley
188 REQUISITE (NZ) Michael Moroney
189 RINKY DINK Rick Hore-Lacy
190 RIZON Cliff Brown
191 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle
192 ROMANY PRINCE (GB) David Elsworth
193 ROSINA LAD (NZ) David Haworth
194 ROYAL RIPPA Bart Cummings
195 ROYAL SECRET (NZ) Peter G Harris
196 SAINTS UNION (NZ) Mick Price
197 SATURDAY FEVER Tony McEvoy
198 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson
199 SCOTT'S VIEW (GB) Mark Johnston
200 SCREAMING FIRE Tony McEvoy
201 SERAPH Anthony Cummings
202 SET DAYAN David Chapman
203 SET UP Graeme Rogerson
204 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
205 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse
206 SHE'S ARCHIE Darren Weir
207 SIMPLE EXCHANGE (IRE) Dermot Weld
208 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings
209 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman
210 SIR GARFIELD Bart Cummings
211 SIR PENTIRE (NZ) Robbie Laing
212 SO ASSERTIVE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
213 SONGLARK (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor
214 SOUND ACTION Roberta Maguire
215 SPARTIATE Lynn Tipper
216 SPECIAL HARMONY Lee Freedman
217 STANICA (NZ) Mark Todd
218 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody
219 STRANGE CONFLICT Eric Ropiha
220 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings
221 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes
222 SUBTLE IRONY Paul Preusker
223 SUNDAY JOY Dermot Weld
224 SUNDAY SERVICE John Hawkes
225 SUNRAYSIA John Salanitri
226 SUPERIOR STAR Laurie Laxon
227 TALL TIMBERS Danny O'Brien
228 THE BIGHEARTED (NZ) Michael Moroney
229 THE DIVOT (NZ) Peter G Moody
230 THE MIGHTY LIONS (NZ) Michael Moroney
231 THE SECONDMORTGAGE (NZ) Dale Sutton
232 THIS MANSHOOD Tim Martin
233 TICKLE (NZ) John Sargent
234 TINGIRANA (NZ) Jeremy Gask
235 TINTAGEL (NZ) Lee Freedman
236 TIPPITAKA Tony McEvoy
237 TOMORROW'S PARTY (NZ) Michael Moroney
238 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne
239 TSUIMAI Jack Denham
240 TUDOR ETOILE (NZ) Cliff Brown
241 ULYSSES Tony McEvoy
242 UMA KING Mick Price
243 UMBULA Mick Price
244 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil
245 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne
246 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon
247 VALLEY OF KINGS Greg Mance
248 VAZOOM (NZ) Michael Moroney
249 VOLRONAMO (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith
250 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody
251 WATERWISE (NZ) John Hawkes
252 WE CAN'T SAY THAT (NZ) Garry Newham
253 WEST COUNTRY Steve Englebrecht
254 WILD CLASSIC Patrick McKenna
255 WILD IRIS Guy Walter
256 WINDORF John Hubbard
257 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
258 WORLD EXPLORER Michael Moroney
259 WUNDERWOOD (USA) Lady Herries
260 YAKAMA Bevan Laming
261 YOU LITTLE BEAUT Tony McEvoy
262 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody
263 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners
264 ZALOOT (NZ) Bart Cummings
265 ZAZZMAN Tony Vasil
266 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter
267 ZUMANITY (NZ) John O'Shea

[reinz]

Big price difference between DELZAO and BRAELOCH considering the latter finished in front in the Aust Derby.

[Chuck]

i think delzao seems like a great bet as current - but i do like the look of special harmony
Chuck

[Raw Instinct]

This is where I really like Braeloch a front runner at Caulfield. I think he just might be good enough to win without any bias at all but that short Caulfield straight is going to help alot. 30-1 looks a solid price there and weight wise he won't be treated to harshly I wouldn't think.

[kenchar]

Paddy,
That's a race I don't want to miss as it should be quite stunning with 267 runners :lol:

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[maverick1993]

Lets not forget the Huge run by Hugs Dancer ...Mcevoy on the job now and could be improved.

[purpleheart68]

Always a good race for 4yo mares,so my early bets have gone on Special Harmony,Vouvray,Wild Iris and Sound Action,all at good odds.
Have coupled these with Hugs Dancer and Maykbe Diva in early doubles.Heres hoping!

[Mr ed]

Braeloch has only run one good (spectacular) race when he was left alone in the lead and he did beat delzao that day. however i think there will be alot more pressure on the lead this year (considering Mummify's performance last year). Delzao has proven he is a class horse and at 16/1 looks great each-way value. I wasn't at the time but i am happy now lohnro nosed him out in the Australia Cup as he should get a nice coushy weight as he still is only a listed race winner.

[Paddy]

Prices at: 17:47:00, 15 Aug 2004 (100/1 & under)


WILD IRIS $11.00
SPECIAL HARMONY $13.00
DELZAO $16.00
MUMMIFY $16.00
ELVSTROEM $18.00
GRAND ARMEE $21.00
TALL TIMBERS $21.00
ZUMANITY $21.00
HUGS DANCER $26.00
NIELLO $26.00
PAPINEAU $26.00
SOUND ACTION $26.00
VOUVRAY $26.00
WINNING BELLE $26.00
ZAGALIA $26.00
EXCALIBUR $26.00
POWERSCOURT $26.00
BALMUSE $31.00
BRAELOCH $31.00
CONFECTIONER $31.00
DESERT WAR $31.00
DEVASTATING $31.00
DISTINCTLY SECRET $31.00
FAR LANE $31.00
GREY SONG $31.00
HARD BUCK $31.00
MAKYBE DIVA $31.00
NORTHERLY $31.00
PACIFIC DANCER $31.00
RINKY DINK $31.00
ROYAL SECRET $31.00
SET UP $31.00
ZINGAM $31.00
BANDARI $41.00
DARASIM $41.00
HIGH ACCOLADE $41.00
MAHARIB $41.00
MR SANDGROPER $41.00
RAZKALLA $41.00
SCOTTS VIEW $41.00
SHAMEKHA $41.00
SHES ARCHIE $41.00
SIMPLE EXCHANGE $41.00
STAR OF GRETCHEN $41.00
STRASBOURG $41.00
STUDEBAKER $41.00
WEST COUNTRY $41.00
ZACIELO $41.00
MUQBIL $41.00
ALKAASED $51.00
CELTUS $51.00
DANE BELLTAR $51.00
DELSARTE $51.00
DISTINCTION $51.00
FATAL ATTRACTION $51.00
HARD TO GET $51.00
LAD OF THE MANOR $51.00
MAMOOL $51.00
NATURAL WOMAN $51.00
UNDER THE BRIDGE $51.00
WUNDERWOOD $51.00
SOLSKJAER $51.00
BRAMBLE ROSE $61.00
DENON $61.00
FANTASTIC LOVE $61.00
FREE AT LAST $61.00
IMPERIAL DANCER $61.00
NOVEMBER DREAMING $61.00
SEUL AMOUR $61.00
SONGLARK $61.00
SUNDAY JOY $61.00
UPSETTHYM $61.00
AINT SEEN NOTHIN $71.00
BUTTEN SHAW $71.00
GALVANIZED $71.00
HEC OF A PARTY $71.00
LASHED $71.00
MAKTUB $71.00
NATURAL BLITZ $71.00
PORTLAND SINGA $71.00
TINGIRANA $71.00
BRIAN BORU $71.00
CLUDEN CREEK $81.00
CROW WOOD $81.00
DESERT CLEARANCE $81.00
DOWRY $81.00
EXPANSIVE $81.00
FIGHT YOUR CORNER $81.00
KABLAMMO $81.00
MANAWA KING $81.00
MULTAZEM $81.00
NEW SOUTH WALES $81.00
PENNY GEM $81.00
RECLAIM $81.00
SUPERIOR STAR $81.00
THIS MANSHOOD $81.00
CASSIMIR $101.00
DANALAGA $101.00
DANESTORM $101.00
GENERAL BOOTH $101.00
GRAMPIAN $101.00
ITEMISE $101.00
KING OF THEM ALL $101.00
LANDSDOWN HOUSE $101.00
LORD OF THE LAND $101.00
MISS POTENTIAL $101.00
PHYSIQUE $101.00
PRETORIUS $101.00
ROMAN ARCH $101.00
ROMANY PRINCE $101.00
SIR DEX $101.00
VOLRONAMO $101.00

[mug punta]

No one has mentioned Wild Iris in their thoughts here. Her win in The Sydney Oaks was unbelievable. I know that faves in early markets dont win often in CAU/ MELB CUPS as something always seems to go wrong but this horse may be as good as the other uprising star, STARCRAFT. His winner slipper day was so exciting , and iv'e never seen a horse pick up other good horses so quickly. If he has improved at all he is probly the best horse in Australia.
I think all of Mr Ed's comments regarding the cox plate and BRAELOCH make a lot of sense. Also Sound Action looks value at $26

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[maverick1993]

Tall timbers is fairly safe...has ability but up to this class ?? not sure

[william]

Elvstroem
Mummify
Confectioner
Hugs Dancer


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[umrum]

Soecial harmony wont run 2400m. The cox plate is her go but I dont like her much in that either.

Braeloch and makybe diva are the value for mine.

Your not serious about The Secondmortgage are you william?

[Matilda]

Hi all,

There are so many good horses at the end of the list with big odds. Can any of you explain/tell me that they are not good or why they are having such a big odds. I might not know what you know as I am not in Australia now.

DISTINCTLY SECRET $31.00
GREY SONG $31.00
MAKYBE DIVA $31.00
NORTHERLY $31.00
SHES ARCHIE $41.00
STRASBOURG $41.00
STUDEBAKER $41.00
UNDER THE BRIDGE $51.00
SUNDAY JOY $61.00
AINT SEEN NOTHIN $71.00
LASHED $71.00
NATURAL BLITZ $71.00
THIS MANSHOOD $81.00
PHYSIQUE $101.00

Go punting....

[umrum]

For a start it is still two months away Matilda.

DISTINCTLY SECRET $31.00 - chance
GREY SONG $31.00 - will probably be around 20/1 on the day so why take early odds of only a bit more.
MAKYBE DIVA $31.00 - will go up in weight from her fourth last year. good value.
NORTHERLY $31.00 - probably wont start in this race. will get at least 60kg.
SHES ARCHIE $41.00 -
STRASBOURG $41.00 - coming back from a tendon injury.
STUDEBAKER $41.00
UNDER THE BRIDGE $51.00 - wasnt up to the class in the autumn.
SUNDAY JOY $61.00 - think she is overseas. Gai trains her.
AINT SEEN NOTHIN $71.00 - no chance in either.
LASHED $71.00 - Group 2 horse at best.
NATURAL BLITZ $71.00 - bit of value but will probably target the cox plate.
THIS MANSHOOD $81.00
PHYSIQUE $101.00 - I believe sold to singapore or hong kong.

[maverick1993]

agree with most of that Umrun ..except for Aint Seen Nothin who i think did enormous last spring after a long campaign..
Grey Song if he gets conditions to suit could be a chance,,He seems as though he's been around for years but i think hes only 6 now...one year older than Makybe Diva and Aint seen Nothin..
He ran a huge Caulfield last year ...and was on the 2nd or 3rd line in the melb Cup..

I have a soft spot for him because he's always there about and gives 200% in his races..

[purpleheart68]

Of the males think Elvstroem is a chance & dont envisage getting anywhere near $18 on the day,so am backing it now.Was a costly horse for me last time in so it owes me.Was a good run first up,so I'm kinda hoping it's come up this time in with a bit of maturity on it's side.
Mugpunta,I mentioned Wild Iris in my previous post about 4yo mares record in this race,didn't you see it?
As for Special Harmony not running 2400 can't agree.Didn't she win the VRC Oaks over that trip in a canter?I still believe she would have won the Oaks in Sydney,why Lee decided to take on the males in the Derby still astounds me!She is a better proposition in Melbourne to me,and racing the males in the Caulfield Cup is a much better go than it was in the Derby.My thoughts only.

[Chuck]

Don't Zagalia and Wild Iris look well prepared for the cups after their great runs yesterday!

[Paddy]

Prices at: 17:57:00, 22 Aug 2004 100/1 & under

No. Selection Win Place
354 Wild Iris $11.00 $3.50
315 Special Harmony $13.00 $4.00
248 Mummify $15.00 $4.50
356 Winning Belle $15.00 $4.50
151 Delzao $17.00 $5.00
169 Elvstroem $17.00 $5.00
203 Hugs Dancer $17.00 $5.00
362 Zagalia $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
148 Darasim $26.00 $7.25
156 Desert War $26.00 $7.25
192 Grand Armee $26.00 $7.25
195 Hard Buck $26.00 $7.25
232 Makybe Diva $26.00 $7.25
269 Papineau $26.00 $7.25
365 Zingam $26.00 $7.25
105 Alkaased $34.00 $9.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
174 Fantastic Love $34.00 $9.25
175 Far Lane $34.00 $9.25
234 Mamool $34.00 $9.25
266 Pacific Dancer $34.00 $9.25
283 Razkalla $34.00 $9.25
305 She's Archie $34.00 $9.25
306 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
319 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
368 Excalibur Le $34.00 $9.25
369 Muqbil Le $34.00 $9.25
370 Powerscourt Le $34.00 $9.25
371 Solskjaer Le $34.00 $9.25
161 Distinctly Secret $41.00 $11.00
313 Sound Action $41.00 $11.00
157 Devastating $51.00 $13.50
160 Distinction $51.00 $13.50
176 Fatal Attraction $51.00 $13.50
193 Grey Song $51.00 $13.50
230 Maharib $51.00 $13.50
235 Manawa King $51.00 $13.50
255 Niello $51.00 $13.50
259 Northerly $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
298 Scott's View $51.00 $13.50
302 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
308 Sir Dex $51.00 $13.50
312 Songlark $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
358 Wunderwood $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50
135 Celtus $67.00 $17.50
145 Dane Belltar $67.00 $17.50
146 Daneborogh $67.00 $17.50
147 Danestorm $67.00 $17.50
191 Grampian $67.00 $17.50
231 Maktub $67.00 $17.50
253 Natural Woman $67.00 $17.50
260 November Dreaming $67.00 $17.50
282 Raw Instinct $67.00 $17.50
284 Reclaim $67.00 $17.50
294 Royal Secret $67.00 $17.50
303 Seul Amour $67.00 $17.50
304 Shamekha $67.00 $17.50
322 Sunday Joy $67.00 $17.50
333 Tingirana $67.00 $17.50
343 Under The Bridge $67.00 $17.50
364 Zazzman $67.00 $17.50
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $81.00 $21.00
109 Balmuse $81.00 $21.00
137 Confectioner $81.00 $21.00
110 Bandari $101.00 $26.00
122 Bramble Rose $101.00 $26.00
136 Cluden Creek $101.00 $26.00
150 Delsarte $101.00 $26.00
164 Dowry $101.00 $26.00
181 Free At Last $101.00 $26.00
186 Generosa $101.00 $26.00
196 Hard To Get $101.00 $26.00
198 Hec of a Party $101.00 $26.00
200 High Accolade $101.00 $26.00
207 Irish Crusader $101.00 $26.00
210 Kablammo $101.00 $26.00
221 Landsdown House $101.00 $26.00
224 Lightning Command $101.00 $26.00
246 Mr Sandgroper $101.00 $26.00
247 Multazem $101.00 $26.00
251 My Governess $101.00 $26.00
252 Natural Blitz $101.00 $26.00
271 Penny Gem $101.00 $26.00
279 Portland Singa $101.00 $26.00
320 Studebaker $101.00 $26.00
331 This Manshood $101.00 $26.00
334 Tintagel $101.00 $26.00
345 Upsetthym $101.00 $26.00
367 Brian Boru Le $101.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

Prices at: 21:00:00, 28 Aug 2004 100/1 & under

354 Wild Iris $11.00 $3.50
151 Delzao $15.00 $4.50
248 Mummify $15.00 $4.50
315 Special Harmony $15.00 $4.50
356 Winning Belle $15.00 $4.50
169 Elvstroem $17.00 $5.00
203 Hugs Dancer $17.00 $5.00
232 Makybe Diva $17.00 $5.00
362 Zagalia $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
148 Darasim $26.00 $7.25
156 Desert War $26.00 $7.25
192 Grand Armee $26.00 $7.25
266 Pacific Dancer $26.00 $7.25
269 Papineau $26.00 $7.25
305 She's Archie $26.00 $7.25
365 Zingam $26.00 $7.25
105 Alkaased $34.00 $9.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
174 Fantastic Love $34.00 $9.25
175 Far Lane $34.00 $9.25
195 Hard Buck $34.00 $9.25
234 Mamool $34.00 $9.25
283 Razkalla $34.00 $9.25
306 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
319 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
368 Excalibur Le $34.00 $9.25
369 Muqbil Le $34.00 $9.25
370 Powerscourt Le $34.00 $9.25
371 Solskjaer Le $34.00 $9.25
161 Distinctly Secret $41.00 $11.00
313 Sound Action $41.00 $11.00
157 Devastating $51.00 $13.50
160 Distinction $51.00 $13.50
176 Fatal Attraction $51.00 $13.50
193 Grey Song $51.00 $13.50
230 Maharib $51.00 $13.50
235 Manawa King $51.00 $13.50
255 Niello $51.00 $13.50
259 Northerly $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
298 Scott's View $51.00 $13.50
302 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
308 Sir Dex $51.00 $13.50
312 Songlark $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
358 Wunderwood $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50
135 Celtus $67.00 $17.50
137 Confectioner $67.00 $17.50
145 Dane Belltar $67.00 $17.50
146 Daneborogh $67.00 $17.50
147 Danestorm $67.00 $17.50
181 Free At Last $67.00 $17.50
191 Grampian $67.00 $17.50
215 Kingside $67.00 $17.50
231 Maktub $67.00 $17.50
253 Natural Woman $67.00 $17.50
260 November Dreaming $67.00 $17.50
282 Raw Instinct $67.00 $17.50
284 Reclaim $67.00 $17.50
303 Seul Amour $67.00 $17.50
304 Shamekha $67.00 $17.50
322 Sunday Joy $67.00 $17.50
333 Tingirana $67.00 $17.50
343 Under The Bridge $67.00 $17.50
364 Zazzman $67.00 $17.50
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $81.00 $21.00
109 Balmuse $81.00 $21.00
110 Bandari $101.00 $26.00
122 Bramble Rose $101.00 $26.00
136 Cluden Creek $101.00 $26.00
150 Delsarte $101.00 $26.00
164 Dowry $101.00 $26.00
186 Generosa $101.00 $26.00
196 Hard To Get $101.00 $26.00
198 Hec of a Party $101.00 $26.00
200 High Accolade $101.00 $26.00
207 Irish Crusader $101.00 $26.00
210 Kablammo $101.00 $26.00
221 Landsdown House $101.00 $26.00
224 Lightning Command $101.00 $26.00
247 Multazem $101.00 $26.00
251 My Governess $101.00 $26.00
252 Natural Blitz $101.00 $26.00
271 Penny Gem $101.00 $26.00
279 Portland Singa $101.00 $26.00
320 Studebaker $101.00 $26.00
331 This Manshood $101.00 $26.00
334 Tintagel $101.00 $26.00
345 Upsetthym $101.00 $26.00
367 Brian Boru Le $101.00 $26.00

[Paddy]

CAULFIELD CUP weights (in ballot order)

No Horse Trainer Weight
1 NORTHERLY Fred Kersley 1 60
2 PAPINEAU (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 2 59.5
3 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston 3 58.5
4 DENON (USA) Robert Frankel 4 58
5 HARD BUCK (BRZ) Ken McPeek 5 57.5
6 POWERSCOURT (GB) Aidan O'Brien 6 57.5
7 BRIAN BORU (GB) Aidan O'Brien 7 57
8 DARASIM (IRE) Mark Johnston 8 57
9 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 9 57
10 MAMOOL (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor 10 57
11 GORYLLA (BRZ) Ken McPeek 11 56
12 HIGH ACCOLADE (GB) Marcus Tregoning 12 56
13 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 13 56
14 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 14 55.5
15 SCOTT'S VIEW (GB) Mark Johnston 15 55.5
16 IMPERIAL DANCER (GB) Mick Channon 16 55
17 MAKTUB (ITY) Michael Jarvis 17 55
18 RAZKALLA (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 18 55
19 ALKAASED (USA) Luca Cumani 19 54.5
20 FAR LANE (USA) Tony McEvoy 20 54.5
21 MUQBIL (USA) John Dunlop 21 54.5
22 NIELLO John Hawkes 22 54.5
23 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 23 54
24 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute 24 54
25 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 25 54
26 GOLD MEDALLIST (GB) David Elsworth 26 54
27 SONGLARK (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 27 54
28 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 28 53.5
29 NEW SOUTH WALES (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 29 53.5
30 SOLSKJAER (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 30 53.5
31 WUNDERWOOD (USA) Lady Herries 31 53.5
32 DELSARTE (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 32 53
33 EXCALIBUR (IRE) Aidan O'Brien 33 53
34 FIGHT YOUR CORNER (GB) Saeed Bin Suroor 34 53
35 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 35 53
36 SOUND ACTION Roberta Maguire 36 53
37 THIS MANSHOOD Tim Martin 37 53
38 CLUDEN CREEK (NZ) John Boon 38 52.5
39 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 39 52.5
40 MULTAZEM (USA) Dermot Weld 40 52.5
41 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 41 52.5
42 SPECIAL HARMONY Lee Freedman 42 52.5
43 ZAZZMAN Tony Vasil 43 52.5
44 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 44 52
45 COUNTY TYRONE Kris Lees 45 52
46 FANTASTIC LOVE (USA) Saeed Bin Suroor 46 52
47 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 47 52
48 LASHED Graeme Rogerson 48 52
49 LORD WOBURN (NZ) Allan Sharrock 49 52
50 MAHARIB (IRE) Dermot Weld 50 52
51 ROMANY PRINCE (GB) David Elsworth 51 52
52 SIMPLE EXCHANGE (IRE) Dermot Weld 52 52
53 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 53 52
54 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes 54 52
55 SUNDAY JOY Dermot Weld 55 52
56 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody 56 52
57 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter 57 51.5
58 BRAMBLE ROSE (NZ) Mark Todd 58 51.5
59 DANESTORM Rodney Douglas 59 51.5
60 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 60 51.5
61 PENNY GEM (NZ) Michael Moroney 61 51.5
62 ROSINA LAD (NZ) David Haworth 62 51.5
63 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse 63 51.5
64 SHE'S ARCHIE Darren Weir 64 51.5
65 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 65 51.5
66 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 66 51.5
67 ANOTHER WARRIOR Alan Bailey 67 51
68 BEDOUIN Darren Smith 68 51
69 BEN SPARTA (NZ) George Merkulov 69 51
70 CELTUS Lee Freedman 70 51
71 CUT THE CAKE (NZ) Michael Moroney 71 51
72 EXAGGERATE (NZ) John Meagher 72 51
73 GRAMPIAN (GB) James Given 73 51
74 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh 74 51
75 KATTAVIA Leon Macdonald 75 51
76 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards 76 51
77 PANTANI (NZ) Robbie Laing 77 51
78 PHYSIQUE Len Treloar 78 51
79 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon 79 51
80 CROW WOOD (GB) James Given 80 50.5
81 DOWRY (NZ) Murray Baker 81 50.5
82 HEC OF A PARTY Gai Waterhouse 82 50.5
83 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 83 50.5
84 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney 84 50.5
85 ROYAL SECRET (NZ) Peter G Harris 85 50.5
86 SO ASSERTIVE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 86 50.5
87 TALL TIMBERS Danny O'Brien 87 50.5
88 WEST COUNTRY Steve Englebrecht 88 50.5
89 ACETATE Alex Macpherson 89 50
90 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 90 50
91 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins 91 50
92 IRISH CRUSADER (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith 92 50
93 KABLAMMO Danny Williams 93 50
94 KING OF THEM ALL Bruce Marsh 94 50
95 MANAWA KING (NZ) Rodney Douglas 95 50
96 MR AMERICAN GOTHIC (GB) Colin Alderson 96 50
97 MY GOVERNESS (NZ) John Boon 97 50
98 OUT OF OPTIONS Bob Beecroft 98 50
99 PENITENTIARY (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 99 50
100 RAW INSTINCT (NZ) Bruce McLachlan 100 50
101 RECLAIM Gerald Ryan 101 50
102 REPUBLIC (NZ) Liam Birchley 102 50
103 SATURDAY FEVER Tony McEvoy 103 50
104 SIR DEX Gregory Hickman 104 50
105 SUBTLE IRONY Paul Preusker 105 50
106 SUPERIOR STAR Laurie Laxon 106 50
107 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne 107 50
108 TSUIMAI Jack Denham 108 50
109 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil 109 50
110 VOLRONAMO (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith 110 50
111 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 111 50
112 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter 112 50
113 BESWINGING Louise Bonella 113 49.5
114 BIG PAT Robbie Griffiths 114 49.5
115 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy 115 49.5
116 DANCING DAGGERS (NZ) Grahame Begg 116 49.5
117 DANEBOROGH Bart Cummings 117 49.5
118 DESERT CLEARANCE (NZ) Peter G Moody 118 49.5
119 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 119 49.5
120 DIAMOND JAKE Brian Mayfield-Smith 120 49.5
121 DREAM QUEST Barry Campbell 121 49.5
122 EVIL MASTER (NZ) Mick Price 122 49.5
123 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 123 49.5
124 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 124 49.5
125 GENERAL BOOTH (NZ) Tony Vasil 125 49.5
126 HONG KONG IS IT John Hawkes 126 49.5
127 LAD OF THE MANOR (NZ) Roger Hoysted 127 49.5
128 LORD OF THE LAND Anthony Cummings 128 49.5
129 MR O'HARA John Symons 129 49.5
130 NOVEMBER DREAMING Bart Cummings 130 49.5
131 ODYSSEUS Lee Freedman 131 49.5
132 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 132 49.5
133 PRETORIUS (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith 133 49.5
134 REEF BEACH Lee Freedman 134 49.5
135 RINKY DINK Rick Hore-Lacy 135 49.5
136 SET UP Graeme Rogerson 136 49.5
137 UMBULA Mick Price 137 49.5
138 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne 138 49.5
139 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 139 49.5
140 ZUMANITY (NZ) John O'Shea 140 49.5
141 AKA BILK (NZ) Jason Williams 141 49
142 ALBERATO Robert Smerdon 142 49
143 ARALUEN STAR Bart Cummings 143 49
144 AZTECO (NZ) Mark Minervini 144 49
145 BEAU Myffy Rae 145 49
146 BEERBOHM TREE John Symons 146 49
147 BETTER JETSETTER John Blakey 147 49
148 BIRAK ATTACK (NZ) Michael Moroney 148 49
149 BONDY Tony Vasil 149 49
150 BRILLANTI (NZ) Bruce Wallace 150 49
151 BRUGES (NZ) Colin Little 151 49
152 BUSBY GLENN (NZ) Michael Moroney 152 49
153 BUTTEN SHAW Lee Freedman 153 49
154 CAPADAN (NZ) Ross McDonald 154 49
155 CAPE KENNEDY Cliff Brown 155 49
156 CASSIMIR (NZ) Peter G Moody 156 49
157 CATCHMEIFYOUCAN (NZ) Michael Moroney 157 49
158 CAUGHT COURTING (NZ) Guy Walter 158 49
159 CELESTINA Brian Mayfield-Smith 159 49
160 COURT OF APPEAL Gai Waterhouse 160 49
161 DANALAGA Tony McEvoy 161 49
162 DANASRI (NZ) Bart Cummings 162 49
163 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 163 49
164 DELIVER US (NZ) Michael Moroney 164 49
165 DERRY DOWNS Denis Phelan 165 49
166 DESERT MARAUDER Greg Eurell 166 49
167 DIAMOND HAILEY (NZ) Cliff Brown 167 49
168 DON RAPHAEL Kerry Parker 168 49
169 DOUBLE EL AITCH (NZ) Bevan Laming 169 49
170 DRUMBEATER Cliff Brown 170 49
171 EARS TO VICTORY (NZ) John Collins 171 49
172 ECO WARRIOR Erwin Takacs 172 49
173 EVASION John Hawkes 173 49
174 EXPANSIVE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 174 49
175 FATAL ATTRACTION Lee Freedman 175 49
176 FOREST PRIDE Sheila Laxon 176 49
177 FORT KNOX Rick Hore-Lacy 177 49
178 FOUNTAIN ABBEY (NZ) Bruce Wallace 178 49
179 GAI Gai Waterhouse 179 49
180 GALVANIZED Lee Freedman 180 49
181 GENEROSA (NZ) Bart Cummings 181 49
182 GET UP Darryl Dodson 182 49
183 GO STRAIGHT HOME (NZ) Bridget Flynn 183 49
184 HANSUYEN (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 184 49
185 HASLAH John Sadler 185 49
186 HEDKANDI (NZ) Michael Moroney 186 49
187 HIGHLAND GAMES (IRE) James Given 187 49
188 HULACHINE (NZ) John O'Shea 188 49
189 HURRY ON SPEC Elsie Green 189 49
190 IRONGAIL Joseph Pride 190 49
191 ITEMISE (USA) Guy Walter 191 49
192 KENDALAY Ian Hutchins 192 49
193 KING HOGAN (NZ) John Hawkes 193 49
194 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings 194 49
195 KRALL (NZ) Phillip Stokes 195 49
196 LA PARURE Rick Hore-Lacy 196 49
197 LADY KNOCKOUT Tony McEvoy 197 49
198 LADY POLGAR (NZ) John Symons 198 49
199 LANDSDOWN HOUSE (NZ) John Hawkes 199 49
200 LET'S DISCO (NZ) Mark Todd 200 49
201 LIGHTNING COMMAND Brian Mayfield-Smith 201 49
202 LITTLE BALDY Terry O'Sullivan 202 49
203 MALTA Bart Cummings 203 49
204 MARTIQUE Gai Waterhouse 204 49
205 MAYTHEHORSEBEFAST (NZ) Michael Moroney 205 49
206 MAZZACANO Greg Mance 206 49
207 MBELE (GB) Ronald Hutchinson 207 49
208 MCHALE (NZ) Michael Moroney 208 49
209 MOOBALL Brian Cox 209 49
210 MOORING'S MELODY Len Hodgson 210 49
211 MUTATE Mick Price 211 49
212 MY CHANTICLEER Bart Cummings 212 49
213 NATURAL WOMAN (NZ) Bruce McLachlan 213 49
214 NIKALAPKO Tony McEvoy 214 49
215 NKUNI David Payne 215 49
216 NO PENALTY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 216 49
217 OCHO John Hawkes 217 49
218 OUR SMOKING JOE Lee Freedman 218 49
219 PADFOOT CHARLIE Bruce Cross 219 49
220 PHILOSOPHE (NZ) Rodney Douglas 220 49
221 PHONE A FRIEND (NZ) Michael Moroney 221 49
222 PIPKIN Barry Brook 222 49
223 POINT OF HONOUR Gai Waterhouse 223 49
224 PONT DU GARD Paul Perry 224 49
225 PYRENEES PRINCE Gai Waterhouse 225 49
226 REQUISITE (NZ) Michael Moroney 226 49
227 RIZON Cliff Brown 227 49
228 ROYAL RIPPA Bart Cummings 228 49
229 SAINTS UNION (NZ) Mick Price 229 49
230 SCREAMING FIRE Tony McEvoy 230 49
231 SERAPH Anthony Cummings 231 49
232 SET DAYAN David Chapman 232 49
233 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 233 49
234 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 234 49
235 SIR GARFIELD Bart Cummings 235 49
236 SIR PENTIRE (NZ) Robbie Laing 236 49
237 SPARTIATE Lynn Tipper 237 49
238 STANICA (NZ) Mark Todd 238 49
239 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 239 49
240 STRANGE CONFLICT Eric Ropiha 240 49
241 SUNDAY SERVICE John Hawkes 241 49
242 SUNRAYSIA Rodney Douglas 242 49
243 THE BIGHEARTED (NZ) Michael Moroney 243 49
244 THE DIVOT (NZ) Peter G Moody 244 49
245 THE MIGHTY LIONS (NZ) Michael Moroney 245 49
246 THE SECONDMORTGAGE (NZ) Dale Sutton 246 49
247 TICKLE (NZ) John Sargent 247 49
248 TINGIRANA (NZ) Jeremy Gask 248 49
249 TINTAGEL (NZ) Lee Freedman 249 49
250 TOMORROW'S PARTY (NZ) Michael Moroney 250 49
251 TUDOR ETOILE (NZ) Cliff Brown 251 49
252 UMA KING Mick Price 252 49
253 VALLEY OF KINGS Greg Mance 253 49
254 VAZOOM (NZ) Michael Moroney 254 49
255 WATERWISE (NZ) John Hawkes 255 49
256 WE CAN'T SAY THAT (NZ) Garry Newham 256 49
257 WILD CLASSIC Patrick McKenna 257 49
258 WINDORF John Hubbard 258 49
259 WORLD EXPLORER Michael Moroney 259 49
260 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 260 49
261 YOU LITTLE BEAUT Tony McEvoy 261 49
262 ZALOOT (NZ) Bart Cummings 262 49
263 AL MAHER Gai Waterhouse 263 47
264 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy 264 47
265 CALORIFIC Michael Moroney 265 47
266 LIONS GATE Tony McEvoy 266 47
267 MAGIC PINS (NZ) Tony Noonan 267 47
268 OPINION POLL (NZ) Tony McEvoy 268 47
269 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 269 47
270 TIPPITAKA Tony McEvoy 270 47
271 ULYSSES Tony McEvoy 271 47

[Chenille Prince]

Northerly 60kgs! Well that's a waste of the handicappers time and effort :lol:

[rabbitz]

Helo boys and girls
For those who want to take Caulfield/Melbourne cup doubles,look around
For instance say you wanted the following
Braeloch -Distinction,Unitab($810.00)
Vouvray -Distinction,Unitab ($810.00)
while Michael eskander is only offering $451
So what do you make of that
Cheers

[Paddy]

Current market 50/1 & under

No. Selection Win Place
354 Wild Iris $9.00 $3.00
203 Hugs Dancer $11.00 $3.50
151 Delzao $15.00 $4.50
315 Special Harmony $15.00 $4.50
356 Winning Belle $15.00 $4.50
169 Elvstroem $17.00 $5.00
232 Makybe Diva $17.00 $5.00
248 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
362 Zagalia $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
148 Darasim $26.00 $7.25
156 Desert War $26.00 $7.25
192 Grand Armee $26.00 $7.25
266 Pacific Dancer $26.00 $7.25
305 She's Archie $26.00 $7.25
319 Strasbourg $26.00 $7.25
365 Zingam $26.00 $7.25
105 Alkaased $34.00 $9.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
137 Confectioner $34.00 $9.25
174 Fantastic Love $34.00 $9.25
175 Far Lane $34.00 $9.25
193 Grey Song $34.00 $9.25
195 Hard Buck $34.00 $9.25
234 Mamool $34.00 $9.25
283 Razkalla $34.00 $9.25
306 Simple Exchange $34.00 $9.25
368 Excalibur Le $34.00 $9.25
369 Muqbil Le $34.00 $9.25
370 Powerscourt Le $34.00 $9.25
371 Solskjaer Le $34.00 $9.25
161 Distinctly Secret $41.00 $11.00
181 Free At Last $41.00 $11.00
313 Sound Action $41.00 $11.00
157 Devastating $51.00 $13.50
160 Distinction $51.00 $13.50
230 Maharib $51.00 $13.50
235 Manawa King $51.00 $13.50
255 Niello $51.00 $13.50
259 Northerly $51.00 $13.50
279 Portland Singa $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
298 Scott's View $51.00 $13.50
302 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
308 Sir Dex $51.00 $13.50
312 Songlark $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
358 Wunderwood $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

Current market 50/1 & under

354 Wild Iris $9.00 $3.00
203 Hugs Dancer $11.00 $3.50
151 Delzao $15.00 $4.50
315 Special Harmony $15.00 $4.50
356 Winning Belle $15.00 $4.50
169 Elvstroem $17.00 $5.00
193 Grey Song $17.00 $5.00
232 Makybe Diva $17.00 $5.00
248 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
362 Zagalia $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
266 Pacific Dancer $21.00 $6.00
319 Strasbourg $21.00 $6.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
365 Zingam $21.00 $6.00
156 Desert War $26.00 $7.25
192 Grand Armee $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
137 Confectioner $34.00 $9.25
157 Devastating $34.00 $9.25
175 Far Lane $34.00 $9.25
181 Free At Last $34.00 $9.25
255 Niello $34.00 $9.25
369 Muqbil Le $34.00 $9.25
370 Powerscourt Le $34.00 $9.25
160 Distinction $51.00 $13.50
161 Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
215 Kingside $51.00 $13.50
230 Maharib $51.00 $13.50
235 Manawa King $51.00 $13.50
279 Portland Singa $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
302 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
358 Wunderwood $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50

[purpleheart68]

Have backed 3 horses a month ago at huge odds
Confectioner@80/1
Strassbourg@33/1
Star of Gretchen@50/1
Just hope they get a run.

[Paddy]

Current market after a good weekend of racing - 50/1 & under:

354 Wild Iris $9.00 $3.00
151 Delzao $11.00 $3.50
203 Hugs Dancer $11.00 $3.50
232 Makybe Diva $13.00 $4.00
356 Winning Belle $15.00 $4.50
362 Zagalia $15.00 $4.50
169 Elvstroem $17.00 $5.00
193 Grey Song $17.00 $5.00
248 Mummify $17.00 $5.00
315 Special Harmony $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
266 Pacific Dancer $21.00 $6.00
319 Strasbourg $21.00 $6.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
365 Zingam $21.00 $6.00
156 Desert War $26.00 $7.25
160 Distinction $26.00 $7.25
192 Grand Armee $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
137 Confectioner $34.00 $9.25
157 Devastating $34.00 $9.25
175 Far Lane $34.00 $9.25
181 Free At Last $34.00 $9.25
255 Niello $34.00 $9.25
369 Muqbil Le $34.00 $9.25
370 Powerscourt Le $34.00 $9.25
109 Balmuse $51.00 $13.50
161 Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
215 Kingside $51.00 $13.50
230 Maharib $51.00 $13.50
235 Manawa King $51.00 $13.50
279 Portland Singa $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
302 Set Up $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
320 Studebaker $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
358 Wunderwood $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Wgt
1 BANDARI (IRE) Mark Johnston 58.5
2 POWERSCOURT (GB) Aidan O'Brien 57.5
3 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 57
4 HIGH ACCOLADE (GB) Marcus Tregoning 56
5 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 56
6 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
7 MAKTUB (ITY) Michael Jarvis 55
8 FAR LANE (USA) Tony McEvoy 54.5
9 MUQBIL (USA) John Dunlop 54.5
10 NIELLO John Hawkes 54.5
11 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 54
12 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute 54
13 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 54
14 GOLD MEDALLIST (GB) David Elsworth 54
15 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 53.5
16 WUNDERWOOD (USA) Lady Herries 53.5
17 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 53
18 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 52.5
19 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 52.5
20 SPECIAL HARMONY Lee Freedman 52.5
21 ZAZZMAN Tony Vasil 52.5
22 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 52
23 COUNTY TYRONE Kris Lees 52
24 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 52
25 LASHED Graeme Rogerson 52
26 LORD WOBURN (NZ) Allan Sharrock 52
27 MAHARIB (IRE) Dermot Weld 52
28 ROMANY PRINCE (GB) David Elsworth 52
29 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 52
30 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes 52
31 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody 52
32 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter 51.5
33 BRAMBLE ROSE (NZ) Mark Todd 51.5
34 DANESTORM Rodney Douglas 51.5
35 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 51.5
36 PENNY GEM (NZ) Michael Moroney 51.5
37 ROSINA LAD (NZ) David Haworth 51.5
38 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse 51.5
39 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 51.5
40 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 51.5
41 ANOTHER WARRIOR Alan Bailey 51
42 BEDOUIN Darren Smith 51
43 CELTUS Lee Freedman 51
44 CUT THE CAKE (NZ) Michael Moroney 51
45 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh 51
46 PANTANI (NZ) Robbie Laing 51
47 PHYSIQUE Len Treloar 51
48 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon 51
49 DOWRY (NZ) Murray Baker 50.5
50 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 50.5
51 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney 50.5
52 SO ASSERTIVE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 50.5
53 TALL TIMBERS Danny O'Brien 50.5
54 WEST COUNTRY Steve Englebrecht 50.5
55 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 50
56 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins 50
57 IRISH CRUSADER (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith 50
58 KABLAMMO Danny Williams 50
59 KING OF THEM ALL Bruce Marsh 50
60 MANAWA KING (NZ) Rodney Douglas 50
61 MR AMERICAN GOTHIC (GB) Colin Alderson 50
62 PENITENTIARY (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 50
63 SATURDAY FEVER Tony McEvoy 50
64 SUBTLE IRONY Paul Preusker 50
65 TSUIMAI Jack Denham 50
66 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil 50
67 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 50
68 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter 50
69 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy 49.5
70 DANEBOROGH Bart Cummings 49.5
71 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 49.5
72 DIAMOND JAKE Brian Mayfield-Smith 49.5
73 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 49.5
74 GALLIC (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 49.5
75 GENERAL BOOTH (NZ) Tony Vasil 49.5
76 MR O'HARA John Symons 49.5
77 NOVEMBER DREAMING Bart Cummings 49.5
78 ODYSSEUS Lee Freedman 49.5
79 PERLIN (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 49.5
80 PRETORIUS (NZ) Brian Mayfield-Smith 49.5
81 REEF BEACH Lee Freedman 49.5
82 RINKY DINK Rick Hore-Lacy 49.5
83 SET UP Graeme Rogerson 49.5
84 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne 49.5
85 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 49.5
86 ZUMANITY (NZ) John O'Shea 49.5
87 AZTECO (NZ) Mark Minervini 49
88 BEAU Myffy Rae 49
89 BEERBOHM TREE John Symons 49
90 BONDY Tony Vasil 49
91 BRUGES (NZ) Colin Little 49
92 BUTTEN SHAW Lee Freedman 49
93 CAPE KENNEDY Cliff Brown 49
94 CASSIMIR (NZ) Peter G Moody 49
95 CATCHMEIFYOUCAN (NZ) Michael Moroney 49
96 DANASRI (NZ) Bart Cummings 49
97 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 49
98 DERRY DOWNS Denis Phelan 49
99 DON RAPHAEL Kerry Parker 49
100 ECO WARRIOR Erwin Takacs 49
101 EXPANSIVE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 49
102 FOREST PRIDE Sheila Laxon 49
103 GALVANIZED Lee Freedman 49
104 GENEROSA (NZ) Bart Cummings 49
105 HURRY ON SPEC Elsie Green 49
106 ITEMISE (USA) Guy Walter 49
107 KINGSIDE (NZ) Bart Cummings 49
108 LET'S DISCO (NZ) Mark Todd 49
109 LITTLE BALDY Terry O'Sullivan 49
110 MALTA Bart Cummings 49
111 MBELE (GB) Ronald Hutchinson 49
112 MUTATE Mick Price 49
113 MY CHANTICLEER Bart Cummings 49
114 NIKALAPKO Tony McEvoy 49
115 OUR SMOKING JOE Lee Freedman 49
116 POINT OF HONOUR Gai Waterhouse 49
117 RIZON Cliff Brown 49
118 SCREAMING FIRE Tony McEvoy 49
119 SET DAYAN David Chapman 49
120 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 49
121 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 49
122 SIR PENTIRE (NZ) Robbie Laing 49
123 STANICA (NZ) Mark Todd 49
124 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 49
125 SUNDAY SERVICE John Hawkes 49
126 SUNRAYSIA Rodney Douglas 49
127 TINGIRANA (NZ) Jeremy Gask 49
128 TINTAGEL (NZ) Lee Freedman 49
129 TOMORROW'S PARTY (NZ) Michael Moroney 49
130 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 49
131 YOU LITTLE BEAUT Tony McEvoy 49
132 ZALOOT (NZ) Bart Cummings 49
133 AL MAHER Gai Waterhouse 47
134 CALORIFIC Michael Moroney 47
135 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 47

[Paddy]

Current market after another good weekend of racing - 50/1 & under:

354 Wild Iris $8.00 $2.75
151 Delzao $11.00 $3.50
169 Elvstroem $11.00 $3.50
203 Hugs Dancer $11.00 $3.50
362 Zagalia $11.00 $3.50
232 Makybe Diva $13.00 $4.00
137 Confectioner $17.00 $5.00
193 Grey Song $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
356 Winning Belle $21.00 $6.00
157 Devastating $26.00 $7.25
160 Distinction $26.00 $7.25
248 Mummify $26.00 $7.25
266 Pacific Dancer $26.00 $7.25
319 Strasbourg $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
175 Far Lane $34.00 $9.25
181 Free At Last $34.00 $9.25
192 Grand Armee $34.00 $9.25
235 Manawa King $34.00 $9.25
315 Special Harmony $34.00 $9.25
365 Zingam $34.00 $9.25
109 Balmuse $51.00 $13.50
252 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
320 Studebaker $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 1 56
2 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 2 55.5
3 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 3 54
4 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute 4 54
5 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 5 54
6 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 6 53.5
7 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 7 53
8 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 8 52.5
9 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 9 52.5
10 ZAZZMAN Tony Vasil 10 52.5
11 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 11 52
12 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 12 52
13 LASHED Graeme Rogerson 13 52
14 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 14 52
15 STUDEBAKER (NZ) John Hawkes 15 52
16 ZACIELO (NZ) Peter G Moody 16 52
17 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter 17 51.5
18 DANESTORM Rodney Douglas 18 51.5
19 MISS POTENTIAL Bill Borrie 19 51.5
20 SHAMEKHA Gai Waterhouse 20 51.5
21 WILD IRIS Guy Walter 21 51.5
22 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 22 51.5
23 ANOTHER WARRIOR Alan Bailey 23 51
24 CELTUS Lee Freedman 24 51
25 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy 25 51 1.5
26 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh 26 51
27 PANTANI (NZ) Robbie Laing 27 51
28 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon 28 51
29 DOWRY (NZ) Murray Baker 29 50.5
30 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 30 50.5
31 PORTLAND SINGA (NZ) Neville McBurney 31 50.5
32 SO ASSERTIVE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 32 50.5
33 TALL TIMBERS Danny O'Brien 33 50.5
34 WEST COUNTRY Steve Englebrecht 34 50.5
35 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 35 50
36 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins 36 50
37 KABLAMMO Danny Williams 37 50
38 MANAWA KING (NZ) Rodney Douglas 38 50
39 MR AMERICAN GOTHIC (GB) Colin Alderson 39 50
40 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil 40 50
41 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 41 50
42 ZINGAM (NZ) Guy Walter 42 50
43 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 43 49.5
44 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 44 49.5
45 GENERAL BOOTH (NZ) Tony Vasil 45 49.5
46 MR O'HARA John Symons 46 49.5
47 NOVEMBER DREAMING Bart Cummings 47 49.5
48 RINKY DINK Rick Hore-Lacy 48 49.5
49 SET UP Graeme Rogerson 49 49.5
50 UNEARTHLY (NZ) David Payne 50 49.5
51 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 51 49.5
52 ZUMANITY (NZ) John O'Shea 52 49.5
53 BONDY Tony Vasil 53 49
54 BRUGES (NZ) Colin Little 54 49
55 CAPE KENNEDY Cliff Brown 55 49
56 CATCHMEIFYOUCAN (NZ) Michael Moroney 56 49
57 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 57 49
58 FOREST PRIDE Sheila Laxon 58 49
59 GALVANIZED Lee Freedman 59 49
60 GENEROSA (NZ) Bart Cummings 60 49
61 HURRY ON SPEC Elsie Green 61 49
62 MUTATE Mick Price 62 49
63 NIKALAPKO Tony McEvoy 63 49
64 OUR SMOKING JOE Lee Freedman 64 49
65 RIZON Cliff Brown 65 49
66 SCREAMING FIRE Tony McEvoy 66 49
67 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson 67 49
68 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings 68 49
69 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 69 49
70 SUNDAY SERVICE John Hawkes 70 49
71 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 71 49
72 AL MAHER Gai Waterhouse 72 47
73 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 73 47

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market, all remaining nominations:

354 Wild Iris $8.00 $2.75
151 Delzao $10.00 $3.25
169 Elvstroem $10.00 $3.25
203 Hugs Dancer $10.00 $3.25
362 Zagalia $10.00 $3.25
137 Confectioner $13.00 $4.00
232 Makybe Diva $13.00 $4.00
157 Devastating $17.00 $5.00
193 Grey Song $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
356 Winning Belle $21.00 $6.00
160 Distinction $26.00 $7.25
248 Mummify $26.00 $7.25
266 Pacific Dancer $26.00 $7.25
319 Strasbourg $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
181 Free At Last $34.00 $9.25
235 Manawa King $34.00 $9.25
365 Zingam $34.00 $9.25
109 Balmuse $51.00 $13.50
252 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
279 Portland Singa $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
317 Star of Gretchen $51.00 $13.50
320 Studebaker $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
352 West Country $51.00 $13.50
361 Zacielo $51.00 $13.50
135 Celtus $67.00 $17.50
147 Danestorm $67.00 $17.50
156 Desert War $67.00 $17.50
161 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $17.50
303 Seul Amour $67.00 $17.50
304 Shamekha $67.00 $17.50
343 Under The Bridge $67.00 $17.50
345 Upsetthym $67.00 $17.50
364 Zazzman $67.00 $17.50
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $81.00 $21.00
196 Hard To Get $81.00 $21.00
145 Dane Belltar $101.00 $26.00
164 Dowry $101.00 $26.00
184 Galvanized $101.00 $26.00
222 Lashed $101.00 $26.00
290 Roman Arch $101.00 $26.00
302 Set Up $101.00 $26.00
344 Unearthly $101.00 $26.00
106 Another Warrior $126.00 $32.25
241 Miss Potential $126.00 $32.25
289 Rizon $126.00 $32.25
297 Savabeel $126.00 $32.25
307 Sir Beal $126.00 $32.25
311 So Assertive $126.00 $32.25
323 Sunday Service $126.00 $32.25
210 Kablammo $151.00 $38.50
244 Mr American Gothic $151.00 $38.50
260 November Dreaming $151.00 $38.50
264 Our Smoking Joe $151.00 $38.50
268 Pantani $151.00 $38.50
359 Yakama $151.00 $38.50
103 Al Maher $201.00 $51.00
124 Bruges $201.00 $51.00
186 Generosa $201.00 $51.00
245 Mr O'hara $201.00 $51.00
299 Screaming Fire $201.00 $51.00
185 General Booth $251.00 $63.50
249 Mutate $251.00 $63.50
120 Bondy $301.00 $76.00
129 Cape Kennedy $301.00 $76.00
132 Catchmeifyoucan $301.00 $76.00
178 Forest Pride $301.00 $76.00
205 Hurry On Spec $301.00 $76.00
256 Nikalapko $301.00 $76.00

[william]

Wild Iris
Delzao
Elvstroem
Hugs Dancer

[goldmember]

I cant believe people are serious, tipping Delzao and Elvstroem, Delzao is a good miler,thats all, while Elvstroem cant stay and is the biggest CAT,meow..meow.. i have seen in years,if i was a bookie i would lay them both all day long.

[Starcraft]

Stupid question, probably, but is this seriously the size of the initial cox plate lineup? It starts with around 300 that get eliminated or something? I thought I heard there's only 8 runners or something this year, and so far, doesn't seem as though Starcraft is one of them? Please tell me this is not true!

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
354 Wild Iris $8.00 $2.75
151 Delzao $10.00 $3.25
169 Elvstroem $10.00 $3.25
203 Hugs Dancer $10.00 $3.25
362 Zagalia $10.00 $3.25
137 Confectioner $13.00 $4.00
232 Makybe Diva $13.00 $4.00
157 Devastating $17.00 $5.00
366 Zumanity $17.00 $5.00
193 Grey Song $21.00 $6.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
160 Distinction $26.00 $7.25
248 Mummify $26.00 $7.25
266 Pacific Dancer $26.00 $7.25
356 Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
181 Free At Last $34.00 $9.25
319 Strasbourg $34.00 $9.25
109 Balmuse $51.00 $13.50
252 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
320 Studebaker $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
343 Under The Bridge $51.00 $13.50
365 Zingam $51.00 $13.50
156 Desert War $67.00 $17.50
161 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $17.50
235 Manawa King $67.00 $17.50
279 Portland Singa $67.00 $17.50
304 Shamekha $67.00 $17.50
317 Star of Gretchen $67.00 $17.50
345 Upsetthym $67.00 $17.50
352 West Country $67.00 $17.50
361 Zacielo $67.00 $17.50
364 Zazzman $67.00 $17.50
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $81.00 $21.00
145 Dane Belltar $101.00 $26.00
147 Danestorm $101.00 $26.00
164 Dowry $101.00 $26.00
184 Galvanized $101.00 $26.00
196 Hard To Get $101.00 $26.00
222 Lashed $101.00 $26.00
290 Roman Arch $101.00 $26.00
303 Seul Amour $101.00 $26.00
106 Another Warrior $126.00 $32.25
135 Celtus $126.00 $32.25
241 Miss Potential $126.00 $32.25
297 Savabeel $126.00 $32.25
307 Sir Beal $126.00 $32.25
311 So Assertive $126.00 $32.25
344 Unearthly $126.00 $32.25
210 Kablammo $151.00 $38.50
244 Mr American Gothic $151.00 $38.50
260 November Dreaming $151.00 $38.50
264 Our Smoking Joe $151.00 $38.50
268 Pantani $151.00 $38.50
289 Rizon $151.00 $38.50
302 Set Up $151.00 $38.50
323 Sunday Service $151.00 $38.50
359 Yakama $151.00 $38.50
103 Al Maher $201.00 $51.00
124 Bruges $201.00 $51.00
186 Generosa $201.00 $51.00
245 Mr O'hara $201.00 $51.00
299 Screaming Fire $201.00 $51.00
185 General Booth $251.00 $63.50
249 Mutate $251.00 $63.50
120 Bondy $301.00 $76.00
129 Cape Kennedy $301.00 $76.00
132 Catchmeifyoucan $301.00 $76.00
178 Forest Pride $301.00 $76.00
205 Hurry On Spec $301.00 $76.00
256 Nikalapko $301.00 $76.00

[Paddy]

Darren Beadman has been booked to ride Distinctly Secret in the Caulfield Cup.

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market, 50/1 & under:


No. Selection Win Place
169 Elvstroem $7.00 $2.50
203 Hugs Dancer $7.00 $2.50
232 Makybe Diva $9.00 $3.00
137 Confectioner $11.00 $3.50
248 Mummify $15.00 $4.50
109 Balmuse $17.00 $5.00
151 Delzao $17.00 $5.00
157 Devastating $17.00 $5.00
160 Distinction $17.00 $5.00
362 Zagalia $17.00 $5.00
156 Desert War $21.00 $6.00
193 Grey Song $21.00 $6.00
349 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
266 Pacific Dancer $26.00 $7.25
319 Strasbourg $26.00 $7.25
356 Winning Belle $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $34.00 $9.25
181 Free At Last $34.00 $9.25
366 Zumanity $34.00 $9.25
161 Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
252 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
297 Savabeel $51.00 $13.50
320 Studebaker $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
343 Under The Bridge $51.00 $13.50

[Paddy]

Market movement – current top 10

Elvstroem $7.00 WAS $10.00
Hugs Dancer $7.00 WAS $10.00
Makybe Diva $9.00 WAS $13.00
Confectioner $11.00 WAS $13.00
Mummify $15.00 WAS $26.00
Balmuse $17.00 WAS $51.00
Delzao $17.00 WAS $10.00
Devastating $17.00 WAS $17.00
Distinction $17.00 WAS $26.00
Zagalia $17.00 WAS $10.00

[Paddy]

Caulfield Cup penalites for the weekend winners:

DESERT WAR + 2.5kg now 52.0kg
For winning the Epsom Handicap [G1]
YAKAMA +1.0kg now 50.0kg
For winning the Flemington Bart Cummings Handicap
GENERAL BOOTH no re-handicap – remains 49.5kg
For winning the Benalla Gold Cup

[Paddy]

3RD ACCEPTORS

No Horse Trainer Weight Penalty

1 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 50
2 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 52
3 BRAELOCH (NZ) Guy Walter 51.5
4 CAPE KENNEDY Cliff Brown 49
5 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy 51 1.5
6 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 49
7 DANESTORM Rodney Douglas 51.5
8 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 54
9 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 52 2.5
10 DEVASTATING (NZ) John Collins 50
11 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute 54
12 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 53.5
13 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 54
14 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 49.5
15 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 52
16 HARD TO GET Mark Kavanagh 51
17 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 52.5
18 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
19 MR O'HARA John Symons 49.5
20 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 56
21 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 53
22 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 50.5
23 RINKY DINK Rick Hore-Lacy 49.5
24 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 52.5
25 SET UP Graeme Rogerson 49.5
26 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 49
27 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 52
28 TALL TIMBERS Danny O'Brien 50.5
29 UNDER THE BRIDGE Tony Vasil 50
30 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon 51
31 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 50
32 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 49.5
33 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 50 1.0
34 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 51.5
35 ZAZZMAN Tony Vasil 52.5
36 ZUMANITY (NZ) John O'Shea 49.5

[Paddy]

Order of entry:

Position Horse Trainer
1 Elvstroem (Tony Vasil)
2 Makybe Diva (GB) (Lee Freedman)
3 Mummify (Lee Freedman)
4 Delzao (Greg Kavanagh)
5= Distinction (IRE) (Michael Stoute)
5= Vouvray (NZ) (Peter G Moody)
5= Zagalia (NZ) (Clarry Conners)
8= Desert War (Gai Waterhouse) [inc 2.5kg pen]
8= Distinctly Secret (NZ) (Mark Walker)
8= Rinky Dink (Rick Hore-Lacy)
8= Upsetthym (NZ) (Karen Fursdon)
8= Winning Belle (NZ) (Gai Waterhouse)
8= Zumanity (NZ) (John O'Shea)
14= Braeloch (NZ) (Guy Walter)
14= Natural Blitz (Doug Harrison)
16= Ain't Seen Nothin' (Barbara Joseph)
16= Confectioner (Tony McEvoy) [inc 1.5kg pen]
16= Hard to Get (Mark Kavanagh)
16= Hugs Dancer (FR) (Tony McEvoy)
16= Roman Arch (Mick Whittle)
16= Yakama (Bevan Laming) [inc 1.0kg pen]
16= Zazzman (Tony Vasil)
23= Balmuse (NZ) (Kevin Myers)
23= Dane Belltar (Leon Macdonald)
23= Free At Last (NZ) (Alan Mathews)
23= Grey Song (Tom Hughes (Jnr))
23= Pacific Dancer (NZ) (Shaun Dwyer)
23= Star of Gretchen (NZ) (Peter G Moody)
23= Strasbourg (Bart Cummings)
30= Danestorm (Rodney Douglas)
30= Devastating (NZ) (John Collins)
30= Under the Bridge (Tony Vasil)
33 Set Up (Graeme Rogerson)
34 Tall Timbers (Danny O'Brien)

[Paddy]

Current market:

No. Selection Win Place
169 Elvstroem $5.00 $2.00
137 Confectioner $7.00 $2.50
156 Desert War $9.00 $3.00
203 Hugs Dancer $9.00 $3.00
232 Makybe Diva $9.00 $3.00
248 Mummify $11.00 $3.50
160 Distinction $15.00 $4.50
349 Vouvray $15.00 $4.50
362 Zagalia $17.00 $5.00
151 Delzao $21.00 $6.00
356 Winning Belle $21.00 $6.00
109 Balmuse $26.00 $7.25
121 Braeloch $26.00 $7.25
366 Zumanity $26.00 $7.25
157 Devastating $41.00 $11.00
193 Grey Song $41.00 $11.00
266 Pacific Dancer $41.00 $11.00
345 Upsetthym $41.00 $11.00
161 Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
181 Free At Last $51.00 $13.50
252 Natural Blitz $51.00 $13.50
288 Rinky Dink $51.00 $13.50
319 Strasbourg $51.00 $13.50
326 Tall Timbers $51.00 $13.50
343 Under The Bridge $67.00 $17.50
364 Zazzman $81.00 $21.00
101 Ain't Seen Nothin' $101.00 $26.00
196 Hard To Get $101.00 $26.00
290 Roman Arch $101.00 $26.00
359 Yakama $101.00 $26.00
145 Dane Belltar $151.00 $38.50
147 Danestorm $151.00 $38.50
302 Set Up $151.00 $38.50
317 Star of Gretchen $151.00 $38.50
245 Mr O'hara $201.00 $51.00
129 Cape Kennedy $301.00 $76.00

[jaffa]

Oaks Double big chance for Caulfield success.

Having been fortunate enough to quinella the Qld oaks with Zumanity and Vouray, I think they can do it again in the Caulfield.

Have a look at the leisurely gallop oshea had Zummanity with Mertens up put in on Sat. The Yalumba will bring her 100 % to her top.

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No Selection Win Price Place Price

169 ELVSTROEM $4.50 $1.85
137 CONFECTIONER $6.50 $2.35
248 MUMMIFY $6.50 $2.35
203 HUGS DANCER $7.50 $2.60
156 DESERT WAR $9.00 $3.00
232 MAKYBE DIVA $9.00 $3.00
160 DISTINCTION $15.00 $4.50
349 VOUVRAY $15.00 $4.50
356 WINNING BELLE $17.00 $5.00
362 ZAGALIA $17.00 $5.00
151 DELZAO $21.00 $6.00
109 BALMUSE $26.00 $7.25
366 ZUMANITY $26.00 $7.25
345 UPSETTHYM $41.00 $11.00
121 BRAELOCH $51.00 $13.50
161 DISTINCTLY SECRET $51.00 $13.50
181 FREE AT LAST $67.00 $17.50
193 GREY SONG $67.00 $17.50
252 NATURAL BLITZ $67.00 $17.50
288 RINKY DINK $67.00 $17.50
319 STRASBOURG $81.00 $21.00
101 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' $101.00 $26.00
290 ROMAN ARCH $101.00 $26.00
326 TALL TIMBERS $101.00 $26.00
359 YAKAMA $101.00 $26.00
343 UNDER THE BRIDGE $126.00 $32.25
364 ZAZZMAN $126.00 $32.25
157 DEVASTATING $151.00 $38.50
196 HARD TO GET $151.00 $38.50
266 PACIFIC DANCER $151.00 $38.50
317 STAR OF GRETCHEN $151.00 $38.50
145 DANE BELLTAR $201.00 $51.00
245 MR O'HARA $201.00 $51.00
302 SET UP $201.00 $51.00
129 CAPE KENNEDY $301.00 $76.00

[Paddy]

Market movement - those currently under 50/1:

No Selection NOW WAS

169 ELVSTROEM $4.50 $5.00
137 CONFECTIONER $6.50 $7.00
248 MUMMIFY $6.50 $11.00
203 HUGS DANCER $7.50 $9.00
156 DESERT WAR $9.00 $9.00
232 MAKYBE DIVA $9.00 $9.00
160 DISTINCTION $15.00 $15.00
349 VOUVRAY $15.00 $15.00
356 WINNING BELLE $17.00 $21.00
362 ZAGALIA $17.00 $17.00
151 DELZAO $21.00 $21.00
109 BALMUSE $26.00 $26.00
366 ZUMANITY $26.00 $26.00
345 UPSETTHYM $41.00 $41.00

[bagwon]

GREY SONG $67.00 / $17.50 !!

That will do me EW!!

[Matilda]

Where can you get such odds?. Grey might not qualify anyway...

[Northerly]

Grey Song = 23rd, very unlikely to get in the 18, might get in as an emergency.

Unlikely runners above him are
Braeloch
Hard To Get
Natural Blitz
Rinky Dink (may still run, but others almost certainly out)

[Raw Instinct]

Right now I am looking for a bit of value and I like the look of 2 kiwis in Vouvray and Balmuse. Vouvray first up run was sensational and she did pretty much win the QLD Oaks off of a spell so it would seem she doesnot need alot of racing to get right even at the distance. Balmuse might be the best horse we have seen from NZ since the mighty Sunline retired I have an extremely high opinion of this horse wouldn't be surprised if he runs a huge race in this.


Just out of interest does anyone know what happened to Braeloch the other day he seemed to take a very awkward step just before he shot back through the field like a cannon was just wondering if there was something wrong with the horse.

[catweazle]

On 2004-10-11 19:18, Northerly wrote:
Grey Song = 23rd, very unlikely to get in the 18, might get in as an emergency.

Unlikely runners above him are
Braeloch
Hard To Get
Natural Blitz
Rinky Dink (may still run, but others almost certainly out)


Only a few positions but thought GS was sitting in 20th posi.

[Northerly]

Balmuse, is also ranked =23rd. So could be risky backing him before tomorrows final acceptances.

The only thing I heard about Braeloch was that he was highly unlikely to run in the Caulfield Cup after his shocker in the Yalumba.

[Matilda]

Read the paper saying that Braeloch is a no runner in C.Cup.
Grey Song and Balmuse might get the chance to enter by committee as both have good forms.

[Matilda]

They are equal 20th not 23rd.

[Northerly]

the 3 that could be under threat to miss because of the commitee are
Roman Arch
Yakama
Zazzman

Also, last I heard was that Delzao's owners were still deciding whether to go to the CC or Cox Plate.

[Northerly]

I got the Order of Entry from http://www.springracingcarnival.com that they only posted today. Now I look closer it is dated 5/10. Still has Braeloch etc in the Order.
Where could I find the latest one?

[bagwon]

On 2004-10-11 13:19, Matilda wrote:
Where can you get such odds?. Grey might not qualify anyway...



NSWTAB

[catweazle]

Betting on Rinky Dink suspended.

[roman@oz]

Looks like Braeloch is out as well.

[puntersteve]

On 2004-09-27 20:21, Paddy wrote:
Darren Beadman has been booked to ride Distinctly Secret in the Caulfield Cup.



I've had a dabble (EW), currently listed at 50/1! Rate Distinctly Secret (on best form) up with the leading lights and is assured of a start.

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 56
2 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman 55.5
3 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh 54
4 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute 54
5 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil 54
6 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker 53.5
7 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy 52.5
8 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle 52.5
9 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 52
10 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 52 2.5
11 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) 52
12 STRASBOURG Bart Cummings 52
13 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners 51.5
14 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy 51 1.5
15 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon 51
16 PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 50.5
17 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 50
18 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 50
19 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 50 1.0
20 FREE AT LAST (NZ) Alan Mathews 49.5
21 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse 49.5
22 DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald 49
23 STAR OF GRETCHEN (NZ) Peter G Moody 49

[Paddy]

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Weight

1 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman D Nikolic 56
2 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman G Boss 55.5
3 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh Steven King 54
4 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute D Oliver 54
5 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil N Rawiller 54
6 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker D Beadman 53.5
7 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy G Childs 52.5
8 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle L Nolen 52.5
9 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers 52
10 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse S Seamer 52
11 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) D Beasley 52
12 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners M J Walker 51.5
13 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy R S Dye 51
14 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon R McLeod 51
15 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph 50
16 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody C Munce 50
17 YAKAMA Bevan Laming 50
18 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse S Baster 49.5
19E STRASBOURG Bart Cummings S Baster 52
20E PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 50.5
21E DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald Ms C Lindop 49


_________________
May the luck of the Irish be with you!



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[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
005 Elvstroem $4.00 $1.75
001 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
013 Confectioner $6.50 $2.35
007 Hugs Dancer $9.00 $3.00
010 Desert War $9.00 $3.00
002 Makybe Diva $11.00 $3.50
004 Distinction $17.00 $5.00
009 Balmuse $17.00 $5.00
016 Vouvray $17.00 $5.00
018 Winning Belle $17.00 $5.00
003 Delzao $21.00 $6.00
012 Zagalia $21.00 $6.00
006 Distinctly Secret $51.00 $13.50
008 Roman Arch $51.00 $13.50
011 Grey Song $51.00 $13.50
014 Upsetthym $51.00 $13.50
019 Strasbourg 1em $51.00 $13.50
020 Pacific Dancer 2em $51.00 $13.50
017 Yakama $67.00 $17.50
015 Ain't Seen Nothin' $101.00 $26.00
021 Dane Belltar 3em $101.00 $26.00




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[glenn101]

5 ELVSTROEM
10 DESERT WAR
1 MUMMIFY
13 CONFECTIONER

[Radar67]

10 Desert War
1 Mummify
7 Hugs Dancer
17 Yakama

[Matilda]

Any comment why Yakama and Grey Song have such great odds?. Yakama has a good dist record and Grey Sond can always upset the lot. Remember that he did give a great fight to Mummify in last year C.Cup. Might do it again this year.

[justinfront]

Looking at Grey Song's overall stats:-
46 Starts for 5 wins.
Dist 11-1:2:2
Track 14-1:5:0

Can see why at current odds, considering top market chances are all in good form.


Yakama is a little better.
37 Starts for 8 wins.
Dist 3-2:0:1
Track 6-1:0:1


I'd focus for a place.

[Matilda]

2004 CARLTON DRAUGHT CAULFIELD CUP

Saturday October 16 - 4.05pm

$2,515,000; 2400 metres

1 Mummify Danny Nikolic (8) 56
2 Makybe Diva Glen Boss (20) 55.5
3 Delzao Steven King (9) 54
4 Distinction Damien Oliver (7) 54
5 Elvstroem Nash Rawiller (4) 54
6 Distinctly Secret Darren Beadman (21) 53.5
7 Hugs Dancer Greg Childs (12) 52.5
8 Roman Arch Luke Nolen (19) 52.5
9 Balmuse Corey Brown (2) 52
10 Desert War Scott Seamer (1) 52
11 Grey Song Danny Beasley (13) 52
12 Zagalia Michael Walker (5) 51.5
13 Confectioner Shane Dye (10) 51
14 Upsetthym Rhys McLeod (17) 51
15 Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Blake Shinn (6) 50
16 Vouvray Chris Munce (14) 50
17 Yakama Mark Zahra (16) 50
18 Winning Belle Stephen Baster (11) 49.5

EMERGENCIES:

19 Strasbourg ---- (15) 52
20 Pacific Dancer ---- (18) 50.5
21 Dane Belltar Clare Lindop (3) 49

[Mr ed]

The more i look at this race the more i am leaning towards Balmuse, he won in devastating style last start when he had two kg more then Starcraft, drops a massive 7 kg for this, drawn barrier 2, good chance. Elvstroem will be extremely hard to beat from barrier 4 however, perhaps a quinella.

[Matilda]

I like Confectioner which ran very well inTurnbull when lost by 1.75 length to Elvstroem. Now he is getting 1.5Kg better than Elv. Shane Dye should do the job for Tony McEvoy who are in great form. From Barrier 10 is perfect for Conf. Still rate Elv as the main danger and 4 other outsider (Grey Song, Vouvray, Mummify and Hugs Dancer) as the other place getter.

For Balmuse, barrier 2 might be to inside for him as he might get trapped as he is a backmarker.

[bwuce]

MUMMIFY
MAKYBE DIVA
ZAGALIA
ELVSTROEM

[Raw Instinct]

It might hurt Balmuse being inside or it might work the other way he could get a dream run when they all fan out on the corner I know I will be on him and the barrier just made it that much more comfortable backing him.

[sportznut]

Distinction is a scratching this morning.

[Paddy]

On 2004-10-14 07:30, sportznut wrote:
Distinction is a scratching this morning.


Yep. Scratched at 6:30 this morning on vet’s advice.

[whiterhino]

On 2004-10-14 08:40, Paddy wrote:

On 2004-10-14 07:30, sportznut wrote:
Distinction is a scratching this morning.


Yep. Scratched at 6:30 this morning on vet’s advice.




bummer!! thought Distinction had a strong EW chance!

[Paddy]

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman D Nikolic 8 56
2 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman G Boss 20 55.5
3 DELZAO Greg Kavanagh Steven King 9 54
4 DISTINCTION (IRE) Michael Stoute D Oliver 7 54
5 ELVSTROEM Tony Vasil N Rawiller 4 54
6 DISTINCTLY SECRET (NZ) Mark Walker D Beadman 21 53.5
7 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy G Childs 12 52.5
8 ROMAN ARCH Mick Whittle L Nolen 19 52.5
9 BALMUSE (NZ) Kevin Myers C Brown 2 52
10 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse S Seamer 1 52 2.5
11 GREY SONG Tom Hughes (Jnr) D Beasley 13 52
12 ZAGALIA (NZ) Clarry Conners M J Walker 5 51.5
13 CONFECTIONER Tony McEvoy R S Dye 10 51 1.5
14 UPSETTHYM (NZ) Karen Fursdon R McLeod 17 51
15 AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN' Barbara Joseph B Shinn (a) 6 50
16 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody C Munce 14 50
17 YAKAMA Bevan Laming M J Zahra 16 50
18 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse M Pumpa 11 49.5
19E STRASBOURG Bart Cummings S Baster 15 52
20E PACIFIC DANCER (NZ) Shaun Dwyer 18 50.5
21E DANE BELLTAR Leon Macdonald Ms C Lindop 3 49

[Matilda]

Hi all,

Can anyone tells me what is or what will the weather and track condition at Caulfield now and forecasted?

[Paddy]

Current WIN & PLACE fixed odds:

No. Selection Win Place
005 Elvstroem $3.75 $1.65
001 Mummify $6.50 $2.35
013 Confectioner $6.50 $2.35
007 Hugs Dancer $10.00 $3.25
010 Desert War $10.00 $3.25
002 Makybe Diva $13.00 $4.00
009 Balmuse $13.00 $4.00
018 Winning Belle $17.00 $5.00
003 Delzao $21.00 $6.00
016 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
011 Grey Song $26.00 $7.25
012 Zagalia $26.00 $7.25
019 Strasbourg 1em $34.00 $9.25
020 Pacific Dancer 2em $51.00 $13.50
006 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $17.50
008 Roman Arch $67.00 $17.50
015 Ain't Seen Nothin' $67.00 $17.50
014 Upsetthym $81.00 $21.00
017 Yakama $81.00 $21.00
021 Dane Belltar 3em $126.00 $32.25
004 Distinction Scratched Scratched

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

No. Selection NOW WAS

005 Elvstroem $3.75 $4.00
001 Mummify $6.50 $6.50
013 Confectioner $6.50 $6.50
007 Hugs Dancer $10.00 $9.00
010 Desert War $10.00 $9.00
002 Makybe Diva $13.00 $11.00
009 Balmuse $13.00 $17.00
018 Winning Belle $17.00 $17.00
003 Delzao $21.00 $21.00
016 Vouvray $21.00 $17.00
011 Grey Song $26.00 $51.00
012 Zagalia $26.00 $21.00
019 Strasbourg 1em $34.00 $51.00
020 Pacific Dancer 2em $51.00 $51.00
006 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $51.00
008 Roman Arch $67.00 $51.00
015 Ain't Seen Nothin' $67.00 $101.00
014 Upsetthym $81.00 $51.00
017 Yakama $81.00 $67.00
021 Dane Belltar 3em $126.00 $32.25
004 Distinction Scratched Scratched

[bl4dez]

MUMMIFY
ELVSTROEM
HUGS DANCER
ZAGALIA

[ShoeIn]

Hugs Dancer
Mummify
Makybe Diva

I will be in Melbourne next week for the Cox Plate, cannot wait!

Good Punting
ShoeIn

[fast eddy]

Elvestroem
Strasbourg
Balmuse
Confectioner

[Seeker11]

Looks like an excellent race with many chances I can only narrow it down to these:

BALMUSE
ELVSTOEM
MUMMIFY
CONFECTIONER
(with some hope to DELZAO, HUGS DANCER & DESERT WAR)

Roughies: UPSETTHYM (70/1), DISTINCTLY SECRET (100/1) (fixed S-Tab)
Neither likely, but on best form both could be a big surprise like Econsul last week


_________________
may the horse be with you

Seeker


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[mug punta]

Why is BALMUSE such a good price?
I reckon it should be about 6 or 7-1

[fast eddy]

On 2004-10-15 13:57, mug punta wrote:
Why is BALMUSE such a good price?
I reckon it should be about 6 or 7-1


Might be because he has never raced over 2040m before? or not raced in Aussie and the bookies are unable to get a handle on him? Just my thoughts, no doubt someone will no know for sure.

[headsNtails]

5 ELVSTROEM
13 CONFECTIONER
1 MUMMIFY
7 HUGS DANCER

[Matilda]

On 2004-10-15 13:57, mug punta wrote:
Why is BALMUSE such a good price?
I reckon it should be about 6 or 7-1


Might because of barrier 2 and he is a back marker. Might get stuck with big field.

[Matilda]

Confectioner
Elvstroem
Grey Song
Upsetthym

[Chuck]

Hugs dancer
Mummify
Makybe Diva
Delzao
Roman Arch

[smidgin]

MAKYBE DIVA
DESERT WAR
ZAGALIA
MUMMIFY

[rabbitz]

BALMUSE
MAKYBE DIVA
DELZAO
WINNING BELLE

[maverick1993]

Delzao
Hugs Dancer
Elvis
Confectioner

would also have Mumify, Zagalia, balmuse and desert war in the multis....a heap of chances ...and heaps of value :wink:

[NANOOK]

My $30.00 trifecta for the race:

1*5
1*5*10*13*16*19
1*5*6*8*10*13*16*19

[bl4dez]

1
5* 12 7*
5* 12 7* 13*
5* 12* 7* 13* 16*

[Sporty]

(9) BALMUSE
(13) CONFECTIONER
(11) GREY SONG
(17) YAKAMA

[Paddy]

Current fixed odds market:

No. Selection Win Place
005 Elvstroem $3.75 $1.65
013 Confectioner $6.50 $2.35
001 Mummify $7.00 $2.50
010 Desert War $10.00 $3.25
007 Hugs Dancer $11.00 $3.50
009 Balmuse $12.00 $3.75
002 Makybe Diva $15.00 $4.50
018 Winning Belle $19.00 $5.50
003 Delzao $21.00 $6.00
011 Grey Song $21.00 $6.00
016 Vouvray $21.00 $6.00
012 Zagalia $31.00 $8.50
019 Strasbourg 1em $34.00 $9.25
015 Ain't Seen Nothin' $51.00 $13.50
020 Pacific Dancer 2em $51.00 $13.50
006 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $17.50
008 Roman Arch $81.00 $21.00
014 Upsetthym $81.00 $21.00
017 Yakama $101.00 $26.00
021 Dane Belltar 3em $126.00 $32.25
004 Distinction Scratched Scratched

[Paddy]

Latest market movement:

No. Selection NOW WAS
005 Elvstroem $3.75 $3.75
013 Confectioner $6.50 $6.50
001 Mummify $7.00 $6.50
010 Desert War $10.00 $10.00
007 Hugs Dancer $11.00 $10.00
009 Balmuse $12.00 $13.00
002 Makybe Diva $15.00 $13.00
018 Winning Belle $19.00 $17.00
003 Delzao $21.00 $21.00
011 Grey Song $21.00 $26.00
016 Vouvray $21.00 $21.00
012 Zagalia $31.00 $26.00
019 Strasbourg 1em $34.00 $34.00
015 Ain't Seen Nothin' $51.00 $67.00
020 Pacific Dancer 2em $51.00 $51.00
006 Distinctly Secret $67.00 $67.00
008 Roman Arch $81.00 $67.00
014 Upsetthym $81.00 $81.00
017 Yakama $101.00 $81.00
021 Dane Belltar 3em $126.00 $126.00
004 Distinction Scratched Scratched

[eddie72]

(5) ELVSTROEM
(16) VOUVRAY
(1) MUMMIFY
(15) AIN'T SEEN NOTHIN'

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[Even Stevens]

5 ELVSTROEM
10 DESERT WAR
7 HUGS DANCER
6 DISTINCTLY SECRET

[Privateer]

Some very game posters leaving Mummify out completely!

[Wexford]

DESERT WAR *****

[Paddy]

Track dead, scratched 4 - Distinction, 20 - Pacific Dancer & 21 - Dane Belltar

[zorro]

Elvstroem
Mummify
Makybe Diva
Hugs Dancer

[goldmember]

MAKYBE DIVA
HUGS DANCER
GREY SONG
VOUVRY

[goldmember]

Cant believe all the people tipping Elvstroem, sat 3rd on the fence last start over 2000m,waited for a split and it was a sprint home, with the back markers no chance of winning, won the weakest derby in history and the horses finishing behind him battling to win in timbucktoo, dont think he is a stayer and if i was a bookie i would be laying him till the cows came home!

[Paddy]

On 2004-10-16 09:35, goldmember wrote:
Cant believe all the people tipping Elvstroem, sat 3rd on the fence last start over 2000m,waited for a split and it was a sprint home, with the back markers no chance of winning, won the weakest derby in history and the horses finishing behind him battling to win in timbucktoo, dont think he is a stayer and if i was a bookie i would be laying him till the cows came home!


Maybe you should contact the punter who has invested $400,000 on Elvstroem to win $1.2 million with Sportingbet :smile:

[Mav3000]

9 BALMUSE
1 MUMMIFY
8 ROMAN ARCH
5 ELVSTROEM

[ra sun]

Hugs Dancer
Mummify
Elvestroem
Winning Belle
Desert War

[Raw Instinct]

Balmuse
Vouvray
Roman Arch
Delzao

[maverick1993]

Goldenmember has a point..technically Elvis on breeding should struggle to get 2400m
Danehill has never sired a CC or MC winner.

I'd love to see Elvis win it but i wouldnt be taking anything short about him.

[sportz&all]

Upsetthym / Yakama EW

[ubetiwill]

On 2004-10-16 15:18, maverick1993 wrote:
Goldenmember has a point..technically Elvis on breeding should struggle to get 2400m
Danehill has never sired a CC or MC winner.

I'd love to see Elvis win it but i wouldnt be taking anything short about him.


....and technically she WON :smile:



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[maverick1993]

When someones say something like that you should all jump on..i gave you guys the chance :smile:..i cant beleive i didnt have Grey Song in my multis..
Great to see history made and how short is Makybe Diva going to be in the cup ??

[Jack Daniels]

I am a happy chappy :grin:
I took the following:

1st. Elvstroem, Confectioner
2nd. Elvstroem, Confectioner, Makybe Diva, Mummify
3rd. Confectioner, Makybe Diva, Mummify, Grey Song, Balmuse

Woo Hoo.

Not a bad payout either. $895.00

[moeee]

Hey Goldmember.
Mug Punta tells me it takes about 11 days or so to get the egg off your face.

[mug punta]

Be nice MO. I did nearly back Elvestrom simply due to the Port Power factor, but, I didnt bother in the end.
Cant wait for Shes Archie this week at the valley. Anything around evens will do nicely.
Ive hardly actually had a bet this carnival. Got alinghis tri in the thousand guineas 5 times but im gunna have a big crack at the archer.

[Mr ed]

Good strong win by Elvis, good chance in the Cox, no chance in the Melbourne. I have Vinnie Roe going for nearly 10,000 but have almost conceded defeat, what a run by Makybe Diva she is awesome and i dont think Vinnie can beat her, i hope i'm wrong.

[jimmyc_dogs]

i done my usual cautious betting,

elvstroem,
$20 win
$50 place,

ahh well still a $180 collect, cant complain

jimmy

[Raw Instinct]

Mr Ed I wouldn't be to worried I think that Vinnie will extremely hard to beat especially if the tracks stay the way they are right now.

[Matilda]

I think Vinnie has a great chance of winning. I think that Archie and Diva has come to an end of their campaign although Diva did run a great run in C.Cup. He normally can't perform good twice. He might get 4th again. 4th place specialist.

[Paddy]

08 CARLTON CAULFIELD
CUP
2400 Metres
4:05pm
2ND LEG DAILY DOUBLE
3RD LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
5 4.10 2.10
2.............4.20
11.............5.30
SPINNER (MIXED) 3.00
QUINELLA 33.80
EXACTA 50.50
TRIFECTA 895.00
FIRST4 11832.60
(5-2-11-16)
DAILY DOUBLE
(14 - 5) 33.20

( 5) ELVSTROEM
( 2) MAKYBE DIVA
(11) GREY SONG

SCR - 4,20,21
QUADRELLA SUB - 5

[Paddy]

Post official thread tipping “marker”:

ELVSTROEM selected by glenn101, Mr ed, Matilda, bwuce, bl4dez, fast eddy, Seeker11, headsNtails, maverick1993, eddie72, Even Stevens, zorro, Mav3000 & ra sun

MAKYBE DIVA selected by bwuce, ShoeIn, Chuck_3000, smidgin, rabbitz, zorro & goldmember

GREY SONG selected by Matilda, Sporty & goldmember

VOUVRAY selected by eddie72, goldmember & Raw Instinct

[Paddy]

Thread covered all multiples including the first4.


Some interesting reading pre official thread tipping “marker”, including purpleheart68’s post of mid August declaring Elvstroem the best of the males in the Cup, when still showings very nice odds of 17/1 and Bagwon declaring Grey Song EW @ $67.00 / $17.50.




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