Group 2 UP AND COMING STAKES - 1200M (21st Aug)

[Paddy]

1 CHARGE FORWARD John O'Shea
2 DANCE HERO Gai Waterhouse
3 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes
4 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry
5 GOLDEN FOX Trevor Whittington
6 OCTRIVIA Leon Corstens
7 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich
8 SEPTEMBER QUARTER Leon Corstens
9 TANTAT SECRET Doug Harrison
10 TANTAT XAAR Doug Harrison

[william]

DANCE HERO
CHARGE FORWARD
OCTRIVIA

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 DANCE HERO Gai Waterhouse 56
2 CHARGE FORWARD John O'Shea 56
3 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich 56
4 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry 56
5 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes 56
6 TANTAT SECRET Doug Harrison 56
7 GOLDEN FOX Trevor Whittington 56
8 OCTRIVIA Leon Corstens 56
9 TANTAT XAAR Doug Harrison 56
10 SEPTEMBER QUARTER Leon Corstens 56

[purpleheart68]

Dane Shadow e/w

[goldmember]

FASTNET ROCK
CHARGE FORWARD
DANCE HERO
GOLDEN FOX

[Paddy]

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 DANCE HERO Gai Waterhouse C Munce 5 56
2 PUBLIC OPINION Gillian Heinrich G Colless 2 56
3 FASTNET ROCK Paul Perry G Boss 4 56
4 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes 1 56
5 GOLDEN FOX Trevor Whittington J Cassidy 3 56

[Mr ed]

Once again the sydney three year olds are reduced to a farcical field. I think Fastnet Rock has come back with an edge over Dance Hero and if he can just sit on his girth and peel of in the straight he may finally break his maiden status.

Cheers ED

[mug punta]

Good call mr ed, yet again, I reckon Perry is a master trainer. His horses always come back better as a 3yo and his strike rate in Melb come springtime is nothing short of amazing.
Maybe he could teach Gai a few tricks, her horses run like cats in Melbourne

[sportzfan]

TAB NO. 1 DANCE HERO
TAB NO. 3 FASTNET ROCK
TAB NO. 2 PUBLIC OPINION

[Matilda]

Dance Hero to win easily. Good second up record.

[Chuck]

Big call, matilda, but i don't think your too far off the money. Nevertheless, i also think that Dance Hero will win, and i think he will go onto bigger and better things after this
Chuck

[Paddy]

Prices at: 16:42:00, 19 Aug 2004

No. Selection Win
001 Dance Hero $1.65
003 Fastnet Rock $3.75
004 Dane Shadow $4.50
005 Golden Fox $10.00
002 Public Opinion $41.00

[Mr ed]

$3.75 looks good to me Mug Punta in a five horse field.

[mug punta]

No doubt and take the exacta with Fastnet rock beating Dance hero.Should pay between $7-8 I reckon

[Mr ed]

Exacta looks good these two should be to slick for the first uppers. However i think 7-8 may be ambitious. The lack of runners means there is only 20 exacta combinations possible and when you consider public opinion figures in 8 of these and we are taking the two faves, i think 4-5 may be closer to the mark.

Cheers ED

[mug punta]

Alright Ed, I am looking to squeeze every last dollar out of the exacta. Ur probly right. Who do you like for 3rd. I might take a straight out tri. Often even with the 3rd fav they pay anywhere b/w $15-20 even in small fields

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[maverick1993]

through in Golden fox...nice horse with ability.

[mug punta]

On 2004-08-20 11:52, maverick1993 wrote:
through in Golden fox...nice horse with ability.
Thanks maverick, I may even box the 3 as well as straightout in case of the blowout.
p.s Have been observing your system for a while now and you seem to have done well. Well Done!! Just a couple of queries though. Do you bet a % of your bank each week or do you just follow however many horses meet your systems criteria.
Also, in your trifecta do you take the selection + fav to win, from 6 others for 2nd and 3rd for 50c.Also, do you only use zipform for those 6 selections or do you put things you like in?

[maverick1993]

No limit on selections....but i do devote alot of time to form study...now with the big fields i can't see me having too many selections i just havent the time..lately i've been lazy and although im getting heaps of frustrating 2nds i'm not doing justice to my selections...easy to get a bit cruisy when you win a few..
Trifectas are
To win (TOP LINE) My selection , The top Zip rater and then the fav (usually prepost)
if my selection is the top Zip or the fav then the next in beting..
The 2nd line and 3rd line is the next 2 in betting and then the horse with the best barrier.
so thats 3/6/6 for .50c at a cost of $30

If my Selection is fav then i do a 2/7/7
with the top Zip rater on top with my selection
and then the next 4 in betting and then the best barrier selection.

the tris have been succesful i think the secret is to keep emotion out of your selections,,,the other day a 200/1 shot Kalenji from the best barrier came 2nd and the tri paid $10,000...its easy to fiddle around with selections but i stick to the formula..and it seems to work..

by wary of Golden Fox if its real wet..is a complete unknown in it...who knows could be a duck ??

[gum stumpa]

outsider public opinion could add value to the tri

[Matilda]

That is a very correct sentence by Maverick1993 :
"keep emotion out of your selections"

I always ended or drained my account thru emotions...

Need to learn how to control.

Good system. 3/6/6 and 2/7/7 as mention by Maverick1993

[reinz]

Dead-heat Dance Hero and Fastnet Rock.

[Chuck]

DANCE HERO

[Paddy]

Prices at: 19:17:20, 20 Aug 2004

No. Selection Win
001 Dance Hero $1.75
003 Fastnet Rock $3.75
004 Dane Shadow $4.75
005 Golden Fox $8.00
002 Public Opinion $41.00

[Paddy]

Dance Hero & Dane Shadow out slightly
* Golden Fox in 2 points

[Raw Instinct]

Fastnet Rock
Golden Fox
Dance Hero

[Paddy]

Track slow, no scratchings.

[mug punta]

On 2004-08-20 13:22, Matilda wrote:
That is a very correct sentence by Maverick1993 :
"keep emotion out of your selections"

I always ended or drained my account thru emotions...

Need to learn how to control.

Good system. 3/6/6 and 2/7/7 as mention by Maverick1993
It's the hardest and yet most important key to winning on the punt, Matilda. Still struggling to do it well myself

[peanutz]

(2) Public Opinion EW
(1) Dance Hero
(3) Fastnet Rock

[Paddy]

03 UP & COMING C&G 3YO
STAKES
1200 Metres
12:55pm


WIN/PLACE
3 3.10 N.P.P
4............N.P.P
2............N.P.P
SPINNER (MIXED) 2.00
QUINELLA 7.70
EXACTA 15.50
TRIFECTA 58.10
FIRST4 46.20
(3-4-2-1)

( 3) FASTNET ROCK
( 4) DANE SHADOW
( 2) PUBLIC OPINION

SCR - 5(L)

[Paddy]

FASTNET ROCK selected by goldmember, Mr ed, mug punta, sportzfan, reinz, Raw Instinct & peanutz
DANE SHADOW selected by purpleheart68
PUBLIC OPINION selected by sportzfan, gum stumpa & peanutz
Dance Hero selected by william, goldmember, Mr ed, sportzfan, Matilda, Chuck_3000, mug punta, reinz, Raw Instinct & peanutz

Welcome gum stumpa :wink:


Thread covered all multiples including first4.

[Mr ed]

seems strange they had a first 4 in this field as its exactly the same as getting the trifecta.