racing in the west- new thread

[Paddy]

If all or most of those start Sandgroper, should be a great race.

[umrum]

On 2004-11-03 20:42, FremantleDoctor wrote:
And why is that umrum. Care to elaborate?




Wednesday is a work day for starters and having so many races close together will only weaken each respective race. that wednesday meeting I can see a full quality field for the jungle dawn surrounded by absolute S**T fields. Instead of having a carnival the turf club should focus on having to or three saturday meetings chock a block with full qaulity fields. At least they're trying something but I not sure it will work.

[umrum]

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On 2004-11-03 22:50, Sandgroper wrote:
Could be right Geez, we'll have to wait and see.

To wet your appetite take a look at the current noms for Saturday's group 2 Winterbottom (1200m).

CATION 57.5
CENTO 57.5
DARK 'N' DANGEROUS 57.5
FAIR ALERT 57.5
HARDRADA 57.5
KAME'S HOPE 57.5
KAPRATS 57.5
MAJOR DEAL 57.5
MODEM 57.5
MR SANDGROPER 57.5
PRINCE OF VASAC 57.5
QUASAROCK 57.5
SECRET REMEDY 57.5
WESTERN TYCOON 57.5
ELLICORSAM 55
GOLDEN DELICIOUS 55
STIR PAK 55
REDWOLDT 52.5
REFEMME 50



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Gee that's a nice field and a great betting race. ellicorsam - what price get on! Hardrada and redwolt to fill the drums.

[Sandgroper]

We've lost a few but still a great field.

Group 2 Winterbottom Stakes (1200m).

1 Hardrada 13 OPN 57.5 Jason Whiting L P Luciani
2 Modem 12 OPN 57.5 Paul Harvey T M Andrews
3 Kaprats 11 OPN 57.5 Shaun Mc Gruddy W L Radford
4 Mr Sandgroper 3 OPN 57.5 Paul King D A Edwards
5 Kame's Hope 5 OPN 57.5 Steven Parnham R W Price
6 Cento 6 OPN 57.5 Noel Rudland F R Kersley
7 Prince Of Vasac 4 OPN 57.5 Patrick Carbery B M Dudley
8 Major Deal 10 OPN 57.5 Dion Luciani W H Godecke
9 Golden Delicious 1 OPN 55 Jason Brown J P Taylor
10 Ellicorsam 8 OPN 55 William Pike S L Miller
11 Stir Pak 7 OPN 55 David O'Heare J G Parker
12 Redwoldt 9 OPN 52.5 Daniel Staeck L P Luciani
13 Refemme 2 CL6 50 Peter Knuckey G E Daly


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[shaun1993]

You can tell the good stuff is coming up :smile:

[Sandgroper]

Sure can shaun1993!


Current Ozbet EW odds for the Winterbottom.
Some pretty goods horses showing double figures.


ELLICORSAM $2.80
REFEMME $4.80
GOLDEN DELICIOUS $6.50
MODEM $7.50
REDWOLDT $8.00
HARDRADA $11.00
KAPRATS $16.00
KAMES HOPE $16.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $21.00
MR SANDGROPER $31.00
CENTO $41.00
STIR PAK $41.00
MAJOR DEAL $151.00


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[umrum]

[quote]
On 2004-11-05 13:31, Sandgroper wrote:
Sure can shaun1993!


Current Ozbet EW odds for the Winterbottom.
Some pretty goods horses showing double figures.


ELLICORSAM $2.80
REFEMME $4.80
GOLDEN DELICIOUS $6.50
MODEM $7.50
REDWOLDT $8.00
HARDRADA $11.00
KAPRATS $16.00
KAMES HOPE $16.00
PRINCE OF VASAC $21.00
MR SANDGROPER $31.00
CENTO $41.00
STIR PAK $41.00
MAJOR DEAL $151.00


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mr sandgroper and hardrada appeal at the odds though i think ellicorsam might have a bit too much in hand for them.

[FremantleDoctor]

GOLDEN DELICIOUS

[Paddy]

A little EW Kaprats will do me :wink:

[Sandgroper]

Do you reckon Paddy.

Will be interesting to see how he’s ridden from the wide draw.
Can race on the pace or settle back. Bit of speed in the race so might get back a bit.
Let’s hope he doesn’t get too far back.


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[Paddy]

Yeah, the wide draw is a bit of a worry in such a good field, but he did win so well last start after copping a bit of interferance early on. I might have a bit more for a place with fixed odds.

How do ya think your namesake will go, if you don't mind me asking (I know you like to keep things close to your chest these days :roll: )

[Sandgroper]

My mail is that David has him primed and ready. Done a treat during his layoff but not suited under the WFA scale. Be pleasantly surprised if he gets into the finish.

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[Paddy]

Okay, thanks Perth Placegetter, might include in my multiples anyway. You never know, still a youngster & most likely still on the improve.


So, the big question, is Ellicorsam over the line?

[Sandgroper]

Good question Paddy. If you ignore her last effort in Hannans, my answer would be an emphatic no. Although she’d previously won 4 in a row in WA by an average of around 4lens, she’d only beaten mid-week class. Also had an unsuccessful stint in SA, although did have a few problems during that campaign.

Seems to have relished the short break after the SA campaign and did win the Hannan’s on her ear and improved considerably on her best city rating in doing so.

I’ll include her in my multiples, but at the odds on offer, that’s about it. There’s a few in the race, that appear to be offering much better value.

Ellicorsam could easily go on with it, so if you like her don’t let me deter you from backing her.



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[Geez]

I think she can win but too short for my liking. I've backed Prince Of Vasac EW, huge win last start. Also like Modem, Golden Delicious and Redwoldt. Might box those five.

[Paddy]

Thanks again Sandgroper and good morning Geez (no! it’s still evening over there).

Forgot about Modem, great first-up record and will have the services of the pontiff. Have to add that one to my multiples as well – the list is growing.

So Sandgroper, one final question. What are you backing??

[Sandgroper]

Still up Paddy, isn’t past your bedtime? Just after 9.30 over here, what’s your excuse?

What am I’m backing?

From memory someone asked you that very thing on the Melbourne cup thread, don’t recall a reply :smile:



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[Paddy]

Well if you must know I backed Vinnie & Hugs! Now aren’t we glad I didn’t post before the race :wink:

[Sandgroper]

Funny that! Hugs was one of my bets as well. Nothing finishing better over the last bit, but got way too far back.

What am I’m backing Paddy. As many starters as I can, if I can get the right odds.


But if pushed for just the one selection, it would be the bottom weight.


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[Paddy]

Would be what Sandgroper?

[Sandgroper]

Not sure what you’re on about Paddy. Have already told you.

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[Paddy]

Yeah funnee! I can see it now. Cheers Perth Placegetter :smile:

[MyHatMyCoat]

My selections for the Winterbottom are:-

(10) ELLICORSAM
(2) MODEM
(9) GOLDEN DELICIOUS
(13) REFEMME

[partypooper]

Paddy, that would be the "PPM" (Partypoopers Plum Movers) clear cut selection "REFEMME"

[maverick1993]

Hope you guys remembered that tip i gave you somewhere on this thread yonks ago "Maewest" it was worth the wait.
That means i'm one for one in WA . Think i'll quite while i'm ahead :smile:

[Paddy]

Yeah, well done maverick1993.
Wrote it down in my little green book when you tipped it.

Might have missed it yesterday had Jason Brown not been on board - one of my fav WA jocks. Nice effort too from a wide barrier. Paid 9/2 here.

[Rain Lover]

Haven't seen a mention elsewhere but just wish to record the untimely passing of one WA's better performed thoroughbreds in Hot Shot Brother. He died after collapsing during a track gallop last Wednesday. HSB was a winner of 6 races and 6 places from 16 starts including the Group 3 Scahill Stakes last summer. It is tragic to see a quality performer like him coming to early unexpected end.

[Sandgroper]

That's tragic news Rain Lover. Hard to believe. I know he ran very well in a trial a couple of weeks ago. Was looking forward to another top campaign.




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[Geez]

That's shocking news Rain Lover. I still remember the Scahill Stakes vividly. Nosed out Kames Hope in a tight finish. Won me a lot of money that day. Best racing was still to come. A real shame.

[FremantleDoctor]

Yes, tragic news re Hot Shot Brother. Commiserations to the connections.


Quick post mortem on the Winterbottom. Not taking anything away from the winner (who looks to have developed into a extra smart sprinter – clocking 1:08:66 for the 1200M) but did have the race handed to her on a platter. Have some doubt that she can repeat over 1400M or longer against same class field. Thought the runs of the race were from both Redwoldt and Modem. Both didn’t have the best of runs yet made up a lot of ground on the winner over the concluding stage. Expect great things from these 2 over next couple of months. Hardrada and Prince Of Vasac who were not suited under the weight scale, also put in good runs, both running on well over the concluding stages. I was a little surprised to see Refemme backing up so quickly (won on Tuesday) – not really wanted in the market and raced accordingly.

[umrum]

On 2004-11-09 09:56, FremantleDoctor wrote:
Yes, tragic news re Hot Shot Brother. Commiserations to the connections.


Quick post mortem on the Winterbottom. Not taking anything away from the winner (who looks to have developed into a extra smart sprinter – clocking 1:08:66 for the 1200M) but did have the race handed to her on a platter. Have some doubt that she can repeat over 1400M or longer against same class field. Thought the runs of the race were from both Redwoldt and Modem. Both didn’t have the best of runs yet made up a lot of ground on the winner over the concluding stage. Expect great things from these 2 over next couple of months. Hardrada and Prince Of Vasac who were not suited under the weight scale, also put in good runs, both running on well over the concluding stages. I was a little surprised to see Refemme backing up so quickly (won on Tuesday) – not really wanted in the market and raced accordingly.




Cannot agree with much of what you have said there docker. Cento was getting his ears scrubbed off trying to get to the lead while ellicorsam was under a strong grip from the kid. The time she ran was phenomenal.It was one of the fastest for 30 years. Modem and Redwolt were good runs but with a solid tempo had every chance to run her down. Pike hardly fliched on her and she won untouched. Hardrada not suited under the weight scale. what the it's WFA. He's perfectly suited under WFA. In fact he has won this race the last two years. Refemme looks a 1000m horse and i thought the class would test.

cheers
umrum

[FremantleDoctor]

Would be a boring world if we all agreed umrum :smile:

[umrum]

On 2004-11-09 16:14, FremantleDoctor wrote:
Would be a boring world if we all agreed umrum :smile:



true that :wink:

[demister jay]

Main race at Bunbury tomorrow - At The Scene.

[watsonnek]

Birthday Cup.

(4) Maximus Munius
(5) Blazing Morn
(7) Great Cyrus
(12) Perfectly Matched

[Geez]

Well I guess that leaves the last to me.

Strawberry Jane - Ammon Avenue - Shake Your Bon Bon - Tri Paris

[Sandgroper]

Things are warming up at Ascot with the GROUP III ASIAN BEAU STAKES, LISTED BURGESS QUEEN STAKES, LISTED FAIRETHA STAKES and LISTED ASCOT GOLD CUP all happening on Saturday. Should be great racing.

Current noms follow.


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[Sandgroper]

GROUP III ASIAN BEAU STAKES over 1400m.

1 Dedicated Miss 18 57 G F Durrant
2 Main Stage 1 57 A R Taylor
3 Stockie's Yarn 16 55 M W Pateman
4 Prince Of Vasac 6 54 B M Dudley
5 Quasarock 5 54 B A Lewis
6 Blinded 20 53 C A Stelmach
7 Bonnie Brae 9 52.5 V G Ferrier
8 Changing Lanes 14 52.5 R C Mc Pherson
9 Dead Eye Dick 8 52.5 B P Graham
10 Jarnot 12 52.5 P A Grantham
11 Lady Go Bello 17 52.5 F R Kersley
12 Lukaboom 3 52.5 S R Casey
13 Pennywest 2 52.5 D L Morton
14 Stir Pak 22 52.5 J G Parker
15 Track Jester 24 52.5 W L Radford
16 Re Enforcing 11 52.5 R W Price
17 Exchequer 21 52.5 L Smith
18 Rock Of Cashel 7 52.5 S De Vincentis
19 Always Fast 15 52.5 N D Parnham
20 Major Deal 19 52.5 W H Godecke
21 Biaggio 10 52.5 M L Williams
22 Fair Appraisal 4 52.5 M J Grant
23 Dr John 13 52.5 R W Price
24 Major Key 23 52.5 B Byrne-Quinn


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

LISTED BURGESS QUEEN STAKES over 1400m.

1 Stormy Nova 3 57.5 V A Brockman
2 O'Flirty(NZ) 12 55.5 D R Harrison
3 Moet Magic 5 54 L Smith
4 Purple Vision 9 54 W J Bradshaw
5 Business Girl 21 53 G W Webster (Snr.)
6 Capital Punishment 1 53 R C Mc Pherson
7 Ellenbrook 6 53 G P Poletti
8 Lust For Dust 22 53 P D Tapper
9 Run Ronnie Run 25 53 G F Durrant
10 Endesa 24 52.5 V A Brockman
11 Is Amazing 13 52.5 F R Kersley
12 Pet Ball 19 52.5 B P Graham
13 Rumoured 8 52.5 N D Parnham
14 Fiery Buster 14 52 D R Harrison
15 Holy Bounty 16 52 S L Miller
16 Key Ambition 4 52 C H Webster
17 Lomas Bayas 2 52 R J Sayers
18 Girl In A Storm 20 52 T M Andrews
19 Europium 23 52 F R Kersley
20 Antofagasta 10 52 N D Parnham
21 Salisbury Street 26 52 D R Harrison
22 Regal Bay 17 52 L Smith
23 Truly Elegant 11 52 L Smith
24 Dark Review 7 52 L Smith
25 Bella Nikita 15 52 R R Bynder
26 Chant A Lee 18 52 D H Ramsay
27 Sanabresa 0 52 J W Price
28 Feathers Aplenty 0 52 W H Godecke
29 High Impact 0 52 L Smith



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[Sandgroper]

LISTED FAIRETHA STAKES over 1400m.

1 Redwoldt 9 58 L P Luciani
2 Attractions 2 55 G E Daly
3 Metaldale 5 55 F R Kersley
4 Dr John 7 54 R W Price
5 Army Prince 14 53.5 B R Larsson
6 Stormblitz 4 53 D L Morton
7 Bicton 1 52.5 N D Parnham
8 Electic 10 52.5 N D Parnham
9 The Black Cigar 11 52.5 D Thom
10 Tidal Storm 6 52.5 M W Pateman
11 Air Lord 12 52 L P Luciani
12 Basto Man 8 52 R G Smith
13 Bearhart 3 52 D Thom
14 Gold Service 13 52 S R Bates
15 Our Solid Bond 15 52 S R Casey


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[Sandgroper]

LISTED ASCOT GOLD CUP over 2200m.

1 Blevvo 17 57.5 D R Harrison
2 Laetare 3 55 E A Martinovich
3 True Steel 12 55 M M Payne
4 Dundally 7 53.5 J M Busslinger
5 Glitzy Show 15 52 G C Ballantyne
6 Halopak 20 52 P H Jordan
7 Happy Johnson 10 52 G C Ballantyne
8 Indigo King 6 52 B M Dudley
9 Local Product 5 52 I J Thompson
10 Mercedario(NZ) 19 52 N D Parnham
11 Our Selection 1 52 J W Price
12 Saboteur 13 52 J R Bull
13 Servincent 4 52 L P Luciani
14 Shoeless 16 52 N E Pascoe
15 Universal Warrior 9 52 N D Parnham
16 Zakarak 8 52 C A Stelmach
17 No Anchor 11 52 G G Patten
18 To Dare Wins(NZ) 14 52 E S Cooley
19 Just A Kiseki 2 52 B M Dudley
20 Millfield 18 52 M L Williams
21 On Remand 21 52 M W Tuckey


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Sandgroper :smile:

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[umrum]

where's main stage???

[MyHatMyCoat]

On 2004-11-10 13:07, umrum wrote:
where's main stage???


If you mean today with all this rain, probably in his stall, sleeping.

If you are referring to early noms for Saturday, try the ASIAN BEAU STAKES, 2nd horse listed.

:smile:

[umrum]

what's taylor doing. Main stage would win the cup but the asian beau is another thing all together. Cheers mahatma

[Sandgroper]

FAIRETHA STAKES (1400m)

1 ATTRACTIONS G E Daly P D Knuckey 2 55
2 METALDALE Fred Kersley P J Carbery 4 55
3 DR JOHN Ross Price P J Harvey 6 54
4 ARMY PRINCE B R Larsson J S Whiting 11 53.5
5 STORMBLITZ D Morton J J Brown 3 53
6 BICTON Neville Parnham S D Parnham 1 52.5
7 ELECTIC Neville Parnham B M Parnham (a) 8 52.5
8 THE BLACK CIGAR D Thom S L O'Donnell 9 52.5
9 TIDAL STORM M W Pateman T K Turner 5 52.5
10 BASTO MAN R G Smith C L Staples 7 52
11 GOLD SERVICE S R Bates P King 10 52
12 OUR SOLID BOND S R Casey B J Albuino (a) 12 52


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[Sandgroper]

Ozbet EW odds.

DR JOHN 11193 $3.50
STORMBLITZ 11195 $4.50
METALDALE 11192 $5.00
ATTRACTIONS 11191 $8.00
GOLD SERVICE 11201 $8.00
ELECTIC 11197 $8.50
THE BLACK CIGAR 11198 $15.00
BICTON 11196 $17.00
ARMY PRINCE 11194 $21.00
TIDAL STORM 11199 $21.00
BASTO MAN 11200 $101.00
OUR SOLID BOND 11202 $101.00


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[Sandgroper]

ASCOT GOLD CUP (2200m)


1 BLEVVO D R Harrison Ms A D Sansom 11 57.5
2 LAETARE E A Martinovich D A O'Heare 1 55
3 TRUE STEEL Mrs M M Payne C L Staples 8 55
4 DUNDALLY J M Busslinger P Hall 4 53.5
5 HALOPAK P H Jordan P King 13 52
6 HAPPY JOHNSON Graeme Ballantyne T K Turner 6 52
7 INDIGO KING Mrs B M Dudley 3 52
8 LOCAL PRODUCT I J Thompson J S Whiting 2 52
9 MERCEDARIO (NZ) Neville Parnham S D Parnham 12 52
10 NO ANCHOR G G Patten N A Chapman 7 52
11 SABOTEUR J R Bull 9 52
12 SHOELESS N E Pascoe J J Brown 10 52
13 ZAKARAK C A Stelmach P J Carbery 5 52



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[Sandgroper]

Ozbet EW odds.


DUNDALLY 11214 $4.40
LAETARE 11212 $4.60
BLEVVO 11211 $5.50
TRUE STEEL 11213 $5.50
LOCAL PRODUCT 11218 $9.00
SABOTEUR 11221 $10.00
ZAKARAK 11223 $10.00
HALOPAK 11215 $14.00
MERCEDARIO 11219 $16.00
SHOELESS 11222 $51.00
HAPPY JOHNSON 11216 $81.00
NO ANCHOR 11220 $101.00


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[Sandgroper]

BURGESS QUEEN STAKES (1400m)

1 STORMY NOVA V A Brockman Ms A D Sansom 3 57.5
2 O'FLIRTY (NZ) D R Harrison P J Harvey 11 55.5
3 MOET MAGIC Lindsey Smith 5 54
4 PURPLE VISION W J Bradshaw J S Whiting 9 54
5 CAPITAL PUNISHMENT R C Mc Pherson P King 1 53
6 ELLENBROOK G P Poletti 6 53
7 LUST FOR DUST P D Tapper T K Turner 18 53
8 RUN RONNIE RUN G F Durrant N A Chapman 20 53
9 ENDESA V A Brockman P D Knuckey 19 52.5
10 IS AMAZING Fred Kersley P J Carbery 12 52.5
11 RUMOURED Neville Parnham S D Parnham 8 52.5
12 FIERY BUSTER D R Harrison T Ikenushi 13 52
13 HOLY BOUNTY S L Miller J J Brown 15 52
14 KEY AMBITION Colin Webster D Luciani (a) 4 52
15 LOMAS BAYAS R J Sayers C K Harvey 2 52
16 REGAL BAY Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 16 52
17E TRULY ELEGANT Lindsey Smith Ms J D Valas (a) 10 52
18E DARK REVIEW Lindsey Smith C L Staples 7 52
19E BELLA NIKITA R R Bynder 14 52
20E CHANT A LEE Dennis Ramsay 17 52


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[Sandgroper]

ASIAN BEAU STAKES (1400m)

1 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 13 57
2 STOCKIE'S YARN M W Pateman T K Turner 11 55
3 PRINCE OF VASAC Mrs B M Dudley P J Carbery 5 54
4 QUASAROCK B A Lewis 4 54
5 BLINDED C A Stelmach Ms A D Sansom 14 53
6 BONNIE BRAE V G Ferrier C K Harvey 8 52.5
7 CHANGING LANES R C Mc Pherson K Forrester 10 52.5
8 DEAD EYE DICK B P Graham N A Chapman 7 52.5
9 FAIR APPRAISAL M J Grant P J Harvey 3 52.5
10 JARNOT P A Grantham S L O'Donnell 9 52.5
11 LADY GO BELLO Fred Kersley P D Knuckey 12 52.5
12 LUKABOOM S R Casey B J Albuino (a) 2 52.5
13 PENNYWEST D Morton J J Brown 1 52.5
14 TRACK JESTER W L Radford P King 15 52.5
15 ROCK OF CASHEL S De Vincentis J S Whiting 6 52.5


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[Sandgroper]

Ozbet EW odds.

PRINCE OF VASAC 11263 $6.00
DEAD EYE DICK 11268 $6.00
BONNIE BRAE 11266 $7.50
FAIR APPRAISAL 11269 $7.50
PENNYWEST 11273 $8.00
ROCK OF CASHEL 11275 $9.00
STOCKIES YARN 11262 $10.00
DEDICATED MISS 11261 $14.00
LUKABOOM 11272 $14.00
BLINDED 11265 $15.00
LADY GO BELLO 11271 $18.00
QUASAROCK 11264 $21.00
CHANGING LANES 11267 $31.00
JARNOT 11270 $31.00
TRACK JESTER 11274 $41.00


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[watsonnek]

Fairetha.

(2) Metaldale
(3) Dr John
(5) Stormblitz
(8) The Black Cigar

[watsonnek]

Gold Cup.

(1) Blevvo
(2) Laetare
(9) Mercedario
(13) Zakarak

[watsonnek]

Burgess.

(13) Holy Bounty
(1) Stormy Nova
(2) O'Flirty
(7) Lust For Dust

[watsonnek]

Asian Beau.

(3) Prince Of Vasac
(9) Fair Appraisal
(8) Dead Eye Dick
(5) Blinded

[Raw Instinct]

Well off to a good start getting up on True Steel in the Cup great ride he thought he put the writing on the wall last start and he beat them pretty easily in the end.


Blinded
Prince of Vasac
Track Jester
Dead Eye Dick

[ra sun]

i noticed no body tipped one of my favourite wa horses, i affectionately call him THE ROCK. Rock of Cashel.

I have backed him in all but his first win and am staggered that every time he runs you can still get backable odds, yet he has lost one race.

just wondering from you westerners whether they are tipping him over there or whether hes not really rated? anyway stoked with another win this arvo up in class and $5.60 i good enough for me. was heart broken when he ran 3rd but back on board today

[umrum]

On 2004-11-13 20:16, ra sun wrote:
i noticed no body tipped one of my favourite wa horses, i affectionately call him THE ROCK. Rock of Cashel.

I have backed him in all but his first win and am staggered that every time he runs you can still get backable odds, yet he has lost one race.

just wondering from you westerners whether they are tipping him over there or whether hes not really rated? anyway stoked with another win this arvo up in class and $5.60 i good enough for me. was heart broken when he ran 3rd but back on board today


last start in a welter he had every chance and was beaten on his merits by stockies yarn. stockies yarn is probably an underrated horse but there is not a huge opinion of him generally. I thought the rock started under the odds today but it was a great ride/win.

[ra sun]

thankz paddy was beginning to think nobody was going to reply.

didn't mean to sound like i think i know something you guys dont cos i certainly dont. was just curious cos this horse has been good to me so far. probably never win again now that i've said something

[Paddy]

Thanks for the thankz ra sun but I think you’ll find that umrum was the respondent :wink:

[Paddy]

Current nominations - Listed R.S. CRAWFORD STAKES - 1100M (20 Nov)


No Horse Trainer Weight

1 FAIR ALERT Owen Sweetman 59
2 KAPRATS W L Radford 58.5
3 GOLDEN DELICIOUS Jim Taylor 57
4 SECRET REMEDY Neville Parnham 57
5 DARK 'N' DANGEROUS K W Shanks 54
6 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich 54
7 CENTO Fred Kersley 53
8 EDUCATED MONEY Neville Parnham 52
9 ELEGANTLY BLACK K L Grantham 52
10 IMPRESSIVE STATS D T Mc Auliffe 52
11 LAKESIDE RHYTHM B A Mouritz 52
12 REFEMME G E Daly 52
13 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith 52
14 SHAKE MY HAND J W Price 52

[Paddy]

Current nominations - Group2 LEE STEERE STAKES - 1400M (20 Nov)

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 FAIR ALERT Owen Sweetman 58
2 HARDRADA Lou Luciani 58
3 HARTLEYS DREAM Lindsey Smith 58
4 KAME'S HOPE Ross Price 58
5 LUKABOOM S R Casey 58
6 MODEM T M Andrews 58
7 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards 58
8 SECRET LINK Fred Kersley 58
9 TUMERIC Cliff Brown 58
10 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant 55.5
11 ELLICORSAM S L Miller 55.5
12 REDWOLDT Lou Luciani 52

[Sandgroper]

LEE STEERE STAKES (1400m)


1 HARDRADA Lou Luciani J S Whiting 8 58
2 MODEM T M Andrews P J Harvey 7 58
3 MR SANDGROPER David Edwards P King 6 58
4 KAME'S HOPE Ross Price S D Parnham 9 58
5 HARTLEYS DREAM Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 4 58
6 LUKABOOM S R Casey P J Carbery 1 58
7 DEDICATED MISS G F Durrant J F Miller 2 55.5
8 ELLICORSAM S L Miller D Oliver 5 55.5
9 REDWOLDT Lou Luciani J J Brown 3 52


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[Sandgroper]

Ozbet EW odds.

ELLICORSAM 11168 $1.75
REDWOLDT 11169 $4.00
MODEM 11162 $6.50
HARDRADA 11161 $10.00
HARTLEYS DREAM 11165 $13.00
DEDICATED MISS 11167 $31.00
MR SANDGROPER 11163 $41.00
KAMES HOPE 11164 $41.00
LUKABOOM 11166 $81.00


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[Sandgroper]

R.S. CRAWFORD STAKES (1100m)

1 KAPRATS W L Radford S F Mc Gruddy 9 58.5
2 SECRET REMEDY Neville Parnham S D Parnham 1 57
3 DARK 'N' DANGEROUS K W Shanks D Oliver 8 54
4 WESTERN TYCOON E A Martinovich D A O'Heare 4 54
5 CENTO Fred Kersley P J Harvey 5 53
6 EDUCATED MONEY Neville Parnham P J Carbery 7 52
7 ELEGANTLY BLACK K L Grantham J J Brown 3 52
8 IMPRESSIVE STATS D T Mc Auliffe J S Whiting 6 52
9 LAKESIDE RHYTHM P D Wagg B J Albuino (a) 2 52
10 REGAL RAIDER Lindsey Smith W A Pike (a) 10 52


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[Sandgroper]

Ozbet EW odds.

IMPRESSIVE STATS 11178 $4.40
KAPRATS 11171 $6.00
DARK N DANGEROUS 11173 $6.50
WESTERN TYCOON 11174 $6.50
EDUCATED MONEY 11176 $6.50
CENTO 11175 $7.50
REGAL RAIDER 11180 $8.00
SECRET REMEDY 11172 $17.00
ELEGANTLY BLACK 11177 $17.00
LAKESIDE RHYTHM 11179 $17.00


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[Paddy]

On 2004-11-19 01:45, Sandgroper wrote:
Ozbet EW odds.

ELLICORSAM 11168 $1.75
REDWOLDT 11169 $4.00
MODEM 11162 $6.50
HARDRADA 11161 $10.00
HARTLEYS DREAM 11165 $13.00
DEDICATED MISS 11167 $31.00
MR SANDGROPER 11163 $41.00
KAMES HOPE 11164 $41.00
LUKABOOM 11166 $81.00


Well looking at those odds they might as well hand over the winners cheque to connections of Ellicorsam now.

[Mr ed]

Sad thing is its probably a decent price beat all of these horses easily last start won over the distance, drawn better. I cant make a case for anything else, i'll chuck redwoldt in for the exacta.

[umrum]

Very good price. Last start she was only 2.50 against very good horses. Most knew she was up to them and she proved it but she hadnt quite done it in that class. I think realistically she should be $1.4. I'll be taking the shorts. Hopefully she will get to even-money.

cheers

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[gum stumpa]

You guys must think this horse pretty special. Didn't fire in SA.

[umrum]

On 2004-11-19 18:41, gum stumpa wrote:
You guys must think this horse pretty special. Didn't fire in SA.


it's special all right. went ok in sa. certainly didnt disgrace itself. was only its 6th start and running good races in good company.

[Mr ed]

Yeh dont worry about her Gum Stumpa she is awesome. The Adelaide stint wasn't the best but she was still learning, she's a pro racehorse now and will lead all the way.

[Sandgroper]

New thread started. Retiring this one - getting too big!

See

http://www.propun.com.au/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=8001&forum=2

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