Group2 ASCOT VALE STAKES - 1200M (4 Sep)

[Paddy]

1 AL MARWA (NZ) John Sadler
2 ALINGHI Lee Freedman
3 ATAPI Richard Otto
4 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy
5 CASCADE EMERALD Tony Noonan
6 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes
7 ELTONJON Gerald Ryan
8 GRANMA GERTEY Mick Price
9 ONE WORLD Tony McEvoy
10 SANZIRO Lee Freedman
11 STAR SHIRAZ Rex Lipp
12 SUITE Bart Cummings
13 THE HAMMER Danny O'Brien
14 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton
15 WILDLY Rick Hore-Lacy

[maverick1993]

I wonder if the big run will take its toll on Alinghi...might look at Suite or Star Shiraz for a bit of value.

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight
1 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy 55.5
2 SANZIRO Lee Freedman 55.5
3 DANE SHADOW John Hawkes 55.5
4 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton 55.5
5 ELTONJON Gerald Ryan 55.5
6 WILDLY Rick Hore-Lacy 55.5
7 ATAPI Richard Otto 55.5
8 THE HAMMER Danny O'Brien 55.5
9 ALINGHI Lee Freedman 53
10 STAR SHIRAZ Rex Lipp 53
11 ONE WORLD Tony McEvoy 53
12 GRANMA GERTEY Mick Price 53
13 CASCADE EMERALD Tony Noonan 53
14 SUITE Bart Cummings 53
15 AL MARWA (NZ) John Sadler 53

[purpleheart68]

Dane Shadow
One World
Alinghi

[milbre]

hard to see anything holding out alinghi !!!

[Paddy]

Tab No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy G Childs 6 55.5
2 SANZIRO Lee Freedman N Ryan (a) 3 55.5
3 TIRADE Mathew Ellerton D Nikolic 2 55.5
4 ELTONJON Gerald Ryan M J Walker 5 55.5
5 WILDLY Rick Hore-Lacy M Flaherty 1 55.5
6 ATAPI Richard Otto Steven King 9 55.5
7 ALINGHI Lee Freedman D Oliver 8 53
8 STAR SHIRAZ Rex Lipp D Gauci 4 53
9 ONE WORLD Tony McEvoy L Currie 7 53

[Paddy]

Current win odds

Alinghi $1.95
Wildly $4.00
Eltonjon $8.50
Star Shiraz $9.50
Sanziro $11.00
Barely a Moment $17.00
One World $17.00
Tirade $21.00
Atapi $151.00

[Raw Instinct]

I am going to give Eltonjon one last go this prep looks to be a very good horse whether it does everything right is another thing.

[erikson]

I heard a bloke on the radio talking up WILDLY big time,Hes a superior horse to Alinghi,Alinghi only had to sprint for 300m last week,all the other horses scouted wide from the 600m and ran out of gas
The $4 on offer looks good,especially when there is a double into Elvstroem $12(uni tab)
We shall see
Cheers

[Lucky Phil]

(7) ALINGHI
(5) WILDLY
(8) STAR SHIRAZ
(4) ELTONJON

[goldmember]

BARELY A MOMENT e/w *
ONE WORLD
SANZIRO
STAR SHIRAZ

[fast eddy]

Alinghi
Wildly
Barely a Moment

[Mr ed]

Alinghi and Elton Jon quinella, Wildly was very impressive last start but he may not get a bog track this week.

[xptdriver]

Gday All

7 Alinghi **
1 Barely A Moment
3 Tirade
4 Eltonjon

[sportzfan]

TAB NO. 5 WILDLY
TAB NO. 7 ALINGHI
TAB NO. 9 ONE WORLD
TAB NO. 3 TIRADE

[Sandgroper]

Not much between Wildly and Alinghi.
Also Tirade EW.

_________________
All the best from the West

Sandgroper :smile:

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[reinz]

Alinghi
Wildly
Barely A Moment
Sanziro

[Paddy]

Current win odds

007 Alinghi $1.90 $0.00
005 Wildly $4.25 $0.00
004 Eltonjon $6.00 $0.00
008 Star Shiraz $12.00 $0.00
002 Sanziro $15.00 $0.00
001 Barely a Moment $17.00 $0.00
009 One World $21.00 $0.00
003 Tirade $26.00 $0.00
006 Atapi $81.00 $0.00

[Paddy]

* Alinghi in very slightly
Wildly out ¼ point
* Eltonjon in 1½ points
Star Shiraz out 2½ points
Sanziro out 14 points
One World out 4 points
Tirade out 5 points
** Atapi in 70 points

[Chenille Prince]

Alinghi
Wildly
Tirade
Atapi

[rabbitz]

Here Flemington was dead with overnight rain
What price WILDLY

[Raw Instinct]

1) Eltonjon
2) One World
3) Wildly

[Paddy]

Track heavy, nil scratching.

[william]

ALINGHI
WILDLY
ELTONJON
BARELY A MOMENT

[william]

THE FINAL WORD
"ALINGHI"

[Paddy]

Final market

007 Alinghi $1.90 $0.00
005 Wildly $3.70 $0.00
004 Eltonjon $6.50 $0.00
008 Star Shiraz $13.00 $0.00
002 Sanziro $17.00 $0.00
001 Barely a Moment $21.00 $0.00
009 One World $21.00 $0.00
003 Tirade $26.00 $0.00
006 Atapi $81.00 $0.00

[punts2]

(5) WILDLY
(7) ALINGHI
(8) STAR SHIRAZ
(2) SANZIRO

[rabbitz]

Wildly ran like a cat

[maverick1993]

Alinghi was ultra impressive and i liked the way barely a moment hit the line..
and i agree Wildly and Elton John were both dissapointing

[Paddy]

05 ASCOT VALE 3YO
STAKES
1200 Metres
2:35pm
1ST LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
7 1.70 1.04
1.............3.60
3.............3.60
SPINNER (ODDS) 2.50
QUINELLA 16.10
EXACTA 18.20
TRIFECTA 143.60
FIRST4 1150.60
(7-1-3-2)

( 7) ALINGHI
( 1) BARELY A MOMENT
( 3) TIRADE

SCR - NIL
QUADRELLA SUB - 7

[Paddy]

ALINGHI selected by purpleheart68, milbre, Lucky Phil, fast eddy, Mr ed, xptdriver, sportzfan, Sandgroper, reinz, Chenille Prince, william & punts2

BARELY A MOMENT selected by goldmember, fast eddy, xptdriver, reinz & william

TIRADE selected by xptdriver, sportzfan, Sandgroper & Chenille Prince

SANZIRO selected by goldmember, reinz & punts2

[Paddy]

Thread covered all multiples including the first4.

Trifecta to xptdriver, well done!

Another impressive performance by Alinghi.

[Mr ed]

i dont think i have seen a horse win that easily in a group 2 race, she was ultra impressive. She has 10.5 kg on Starcraft if she runs in the cox and 8.5 kg on Private Steer, Two weeks ago at caulfield she had the second fastest closing sectionals of the day only .1 of a second behind Elvstroem carrying the same weight. She must be a huge chance if she runs.

[PrinceJudea]

Alinghi does look a top filly, possibly one of the best to come out of Melbourne for a long time. The test will be against the colts, especially Fastnet Rock. Might clash in the Dubai Racing Club. Also would not rule out Charge Forward, needed the run last start and will appreciate the step up in distance.

[Hammers]

To win a Cox Plate as a 3YO, the horse needs to be able to get the Classics distances. Recent 3YO's to win are Octagonal (Derby winner), Red Anchor (Derby winner), Surround (multiple Oaks winner).

Alinghi wouldn't run 2400m downhill. Freedman will keep her to 1600 - spell her and bring her back for feature sprints in the Autumn and maybe a Doncaster.

Fastnet Rock was equally impressive on Saturday and beat a better horse than Alinghi did. Barely A Moment is hardly top shelf - won a weak Sires as a 2YO then unplaced in a Listed race first up.

I think Alinghi is the best sprinting 3YO filly around as Crimson Reign hasn't resurfaced. The 1400 at Caulfield Sunday week should suit her at the weights too. Probably beat the fillies at 1600 in the Guineas as well. After that, Lady Of The Desert would have her measure 2000+.

They tried to turn Bel Esprit, Testa Rossa, Manikato, Luskin Star etc etc into 2000 3YO's and it didn't work. If they run fast, keep them in the sprints/miles.