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beton
24th October 2004, 03:43 PM
Somebody recently posted the win relative frequencies for the various barrier draws. could somebody please point me to where they are? Also has anybody got the tab number RFs Thanks in advance

Regards Beton

Squirter
25th October 2004, 05:49 AM
Benton,

There is a book written by Roger Biggs and Published by Orion House in Tassie called "ADVENTURES IN HANDICAPPING" and also deals with all Metro Course's Barrier Stats including WA.

Cheers.

thoroughbred
25th October 2004, 07:21 AM
On 2004-10-25 06:49, Squirter wrote:
Published by Orion House in Tassie called "ADVENTURES IN HANDICAPPING" and also deals with all Metro Course's Barrier Stats including WA.


Another Biggs book called "Thoroughbred Handicapping Tables" gives barrier RF's by Barrier, Field, and Distance which is about as detailed as you'll need .... of course you must build/program 3-dimensional lookup tables for drawdown purposes, but believe me, it's well worth the effort.

Squirter
25th October 2004, 09:01 AM
T'bred,

Yeah, got that one too.

thoroughbred
25th October 2004, 12:28 PM
Just for interest I ran a little experimental data drill today which you might find useful.

We all know that the more horses there are in a race the more interference is caused. In fact I won't bet a race with more than 12 horses ......... but that's as maybe.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I ran a query on Barriers 1 & 2 against Beaten Distance where the field size is (a) 8 or 9, and (b) 13 or 14, distance 1150 to 1699, going F & G.

What do you reckon ??

Well, the 8/9 field gave an ABD 1.25 len LESS than the 13/14 field so that gives you an idea of the size of the correction you need to apply when handicapping races to allow for field.

It will not, of course, affect those of you who rely on coincidence and place yr faith in "systems" :smile:

beton
25th October 2004, 07:10 PM
Thanks Thoroughbred and others where can i buy these books in Perth?

Regards Beton

Squirter
26th October 2004, 04:23 AM
BETON,

Christ knows where you would buy them in Perth. This is what ya need....Printed in Aussie by:-
Newprint,
8A Patriarch Drive,
Tasmania. Ph.03 6229 1919.

Distributed by:-
SHS,
P.O. Box 123,
Cygnet Tasmania. Give 'em a ring-up.

T'BRED,

Hey mate, try cutting ya distance in half, say, 1100 to 1300 and 1301 to 1600, you will find a difference.

Cheers

thoroughbred
26th October 2004, 06:35 AM
On 2004-10-25 20:10, beton wrote:
where can i buy these books?


email biggs ....... atreus@iprimus.com.au

thoroughbred
26th October 2004, 06:39 AM
On 2004-10-26 05:23, Squirter wrote:
T'BRED,
Hey mate, try cutting ya distance in half, say, 1100 to 1300 and 1301 to 1600, you will find a difference.


Yes Iknow.

I was simply endeavouring to point out that there is a difference between B1 in an 8 horse race and B1 in a 14 horse race.

Squirter
26th October 2004, 03:29 PM
Yeah mate, I was a little slow there.