SPRING CARNIVAL TIPPING COMP (Oaks Day)

[sportznut]

Rules, as per normal. (5x$10 OR 3x$10 & 1x$20 and one race must be the Oaks)

As Oaks Day isn't a holiday and there's not a lot of time for people to get tips in after Cup Day, there will be no penalty for anyone who doesn't post tips for Thursday.

Current Leaderboard:
$334.50 - Shaun
$247.00 - nulla
$209.20 - Chuck_3000
$192.50 - purpleheart68
$117.00 - punts2
$75.00 - umrum
$68.00 - moeee
$41.40 - sportznut
$15.00 - trench digger
-$10.00 - mug punta
-$18.00 - Raider
-$76.00 - racingnovice
-$85.50 - milbre
-$108.00 - maverick1993
-$115.00 - sportzRus
-$118.00 - Northerly
-$139.00 - feather
-$156.50 - bl4dez
-$160.00 - blueyyy76
-$167.00 - bwian
-$186.00 - Seeker11
-$199.00 - TESTAROSSA
-$204.00 - william
-$207.00 - storm
-$225.50 - rabbitz
-$242.00 - ra sun
-$250.00 - Raw Instinct
-$272.00 - goldmember
-$303.00 - Rogueman
-$304.00 - crash
-$362.00 - Matilda
-$370.00 - Silver_and_sand
-$373.00 - hank bulger
-$376.00 - schmucta80
-$390.00 - canecutter69
-$396.00 - smidgin
-$407.00 - ShoeIn
-$430.00 - FOOFITA
-$432.00 - xptdriver
-$440.00 - Banker
-$450.00 - davez
-$450.00 - puntz
-$450.00 - Hyperno
-$450.00 - 4nk8tor
-$450.00 - faroutfantasies


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-11-02 19:49 ]</font>

[Shaun]

No penalty hey.....maybe safer if i don't bet....naaa...wouldn't want to dissapoint anyone

[william]

CROWN OAKS
Hollow Bullet-20W

LEXUS CLASSIC
Fastnet Rock-10W

BR1-4 Turnbuckle-10W

SR1-5 Zavarga-10W

REGARDS
WILL



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[moeee]

Hey Sportznut.I was feeling very distressed last week due to a damning email from Management.
But I'm back in good spirits and still picking winners and looking forward to posting the Oaks meeting.
Cheers Mo.

[Raider]

Not much use being in the middle of the pack so here goes
MR race 3 no 7 Solar Antiquity $10
MR race 4 no 1 Tahni Girl $10
MR race 5 no 3 Kymatt $10
MR race 6 no 4 Storm Alert $20
Mr race 7 no 4 Stella Grande $10
Mr race 8 no 10 Emlozza $10
Sr race 7 no 4 Rinehart $10

$30 extra from 3 scratchings Melb Cup Day (solar antiquity, rate of knots and Sunday shoes) Hope everyone finds winners.

[sportznut]

Okay Mo, never mind. Pity you missed out on Plastered, but find a longshot or two in the next few betting days and I guess you still have a chance of winning.

[Northerly]

I took 2 minutes to come up with these tips, so crazy logic says it will be my best day. Here goes.

MR3 #1 Paraca $10
#4 Country Lodge $10
MR4 #4 Rich Megadale $10
MR5 #1 Hollow Bullet $10
MR8 #8 Recurring $10

[Oaksnaf]

All OAKS races: Hollow Bullet $20 for the win
Race 2: #4 $10W Scratched (does that mean I can choose a different race?)
Race 8: #9 $10W
Race 3: #5 (complete guess without the formgiude in front of me) $10W

If I can
Flem Race 8 #10 $10pl

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Oaksnaf on 2004-11-04 12:18 ]</font>

[smidgin]

Oaks MR6 no.1 Hollow Bullet $10 win
MR2 no.2 Hedkandi $10 win
MR3 no.11 Lucida $5 win
no.13 Taken $5 win

MR7 no.10 Cashout $20 win




<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: smidgin on 2004-11-04 09:44 ]</font>

[Chuck]

Can we have $50 on the Oaks like the Melb Cup, so we don't have to think about much? If not - forget i tipped
If so:
Hollow B $20
Storm A $10
Xaar Xaar $10
Kilykwong $10

[bwian]

oaks no4 storm alert 20win
mr3 no15 charmview 10win
mr4 no2 courtneys cuddles 10win
mr7 no2 ulysses 10win

[sportznut]

On 2004-11-04 06:14, Chuck_3000 wrote:
Can we have $50 on the Oaks like the Melb Cup, so we don't have to think about much?


Ahh no Chuck. That was just for the Melbourne Cup. If you don't have the time to look at the other races, just sit it out today and wait for Saturday.

[rabbitz]

OAKS -Kylikwong $20 WIN
Lexus-Recurring $10 WIN
Hawkesbury 6-Loftily $10 WIN
Brisbane Race 4-No.5 NATALE $10 WIN
Cheers

[trench digger]

MELB RACE 2 # 3 CAVEAT EMPTOR $10 WIN

MELB RACE 3 # 7 SOLAR ANTIQUITY $10 WIN

MELB RACE 5 # 16 SHADOW PARK $10 WIN

OAKS # 2 HOLLOW BULLET $10 WIN

MELB RACE 8 # REGIMENTAL GIRL $10 WIN

[Raw Instinct]

Oaks: Mango Daiquiri $10

MR 4: #9 Cascade Emerald $10
MR 7: #11 Emtilaak $10
MR 8: #4 Deprave $10
MR 9: #12 Chapion Blitz

[Seeker11]

MR2 No.3 CAVEAT EMPTOR $10
MR3 No.7 Solar Antiquity $10
MR4 No.4 Rich Megadale $5
MR4 No.10 Miss Mooney Mooney $5
MR6 No.1 Hollow Bullet $$10* Oaks
MR8 No.7 Regimental Gal $10

My clock sais 11:59am

[nulla]

MR3 No 6 Light Sweeper 10W
MR4 No 10 Miss Mooney Mooney 10W
MR5 No 2 Happy Ways 5W
No 16 Shadowpark 5W
MR6 No 4 Storm Alert 10W
MR9 No2 Grundy's Crossing 10W

[Silver_and_sand]

Hi everyone. Hope you all had a good Cup day. Here's today's tips:

MR6 #1 Hollow Bullet $4w/#4 Storm Alert $4w/#2 Mango Daiquiri $2w
MR8 #7 Regimental Gal $10w
BR1 #4 Turnbuckle $10w
BR3 #2 Closet $10w
PR6 #8 Miss Cherub $6w/#7 Ziggy’s Girl $4w

Good luck everyone.

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[sportznut]

FLEM R6 - 1 Hollow Bullet $5, 4 Storm Alert $5
FLEM R8 - 9 Fastnet Rock $10
HAWK R7 - 3 Sam Sung A Song $10
P.LIN R8 - 2 Marvine $10
ASCOT R9 - 5 Tory Channel $10

[sportznut]

On 2004-11-03 20:52, Oaksnaf wrote:
Race 2: #4 $10W Scratched (does that mean I can choose a different race?)
If I can
Flem Race 8 #10 $10pl


Yes you can choose another race, but there's no place betting today. That was just for the Cup.

[maverick1993]

oaks. Hollow Bullet $10

Mr7. 16 Mr Kykuyu $20
Br5. 10 Sunfair $10
Mr8. 6 Impaler $10

[bl4dez]

HAPPY WAYS $10
STORM ALERT $10
BREAK THE BARRIER $10
RECURRING $10
MR MARVELLOUS $10

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[purpleheart68]

Oaks
Hollow Bullet $20
R7 Crying Storm $10
R8 Fastnet Rock $10
Hawkesbury R6 Loftily $10
Ascot R9 Tory Channel $10
extra $10 from scr Tuesday

[moeee]

Don't know about the eligibilty,but have been having internet dropout problems big time.
Can I have $10 a win on No.2 in the last at Flemington please?

[sportznut]

You DO make things difficult MO!!!

[Shaun]

I was sitting here this morning before i left for work and thought i would have a quick look....then decided i didn't have enought time to relly check form so because there was no prnalty thought i will save it for a last try on Sat....gees they are catching me fast....only one horse i did see that i liked today was KENGRANDE should have backed it and picked 3 donkey to go with it...could have wrapped it upm today...now i have to work for it on sat

[sportznut]

Current Leaderboard:

$334.50 - Shaun
$295.50 - nulla
$239.50 - purpleheart68
$209.20 - Chuck_3000
$117.00 - punts2
$75.00 - umrum
$68.00 - moeee
$21.90 - sportznut
$17.00 - trench digger
-$10.00 - mug punta
-$25.00 - Raider
-$63.00 - bwian
-$76.00 - racingnovice
-$85.50 - milbre
-$115.00 - sportzRus
-$125.00 - Northerly
-$135.00 - maverick1993
-$139.00 - feather
-$160.00 - blueyyy76
-$169.00 - william
-$199.00 - TESTAROSSA
-$206.50 - bl4dez
-$206.50 - rabbitz
-$207.00 - storm
-$213.00 - Seeker11
-$242.00 - ra sun
-$272.00 - goldmember
-$290.00 - Raw Instinct
-$303.00 - Rogueman
-$304.00 - crash
-$362.00 - Matilda
-$373.00 - hank bulger
-$376.00 - schmucta80
-$390.00 - canecutter69
-$407.00 - ShoeIn
-$410.80 - Silver_and_sand
-$423.00 - smidgin
-$430.00 - FOOFITA
-$432.00 - xptdriver
-$435.00 - Oaksnaf
-$440.00 - Banker
-$450.00 - davez
-$450.00 - puntz
-$450.00 - Hyperno
-$450.00 - 4nk8tor
-$450.00 - faroutfantasies


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-11-04 21:50 ]</font>

[sportzRus]

sportznut, have to point out you've bent the rules and set a precedent with our mate Mo.

[sportznut]

Yes I did. Well, it WAS a good tip, so I originally thought perhaps I could credit Moeee with the win but penalize him $40 for the tips he didn't give. But I realise that doing that is not fair to everyone else in the competition and we really must stick strictly to the rules. So I'll go back and put Moeee back on his total from Tuesday.

Sorry Mo, rules is rules.


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[maverick1993]

you the man sportznut :smile: and you're doing a fine job.
How many days have we got left..as each day goes by my tips are getting longer and longer...dont know any 200/1 shots running around do you ?

[sportznut]

The next two Saturdays Mav. Ends on Sandown Classic day.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-11-04 21:58 ]</font>

[sportzRus]

On 2004-11-04 21:49, sportznut wrote:
Yes I did. Well, it WAS a good tip, so I thought I would credit Moeee with the win and penalize him $40 for the tips he didn't give. But I realise that we must stick strictly to the rules here, so I'll go back and put Mo back on his total from Tuesday.

Sorry Mo, but rules is rules.


I certainly would not have expected any special treatment regardless of circumstances. Could argue different tips all together if posted early in the day. But that's not really the point. Cheers sportznut.

[sportznut]

It's been a bit tricky sometimes with this comp, because there have been some occasions where tipsters have had the wrong number of races, the wrong amount of money, left out the feature race, bet place instead of win etc etc.

I think perhaps we should think about a rule change or two next time so maybe tipsters could have more flexability in the number of tips and also the bet types.


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[Northerly]

Nah, too much flexibility of where we can bet.
Should ONLY be races in the Carnival , (eg Melb Spring or Syd - Autumn) not Adelaide, Brisbane or Kalgoorlie and we all have to pick in the same races and bet the same amount.
That is a level playing field.

[Northerly]

Also, this would make it a lot easier for Sportz & Shaun (or whoever) to keep the results.

And I wonder how many people have actually put in tips EVERY day? I'm struggling in 16th, but at least I've been in every day.
It should be manditory. And a better way would be to go on Returns not Profit then the people who don't tip can't get any advantage against us mugs who pick 5 losers and clock up -$50 (which I've done a few times)

[sportznut]

Yeah, it would really make it a lot easier if everyone tipped in all the same races. I think we could certainly look at doing that next time.

Anyway, we'll keep the rules as they are now for the last two weeks of the comp.

[Northerly]

that's for sure, just making a suggestion for next time.
And it is called the SPRING CARNIVAL tipping comp. Not the 1MWLY Comp.

[Shaun]

Gees you meen i have to survive 2 more weeks....thats going to be tough they have me in thier sights

[Seeker11]

My suggestions for the next big tipping comp (Autumn carnival I suppose) are as follows:

(1) I think that its OK that we can select from any race meeting as that gives those that have special knowledge of racing in say WA, SA and QLD a chance. As long as the races are Metropolitan and are on UNItab and keep the feature race

(2) Do not allow any changes to tips once a participant's first selected race has begun. The forum keeps a record of edits so that should be OK.

(3) Perhaps to avoid issues of time discrepancy we need to set a half hour limit prior to a participant's first race selection to enter that week's comp, or to make changes prior to the commencement meaning if you first selection is at Race 2 at 1pm the latest you can enter or update you selections is at 12:30pm etc

(4) I agree that the competition ladder should be based on returns and not profit as this will help us that competed the whole way through the comp. This means that we could either keep or dump the scratchings carry-over.

(5) I think that we could allow E/W betting (I had a pretty good comp selecting placegetters that earned me nothing due to the win only rule)

I want to congratulate SportzNut and all those that have assisted with rule creation and policing and calculating the ladder after each round. Despite all the issues this has continued to be a successful competition run by the participants even though only pride is at stake.



_________________
may the horse be with you

Seeker

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Seeker11 on 2004-11-05 15:18 ]</font>

[umrum]

On 2004-11-04 23:04, Northerly wrote:
Nah, too much flexibility of where we can bet.
Should ONLY be races in the Carnival , (eg Melb Spring or Syd - Autumn) not Adelaide, Brisbane or Kalgoorlie and we all have to pick in the same races and bet the same amount.
That is a level playing field.


That's a joke Northerly. This comp started out so people could see where they stand roughy amongst the punters on here. Doesnt matter if you bet in kalgoorlie Bong bong or dapto. You're just filthy that i got a winner in kal at good odds and it was my best bet that day.