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Paddy
13th December 2004, 08:42 PM
Current nominations:

TRUE STEEL ...............................57.0
BLEVVO .......................................55.5
MR SANDGROPER......................55.5
FREE AT LAST (NZ) ....................54.5
TUMERIC .....................................54.5
SIR PENTIRE (NZ).......................54.0
BONDY.........................................53.5
CELTUS .......................................53.5
LAETARE .....................................53.5
CROWN PROSECUTOR .............53.0
AUSSIE STRIKE ..........................52.5
BEAU............................................52.5
BLACK TOM.................................52.5
CANAL..........................................52.5
CARDINAL COLOURS.................52.5
CONTACT POINT ........................52.5
COTTON CREEK .........................52.5
DOCTOR ROSIE..........................52.5
DUNDALLY ..................................52.5
EXCHEQUER...............................52.5
GLITZY SHOW.............................52.5
HIGGINS GOLD ...........................52.5
IDOL OF KINGS...........................52.5
I'M TOO DEADLY (NZ).................52.5
INTRIGUING (NZ)........................52.5
IRON MONGER...........................52.5
JUST A KISEKI ............................52.5
KNIGHT SCHOOL.......................52.5
LADY AVONLEA..........................52.5
LOCAL PRODUCT.......................52.5
LORD SPICE ...............................52.5
MAJOR DEAL ..............................52.5
MAROONED PRINCE..................52.5
MERCEDARIO (NZ).....................52.5
MIKIS PROSPECTOR (NZ) .........52.5
MOSS MINSTER .........................52.5
OUR SELECTION........................52.5
PERFECTLY MATCHED (NZ) .....52.5
POWER MAK (NZ).......................52.5
QUASAROCK ..............................52.5
REIGNING FORT.........................52.5
RELOCATE (NZ)..........................52.5
SABOTEUR .................................52.5
SHOELESS..................................52.5
SPECIAL JESTER .......................52.5
TAPDOG......................................52.5
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR...............52.5
VIOLENT WIND ...........................52.5
ZAKARAK ....................................52.5

Paddy
13th December 2004, 08:43 PM
Current EW fixed odds:

FREE AT LAST $2.80
CROWN PROSECUTOR $3.80
MR SANDGROPER $4.40
LAETARE $10.00
REIGNING FORT $10.00
BONDY $11.00
TRUE STEEL $11.00
HIGGINS GOLD $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00
INTRIGUING $15.00
JUST A KISEKI $17.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $17.00
QUASAROCK $18.00
BLEVVO $21.00
MERCEDARIO $21.00
RELOCATE $21.00
CELTUS $26.00
EXCHEQUER $26.00
KNIGHT SCHOOL $26.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $26.00
ZAKARAK $26.00
BEAU $31.00
DUNDALLY $31.00
SIR PENTIRE $31.00
GLITZY SHOW $51.00
POWER MAK $51.00
SHOELESS $51.00
VIOLENT WIND $51.00
BLACK TOM $61.00
MAROONED PRINCE $61.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $81.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $81.00
AUSSIE STRIKE $101.00
LADY AVONLEA $101.00
MAJOR DEAL $101.00
OUR SELECTION $101.00
TAPDOG $101.00
IDOL OF KINGS $126.00
IM TOO DEADLY $151.00
SABOTEUR $151.00
CANAL $201.00
CONTACT POINT $201.00
COTTON CREEK $201.00
DOCTOR ROSIE $201.00
IRON MONGER $201.00
LORD SPICE $201.00
MIKIS PROSPECTOR $201.00
MOSS MINSTER $201.00
SPECIAL JESTER $201.00

Sandgroper
15th December 2004, 12:46 AM
TRUE STEEL very unlikely starter. Trainer considers too much weight.

Sandgroper
15th December 2004, 12:52 AM
Current order of entry.

1. TRUE STEEL ............................ 57.0
2. FREE AT LAST ......................... 54.5
3. MR SANDGROPER .................. 55.5
4. BLEVVO.................................... 55.5
5. TUMERIC.................................. 54.5
6. SIR PENTIRE............................ 54.0
7. LAETARE.................................. 53.5
8. BONDY ..................................... 53.5
9. CELTUS.................................... 53.5
10. CROWN PROSECUTOR.......... 53.0
11. REIGNING FORT...................... 52.5
12. VIOLENT WIND ........................ 52.5
13. DUNDALLY ............................... 52.5
14. QUASAROCK ........................... 52.5
15. CARDINAL COLOURS ............. 52.5
16. UNIVERSAL WARRIOR............ 52.5
17. HIGGINS GOLD........................ 52.5
18. EXCHEQUER............................ 52.5
19. INTRIGUING ............................. 52.5
20. LOCAL PRODUCT.................... 52.5
21. SHOELESS............................... 52.5
22. MERCEDARIO.......................... 52.5
23. BEAU ........................................ 52.5
24. SPECIAL JESTER .................... 52.5
25. MAJOR DEAL ........................... 52.5
26. SABOTEUR.......................... 52.5
27. TAPDOG .............................. 52.5
28. KNIGHT SCHOOL................ 52.5
29. ZAKARAK............................. 52.5
30. JUST A KISEKI..................... 52.5
31. MAROONED PRINCE.......... 52.5
32. POWER MAK ....................... 52.5
33. IDOL OF KINGS................... 52.5
34. GLITZY SHOW..................... 52.5
35. OUR SELECTION ................ 52.5
36. RELOCATE .......................... 52.5
37. AUSSIE STRIKE .................. 52.5
38. MIKIS PROSPECTOR.......... 52.5
39. BLACK TOM......................... 52.5
40. MOSS MINSTER.................. 52.5
41. I'M TOO DEADLY................. 52.5
42. IRON MONGER ................... 52.5
43. CONTACT POINT ................ 52.5
44. LADY AVONLEA .................. 52.5
45. PERFECTLY MATCHED...... 52.5
46. DOCTOR ROSIE.................. 52.5
47. COTTON CREEK................. 52.5
48. CANAL.................................. 52.5
49. LORD SPICE........................ 52.5

Paddy
17th December 2004, 12:01 AM
Current fixed odds market:


FREE AT LAST $3.00
CROWN PROSECUTOR $4.00
MR SANDGROPER $5.00
LAETARE $11.00
REIGNING FORT $11.00
TRUE STEEL $12.00
BONDY $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00
HIGGINS GOLD $15.00
INTRIGUING $17.00
CELTUS $18.00
JUST A KISEKI $18.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $18.00
RELOCATE $23.00
MERCEDARIO $26.00
SIR PENTIRE $26.00
BLEVVO $31.00
KNIGHT SCHOOL $31.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $31.00
ZAKARAK $31.00
DUNDALLY $35.00
BEAU $41.00
VIOLENT WIND $41.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $51.00
GLITZY SHOW $61.00
MAROONED PRINCE $61.00
POWER MAK $61.00
SHOELESS $61.00
BLACK TOM $71.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $101.00
SPECIAL JESTER $101.00
AUSSIE STRIKE $126.00
SABOTEUR $126.00
TAPDOG $126.00
IDOL OF KINGS $151.00
IM TOO DEADLY $151.00
LADY AVONLEA $151.00
MAJOR DEAL $151.00
OUR SELECTION $151.00
CANAL $201.00
CONTACT POINT $201.00
COTTON CREEK $201.00
DOCTOR ROSIE $201.00
IRON MONGER $201.00
LORD SPICE $201.00
MIKIS PROSPECTOR $201.00
MOSS MINSTER $201.00

Paddy
17th December 2004, 12:02 AM
Latest market movement (50/1 & under)

Horse Previous Win Current Win

FREE AT LAST $2.80 $3.00
CROWN PROSECUTOR $3.80 $4.00
MR SANDGROPER $4.40 $5.00
LAETARE $10.00 $11.00
REIGNING FORT $10.00 $11.00
TRUE STEEL $11.00 $12.00
BONDY $11.00 $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00 $13.00
HIGGINS GOLD $13.00 $15.00
INTRIGUING $15.00 $17.00
CELTUS $26.00 $18.00
JUST A KISEKI $17.00 $18.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $17.00 $18.00
RELOCATE $21.00 $23.00
MERCEDARIO $21.00 $26.00
SIR PENTIRE $31.00 $26.00
BLEVVO $21.00 $31.00
KNIGHT SCHOOL $26.00 $31.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $26.00 $31.00
ZAKARAK $26.00 $31.00
DUNDALLY $31.00 $35.00
BEAU $31.00 $41.00
VIOLENT WIND $51.00 $41.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $81.00 $51.00

Paddy
17th December 2004, 12:03 AM
Main firmers include CELTUS, SIR PENTIRE, VIOLENT WIND & VIOLENT WIND

shaun1993
19th December 2004, 04:19 PM
Main firmers include CELTUS, SIR PENTIRE, VIOLENT WIND & VIOLENT WIND

Two of those firmers – CELTUS and VIOLENT WIND did poorly yesterday Paddy. I know it was far short of 2 mile, but think I’d be asking for my money back!

Paddy
19th December 2004, 05:26 PM
I expected Violent Wind to perform better, on paper a very poor run. Didn’t fancy Celtus, from memory first run back since poor eastern states campaign. I’d be waiting to see a bit of form before I put any on.

Paddy
19th December 2004, 11:29 PM
Interesting market reaction shaun1993. Celtus has the wobbles, Violent Wind still firming.

Paddy
19th December 2004, 11:30 PM
Current EW fixed odds:

FREE AT LAST $3.00
CROWN PROSECUTOR $4.00
MR SANDGROPER $5.00
LAETARE $9.00
REIGNING FORT $11.00
TRUE STEEL $12.00
BONDY $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00
HIGGINS GOLD $15.00
INTRIGUING $18.00
JUST A KISEKI $18.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $18.00
CELTUS $26.00
MERCEDARIO $26.00
VIOLENT WIND $26.00
KNIGHT SCHOOL $31.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $31.00
BLEVVO $35.00
DUNDALLY $35.00
ZAKARAK $35.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $41.00
SIR PENTIRE $51.00
GLITZY SHOW $61.00
RELOCATE $61.00
SHOELESS $61.00
BLACK TOM $101.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $101.00
POWER MAK $101.00
SPECIAL JESTER $101.00
MAROONED PRINCE $126.00
SABOTEUR $126.00
IDOL OF KINGS $151.00
MAJOR DEAL $151.00
OUR SELECTION $151.00
TAPDOG $151.00
AUSSIE STRIKE $201.00
CANAL $201.00
CONTACT POINT $201.00
COTTON CREEK $201.00
DOCTOR ROSIE $201.00
IM TOO DEADLY $201.00
IRON MONGER $201.00
LADY AVONLEA $201.00
LORD SPICE $201.00
MIKIS PROSPECTOR $201.00
MOSS MINSTER $201.00

Paddy
19th December 2004, 11:31 PM
Latest market movement (50/1 & under)

Horse Previous EW Current EW
FREE AT LAST $3.00 $3.00
CROWN PROSECUTOR $4.00 $4.00
MR SANDGROPER $5.00 $5.00
LAETARE $11.00 $9.00
REIGNING FORT $11.00 $11.00
TRUE STEEL $12.00 $12.00
BONDY $13.00 $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00 $13.00
HIGGINS GOLD $15.00 $15.00
INTRIGUING $17.00 $18.00
JUST A KISEKI $18.00 $18.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $18.00 $18.00
CELTUS $18.00 $26.00
MERCEDARIO $26.00 $26.00
VIOLENT WIND $41.00 $26.00
KNIGHT SCHOOL $31.00 $31.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $31.00 $31.00
BLEVVO $31.00 $35.00
DUNDALLY $35.00 $35.00
ZAKARAK $31.00 $35.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $51.00 $41.00
SIR PENTIRE $26.00 $51.00

Paddy
19th December 2004, 11:32 PM
Main firmers include Violent Wind & Cardinal Cardinals.

westman
21st December 2004, 12:28 AM
Still early days but have already backed TUMERIC EW.

watsonnek
21st December 2004, 01:27 AM
Still early days but have already backed TUMERIC EW.


dont blame you westman....on the right track imo....smart win last year with (i think) only .5kg less...big run wed and watch him tumble in

Chrome Prince
21st December 2004, 02:25 AM
Tumeric appears to be excellent eachway value, I'd be pretty confident of a place at this stage.

Paddy
23rd December 2004, 10:45 AM
Current EW fixed odds 100/1 & under

FREE AT LAST $2.30
LAETARE $6.00
MR SANDGROPER $7.00
REIGNING FORT $7.00
CROWN PROSECUTOR $8.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00
TRUE STEEL $15.00
BONDY (listed as a doubtful starter) $17.00
BLACK TOM $21.00
JUST A KISEKI $21.00
HIGGINS GOLD $26.00
CELTUS $31.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $31.00
VIOLENT WIND $31.00
BLEVVO (listed as a doubtful starter) $35.00
ZAKARAK $35.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $51.00
MERCEDARIO $51.00
GLITZY SHOW $61.00
POWER MAK $61.00
CONTACT POINT $81.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $101.00
SHOELESS $101.00
SPECIAL JESTER $101.00

Paddy
23rd December 2004, 10:46 AM
Latest market movement 100/1 & under

Horse Previous EW Current EW
FREE AT LAST $3.00 $2.30
LAETARE $9.00 $6.00
MR SANDGROPER $5.00 $7.00
REIGNING FORT $11.00 $7.00
CROWN PROSECUTOR $4.00 $8.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $18.00 $13.00
TUMERIC $13.00 $13.00
TRUE STEEL $12.00 $15.00
BONDY (listed as a doubtful starter) $13.00 $17.00
BLACK TOM $101.00 $21.00
JUST A KISEKI $18.00 $21.00
HIGGINS GOLD $15.00 $26.00
CELTUS $26.00 $31.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $31.00 $31.00
VIOLENT WIND $26.00 $31.00
BLEVVO (listed as a doubtful starter) $35.00 $35.00
ZAKARAK $35.00 $35.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $41.00 $51.00
MERCEDARIO $26.00 $51.00
GLITZY SHOW $61.00 $61.00
POWER MAK $101.00 $61.00
CONTACT POINT $201.00 $81.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $101.00 $101.00
SHOELESS $61.00 $101.00
SPECIAL JESTER $101.00 $101.00

Paddy
23rd December 2004, 10:47 AM
Not surprisingly the C.B.COX STAKE placegetters have all firmed, particularly BLACK TOM. Others that have firmed include REIGNING FORT, LOCAL PRODUCT, ex Enzedder POWER MAK & ex Sydneysider CONTACT POINT.

Sandgroper
24th December 2004, 11:19 AM
True Steel has been officially withdrawn from the cup.
Mr Sandgroper very unlikely, reported jaded (after poor performance in the Cox)

TobinBronze
25th December 2004, 08:00 AM
Yet another ‘city’ 2mile cup that still has group status, amazing. Generally speaking almost always turns out to be just another (albeit with more than normal prize-money) race for the local stayers. Timing of this race in particular should be reviewed. Why would any interstate or o/s (e.g. NZ) trainer want to travel over west to race in the middle of Perth’s notorious hot summer. Keep the other ‘city’ cups but reduce the distance and status. Then let’s create an alternate ‘shared’ 2mile cup (call what you want) that dovetails out of the Melbourne Cup carnival that is hosted in different locations (including NZ) on a rotation basis.
Would work for me. Yo Ho Ho!

Ozgunner
25th December 2004, 09:59 AM
Yet another ‘city’ 2mile cup that still has group status, amazing. Generally speaking almost always turns out to be just another (albeit with more than normal prize-money) race for the local stayers. Timing of this race in particular should be reviewed. Why would any interstate or o/s (e.g. NZ) trainer want to travel over west to race in the middle of Perth’s notorious hot summer. Keep the other ‘city’ cups but reduce the distance and status. Then let’s create an alternate ‘shared’ 2mile cup (call what you want) that dovetails out of the Melbourne Cup carnival that is hosted in different locations (including NZ) on a rotation basis.
Would work for me. Yo Ho Ho!


Yeah, with say the first 8 or so that just missed a MC start (balloted out) being automatic qualifiers for the new cup.

Paddy
26th December 2004, 05:50 AM
Officially withdrawn are BEAU, BLEVVO, BONDY, DOCTOR ROSIE, DUNDALLY, EXCHEQUER, INTRIGUING, KNIGHT SCHOOL, MR SANDGROPER, QUASAROCK, SABOTEUR, SIR PENTIRE & TRUE STEEL.

Paddy
26th December 2004, 06:02 AM
PROVISIONAL ORDER OF ENTRY as at 24 December 2004

1. FREE AT LAST 54.5
2. TUMERIC 54.5
3. LAETARE 53.5
4. CELTUS 53.5
5. CROWN PROSECUTOR 53.0
6. REIGNING FORT 52.5
7. VIOLENT WIND 52.5
8. CARDINAL COLOURS 52.5
9. UNIVERSAL WARRIOR 52.5
10. HIGGINS GOLD 52.5
11. LOCAL PRODUCT 52.5
12. SHOELESS 52.5
13. MERCEDARIO 52.5
14. BLACK TOM 52.5
15. SPECIAL JESTER 52.5
16. MAJOR DEAL 52.5
17. TAPDOG 52.5
18. ZAKARAK 52.5
19. JUST A KISEKI 52.5
20. MAROONED PRINCE 52.5
21. POWER MAK 52.5
22. IDOL OF KINGS 52.5
23. GLITZY SHOW 52.5
24. OUR SELECTION 52.5
25. RELOCATE 52.5
26. AUSSIE STRIKE 52.5
27. MIKIS PROSPECTOR 52.5
28. MOSS MINSTER. 52.5
29. I'M TOO DEADLY 52.5
30. IRON MONGER 52.5
31. CONTACT POINT 52.5
32. LADY AVONLEA 52.5
33. PERFECTLY MATCHED 52.5
34. COTTON CREEK 52.5
35. CANAL 52.5
36. LORD SPICE 52.5

Paddy
26th December 2004, 06:03 AM
Current EW fixed odds market:

FREE AT LAST $2.10
CROWN PROSECUTOR $5.00
LAETARE $6.00
REIGNING FORT $7.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $10.00
TUMERIC $12.00
BLACK TOM $14.00
JUST A KISEKI $21.00
HIGGINS GOLD $26.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $26.00
CELTUS $31.00
VIOLENT WIND $31.00
ZAKARAK $35.00
MERCEDARIO $51.00
POWER MAK $51.00
GLITZY SHOW $61.00
CONTACT POINT $81.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $101.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $101.00
SHOELESS $101.00
SPECIAL JESTER $101.00
MAROONED PRINCE $126.00
IDOL OF KINGS $151.00
MAJOR DEAL $151.00
OUR SELECTION $151.00
AUSSIE STRIKE $201.00
CANAL $201.00
COTTON CREEK $201.00
IM TOO DEADLY $201.00
IRON MONGER $201.00
LADY AVONLEA $201.00
LORD SPICE $201.00
MIKIS PROSPECTOR $201.00
MOSS MINSTER $201.00
TAPDOG $201.00

Paddy
26th December 2004, 06:04 AM
Latest market movement (100/1 & under):

Horse Previous EW Current EW
FREE AT LAST $2.30 $2.10
CROWN PROSECUTOR $8.00 $5.00
LAETARE $6.00 $6.00
REIGNING FORT $7.00 $7.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $13.00 $10.00
TUMERIC $13.00 $12.00
BLACK TOM $21.00 $14.00
JUST A KISEKI $21.00 $21.00
HIGGINS GOLD $26.00 $26.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $31.00 $26.00
CELTUS $31.00 $31.00
VIOLENT WIND $31.00 $31.00
ZAKARAK $35.00 $35.00
MERCEDARIO $51.00 $51.00
POWER MAK $61.00 $51.00
GLITZY SHOW $61.00 $61.00
CONTACT POINT $81.00 $81.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $51.00 $101.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED $101.00 $101.00
SHOELESS $101.00 $101.00
SPECIAL JESTER $101.00 $101.00

Paddy
26th December 2004, 06:05 AM
Firmed - FREE AT LAST, CROWN PROSECUTOR, LOCAL PRODUCT, TUMERIC, BLACK TOM, UNIVERSAL WARRIOR & POWER MAK

Drifted - CARDINAL COLOURS

Sandgroper
28th December 2004, 01:59 PM
Final declarations for the Cup.


1 Free At Last(NZ) 54.5 A D Mathews
2 Tumeric 54.5 A D Mathews
3 Sir Pentire(NZ) 54 R Laing
4 Laetare 53.5 E A Martinovich
5 Crown Prosecutor 53 L Smith
6 Black Tom 52.5 B G Lucas
7 Cardinal Colours 52.5 M H Miller
8 Glitzy Show 52.5 G C Ballantyne
9 Higgins Gold 52.5 G F Durrant
10 Idol Of Kings 52.5 W J Miller
11 Just A Kiseki 52.5 B M Dudley
12 Local Product 52.5 I J Thompson
13 Marooned Prince 52.5 G F Durrant
14 Mercedario(NZ) 52.5 N D Parnham
15 Power Mak(NZ) 52.5 W J Mitchell
16 Shoeless 52.5 N E Pascoe
17 Universal Warrior 52.5 N D Parnham
18 Violent Wind 52.5 J W Lugg
19 Lady Avonlea E 1 52.5 J R Clements
20 Perfectly Matched(NZ) E 2 52.5 R W Price

Paddy
29th December 2004, 02:19 AM
Final declarations for the Cup.


1 Free At Last(NZ) 54.5 A D Mathews
2 Tumeric 54.5 A D Mathews
3 Sir Pentire(NZ) 54 R Laing
4 Laetare 53.5 E A Martinovich
5 Crown Prosecutor 53 L Smith
6 Black Tom 52.5 B G Lucas
7 Cardinal Colours 52.5 M H Miller
8 Glitzy Show 52.5 G C Ballantyne
9 Higgins Gold 52.5 G F Durrant
10 Idol Of Kings 52.5 W J Miller
11 Just A Kiseki 52.5 B M Dudley
12 Local Product 52.5 I J Thompson
13 Marooned Prince 52.5 G F Durrant
14 Mercedario(NZ) 52.5 N D Parnham
15 Power Mak(NZ) 52.5 W J Mitchell
16 Shoeless 52.5 N E Pascoe
17 Universal Warrior 52.5 N D Parnham
18 Violent Wind 52.5 J W Lugg
19 Lady Avonlea E 1 52.5 J R Clements
20 Perfectly Matched(NZ) E 2 52.5 R W Price


Cheers Sandgroper, it's been a pleasure.

Paddy
29th December 2004, 02:20 AM
EW fixed odds:

FREE AT LAST $2.25
CROWN PROSECUTOR $5.00
LAETARE $7.00
JUST A KISEKI $12.00
LOCAL PRODUCT $12.00
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR $12.00
BLACK TOM $15.00
TUMERIC $17.00
POWER MAK $21.00
HIGGINS GOLD $35.00
SIR PENTIRE $51.00
VIOLENT WIND $51.00
MERCEDARIO $101.00
CARDINAL COLOURS $126.00
IDOL OF KINGS $126.00
PERFECTLY MATCHED (2E) $126.00
GLITZY SHOW $151.00
MAROONED PRINCE $151.00
LADY AVONLEA (1E) $201.00
SHOELESS $201.00

Sandgroper
29th December 2004, 03:48 PM
TAB NO. HORSE BARRIER CLASS WEIGHT JOCKEY TRAINER

1 Free At Last(NZ) 16 OPN 54.5 Troy Turner A D Mathews
2 Tumeric 12 OPN 54.5 John Claite A D Mathews
3 Sir Pentire(NZ) 18 OPN 54 Troy Jackman R Laing
4 Laetare 1 OPN 53.5 David O'Heare E A Martinovich
5 Crown Prosecutor 7 OPN 53 William Pike L Smith
6 Black Tom 8 CL3 52.5 Peter Hall B G Lucas
7 Cardinal Colours 17 OPN 52.5 Danny Miller M H Miller
8 Glitzy Show 4 OPN 52.5 Kevin Forrester G C Ballantyne
9 Higgins Gold 14 CL6 52.5 Jason Miller G F Durrant
10 Idol Of Kings 11 CL5 52.5 Damian Miller W J Miller
11 Just A Kiseki 15 OPN 52.5 Lucas Camilleri B M Dudley
12 Local Product 5 CL6 52.5 Patrick Carbery I J Thompson
13 Marooned Prince 2 CL6 52.5 Neil Chapman G F Durrant
14 Mercedario(NZ) 3 OPN 52.5 Brad Parnham N D Parnham
15 Power Mak(NZ) 9 OPN 52.5 Peter Knuckey W J Mitchell
16 Shoeless 19 OPN 52.5 Jason Brown N E Pascoe
17 Universal Warrior 10 OPN 52.5 Steven Parnham N D Parnham
18 Violent Wind 20 OPN 52.5 Shaun O'Donnell J W Lugg
19 E1 Lady Avonlea 13 CL4 52.5 Clint Harvey J R Clements
20 E2 Perfectly Matched(NZ) 6 CL2 52.5 Dion Luciani R W Price

roman@oz
29th December 2004, 09:51 PM
FREE AT LAST
BLACK TOM
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR
TUMERIC

FremantleDoctor
30th December 2004, 01:48 AM
Higgins Gold
Black Tom
Free At Last
Laetare

squirtz
30th December 2004, 04:22 PM
FREE AT LAST
CROWN PROSECUTOR
LAETARE
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR

Modem
30th December 2004, 06:16 PM
<2> Tumeric
<1> Free At Last
<6> Black Tom
<11> Just A Kiseki

sportsmad
30th December 2004, 07:30 PM
1/ FREE AT LAST
6/ BLACK TOM
4/ LAETARE
3/ SIR PENTIRE

Even Stevens
31st December 2004, 01:44 AM
2 TUMERIC
1 FREE AT LAST
15 POWER MAK
8 GLITZY SHOW

armchairjock
31st December 2004, 03:17 AM
FREE AT LAST does look the one they have to beat.

luv2bet
31st December 2004, 09:10 AM
Universal warrior e/w

eddie72
31st December 2004, 10:04 AM
(1) FREE AT LAST
(4) LAETARE
(17) UNIVERSAL WARRIOR
(5) CROWN PROSECUTOR

whiterhino
31st December 2004, 10:48 AM
1) FREE AT LAST to win
14) MERCEDARIO to place

Galilee
31st December 2004, 12:20 PM
FREE AT LAST bit short but has the form.
LAETARE
JUST A KISEKI
LOCAL PRODUCT

pipedream
31st December 2004, 01:01 PM
1) FREE AT LAST
2) TUMERIC
6) BLACK TOM
18) VIOLENT WIND

Radar67
31st December 2004, 01:25 PM
2 Tumeric

3200M winner who has run some ok races in Melbourne

gum stumpa
31st December 2004, 06:46 PM
LAETARE
CROWN PROSECUTOR
FREE AT LAST
BLACK TOM

goldeee
31st December 2004, 07:19 PM
1) FREE AT LAST

suds
31st December 2004, 07:32 PM
6) Black Tom
2) Tumeric
1) Free At Last
16) Shoeless

Filante
31st December 2004, 08:03 PM
I have them rated as follows:

1. Free At Last $3.7
5. Crown Prosecutor $4.0
4. Laetare $5.5
11. Just a Kiseki $7.5
6. Black Tom $8.5

reinz
31st December 2004, 11:34 PM
Free At Last
Universal Warrior
Black Tom
Just a Kiseki

partypooper
1st January 2005, 06:06 AM
Commonsense = Crown Prosecutor

Gut = Just A Kiseki

PPm = Cardinal Colours

One eye on = Tumeric

In_retrospect
1st January 2005, 09:40 AM
Hard to go past FREE AT LAST, been very impressive since returning west after having a reasonable campaign in Melbourne. Last years winner TUMERIC appears to have been set for this race only, hence hasn't done much form wise in recent times. BLACK TOM caught the eye last start, running home strongly behind FREE AT LAST. Was at cricket score odds that day, if no fluke could go on with it. HIGGINS GOLD from memory finished in front of FREE AT LAST in last year's cup, seems also been set for this 1 race only.

Duritz
1st January 2005, 10:11 AM
Value definitely black tom, meets free at last better at weights and can't see any reason why he won't repeat the run. Doubting crown prosecutor is up to the class. I said the same before LS and although that was a slaughter and Pike has ridden it well I see no reason to change. Watch Just a Kiseki, that was a career best run LS, definite chance. Here's my prices, to an 80% value market:

race 8 7.20
seln mgn price name
1 0.0 $5.4 FREE AT LAST
6 0.5 $6.6 BLACK TOM
4 0.9 $9.1 LAETARE
11 1.2 $10.6 JUST A KISEKI
12 1.6 $14.6 LOCAL PRODUCT
3 1.9 $18.8 SIR PENTIRE
5 2.1 $23.7 CROWN PROSECUTOR
9 2.6 $42.4 HIGGINS GOLD

iggy25
1st January 2005, 10:44 AM
Not much between 1 FREE AT LAST (4th last year) and 9 HIGGINS GOLD (3rd last year)

HIGGINS GOLD finished 1L in front of FREE AT LAST and meets that horse 0.5kg better. FREE AT LAST looks to have improved.

Seekray
1st January 2005, 12:39 PM
Free At Last
Laetare
Crown Prosecutor
Universal Warrior

Kingston Rule
1st January 2005, 01:26 PM
(1) Free at Last
(6) Black Tom
(9) Higgins Gold
(5) Crown Prosecutor

humdinger
1st January 2005, 02:18 PM
5- CROWN PROSECUTOR
11- JUST A KISEKI
7- CARDINAL COLOURS
1- FREE AT LAST

roman@oz
1st January 2005, 03:49 PM
JUST A KISEKI has found form at the right time and looks an improver.
UNIVERSAL WARRIOR
FREE AT LAST
HIGGINS GOLD

Lucky Phil
1st January 2005, 06:22 PM
(1) FREE AT LAST
(6) BLACK TOM
(15) POWER MAK
(9) HIGGINS GOLD

Geez
1st January 2005, 07:00 PM
Free At Last - Laetare - Black Tom - Higgins Gold

blinkerz
1st January 2005, 07:14 PM
no. 15 Power Mak
no. 17 Universal Warrior
no. 11 Just A kiseki
no. 1 Free At Last

feather
1st January 2005, 07:14 PM
#1 free at last
#6 black tom
#17 universal warrior
#4 laetare

sportz&all
1st January 2005, 07:19 PM
Tumeric / Higgins Gold EW

Paddy
2nd January 2005, 05:30 AM
08 BMW PERTH CUP
3200 Metres
7:20pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE
4TH LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
5 5.40 2.10
1...............1.50
6...............3.10

QUINELLA (1-5) 8.60
EXACTA (5-1) 16.20
TRIFECTA
(5-1-6) 188.50
FIRST 4
(5-1-6-4) 394.00
QUADRELLA
(4-13-2-5) 18,802.40

(5) CROWN PROSECUTOR (W.PIKE)
(1) FREE AT LAST (T.TURNER)
(6) BLACK TOM (P.HALL)

SCR - 3,20
Quadrella Sub = 1

gum stumpa
3rd January 2005, 11:36 AM
LAETARE
CROWN PROSECUTOR
FREE AT LAST
BLACK TOM


More than happy with the result.

MyHatMyCoat
3rd January 2005, 11:58 AM
Yeah a great (social) event as usual! At least what I remember of it!!

Paddy
6th January 2005, 10:20 AM
CROWN PROSECUTOR selected by squirtz, eddie72, Galilee, gum stumpa, Filante, partypooper, Seekray, Kingston Rule & humdinger

FREE AT LAST selected by roman@oz, FremantleDoctor, squirtz, Modem, sportsmad, Even Stevens, armchairjock, eddie72, whiterhino, pipedream, gum stumpa, goldeee, suds, Filante, reinz, In Retrospect, iggy25, Seekray, Kingston Rule, humdinger, Lucky Phil, Geez, blinkerz & feather

BLACK TOM selected by FremantleDoctor, Modem, sportsmad, pipedream, gum stumpa, suds, Filante, reinz, In Retrospect, Kingston Rule, Lucky Phil, Geez & feather

LAETARE selected by FremantleDoctor, squirtz, sportsmad, eddie72, Galilee, gum stumpa, Filante, Seekray, Geez & feather