Something new for me

[kenchar]

As I don't have a lot of success with my usual thing on saturdays and I don't bet, for the past month or so I have been playing with something (no smart comments please) for sats only and so far so good..

Lets see how they go today.

Sydney R3 no1 R6 no2 R8 no7.

Melbourne R1 no1 R6 no3 R8 no1.

Brisbane R4 no1 R6 no6.

Adelaide R3 no4 R8 no1.

Cheers

[kenchar]

Held up again today, approx 5 points profit depending where you placed your bet.

Will keep playing around for a couple of more weeks before putting $ on.

Cheers

[Shaun]

Was that for win or place mate

[partypooper]

Well done Kenchar keep it up. But you would still have done better with PPM (Partypoopers Plum Movers) which included SR9-12 Cash Carter @ $30.70c,
Just took the opportunity to blow my own trumpet!! hee hee!

[kenchar]

Shaun,

All win bets, too short prices for place.

Partypooper,

Good onya I always like to hear success stories, but I think the run of outs you would have would give me heart failure.

Anyhow as said will keep following and if looks OK will share around.

It's all done manually using the Sportsman and doesn't take long to work out a whole day.

Cheers

[kenchar]

Just out of curiosity I thought I'd work this sat thing out for wednesday.

Sandown R1 no1__R2 no2__R6 no2__R8 no2.

Ipswich R2 no4__R7 no5 place__R8 no2.

Port Lincoln R4 no1__R5 no1__R7no5.

Just mucking around but one never knows?

[marcus25]

Just out of curiosity I thought I'd work this sat thing out for wednesday.

Sandown R1 no1__R2 no2__R6 no2__R8 no2.

Ipswich R2 no4__R7 no5 place__R8 no2.

Port Lincoln R4 no1__R5 no1__R7no5.

Just mucking around but one never knows?

Hi Kenchar!
Let's make it a contest!
Here are my selections on the same races. No winner or looser here though! All in good fun!
SAN. R1 #2
SAN. R2 #5
SAN. R6 #2
SAN. R8 #6
---------------
IPS. R2 #5
IPS. R7 #8
IPS. R8 #3
-----------
POL. R4 #4
POL. R5 #6
POL. R7 #12

[Sportz]

POL. R4 #4
POL. R5 #6
POL. R7 #12

We're betting on races from Poland now? :D

[marcus25]

We're betting on races from Poland now? :D
Sorry Sportz but I am so used to the abbreviated track names! My apologies. Of course I meant Port Lincoln!
Cheers!

[kenchar]

marcus25,

I like the idea, except I am the worst form student on this forum, I have just been mucking around with the charts in the Sportsman, very easy to use as the whole stats on the race are there in front of you.
I have come up with 8 things to look for and if a horse complies with 3 of them it is a bet.
Very simple and each race takes less than a minute.
I have been suprised how it has performed on the sats, BUT early days.
I just hope it pans out so I can contribute something to certain people on the forum.
I have been waffling on this forum for a long time but have not contributed much because what I do daily is hard to explain, I have tried but I can't post what goes through my head.
I am half pissed in a great frame of mind as the little puppy I was tipped tonight more than doubled my wages for the day.
Lets see what happens tomorrow.
Talking about being pissed, My Wife doesn't drink but tonight I made Her a jamaican rum, coconut juice, and pineapple juice and by the look of Her the night is going to get better.
LUV this FORUM

Cheers.

[Merriguy]

What about tomorrow morning though!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kenchar]

Probably be like an old surfing movie I saw when I was a kid (a bloody long time ago).
Slippery when wet and stickey when dry.

Night night time to go to bed the Wife is beckoning.

[kenchar]

marcus25.

According to my calcs I finished 7 points up and you finished 3 up,
but that includes Bris R7 no5 which I said place so I guess you came out ahead, but I must say I am impressed with what I,m doing.

Very quick very easy and mickey mouse could work it out.

Cheers

[marcus25]

marcus25.

According to my calcs I finished 7 points up and you finished 3 up,
but that includes Bris R7 no5 which I said place so I guess you came out ahead, but I must say I am impressed with what I,m doing.

Very quick very easy and mickey mouse could work it out.

Cheers
Hi Kenchar.

Great!
Let's do it again when you do your ratings!
Cheers.

[Shaun]

Don't tell us you are a converted win better now kenchar

[kenchar]

Shaun,

Nope!!!!!!!!!!

Just playing around but very interesting, BUT I,m sure like anything I've tried to do before will fall into a big hole, EXCEPT what I'm doing.

The interesting thing though is I did the selections last night BEFORE scratchings, IF I had done them today AFTER scratchings there was an another 3 bets that all won at between 2.5 and 3.0.

It actually is very interesting and if holds up will run as a second method, BUT as always 1 point then get pissed.

If you want me to Email the rules just let me know on this thread.

Cheers

[Shaun]

Kenchar have you changed your e-mail...i sent you an e-mail....if you have you can e-mail me shaun2166@hotmail.com

[kenchar]

I recieved your email and have replied.

[Bhagwan]

Hi Kenchar,
Could I take up your kind offer of a copy
Please forward to

bhk at bigpond dot net dot au

[Merriguy]

I would be interested too, Kenchar. Have appreciated your help often given in the forum. Can understand, too, the difficulties you have encountered in trying to help us understand what you actually do as your main punting effort. I have tried to emulate with mixed success. Still every little bit of understanding helps :)

pronev at 9Y dot com

[shoto]

Kenchar, would you be able to send that to me too? I don't want to abuse your generosity, but I'd appreciate it very much if you were able!

bertrambear at yahoo dot com dot au
Cheers!

[Dalray]

Kenchar,

I wouldn`t mind a look at it also, being a user of the Sportsman maybe a filter or two I don`t use and may have a couple for You. Would be very gratefull.
Ray

dalray at very warm male dot com

[kenchar]

Here we go again.

Rosehill, R1 no6--R2 no5--R3 no5--R4 no2--R6 no2.

Sandown R3 no1--R4 no's1+7--R7 no8.

Eagle Farm R1 no1-- R2 no's3+7--R3 no7--R4 no6--R5 no4--R7 no8.

Vic Park R1 no5--R2 no5--R3 no1--R4 no1--R5 no4-- R6 no10--R7 no2--R8 no8.

A bit disconcerning the amount of bets it has thrown up this, has never happened before.

Anyhow lets see how it goes.

Cheers

[kenchar]

shoto and Dalray,

Emails sent.

Merriguy,

Thanks for the link looks interesting, will put some time in that one.

Cheers

[newpunter]

If your offer is still open I would also appreciate a copy

newpunter at optusnet dot com au



cheers

[shoto]

Received thanks Kenchar. I'll return the favour sometime.

Cheers!

[Random]

any edge is helpfull and will be reciprocated
would appreciate copy also
regards
shalor@tpg,com,au

[Goldcoaster]

Could you please email that to me as well
chard_@hotmail.com
Thanks in advance

[kenchar]

I.ve sent 3 emails and they all bounce back to me????????

[Jimmy]

Hi Kenchar,

"A bit disconcerning the amount of bets it has thrown up this, has never happened before."

"Anyhow lets see how it goes."

I know early days Kenchar, but to reduce bets have you considered using more than your 3 criteria to come up with selections. I am sure you have :). Does it increase strikerate?

Can you post me the method also.

jamrad64 at yahoo dot com dot au

Thanks in advance.

[marcus25]

[QUOTE=kenchar]Here we go again.
Hi Kenchar!

Rosehill,
R1 5 Bullet Express
R2 1 Lieutenant
R3 3 Dane Shakira
R4 1 Dower
R6 1 Vitesse Dane
------------------
Sandown
R3 1 Talons Shown
R4 3 Kistadan & 7 Show Us Your Legs
R7 11 Delway
--------------------
Eagle Farm
R1 1 Foolish
R2 7 Noble Gent & 3 Helter Skelter
R3 8 Belcoff #7 SCR.
R4 6 Rock of Mufasa
R5 4 Proud Native
R7 13 Planagram.
--------------------
Vic Park
R1 5 Danalaga
R2 3 Dalny Road
R3 1 Sparkling Now
R4 1 Strikes Back
R5 2 Maybe McLaren
R6 2 Outpoint
R7 3 Finniss D'or
R8 10 Lord Exmouth.
Cheers and good punting.

[GREENGRASS]

Kenchar
would you kindly let me have a copy
Don

[jose]

Would you be as kind as to email the rules to me as well please Kenchar.
I too have followed (tried) what you do but with very limited success.
Thanks in advance ,
Jose.
PS jfimmer at ourbrisbane . com

[KennyVictor]

I'd like a copy too please Kenchar if your not tired of emailing yet.

kennyvictor_1047 at hotmail dot com

[kenchar]

A bit late posting results, but I've been out trying to hire a backhoe to dig ourselves out of the hole we both fell in.

Again depending where one bets I worked it out I lost 7 points and you lost 9. This is what I thought might happen after a while.
The same as virtually everything else I've tried, goes OK for a while then falls in a hole.
Even if I had got a min of 1 point ahead for the day I would have been happy as thats the way I would play it if I used it.
I will follow it for a few more weeks to see how it goes before putting $ on,
but not real confident.
I know I sound like a whinger because it had a losing day, but believe me I do not bet for fun or to lose.
That's why I will always bet using hit and run, small profit daily, big profit at the end of the month.

To all you other Guys will send you all an email sometime tonite, BUT please tread very careful as I don't want anyone losing money.
Just maybe one of you can refine it a bit.

Cheers

[kenchar]

Emails sent except for greengrass.

I got a pretty smart carrier pidgeon, put the method in a small cylinder on his leg and whispered in his ear "Go find greengrass"

[marcus25]

[QUOTE=kenchar]A bit late posting results, but I've been out trying to hire a backhoe to dig ourselves out of the hole we both fell in.

Kenchar, as good old Bjelke P used to say "Don't you worry about it"
Today was a disaster for me everywhere but I was almost expecting it and was prepared for it.
It happens!!
Do not change tracks because of it. I do not have a system, I do rate every race I want to bet on and in the long run I'm doing fine.
What went against us today is the number of races qualifying, you mentioned it yourself.
One cannot bet on every race and hope to come out on top.
One good thing about punting is that you can always evaluate, revise and rethink your strategy providing you do not blow the bank?.
There is always a tomorrow and a new race!!

Cheers

[GREENGRASS]

why not give up racing and become a comedian?
i didnt realize that you had to be part of the
[click}
New members take note
Don

[kenchar]

Just my sense of humour, but how the hell can I email you when you didn't give me an address. Just thought a carrier pidgeon the next best thing

[GREENGRASS]

"Sorry"
I jumped the gun and got the wrong end of the stick my apologies
if you think i am still deserving
bengie@westnet.com.au
Don

[kenchar]

I have sent a second pigeon (email) I hope you recieve it.

I just realised I have been spelling pigeon wrong, the way I spelt it was the way it is used in pidgeon english.

I hope I haven't offended any native people, if I have I apologise in advance.

[GREENGRASS]

Pigeon arrived safe and well thanks
Don

[monkeyinjapan]

Hi Kenchar,

It's spelt the same way as the bird.

"Pigeon English [perhaps a corruption of business English], an extraordinary and grotesque dialect, employed in the commercial cities of China, as the medium of communication between foreign merchants and the Chinese. Its base is English, with a mixture of Portuguese and Hindoostanee." --Johnson's Cyc

Don't even ask me where that last language comes from! Best of luck with your system Kenchar, and don't worry too much about having a bad day -- you weren't on your lonesome in that regard on Saturday.

Monkeyinjapan

[kenchar]

TOUCHE"

[KennyVictor]

Cheers for the rules Kenchar. I thought your homing pigeon joke was a clever reference to Claude Jeremiah Greengrass the famous poacher in Heartbeat. Now he really would have used a carrier pigeon.

Kenny

[kenchar]

My own idea and I stuffed up on sat.

To all you out there that know the rules will know what I am talking about.

S5, Wicked Wizard I had it marked in the sportsman but for some reason didn't transfer it to the sheet I made going race to race.
outside barrier---top zip---7 days, paid $7.2.

A3, Thirsk was from barrier 2 but Sweedan was scratched so Thirsk then had the inside barrier and became a bet. paid 5.9.

That gives an extra profit of approx 11 points less the loss I posted which gives a profit of 4 points on the day.

I feel a bit better now but I know if I start putting money on this I will be doing my paperwork BEFORE the chardonny.

Cheers

[kenchar]

Selections for tomorrow.

Randwick R2 no2---R3 no3---R4 no5---R6 no5---R7 no7---R8 no9.

Caulfield R6 no1

Doomben R5 no7---R6 no2---R7 no4.

Murray Bridge R5 no2---R6 no5.

There is also 2 bets in Murray Bridge R2 no's 2+13, but if I was betting it's a race I would leave alone.

Cheers

[Sportz]

S5, Wicked Wizard I had it marked in the sportsman but for some reason didn't transfer it to the sheet I made going race to race.
outside barrier---top zip---7 days, paid $7.2.

A3, Thirsk was from barrier 2 but Sweedan was scratched so Thirsk then had the inside barrier and became a bet. paid 5.9.


Hey, sounds like you're using rules that I'd like. Everybody probably knows how much I love the inside and outside barriers and I also love backing horses who last ran 7 days ago. I wonder could you possibly email me those rules and I've got a system for Saturday racing that you might be able to make some use of. :)

sportznut 67 at hotmail dot com

[jose]

Yo kenchar, ta for the system rules.
I just grabbed an old copy of Sportsman for Sat 27th March 04 and applied the rules.
There was 21 bets for 8 winners and 11 placgetters.
The return for the win was $42.90 and the place return was $20.10.
It threw up GENIUS AND EVIL at R'hill paying $19.20 the win and UTZON paying $6.30 the win (QLD tote).
It may throw up the odd good priced winnerfrom the look of it, so I shall see if I can dig up a few other old formguides and see how it stands up.

[marcus25]

[QUOTE=kenchar]Selections for tomorrow.

Hi Kenchar!

Randwick
R2 2 Sunrise Song
R3 3 Men At Work
R4 3 Shavet
R6 2 Restless Wind
R7 8 Square One
R8 1 Catechism
--------------
Caulfield
R6 1 Hardy Steele
-----------------
Doomben
R53 Nessuno
R6 2 Natale
R7 1 Show Biz Kid
-------------------
Murray Bridge
R2 2 La Sammana - 13 Miss Kay Jay
R5 1 Tanami Prince
R6 6 Lotto Rock

Good luck

[kenchar]

I see you are on line, check your email, you will see the reason for the delay.

Cheers

[Sportz]

Thanks.

[kenchar]

Selections for tomorrow.

Randwick R2 no2---R3 no3---R4 no5---R6 no5---R7 no7---R8 no9.

Caulfield R6 no1

Doomben R5 no7---R6 no2---R7 no4.

Murray Bridge R5 no2---R6 no5.

There is also 2 bets in Murray Bridge R2 no's 2+13, but if I was betting it's a race I would leave alone.

Cheers

2 more bets

Doomben R3 no2

Murry Bridge R1 no3.

[Chrome Prince]

Hi kenchar,

If you email me the rules, I might be able to run it through my database if someone can explain how zipform rating is worked out?

racestats at hotmail dot com

[Sportz]

Chrome, I'm pretty sure the only way to get the Zipform rating is to get the Sportsman.

[kenchar]

CP,
I think Sportz is right, and that's why I haven't been pestering you to run it through your data base.
I will send them anyhow as it's worth having a look.

Cheers

[captain charger]

Kenchar,I haven't been doing too well on the punt so like the others I would appreciate the rules also,might help an old pensioner to be happy,cheers.My address is:aburford@bigpond.net.au

[kenchar]

ME square on the day.

YOU minus 3.5

Calculated on no of bets after scratchings.

I'm still reasonably satisfied, as with my style of betting I would have stopped at B5 approx 6 points up.
Same as last SAT 3.7 up early then went down then up to 6 up and finished the day 4 up.
I would have been having a drink at 3.7

Cheers

[geoffro]

hey there kenchar,
very interesting to see you doing "form"
geeze. hehehehehe
I haven't been in here for a while and decided to do a search on your name as am always interested in your point of view.
Could you send me the rules to your system please.
gcdennis at netcentral dot com dot au
thanks heaps.
Geoffro