Lays Of the Day Contest

[La Mer]

As has been mentioned in another theme, there appears to be some interest in having a lays of the day contest, so happy to run one, if that's Ok.

Starting this Saturday 5th Feb, the rules are:

Lays Of The Day Contest
Two races each Saturday nominating between one and three horses in each race that won’t win.

Points awarded according to Official Starting Price based on betting to return $100 (100 points)

If that's Ok, start it this week, nominating one race in Melbourne (which will be the Lightning Stakes) and one in Sydney (which will be the Clissold Stakes).

[Real Deal]

how does the points work? the shorter the horse the better the lay?

[La Mer]

how does the points work? the shorter the horse the better the lay?

Yes, that's right - laying a horse that SP's @ $3 and loses would score 33 points, while laying one @ $10 would score 10 points etc, so the bold score the most points, of course they also increase the risk of the horse winning which would mean they would end up losing points.

[Duritz]

Good on you La Mer for running it. I'll be in.

[Real Deal]

count me in! you said points are lost for a win? what are the penalties for 2nd and 3rd and how long is this comp going to go for?

[La Mer]

count me in! you said points are lost for a win? what are the penalties for 2nd and 3rd and how long is this comp going to go for?

Just run on horses winning or losing @ this stage, so no penalties for 2nd or 3rd placegetters as that could all get a little confusing, so we will try & make it as simple as possible.

Points lost for a win will be 100 less the stake, so in the example I gave before of a horse @ $3 the points lost would be 67 (100-33) and in the the case of of a horse @ $10 the points lost would be 90 (100-10).

Hope that makes sense, but comes down to risk v. return - you can risk less by nominating a horse @ $10 but lose more should it win, in a similar manner as how the bookies operate.

[Mr Selby]

yeah sounds good. im in

[Chuck]

Great idea - i'm up for it!

[Mark]

What better way to get us all tipping winners !!!

[brave chief]

I don't like the idea of nominating races. Just list your 2 lays for the day, no matter what the race. Must be the metrop races however.

[La Mer]

I don't like the idea of nominating races. Just list your 2 lays for the day, no matter what the race. Must be the metrop races however.

Problem with that is that you could get twenty or more races nominated and I only have so much time to go chasing up prices, but your welcome to run it if you want to take the task on.

[Sportz]

And also you wouldn't get the contest between people to create interest. It just wouldn't be as interesting if everybody picked different races.

I might give it a go. As I said, I'm not really into saying that such and such a horse CAN'T win. Normally too busy trying to work out what ones CAN.

[Shaun]

you guys are missing the point of laying a horse....you can't pick a race and say i will lay this horse.....you need to find the horse that every one is picking and say i don't think it has a hope in hell of winning and laying that one......just let evyone pick one horse to lay and use that points system that sounds like it will work...that way you won't have people picking 100/1 shorts they will try to find the shortest crap horse they can.

[La Mer]

you guys are missing the point of laying a horse.......that way you won't have people picking 100/1 shorts they will try to find the shortest crap horse they can.

No point being missed at all Shaun ... if someone picks a horse @ 100/1 they will only score one point if the horse loses, OTOH if someone picks a horse @ Evens & it loses they will score 50 points - it's all about risk v. return.

[Shaun]

La Mer

i agreed on the points system it is a good idea....but you can't select a race to lay a horse in you need to select the horse to lay.

[Heavyweight]

Thanks for taking this on, La Mer.

To encourage people to take a risk (more fun), maybe we should draw the line at $5.00 SP, ie if your nomination loses at greater than $5.00 you get no points anyway. I guess the trouble with that idea is that when the world finds out that a panel as astute as this one is "knocking" a particular conveyance, that conveyance is going to blow like Vesuvius and start at $20.00 (imagine one of those smiley faces here; haven't got up to them yet!)

If we could compromise on the selection of races, maybe we should limit selections to any race within one or two nominated meetings. If I were running it (glad I'm not-too lazy), I would only be interested in checking results on the Melbourne, Sydney and Perth Saturday meetings. And that's because my Sunday paper only gives full SPs for those meetings.

Anyway, you're running the show so you make the rules. Whatever you decide, I'll play.

Cheers,

H.

[La Mer]

Thanks for taking this on, La Mer.
If we could compromise on the selection of races, maybe we should limit selections to any race within one or two nominated meetings. If I were running it (glad I'm not-too lazy), I would only be interested in checking results on the Melbourne, Sydney and Perth Saturday meetings. And that's because my Sunday paper only gives full SPs for those meetings.

Anyway, you're running the show so you make the rules. Whatever you decide, I'll play. Cheers,

Appreciate your comments H (as I do the other comments). but I think the way Sportz (and Dr. Ron) are running Ratings Challenge comp is the way to go, as that way everyone is comparing like with like and we are comparing performances in direct relationship to one another (plus it makes it that much easier to monitor).

[brave chief]

You'll just be laying the same horses. There will only be 2 or maybe 3 horses tops available to "lay" in each race.

[Sportz]

La Mer,

Here's a compromise option perhaps you could think about.

Pick out the best TWO races in Sydney and Melbourne each week and people then have to pick out a 'lay' in just two of those 4 races. That way, people will get a little more choice, but we'll still basically be concentrating on the same races. That means we'll still have some conflicting opinions which is good. And also not a mountain of work for you. :)

[La Mer]

La Mer,

Here's a compromise option perhaps you could think about.

Pick out the best TWO races in Sydney and Melbourne each week and people then have to pick out a 'lay' in just two of those 4 races. That way, people will get a little more choice, but we'll still basically be concentrating on the same races. That means we'll still have some conflicting opinions which is good. And also not a mountain of work for you. :)

Yep, sounds Ok, I can handle that - will nominate the races later today - some doubt that they will be racing at Flemington on Saturday - according to the track manager at Flemington they are looking at running the meeting on Sunday or next Tuesday. If its Sunday, then I'll nominate two races, if not then I'll look for alternatives - hopefully a decision will be made sometime today as to what they are going to be doing

[xptdriver]

Gday All,

I think I may stay out of this one... The idea of having nominated races to pick a lay in is rather farcical... The idea of laying is to pick a loser that all others think can win... thats where ya score.. having a race nominated really is not suitable to that kind of thing.. On this thread somewhere, a contributor has said to pick the best 2 races at Sydney and Melbourne ( Ithink).. What criteria do you use to pick the best race... To my way of thinking the "best" race is one where the winner is not obvious... where the class is solid.. so if the winner is not obvious, that to my mind makes it a very poor and probaly a foolish option to lay a horse in that race.. far too risky.. I feel the best lay propositons are things running around at 2/1 ON to Evens, that really should be 2 or 3 to 1. You need to be pretty good at pricing horses to abe able to confidently( In Advance) identify the races where there is a shortie running around that is going to be overbet, and frankly you have no clue as to whether the horse is unders and worth laying until you have the market in front of you.. to see what people are prepared to take..

But it's your idea fellas... good luck with it..

[Sportz]

Geez, the very rules of this comp are providing probably more interest and discussion than the comp itself will.

Anyway, I do sort of agree with what xpt, brave chief and Shaun have said, but letting people pick ANY race on a given Saturday would mean a heck of a lot more work for the person running the show. Perhaps you could simply keep it to just one meeting each week??? Up to you La Mer.

[Sportz]

By the way, they've just announced that they're going to inspect the Flemington track at lunch time tommorrow and if they have to call it off, they will race on Tuesday instead.

[La Mer]

Geez, the very rules of this comp are providing probably more interest and discussion than the comp itself will.

Anyway, I do sort of agree with what xpt, brave chief and Shaun have said, but letting people pick ANY race on a given Saturday would mean a heck of a lot more work for the person running the show. Perhaps you could simply keep it to just one meeting each week??? Up to you La Mer.

I agree about the level of discussion Sportz - some very different thoughts eh?

Well, in an attempt to satisfy, if not all, most I think that your compromise idea is fine, that is one nominated meeting a week from which any TWO races with UP TO THREE lay horses can be selected.

I will post the consolidated rules later on today, but at this stage will probably nominate the Sydney meeting as the one to start off the contest.

Thanks for everyone's thoughts.

[La Mer]

I will post the consolidated rules later on today, but at this stage will probably nominate the Sydney meeting as the one to start off the contest.

Lays Of the Day Contest - Consolidated Rules

Starting this Saturday 5th Feb, the rules are:

Lays Of The Day Contest
Any TWO races each Saturday from nominated meeting, selecting (laying) between ONE & THREE horses in each race that won’t win.

Selections for both races must be lodged at least 30mins prior to the first race in which selections are made. This means that if someone makes selections in races 7 & 8 and race 7 is on @ 4.30pm, then selections must be lodged by 4pm. (Note: This additional rule required so that it's a level playing field for everyone)

Points awarded according to Official Starting Price (as per examples earlier in this thread)

This weeks nominated meeting is Rosehill.

[Mr ed]

Rc 7 No. 1 Desert War, lay the lot.

[Sportz]

It's a scratching.

A pity because I also thought it was a good 'lay' bet for that race.

[Duritz]

My two LAYS are

Syd R7 Cool Front
Syd R8 Leg Irons


And COOL TRENT IN MELBOURNE!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chuck]

6-1 Vanquished
5-1 Flying Pegasus

[maverick1993]

Alinghi
Not a Single Doubt

[Duritz]

I thought we could only choose horses at Rosehill this week? If not, I'd pick Melbourne too, what's the go? Me confused.

[Mr Selby]

yeah its only the rosehill meeting. one question. if you do pick three runners in the one race you get more points if none win right??

[La Mer]

Alinghi
Not a Single Doubt

Rosehill races only, not Flemington

[La Mer]

yeah its only the rosehill meeting. one question. if you do pick three runners in the one race you get more points if none win right??

Rosehill race ONLY - Correct, if you pick three horses in the one race and they all get beaten you score more points

[La Mer]

I thought we could only choose horses at Rosehill this week? If not, I'd pick Melbourne too, what's the go? Me confused.

I know you only meant it as a follow-up from your prediction last week, but you sort of started this by nominating Cool Trent in Melbourne, so you confused yourself Duritz :-) but it is ONLY Rosehill races for consideration.

[Duritz]

LOL yes, you'd be surprised how often I can do that.

Duritz
(aka Homer Simpson)

[La Mer]

Just a reminder to those interested that the Lays of the Day contest starts today.

Any two races @ Rosehill, with between one & three 'lays' in each of those races.

Best of luck.

[brave chief]

Just to get this clear:

If you lay a 6/4 shot and it loses you get 40 points, right? If it happens to win, do you lose 100 points as well?

[La Mer]

Just to get this clear:

If you lay a 6/4 shot and it loses you get 40 points, right? If it happens to win, do you lose 100 points as well?

No, if the horse wins you would lose 60 points.

[La Mer]

Race 3:
Ilongga Magic
Chasseresse
Evelina

Race 6
Salgado

[Racer]

SR5 ~~ No.1 ~Flying Pegasus

SR8 ~~ No.5 ~Dial Tones

[brave chief]

gotcha La Mer

R1/5 Cross Bar
R7/4 Patezza

Cross Bar is a legitimate chance, i just have Cincinatti Gal on top; so its just under the odds in my book.

Patezza is likely to be < 2/1 i'm guessing. One of those chronical backmarkers who always needs luck. No speed in that race either.

[Mr Selby]

R2 - 2 count luskin, 5 red hot pepper.

R3 - 11 Long stem red, 9 dane shakira.

[TESTAROSSA]

R3 (2) PALATIAL

R8 (5) DIAL TONES

[Mark]

SR1 1 Cincinnati Girl
3 Double Dare
5 Cross Bar

SR5 1 Flying Pegasus
2 Domesday
6 Pasikatera

[QuickFunBet]

Rosehill Race 8 No 5 Dial Tones

[Heavyweight]

Race 7 Patezza

Race 8 Dial Tones

[QuickFunBet]

Rosehill Race 8 No 5 Dial Tones

Race 7 No 2 Inspire

[La Mer]

Ladder after Round 1 in the Lays Of The Day Contest:

Mr Selby $79.50
Chuck $68.00
Heavyweight $42.00
Racer $35.00
TESTAROSSA $27.00
Quick Fun Bet $14.50
Brave Chief -$18.00
Mark -$20.00
La Mer -$50.50
Duritz -$63.50

Well done to those that managed to find a few successful 'lays' but as can be seen some of us (myself included) picked some horses that won - in fact in race 3, I managed the Quinella which paid $124 in my three picks - a real good effort on my behalf - I think not.

[Mark]

Don't be deterred La Mer, it's harder to pick losers than everybody thinks. Having said that, there are some really good scores there.

Unfortunately for me, my 3 "real" lays for the day were not at Rosehill.

[Duritz]

Oh well, at least Cool Trent got beat.

[La Mer]

Lays Of the Day Contest

This week’s nominated meeting is Caulfield.

For those interested, it’s still not too late to join this little contest.

Ladder after Round 1.

Mr Selby $79.50
Chuck $68.00
Heavyweight $42.00
Racer $35.00
TESTAROSSA $27.00
Quick Fun Bet $14.50
Brave Chief -$18.00
Mark -$20.00
La Mer -$50.50
Duritz -$63.50

Rules
Any TWO races each Saturday from nominated meeting, selecting (laying) between ONE & THREE horses in each race that won’t win.

Selections for both races must be lodged at least 30mins prior to the first race in which selections are made. This means that if someone makes selections in races 7 & 8 and race 7 is on @ 4.30pm, then selections must be lodged by 4pm

Points awarded according to Official Starting Price (as per examples earlier in this thread)

[Heavyweight]

MR1: Cool Trent
MR6: Regal Roller

Good luck all.

[Duritz]

Cool Trent, Elvstroem

Regal Roller is a certainty. Whoever wants to lay it does so at their peril.

[QuickFunBet]

Race 6 No 1 Infinite Grace

Race 7 No 4 Blessum
Race 7 No 12 Sensational Spot

Thanks,
QFB

[Chuck]

Regal Roller is a certainty. Whoever wants to lay it does so at their peril.

Got to agree with you there...

LAYS
Race 2: 1,10,11
Race 7: 5,18,13

[La Mer]

Lays Of the Day Contest

This week’s nominated meeting is Caulfield.

For those interested, it’s still not too late to join this little contest.

Rules
Any TWO races each Saturday from nominated meeting, selecting (laying) between ONE & THREE horses in each race that won’t win.

Selections for both races must be lodged at least 30mins prior to the first race in which selections are made. This means that if someone makes selections in races 7 & 8 and race 7 is on @ 4.30pm, then selections must be lodged by 4pm

Points awarded according to Official Starting Price (as per examples earlier in this thread)

Just a reminder for those interested, it's not too late to have a go in this contest.

[MartinFriedman]

Friedman Family Lays of the Day 12 Feb Caulfield

Martin:
R5 - Regal Roller
R6 - Cosmic Beam
R7 - Strikeline

Carol:
R5 - 14 Not A Single Doubt
R6 - 15 Uprize
R7 - 17 Foreplay

Zev:
R5 - 15 Danehill Express
R6 - 11 Kalamata
R7 - 14 Tahni Girl

[La Mer]

Friedman Family Lays of the Day 12 Feb Caulfield

Martin:
R5 - Regal Roller
R6 - Cosmic Beam
R7 - Strikeline

Carol:
R5 - 14 Not A Single Doubt
R6 - 15 Uprize
R7 - 17 Foreplay

Zev:
R5 - 15 Danehill Express
R6 - 11 Kalamata
R7 - 14 Tahni Girl

Martin ... Thanks for entering, however you can only nominate TWO races from the meeting, so failing advice to the contrary, I will take the two lowest priced horses from each member of your family as their selections.

[La Mer]

Race 3: Queen Of The Hill
Race 5: Savabeel

[brave chief]

R1: Kounthekash
R5: Not A Single Doubt

[Mr Selby]

R3:1-red hot mama, 3-Queen of the hill, 7- moon fever.

R6:1- infinite grace, 2- skewiff, 6- joy of flight.

[Racer]

R2 ~ No.1 ~ Brad's Luck
No.10 ~ Test Fire
No.12 ~ Amelino


R5 ~ No.5 ~ Regal Roll.
No.6 ~ Nat. Blitz
N0.10 ~ Pretorius

[nulla]

MR2 NO1 Bradbury's Luck
MR5 NO1 Elvstroem
Don't understand it yet but I'll have a go, could be a new of picking winners

[Mark]

MR1 1 Cool Trent
4 Kane Smytzer
7 Kounthekash

MR5 1 Elvstroem
5 Regal Roller
15 Danehill Express

[TESTAROSSA]

R3

(3) QUEEN OF THE HILL
(5) TESTA REALE

R4

(2) TIRADE
(6) PROCESSOR
(14) TALONS SHOW

Cheers.

[Sportz]

Hmmm, I was thinking of having a go this week with Queen Of The Hill and Langness, but I thought I'd just end up looking really silly. :)

[feather]

WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GO

R7
STAMEN
HARLEY MA

R8
LADY OF DESERT
WORLD PEACE

[La Mer]

Ladder after week 2:

Name Return
Mr Selby $153.00
Chuck $124.00
TESTAROSSA $98.00
Racer $93.00
Heavyweight $92.50
Martin Friedman $60.00
Feather $53.50
Quick Fun Bet $40.50
Zev Friedman $32.00
La Mer -$6.00
Brave Chief -$49.50
Nulla -$57.00
Carol Friedman -$64.50
Mark -$72.00
Duritz -$116.00

Well done to the leaders and to those that avoided tipping a winner today.

[Sportz]

Well done to the leaders and to those that avoided tipping a winner today.

Hmmm, interesting way of putting it. There are many races where I avoid tipping the winner. Don't think it's such a great thing personally. ;)

[Duritz]

My God I am going horribly in this comp

[Mark]

LOL, you certainly are Duritz. The only one worse than me !

[Racer]

Mark,Sportz or any of the lads here,

Can you give me the drum on how one includes an icon\s in a post please - as in how can you put them wherever you want, after mouse dotting whichever one\s you want to use ?

TIA,

Regards.

[Mark]

Racer, can't help you with moving them around, but they are just below the text box.













See, just down here.

[La Mer]

This week's meeting is Warwick Farm.

Still not too late to join in - the rules can be found earlier in this thread.

Ladder after week 2:
Name Return
Mr Selby $153.00
Chuck $124.00
TESTAROSSA $98.00
Racer $93.00
Heavyweight $92.50
Martin Friedman $60.00
Feather $53.50
Quick Fun Bet $40.50
Zev Friedman $32.00
La Mer -$6.00
Brave Chief -$49.50
Nulla -$57.00
Carol Friedman -$64.50
Mark -$72.00
Duritz -$116.00

[QuickFunBet]

Race 4
1. Set Up
9. Mikan

Race 9
2. For Valour
7. Count Luskin
10. Pekalan

Thanks,
QFB

[Chuck]

1-2 Lord of Lords
1-6 Belhari
1-7 Caught at Dawn

9-2 For Valour
9-9 Bit of Knowledge
9-11 Penny Opera

[La Mer]

Warwick Farm:
Race 6
Hugs Dancer
Our Egyptian

Race 8
Perfect Promise

[Racer]

Warwick Farm

R1 ~ No.2 ~ Lord Of Lords

R5 ~ No.2 ~ Lotteria

[Mr Selby]

R4- 5.court of appeal, 8. rock cafe, 10. grandview.

R8- 3. Hec of a Party, 10. Zin Zin, 15. Danni Martine.

[feather]

R5
TREZEVANT
JOHAN'S TOY

R6
HUGS DANCER
OUR EGYPTIAN RAINE
WINNING BELLE

[TESTAROSSA]

R4

(2) KEEPING THE FAITH
(7) BUT I'M SERIOUS
(8) ROCK CAFE

R5

(1) CRIMSON REIGN
(2) LOTTERIA

Cheers.

[Mark]

R5

5 Tivoli Dancer
8 Johan's Toy

R6

4 Court's In Session
5 Seul Amour
6 Our Egyptian Raine

[Heavyweight]

Sydney Race 5: Lotteria
Sydney Race 8: Imana

Cheers,

H.

[nulla]

MR8 NO3 Taken
NO5 Niagra Falls
SR8 NO8 Imana

[MartinFriedman]

..
Friedman Family Lays of the Day Sat 19 Feb
.
Martin:
Syd R7 - #5 Binding
Syd R8 - #8 Imana
.
Carol:
Melb R7 - #2 Carlton Spirit
Melb R8 - #1 Beautiful Gem
.
Zev:
Syd R7 - #11 Utzon
Melb R9 - #7 Watchyerback
...

[La Mer]

Ladder after Week 3:

Name Return
Mr Selby $154.00
Martin Friedman $93.50
Feather $90.50
Chuck $84.50
Zev Friedman $53.00
Heavyweight $49.50
La Mer $18.00
TESTAROSSA $2.00
Nulla -$7.50
Mark -$10.00
Quick Fun Bet -$15.50
Racer -$36.00
Brave Chief -$49.50
Carol Friedman -$113.00
Duritz -$116.00

Well done to Mr Selby who despite picking a winner still managed to show a small profit on the day and retains the overall lead. Well done to Martin F as well who has moved up into 2nd position.

Overall a number of winners selected yesterday with the result that a few people have dropped down the ladder while others have moved up.

[Duritz]

And I forgot to put my tips in.

[La Mer]

Ladder after Week 3:

Name Return
Mr Selby $154.00
Martin Friedman $93.50
Feather $90.50
Chuck $84.50
Zev Friedman $53.00
Heavyweight $49.50
La Mer $18.00
TESTAROSSA $2.00
Nulla -$7.50
Mark -$10.00
Quick Fun Bet -$15.50
Racer -$36.00
Brave Chief -$49.50
Carol Friedman -$113.00
Duritz -$116.00

This week's meeting is Caulfield.

[Chuck]

1-6 Palio Archway
9-12 Crystal Sprite

[Mr Selby]

R1 - N4-My Gibreel, N6-Palio Archway, N7-Hassle.


R2- N1-Talons Shown, N5-Hairpin, N3-Lady of the Desert.

[Racer]

R4 ~ No.1 ~ Elvstroem

R6 ~ No.1 ~ Fastnet Rock

[brave chief]

Elvstroem
Fastnet Rock

I'm with Racer

[La Mer]

Caulfield
Race 4 Natural Blitz
Race 4 Makybe Diva
Race 4 Casual Pass
Race 6 Taikun
Race 6 Lilando
Race 6 Foreplay

[nulla]

MR6 NO1 Fastnet Rock
MR8 NO3 Not a Single Doubt

[Mark]

R2 4 Delicate Snip
R4 6 Makybe Diva

[Heavyweight]

Race 3: Stratton Place
Race 7: Opportunity

Cheers,

H.

Could be some big moves on the rankings depending on how Elvstroem and Fastnet Rock go. This is getting interesting.

[QuickFunBet]

Race 4 No 6 Makybe Diva

Race 6 No 1 Fastnet Rock

Cheers,
QFB

[TESTAROSSA]

R4

(1) ELVSTROEM.
(3) NATURAL BLITZ.
(4) CASUAL PASS.

R5

(2) INFINITE GRACE.
(3) SENSATIONAL SPOT.
(12) LYRICAL BID.

[feather]

R6
FASTNET ROCK
FOREPLAY

R8
DANEHILL EXPRESS
ECONSUL

[MartinFriedman]

..
Friedman Family Lays of the Day Sat 26 Feb
.
Martin:
Melb R8 - #3 Not A Single Doubt
Syd R7 - #3 Winning Belle
.
Carol:
Syd R4 - #3 Shannon Bank
Syd R5 - #1 Star Cat
.
Zev:
Melb R7 - #12 Opportunity
Syd R6 - #2 Eremein
...

[La Mer]

Ladder after week 4 of the Lay of the Day Contest:

Name Return
Mr Selby $238.50
Chuck $123.00
La Mer $112.50
Zev Friedman $101.50
Martin Friedman $99.50
Heavyweight $91.50
Feather $59.50
Nulla -$29.50
Mark -$46.50
Quick Fun Bet -$58.00
Carol Friedman -$60.50
TESTAROSSA -$74.00
Duritz -$116.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

A fair degree of movement as a number of people decided to take on either or both Elvstroem & Fastnet Rock, which proved a costly tactic on the day. Well done to Mr. Selby who scored again today & now has a nice lead.

[Heavyweight]

And well done to you La Mer; I think you might have done best on the day.

Cheers,
H.

[La Mer]

This weeks meeting is Caulfield.

[Chuck]

7-15 Raid the Royals
7-4 Recapitalize
7-13 Propreitor

2-2 Hillfa

[QuickFunBet]

Race 2 No.3 Duelled
Race 2 No.5 Ready To Mombo

Race 6 No.2 Regal Roller
Race 6 No.6 Sky Cuddle

Thanks,
QFB

[La Mer]

Race 6:
Super Elegant
Great Is Great
Lieutenant

Race 7:
Bomber Bill
Grey Song
Regent Street

[Heavyweight]

Race2: Hillfa
Race6: Regal Roller

Cheers,

H.

[feather]

race 4
zankel
tristo
pure silence

race 5
speedy king
niagara falls
roman arch

[Mr Selby]

R1- n7-kats clause, n11-show us your legs, n12-miss ab fab

R6-n5-great is great, n7-savabeel, n4-modem.

[SIRPENT]

R1 BELLE FELINE
R7 GREAT IS GREAT

[TESTAROSSA]

R3:

(1) BALLET SOCIETY,
(2) TRULY WICKED,
(5) TWISTED HEART.

R7:

(4) RECAPITALIZE,
(8) FEEL THE NOISE,
(15) RAID THE ROYALS.

Cheers.

[MartinFriedman]

..
Friedman Family Lays of the Day Sat 5 March 2005
.
Martin:
Melb R6 - #2 Regal Roller
Syd R7 - #4 Lotteria
.
Carol:
Syd R8 - #9 Dance Hero
Melb R8 - #5 Noble Red
.
Zev:
Melb R5 - #2 Lad Of The Manor
Melb R7 - #15 Raid The Royals
...

[Mark]

Is it Caulfield only???

MR4 1 Zankel
MR4 5 Volitant

MR6 1 Super Elegant
MR6 2 Regal Roller

[nulla]

MR6 NO7 Savabeel
MR7 NO15 Raid the Royals

[La Mer]

The update of this week's ladder follows. It wasn't a good day for the layers as eleven contestants managed to pick winners. Mr. Selby still leads.

Name Return
Mr Selby $212.00
La Mer $175.00
Chuck $93.00
Martin Friedman $63.50
Zev Friedman $63.00
Heavyweight $54.00
Sirpent $25.50
Feather $22.50
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Quick Fun Bet -$84.50
Carol Friedman -$96.50
Duritz -$116.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50
TestaRossa -$178.50

[La Mer]

The update of this week's ladder follows. It wasn't a good day for the layers as eleven contestants managed to pick winners. Mr. Selby still leads.

Name Return
Mr Selby $212.00
La Mer $175.00
Chuck $93.00
Martin Friedman $63.50
Zev Friedman $63.00
Heavyweight $54.00
Sirpent $25.50
Feather $22.50
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Quick Fun Bet -$84.50
Carol Friedman -$96.50
Duritz -$116.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50
TestaRossa -$178.50

This week's meeting is Flemington

[La Mer]

Flemington
Race 6
Danbird
Foreplay
Not A Single Doubt
Race7
Casual Pass
Lad of The Manor
Winning Belle

[QuickFunBet]

Flemington Race 6
1. Fastnet Rock
9. Not A Single Doubt

Flemington Race 8
1. Savabeel

Cheers,
QFB

[Duritz]

Well the last two weeks I have had lays lined up and FORGOTTEN to post EACH TIME!!!! SO, this week I am getting in early:

LAY:

Melbourne

Alinghi
Elvstroem


I would say to lay Nevis in Syd, but I need to lay shorties to get back in this one.

[Chuck]

HOw long does this go for?

7-1 Elvstroem

3-1 Jadescent

[Mr Selby]

r2- n1 noble red, n2 big pat, n8 pattie royale


r8- n1 savabeel, n2-econsul, n5-lieutenant.

[SIRPENT]

R4 NO 10 PINK FIT
R5 NO2 SKEWIFF

[Goldcoaster]

R1-1
R2-1

[TESTAROSSA]

R6 (1) FASTNET ROCK, (7) FOREPLAY, (9) NOT A SINGLE DOUBT.

R7 (1) ELVSTROEM, (3) CASUAL PASS, (6) WINNING BELLE.

[feather]

r4
stratton place
our smoking joe
r1
gallant guru
tarzi
escape artist

[Heavyweight]

Race 7: Elvstroem

Race 8: Savabeel

Cheers,

H.

[MartinFriedman]

..
Friedman Family Lays of the Day Sat 12 March 2005
.
Martin:
Melb R6 - #3 Alinghi
Melb R7 - #1 Elvstroem
.
Carol:
Syd R7 - #4 Cheval De Troy
Syd R9 - #6 Radetzky March
.
Zev:
Syd R6 - #2 Don Raphael
Melb R8 - #1 Savabeel
...

[La Mer]

HOw long does this go for?

7-1 Elvstroem

3-1 Jadescent

To the end of the Sydney autumn carnival.

[La Mer]

A better day for most this week, with Mr. Selby increasing his lead and stays well in front - update of this week's ladder:

Name Return
Mr Selby $298.50
La Mer $224.00
Chuck $202.50
Heavyweight $113.00
Zev Friedman $106.00
Goldcoaster $72.50
Martin Friedman $45.50
Feather -$4.50
Quick Fun Bet -$11.00
Carol Friedman -$16.50
Sirpent -$40.00
TestaRossa -$57.50
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Duritz -$134.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

[La Mer]

A better day for most this week, with Mr. Selby increasing his lead and stays well in front - update of this week's ladder:

Name Return
Mr Selby $298.50
La Mer $224.00
Chuck $202.50
Heavyweight $113.00
Zev Friedman $106.00
Goldcoaster $72.50
Martin Friedman $45.50
Feather -$4.50
Quick Fun Bet -$11.00
Carol Friedman -$16.50
Sirpent -$40.00
TestaRossa -$57.50
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Duritz -$134.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

This week's meeting is Rosehill

[MartinFriedman]

..
AUSTRALIAN HORSERACING (Sydney & Melbourne)
.
Tips for Saturday 19 March 2005, for the Friedman Family Outsiders.
.
***** CAROL & I ARE STILL OVERSEAS (Slovakia), BUT THIS TIME WE HAVE "BUCKLEY'S" OF DOING THE SELECTIONS, SO WE'LL GIVE YOU ALL A BREAK FOR THIS WEEK, AND SEEYA NEXT WEEK! *****
.
Cheers,
Martin
...

[Chuck]

SR-2: 4,6,8
SR-6: 1,3,4

[QuickFunBet]

Rosehill Race 6
1. Regal Roller
10. Shinzig

Rosehill Race 8
11. Tui Song
15. Shania Dane
16. Johan's Toy

Cheers,
QFB

[Heavyweight]

Race 4: Lotteria
Race 6: Desert War

Cheers,

H.

[SIRPENT]

R3 KING JOHNNY
R5 MAKYBE DIVA

[La Mer]

Lay

Race 5:
Makybe Diva
Vouray
Cheval De Troy

Race 6
Regal Roller
Court's In Session
Shinzig

[Goldcoaster]

R5-8
R6-2

[TESTAROSSA]

R5

(1) GRAND ARMEE
(2) HUGS DANCER
(11) CHEVAL DE TROY

R6

(1) REGAL ROLLER
(3) FALKIRK
(10) SHINZIG

[Mr Selby]

r4 n2-lotteria, n3-dizelle, n4-just a tad


r5 n1-grand armee, n9-vouvray, n11-cheval de troy

[feather]

R4
DIZELLE
NEVIS

R9
OSCA WARRIOR
SIR DEX
NIPS

[La Mer]

Congrats to Mr. Selby who has kicked away from the rest & will be hard to catch in the Lay of the Day Contest.

The ladder after Slipper day is as follows:

Name Return
Mr Selby $423.50
Heavyweight $187.00
La Mer $132.00
Chuck $125.00
Zev Friedman $106.00
Goldcoaster $55.50
Martin Friedman $45.50
Quick Fun Bet $36.00
TestaRossa $30.00
Carol Friedman -$16.50
Feather -$33.00
Sirpent -$71.00
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Duritz -$134.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

[Heavyweight]

I mentioned to my wife that I was taking part in a contest where the aim was to pick losers. She predicted that I would do very well. She passes on her sympathies to Mrs Selby.

Cheers,

H.

[La Mer]

This week's meetings are:

Saturday - Randwick
Monday - Randwick

This contest will conclude on the following Saturday 3rd April.

Best of luck to all and a happy Easter.

[Chuck]

1 - 1,5,8
6 - 4,12,11

[feather]

R4
ONLY WORDS
CRIMSON REIGN

R6
OUTBACK PRINCE
STELLA GRANDE
KING JOHNY

[topsy99]

would FAVA qualifity for life membership fo this thread.
race 9 oakbank number 4.
looks past the post . is this the end of a 3 year drought.
or can will we nominate him for life membership.
only 5.32pm on saturday night can tell us.

[QuickFunBet]

Race 4
2. Shamekha
3. Only Words
6. Crimson Reign

Race 6
4. Xcellent
8. King Johny
11. Railings

Thanks,
QFB

[MartinFriedman]

..
Friedman Family Lays of the Day Sat 26 March 2005
.
Martin:
Syd R4 - #5 Alinghi
Syd R6 - #4 Xcellent
.
Carol:
Syd R5 - #1 Stratum
Syd R7 - #9 Wild Queen
.
Zev:
Syd R8 - #3 Jovial
Syd R9 - #1 Ponte Piccoli
...

[smidgin]

SR7 no9 Wild Queen
SR9 no1 Ponte Piccolo

[Heavyweight]

Race 1: Paratroopers
Race 8: Jovial

Cheers,

H.

[Mr Selby]

R5 - n3 rhine, n9 mnemosyne, n12 flora danica

r6 - n3 jymcarew, n8 king johnny, n12 high cee

[SIRPENT]

R2 NO6 BUSH HONEY
R5 NO9 MNEMOSYNE

[Goldcoaster]

R5-1,9
R6- 4,2

[La Mer]

Race 4:
Fastnet Rock
Shameka
Only Words
Race 6
Outback Prince
Jymcarew
Xcellent

[TESTAROSSA]

R3

(1) MUMMIFY
(2) COUNTY TYRONE
(6) PHILISOPHE

R6

(4) XCELLENT
(5) STELLA GRANDE
(12) HIGH CEE

Cheers.

[La Mer]

The ladder after Easter Saturday and it finds Mr. Selby going along nicely in front but with one or two others such as the Heavyweight and Chuck giving chase. Don't forget we go again on Easter Monday.

Name Return
Mr Selby $464.50
Heavyweight $273.50
Chuck $234.50
Zev Friedman $154.00
La Mer $144.50
Martin Friedman $131.50
Carol Friedman $43.00
Smidgin $37.00
Goldcoaster $28.00
TestaRossa $26.00
Feather $22.00
Quick Fun Bet $3.00
Sirpent -$44.00
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Duritz -$134.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

[Goldcoaster]

SR1-1
SR2-2

[La Mer]

Race 6:
Toulouse Lautrec
Modem
Sky Cuddle
Race 8:
Ankaret
Vionneto
Swick

[Heavyweight]

Race 2: Lutalo
Race 5: Fire at Will

Cheers,
H.

[Mr Selby]

R3 - n2 grandly, n9 repetiteur


r4 - n1 cool front, n5 academe, n10 spirit of tara

[feather]

r7
seul amour
jeremiad
r8
ankaret
shinzig

[TESTAROSSA]

R5

(1) PRECISE TIMING
(2) DIAMOND SUN
(3) FIRE AT WILL

R6

(1) JEREMIAD
(3) SEUL AMOUR
(9) DANZARBER

Cheers.

[QuickFunBet]

Race 5
7. Pekalan
12. Sri Khan

Race 8
5. Vionneto
9. Kiss My Fuji

Cheers,
QFB

[Chuck]

forgot this was on today...no logic behind these!

8- 4,7,8
9- 3,12,13

[La Mer]

With just one round to go in the Lay Of The Day contest, Mr. Selby has a nice lead and the wheels would have to fall off for him not to win. But it ain't over till it's over and the fat lady sings.

After Easter Monday, the ladder is:
Name Return
Mr Selby $549.00
Heavyweight $330.50
La Mer $208.50
Chuck $203.50
Zev Friedman $154.00
Martin Friedman $131.50
Carol Friedman $43.00
Smidgin $37.00
TestaRossa $21.00
Goldcoaster -$2.50
Feather -$4.50
Sirpent -$44.00
Quick Fun Bet -$72.50
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Duritz -$134.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

[Mr Selby]

I have been known to choke before so id probably get on my lays next week. :)

[La Mer]

With just one round to go in the Lay Of The Day contest, Mr. Selby has a nice lead and the wheels would have to fall off for him not to win. But it ain't over till it's over and the fat lady sings.

Tomorrow is the last day of the current contest and the meeting for consideration is Randwick.

If there is enough interest, will run another one but under slightly different criteria, whereby the pre-post favourites in six races will be nominated and contestants will have to nominate the three that they will think will lose.

Feedback appreciated.

[Chuck]

4- 1,2,12
7- 1,2,10

Laying Eremein and Grand Armee could be suicide, but i've got nothing to lose!

[QuickFunBet]

Race 6 All Aged Stakes
1. Regal Roller

Race 7 Queen Elizabeth Stakes
3. Toulouse Lautrec
4. Mummify
11. Savabeel

Cheers,
QFB

[feather]

R4
HIGH CEE
SPECIAL VOYAGE

R9
SIR DEX
RIVER TO THE SEA

[Goldcoaster]

R4-1
R7-1

[MartinFriedman]

..
Friedman Family Lays of the Day Sat 2 April 2005
.
Martin:
Syd R4 - #1 Eremin
Syd R6 - #1 Grand Armee
.
Carol:
Syd R5 - #8 Fashions Afield
Syd R6 - #7 Only Words
.
Zev:
Syd R8 - #5 Mahtoum
Syd R9 - #8 FourOfAKind
...

[Heavyweight]

Race 2: Happier
Race 3: Force Apollo

Cheers,

H.

Thanks for the comp La Mer; very enjoyable

[Mr Selby]

race 3 - n3 force apollo,


race 6 - n1 regal roller

[La Mer]

Race 6
Regal Roller
Falkirk
SpecialHarmony
Race 7:
Desert War
Toulouse Lautrec
Savabeel

[La Mer]

Congratulations to Mr. Selby who was the clear winner of the Lay Of The Day Contest.

In all ten contestants made positive returns, which was not a bed result really.

The final ladder is:

Name Return
Mr Selby $594.00
Heavyweight $281.50
La Mer $276.00
Chuck $163.50
Martin Friedman $122.50
Carol Friedman $107.00
Zev Friedman $103.00
Smidgin $37.00
Feather $28.50
TestaRossa $21.00
Goldcoaster -$13.00
Quick Fun Bet -$29.00
Sirpent -$44.00
Mark -$73.00
Nulla -$82.50
Duritz -$134.00
Racer -$139.00
Brave Chief -$152.50

Thanks to all who participated.