Football Punters Comp 2005

[Sportz]

Welcome to the Football Punters Comp thread. Please feel free to join in.

The comp will run from Thursday, February 17 to Sunday October 2. The cutoff point to begin betting is the 31st of March. Anyone who hasn't made at least one bet before the 1st of April will unfortunately miss out. The bookmakers we will be using are:

<span class="style2"><a href="http://www.iasbetaffiliate.com/e.asp?e=22&amp;id=1085" target="_blank"><b>IAS Bet </b></a></span>

<a href="http://partners.sportingbet.com.au/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_4b_149" target="_blank"><b>Sportingbet Australia </b></a></span>

sportodds.com

You can use any of the bet types they offer on AFL, League or Union matches.

I'm sure there will be some things in the rules that not everyone agrees with. I'm sorry about that. Can't please everyone.

RULES
Starting bank: $500
Number Of Bets: Minimum of 50, Maximum of 200
Bet Sizes: $10, $20, $30, $40 or $50
Mult-bets: Maximum of 5 legs
No 'futures' betting allowed

A quick explanation. Everyone has a starting bank of $500. Obviously the object of the game is to build on that $500 so that you end up with the highest amount in the bank on Oct2. Everyone must make at least 50 bets during the comp to qualify and nobody is allowed to make more than 200 bets. To keep things as simple as possible, I've decided we can only use bet sizes of $10, $20, $30, $40 and $50. Also to keep things simple, I've put a limit of 5 legs on the multi-bets. Some may be disappointed with that, but 5 legs will still allow you to go for a good return without things getting out of hand. There is no 'futures' betting in this comp (unfortunately for me). By that I mean you can't place a bet now on who will win the Brownlow or the Premiership etc etc. You can only bet on events that are happening within the next 7 days.

Of course, it goes without saying that you must post your selections before the starting time of the match and certainly no editing of posts after starting time. When posting your selections, please set them out very clearly so everyone knows exactly what the bet is. Please state your opening balance, bet number, match, bet type, your selection, bet size, latest odds, possible winning amount and closing balance. Something like this:

Opening Balance $500
Bet number 1
St George vs Souths
St George to win
$40 @ $1.45 ($58.00)
Closing balance $460

I will keep a record and post an updated leaderboard after each weekend. Even so, could everyone try to make absolutely sure that you don't make any mistakes with your adding up etc.

Good luck! :)

[Sportz]

Week one

NRL Charity Shield
Saturday, 19 February
St George Illawarra Vs South Sydney 8:00pm

AFL Wizard Cup
Friday, 18 February
Collingwood v Richmond Telstra Dome 7:40pm
Fremantle v West Coast Subiaco 7:40pm
Saturday, 19 February
Western Bulldogs v Sydney Telstra Dome (Double-Header) 2:40pm
Hawthorn v St Kilda Telstra Dome (Double-Header) 6:10pm
Brisbane v Melbourne Cazaly Stadium 7:40pm
Sunday, 20 February
Kangaroos v Geelong Manuka Oval 2:40pm
Carlton v Essendon Telstra Dome 5:10pm
Adelaide v Port Adelaide AAMI Stadium 7:10pm

[Sportz]

Current odds for the Charity Shield:
St George Illawarra $1.45
South Sydney $2.60

Odds not up yet on the Wizard Cup.

[Sportz]

First head to head prices out for tomorrow night's AFL games:

Collingwood $1.90
Richmond $1.80

Fremantle $2.00
West Coast $1.75

[rabbitz]

What tab are you using
Can you roll your own starts and use in multis etc
Prices vary from tab to tab
Maybe we either all use the same tab or we stipulate which tab when placing bets.
Also can you cancel before the game if say someone has a late injury etc
Cheers

[Sportz]

Also can you cancel before the game if say someone has a late injury etc
Cheers

How about we use the 30 minute editing cutoff point that is on posts? In other words you get just 30 minutes to edit your post changing or cancelling your bet. Any later than that, bad luck. After all, in the real world, if you put a bet on on Friday and one of the top players gets injured just before the game on Sunday, you can't cancel your bet can you?

[Sportz]

What tab are you using
Can you roll your own starts and use in multis etc
Prices vary from tab to tab
Maybe we either all use the same tab or we stipulate which tab when placing bets.


Rabbitz, these are the bookies you can use: Sportingbet Australia, IAS bet, Sportodds
Yes, you can use any of the bet types they offer on AFL, League or Union.
Yes, you can have Multis, but there is a limit of 5 legs in your multis.
Yes, in your posts, please tell us which bookie you used for each bet.

[thebookie]

I'll have $50 HH on all of WBD, STK, Carl and Melb
and
$25 HH on all of Freo, Kang and Adel

[Sportz]

Bookie,

I'm sorry, but did you read the introductory post with all the rules? :o

Don't you want to check out the odds on the three sites and pick out the best odds for your selections? If I had to check out the odds for everybody's tips, it would be an enormous amount of work for me, so the idea is for you to check out the 3 bookies, find the best odds and post your selections here with those odds. Unfortunately, prices are only up on tonight's 2 games, so you can't bet on the other 6 games yet. If you can't come back on here later to post your bets in those other 6 games, then perhaps you can give them a miss this week. Also, you can only use the following bet sizes: $10, $20, $30, $40 & $50, so I'm sorry, no $25 bet please.

Here's an example of how I'd like you to set your posts out:

Opening Balance: $500
Bet 1: Head to Head (IAS)
Fremantle $30 @ $1.80 ($54.00)
Closing Balance: $470



We're not off to a good start. :(

[thebookie]

Sorry champ.

Can I make the $25's now $30?

And can I use the odds from Norm Short? He's up on all games. Or TAB Sportsbet?

[Sportz]

No, I'm very sorry. We're using just the 3 bookies - Sportingbet, IAS and Sportodds. Hopefully at least one of them should have their odds up on all games by tonight. Can you come back on over the weekend to post selections?

[Sportz]

So Bookie, can I put you down for this bet then?

Bet 1: Head to Head (IAS)
Fremantle $30 @ $1.80 ($54.00)
Closing Balance: $470

After that, the rest is up to you. Sportodds has prices up on a few more games now.

[moeee]

I will keep a record and post an updated leaderboard after each weekend. Even so, could everyone try to make absolutely sure that you don't make any mistakes with your adding up etc.

Good luck! :)

Sportz!

Would you like me to keep my eye out for irregularities?
Perhaps I could keep a backup record of a leaderboard!

[moeee]

We're not off to a good start. :(

Come on Sportz!
Be a sport.Let me hold your hand.I'm sure this thread will be the thread of all time.
Yes I think that if people wish to enter the comp. they need to follow the rules.I'm sure there are lots of punters out there who will monitor proceedings and use the tips placed as guidelines in their real punting.
So lets put a bit of effort in our selections boys!

[moeee]

Sportodds has prices up on a few more games now.

I think we should endorse the prices of the Forum operators advertised supporters only.(IAS,Sportingbet).
Not that Norm Short is bad.It makes it much easier for Sportznut,and helps the Ozmium group in their endeavours.
But for Multi bets,then Sportodds prices being the chosen ones.
Only because they offer the pick-your-own margins.

[thebookie]

OK

I want all those selections and I will put the prices up as they come. But, I definitely want all those picks. Cool?

[Sportz]

Yes Mo, after working it all out with someone from the forum, I think the 3 bookies we've chosen should cover all the betting opportunities we need.

[Sportz]

I want all those selections and I will put the prices up as they come. But, I definitely want all those picks. Cool?

Yep. Sure thing. :)

But could you please possibly try to set out your bets as I did in the Fremantle example about 6 posts ago?

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance $500
ST George Win $1.52(sportodds)
X
Collingwood $2.00(sportodds)
$3.04 X $50= $152.00
Closing Balance $450.00

[Sportz]

Well done Rabbitz. That's the way to do it. Now all they have to do is win. :)

[thebookie]

Opening Bal $470

HH (Sportodds)
Bets
$50 WBD @ $1.62 Return $81
$50 STK @ $1.16 Return $58
$50 Melb @ $1.45 Return $72.50

Closing Bal $320

Carl, Kang and Adel to come

[Sportz]

Yeah, that's how you do it. Thanks. :)

[Sportz]

By the way guys, make sure you keep track of the number of bets you make. Remember, a minimum of 50 and a maximum of 200 for the comp.

[Sportz]

Opening balance $500

Bet 1 Multi (sportodds)
points: Collingwood +39.5 ($1.15)
points: Fremantle +39.5 ($1.12)
dozen: St George +12.5 ($1.12)
win: St Kilda ($1.16)
$30 @ $1.67 ($50.10)

Closing balance $470

[Chuck]

Opening Balance $500
Bet number 1
MULTI:
- Demons to WIN - $1.48
- Hawks to WIN - $5.00
$10 @ $7.40 ($74.00)
Closing balance $490

[Sportz]

That's with IAS Chuck. Please try to mention which bookie's odds you used. :)

[Floydyboy]

Lions...2.80
Eagles..2.12
Swans..2.35
Total...................13.94 x 20 units or dollars

spodds

[Mofo]

Opening balance $500

Bet 1 (sportodds)
win: West Coast Eagles $10@$2.12 ($21.20)

Closing balance $490

[bl4dez]

Opening balance $500
(sportodds)
swan @ $2.30
X
Brisbane @ $2.89
$50 @ $6.647 = $332.35

closing balance $450

like this?

[moeee]

Opening balance $500

Bet 1 (sportodds)
win: West Coast Eagles $10@$2.12 ($21.20)

Closing balance $490

Just testing the temperature of the water are we Mofo?
Or do you normally bet so conservatively?

[Sportz]

like this?

Yep. :)

[Sportz]

Just testing the temperature of the water are we Mofo?
Or do you normally bet so conservatively?

Never know. Could be a good tactic Mo. He might be the only one left with any money after a couple of months. ;)

[Mofo]

Opening balance $490

Bet 1 (sportodds)
win: West Coast Eagles $10@$2.12 ($21.20) WIN!!!

Closing balance $511.20

Just testing the temperature of the water are we Mofo?
Or do you normally bet so conservatively?

A little from column a) and a little from column b).

[Sportz]

Well done Mofo. Good start.

[moeee]

Opening Balance $500

Bet 1
Head to Head
Brisbane $20 @ $2.80 ($56)

Bet Number 2
Double
St.Kilda $1.16
Brisbane $2.80
$20 @ $3.25 ($65)

Bet Number 3
Multi
Bulldogs $1.55
St.Kilda $1.16
Brisbane $2.80
$20 @ $5 ($100)

Closing Balance $440

[moeee]

Opening Balance $440

Bet No 4
Double
Brisbane +18.5 ($1.90)
St.Kilda -33.5 ($1.90)
$30 @ $3.60 ($108)

Closing Balance $410

[thebookie]

Opening Bal $320

HH (Sportodds)
Bets
$30 Carl @ $1.80 Return $54
$30 Kang @ $2.30 Return $69
$30 Adel @ $2.20 Return $66

Closing Bal $230

[QuickFunBet]

Opening Balance: $500.00
Bet No 1 Sydney (Line +21.5) @ 1.90 X $10.00
Bet No 2 Hawthorn (Line +33.5) @ 1.90 X $20.00
Bet No 3 Brisbane (Line +18.5) @ 1.90 X $20.00
All with Sportodds
Total: $50.00
Closing Balance: $450.00

Thanks,
QFB

[moeee]

Opening Bal $320

HH (Sportodds)
Bets
$30 Carl @ $1.80 Return $54
$30 Kang @ $2.30 Return $69
$30 Adel @ $2.20 Return $66

Closing Bal $230

What odds TheBookie doesn't make it to the real football!

[Sportz]

Yeah, I'm going to take it really cautious for a start. I just went for a multi with what I thought were 'safe' results.... Collingwood and Fremantle with 39.5 points start, St Kilda to win and St George with 12.5 points start. Got the first 3 legs up although St Kilda worried me for a while, but it looks like St George are going to let me down. They're down by 18 with 8 minutes left!!! :(

Should have just backed Melbourne to beat Brisbane. Was pretty confident that would happen, but didn't have the guts to back my judgement.

[Sportz]

Yep. St George are sacked.

[bl4dez]

opening balance $450
(sportodds)
multi -
bombers 1.90
cats 1.57
50 x $2.98 = $149

cosing balace $400

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 1 (SportingBet)

Opening Balance: $500.00

Multi Bet:


Kangaroos $2.30 Vs Geelong
x
Carlton $1.80 Vs Essendon
x
Adelaide Vs Port Adelaide $1.57


Return: $6.50 x Bet: $20.00 = $130.00

Closing Balance: $480.00

[Chuck]

Opening Balance $490
Bet number 2
MULTI:
- Cats to WIN - $1.57
- Bombers to WIN - $1.95
$20 @ $3.0615 ($61.23)
Closing balance $480

Opening Balance $480
Bet number 3
Cats to WIN - $1.57
$30 @ $1.57 ($47.10)
Closing balance $450

Both from Sportodds.com

[Sportz]

$20 @ $3.0615 ($61.23)


When working out multis for this comp, please just go to 2 decimal places. That way, your dividend will always end up with a nice round figure. In this case $20 @ $3.06 ($61.20)

[rabbitz]

Opening balance $450.00
bet no.2
Port adelaide V adelaide
Port -14.5 ($2.10) X $50.00=$105.00( SPORTODDS)
Closing Balance $400
I thought St George would win but maybe Souths have got a bit more ticker this year.I know you can't read too much into trial games but it will give them confidence.On the other side of the coin the lions lost,no suprises there
no voss,akermanis,brown ,black.I cant believe so many took the $2.80 on offer
Cheers,from an unbiased LIONS fan

[Sportz]

Opening Balance $490
Bet number 2
$20
Closing balance $480

Opening Balance $480
Bet number 3
$30
Closing balance $450


Ummm, sorry Chuck, but $490-$20 is $470. So your closing balance is actually $440 now :)

[Chuck]

oops...hope i don't make anymore mistakes in this comp! Lucky i've got you around, hey sportz!

[Sportz]

You're right mate. This comp goes for 33 weeks, so hopefully we'll all have it worked out be that stage. That's if any of us still have any money left by then.

[moeee]

Opening Balance $410

Bet 1
Head to Head
Adelaide $30 @ $2.50 ($75)

Closing Balance $380

[knowledge]

Opening Balance: $500
Carlton vs. Essendon
$20 - Carlton 1-39 ($2.20) = $44
Closing balance: $480

[moeee]

Ummm, sorry Chuck, but $490-$20 is $470. So your closing balance is actually $440 now :)

Can't pull the wool over this blokes eyes!

[moeee]

Closing Balance $380

What odds Moeee doesn't make it to the real football?

[Sportz]

Don't worry Mo. You'll fight back.

Certainly don't like to criticise anyone else after my ridiculous bet, but why did you go so heavily on Brisbane? They just don't take the Wizard Cup seriously at all and I would never have considered backing them. Unfortunately, I didn't have the guts to bet against them either. Really thought Melbourne were pretty good things, but didn't back it up with either real or play money.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 1 (SportingBet)

Opening Balance: $500.00

Multi Bet:


Kangaroos $2.30 Vs Geelong WON
x
Carlton $1.80 Vs Essendon WON
x
Adelaide Vs Port Adelaide $1.57


Return: $6.50 x Bet: $20.00 = $130.00

Closing Balance: $480.00

Kangaroos are home, Carlton are home over the Bombers. Come on home Port Adelaide !!!! :)

[Sportz]

What odds TheBookie doesn't make it to the real football!

He's started pretty damn well. 5 wins from his first 6 bets! Well done to theBookie.

[Jack Daniels]

Port up by 19 at half time. God I am glad the footy is back in play. :D

Not home yet but still going strong!

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 1 (SportingBet)

Opening Balance: $500.00

Multi Bet:


Kangaroos $2.30 Vs Geelong WON
x
Carlton $1.80 Vs Essendon WON
x
Adelaide Vs Port Adelaide $1.57 WON


Return: $6.50 x Bet: $20.00 = $130.00

Closing Balance: $480.00

NEW CLOSING BALANCE = $610.00

Now thats the start I was after!! :D

[rabbitz]

Well bang the drum port won by 15
I took -14.5 so I get in by1/2 a point
New balance $505.00(the boys on fire,after only one weekend)
Cheers

[Sportz]

Here's the leaderboard after week 1. Number of bets in brackets

$610.00 Jack Daniels (1)
$564.50 TheBookie (7)
$524.00 knowledge (1)
$511.20 Mofo (1)
$507.00 QuickFunBet (3)
$505.00 rabbitz (2)
$480.00 Floydyboy (1)
$470.00 Sportz (1)
$440.00 Chuck (3)
$400.00 bl4dez (2)
$380.00 moeee (5)

Well done on the multi Jack.

[thebookie]

Bahh I demand a recount!!! HAHAHA

This is fun! Good idea Sportz :)

[moeee]

Certainly don't like to criticise anyone else after my ridiculous bet, but why did you go so heavily on Brisbane? They just don't take the Wizard Cup seriously at all and I would never have considered backing them.

Might be wrong,but I was sure Brisbane played in the Grand Final last year!
Didn't consider they would prefer to lose the Wizard game.
Obviously it was the Troy Broadbridge benefit game.

[Jack Daniels]

Here's the leaderboard after week 1. Number of bets in brackets

$610.00 Jack Daniels (1)
$564.50 TheBookie (7)
$524.00 knowledge (1)
$511.20 Mofo (1)
$507.00 QuickFunBet (3)
$505.00 rabbitz (2)
$480.00 Floydyboy (1)
$470.00 Sportz (1)
$440.00 Chuck (3)
$400.00 bl4dez (2)
$380.00 moeee (5)

Well done on the multi Jack.

Bring on week 2. :)

[Sportz]

Week two

AFL Wizard Cup Quarter finals
Times are EDST
Friday:
St Kilda v Western Bulldogs @ York Park - 7:40
Saturday:
Kangaroos v Port Adelaide @ Telstra Dome - 7:40
West Coast v Collingwood @ Marrara - 9:40 (8:10 Darwin time)
Sunday:
Melbourne v Carlton @ Telstra Dome - 6:10

RUGBY Super12 Rd1
Times are EDST
Friday:
Highlanders (NZ) v Blues (NZ) @ Carisbrook, Dunedin 5:35
NSW Waratahs v Chiefs (NZ) @ Aussie Stadium, Sydney 7:40
Saturday:
Stormers (SA) v Sharks (SA) @ Newlands, Cape Town 3:10am
Brumbies v Crusaders (NZ) @ Canberra Stadium, Canberra 7:00
Reds v Hurricanes (NZ) @ Ballymore, Brisbane 9:05 (8:05 Brisbane time)
Cats (SA) v Bulls (SA) @ Ellis Park Doornfontein 12:00 (Midnight)

New players please check the rules in the initial post of the thread. You can start posting bets whenever prices are put up by any of the three bookmakers. Good luck.

[moeee]

Bring on week 2. :)

Just goes to show.
We all need to smarten up.
You never know who's eyes are watching our every move.
Keep this up Jack Daniels and I might ride your tips home!
WELL DONE.

[Chuck]

OB $440
Bet 4
Sportodds
MULTI
Blues +12.5 $1.07
Reds +12.5 $1.19
Bulls Win $1.42

$40 @ $1.81 = $72.40

CB $400

[Searay]

Blues 13+

NSW 13+
Sharks 1-12
Crusaders 1-12 (9)
Reds 13+
bULLS 13+

St Kilda 1-24
Kangaroos 1-24
West Coast 25+
Carlton 1-24
REMEMBER - Think first before saying nothing.

[Sportz]

Searay,

Ummm, it appears you don't know what we're doing here or else you've simply got mixed up with the tipping comp threads. Could you go back to the first post on the thread please and read the rules.

[moeee]

REMEMBER - Think first before saying nothing.

What more can I say!

[Mr J]

ok I'm in...

I don't like the 200 max bets rule or the fixed bet amounts but I'll deal ;)

[rabbitz]

BET NO 3
OPENING BALANCE $505.00
Super 12's
BLUESv Highlanders (Blues -6.5=$1.90)
X
NSW WARATAHS v Chiefs (Nsw Waratahs WIN $1.30)
X
QLD REDS v Hurricanes (Qld Reds WIN $1.85)
X
ACT BRUMBIES v Crusaders (ACT Brumbies WIN $1.50)

ALL UP
DIVIDEND $6.85 X $50
= $342.50
CHEERS BOYS

[Sportz]

You don't muck around, do you Rabbitz? Going straight for the big dividend like that.

Meanwhile, I'm simply trying to work out a nice 'safe' way of getting back into the black. :o

[Sportz]

Opening Balance $470
Bet 2
Multi (IAS)
S12: NSW ($1.30)
S12: Stormers ($1.40)
S12: ACT ($1.57)
$10 @ $2.86 ($28.60)

Bet 3
Multi (sportodds)
AFL: St Kilda ($1.22)
S12: NSW ($1.30)
S12: Stormers +12.5 start ($1.06)
S12: ACT +12.5 start (+1.09)
$20 @ $1.83 ($36.60)
Closing balance $440

[rabbitz]

You don't muck around, do you Rabbitz? Going straight for the big dividend like that.

Yeah well Sportz old mate I would have added St Kilda to that one but the prices werent up this morning so it could have been $8.35 with the divi $1.22 on top.I dont think its that outrageous with the only game concerning me is the reds.Cheers

Meanwhile, I'm simply trying to work out a nice 'safe' way of getting back into the black. :ogo boy

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance $455.00
Bet no 4
Blues +7.5
Stormers +7.5
ACT Brumbies +7.5
Bulls +7.5
Allup
Div $1.83 X $50.00 (sportodds)= $91.50
New Balance $405.00

[Mr J]

Opening balance: $500

Bet 1: $30 on Highlanders +6.5
Bet 2: $30 on NSW -10.5
Bet 3: $30 on Sharks +8
Bet 4: $30 on Brumbies -4.5
Bet 5: $30 on Cats +6.

All bets are at $1.90 and will profit $27 if they win.

Bet 6 will be $30 on the Reds, but the line isn't up yet so I'll have to wait on that one.

Closing balance $350.

[Sportz]

Mr J, I assume they were with IAS. They may not put up a line on the Reds game if it's a line ball game. In that case, why not simply look at the 3 bookmakers to find the best price for the Reds to win. I think you should get fairly close to the $1.90 mark. Alternatively, Sportodds has the Reds (-1.5) at $1.95.

[Mr J]

Yes they were at IAS.

Opening balance $350.

Bet 6: Reds -1.5 at $1.95 at IAS.

Closing balance $320.

These bets are exactly the same as I bet for real (diff stakes), so if these go south or go well, you know how my real situation is.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 2 (SportingBet.com.au)

Opening Balance: $610.00

Multi Bet:


Highlanders Vs Blues >12.5 $2.65
x
Warratahs <12.5 $3.25 Vs Chiefs
x
Stormers <12.5 $3.05 Vs Sharks


Return: $26.27 x Bet: $10.00 = $262.70

Closing Balance: $600.00

[Chuck]

forgive me if i'm wrong, but i'm guessing you meant Blues <12.5 $2.65, not >12.5

[Sportz]

No. He's right. It's $2.65 for Blues over 12.5 at Sportingbet.

[Jack Daniels]

No. He's right. It's $2.65 for Blues over 12.5 at Sportingbet.

Yeah I thought it was too good to be true too. I will be having a go at those odds myself.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 3 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $600.00

Multi Bet:


Highlanders Vs Blues $1.42
x
Warratahs $1.30 Vs Chiefs
x
Brumbies $1.52 Vs Crusaders
x
Reds +12.5 $1.21 Vs Hurricanes
x
Cats +12.5 $1.47 Vs Bulls


Return: $4.99 x Bet: $30.00 = $149.70

Closing Balance: $570.00

[thebookie]

Bet 6 (Sportodds)

Opening Balance: $564.50

HH
Kang $50 @ $2.25

Closing Balance: $514.50

[bl4dez]

opening bal : $400
sportodds
PORT ADEL 1.70
x
WEST COAST 1.40

2.3 x 50 = 119

closing bal: 350

=[

[goldmember]

opening balance : $500

bet 1
multi - sportstab
1st Aust dismissal - caught fieldsman [$1.85]
tri - bet port/kang either team under 15.5 pts {$3.30]

$20 @ $6.10 = $122

closing balance $480

[goldmember]

sorry , should just be the footy bet,

$20 @ $3.30 = $66

[Sportz]

Goldmember, great to see you back. :)

But can you go back to the initial post for the rules please? I'm sorry, but I can't accept that bet because we're only using the following 3 bookmakers:

Sportingbet
IAS
Sportodds

[knowledge]

$50 - Even scoreline in WCE-Collingwood @ 1.90 = $95

[knowledge]

$50 - Even scoreline in WCE-Collingwood @ 1.90 = $95

did I say EVEN scoreline? i meant ODD. :D

LOL just kidding.

subtract $50 from my balance. :)

[Sportz]

I'm sorry, but I can't accept that bet

Saved you some money there Goldmember. :)

[Sportz]

Leaderboard so far:

$627.00 TheBookie
$570.00 Jack Daniels
$511.20 Mofo
$507.00 QuickFunBet
$496.50 rabbitz
$491.00 Mr J
$480.00 Floydyboy
$474.00 knowledge
$468.60 Sportz
$400.00 Chuck
$380.00 moeee
$350.00 bl4dez

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 4 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $570.00


Melbourne 1-39 $2.30 Vs Carlton


Return: $2.30 x Bet: $50.00 = $115.00

Closing Balance: $520.00

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance $496.50
Bet 5
Melbourne demons -18.5 V Carlton(Sport odds)
$2.10 X $50=$105
Closing balance $446.50

[Sportz]

After week 2:

$627.00 TheBookie (8)
$520.00 Jack Daniels (4)
$511.20 Mofo (1)
$507.00 QuickFunBet (3)
$491.00 Mr J (6)
$480.00 Floydyboy (1)
$474.00 knowledge (2)
$468.60 Sportz (3)
$446.50 rabbitz (5)
$400.00 Chuck (4)
$380.00 moeee (5)
$350.00 bl4dez (3)

[rabbitz]

Well I m glad I listened to others on this forum about how the demons were going to smash the blues.the reds let me down in my bid for multi glory so they are definitely on the banned list,i think the blues and crusaders are GOOD things this week.I will wait for season proper for Afl although the Lions will belt essendon(cant bet on practice matches can we) at carrara on sat night.since you are online now and reading this sportz,how about having a $30 exotic in the horse tipping comp,i.e. quinella,exacta,first four instead of only a trifecta
cheers

[Sportz]

Rabbitz,

Too many problems would arise I think. I was actually planning on cutting out the trifecta and all-up altogether and just going back to straight forward Win and Each Way betting. Not quite so exciting but a lot easier for all.

As for the Reds, I wasn't confident about them at all. They had every chance of winning that game, but just didn't know how and why the hell wasn't Flatley kicking for them??? I reckon they'll probably be on zero points after 4 rounds.

[Mr J]

"They had every chance of winning that game"

Big plays, but when it came to recycling the ball...

Hurricanes just destroyed them at the breakdowns. Reds will find it very tough this year.

[Sportz]

Week three:

Times are EDST

AFL Wizard Cup Semi finals
Fri 8:40 PM West Coast vs Kangaroos (Subiaco)
Sat 7:40 PM Carlton vs West. Bulldogs (T.Dome)

RUGBY S12 Rd 2
Fri 5:35 PM Blues v Reds
Fri 7:40 PM Brumbies v Bulls
Sat 3:30 PM Highlanders v Stormers
Sat 5:35 PM Crusaders v Chiefs
Sun 2:00 AM Sharks v Waratahs
Sun 4:10 AM Cats v Hurricanes

You can start posting bets as soon as any of the 3 bookies put up prices. Remember, new players, please read the rules in the opening post of this thread.

[moeee]

$50 - Even scoreline in WCE-Collingwood @ 1.90 = $95

What needs to happen here to get a collect?

[moeee]

I wish Goldmember came back.
I'm sure no one laughed just because you got confused regarding the rules.
I've only got $380 left.
Hate to be out of the comp and then you start betting.
You were lots of fun last year!

[Sportz]

What needs to happen here to get a collect?

Mo, I have to say it is one of the silliest bets you can even think of taking. It's basically a lottery. You just add up both teams' final scores and if it's an even number you win. How dumb is that?

[Sportz]

I wish Goldmember came back.
I'm sure no one laughed just because you got confused regarding the rules.
I've only got $380 left.
Hate to be out of the comp and then you start betting.
You were lots of fun last year!

Yeah Goldmember, please join in with our comp. You have till the end of March to have your first bet.

[Sportz]

Opening balance $468.60

Bet 4
Multi (sportodds)
S12: Blues to win ($1.15)
S12: Brumbies to win ($1.10)
S12: Crusaders to win ($1.16)
$30 @ $1.47 ($44.00)

Closing balance $438.60

[Mr J]

Did anyone else notice I moved up a place because I didn't bet? Maybe I just sit here, wait for you all to bust then put in anothe 44 bets. Easy win ;)

[Sportz]

Yeah, I shouldn't have touched anything until the real stuff started (S12, AFL, NRL) The reason I'm this far behind is because of including silly pre-season games which I never think of betting on with real money.

[Chuck]

seems like a good safe be there sportz!
OB $400
Bet 5: Hurricanes -3.5 - $20*$2.05 = $41
Bet 6: Sharks +2.5 - $10*$1.90 = $19
Bet 7: MULTI: Blues -15.5 - $1.90, Brumbies -16.5 - $1.90, Crusaders -14.5 - $1.90 = $10*$6.86 = $68.60

[moeee]

Mo, I have to say it is one of the silliest bets you can even think of taking. It's basically a lottery. You just add up both teams' final scores and if it's an even number you win. How dumb is that?

Thanks Sportz.
Don't know about dumb.
From what you've been saying,you in fact have made a number of silly bets so far.
But I can't see how you decide to take one or the other.
Either way you take unders!

[Sportz]

Exactly. That's what I meant. It's like taking $1.90 on the toss of a coin.

[Chuck]

sorry, forgot to add: CB $360

not last anymroe Mo!

[moeee]

sorry, forgot to add: CB $360

not last anymroe Mo!

Thanks for the boost Chuck,but you're not counted.
You are a horse racing person and I consider myself as a AFL person.
I have noticed your success in many ventures on the horse forum.

[Mofo]

Opening balance $511.20

Bets (sportodds)
2) Chiefs to win $10 @ $5.00 ($50.00)
3) Chiefs +14.5 $30 @ $1.90 ($57.00)
4) Multi
Blues to win ($1.15)
Brumbies to win ($1.11)
Stormers to win ($1.72)
Waratahs to win ($1.72)
$20 @ $3.78 ($75.53)


Closing balance $461.20

[Sportz]

Hmmm, you guys are starting to make me a bit nervous about the Crusaders.

[Sportz]

Opening balance $438.60

Bet 5
Multi (sportodds)
S12: Blues by 13+ ($1.58)
S12: Brumbies to win ($1.11)
$20 @ $1.75 ($35.00)

Closing balance $418.60

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 5 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $520.00

Multi Bet:


Blues 13+ $1.58 Vs Reds
x
Brumbies 13+ $1.62 Vs Bulls
x
West Coast Eagles $1.30 Vs Kangaroos


Return: $3.33 x Bet: $50.00 = $166.50

Closing Balance: $470.00

[thebookie]

Bet 9? (Sportodds)

Opening Balance: $627

HH
Kang $30 @ $3.30 Return $99

Closing Balance: $597

[kiwi]

Opening Balance $500

Sportodds.com

Line

Blues -16.5 $1.90 ( Bet $100)

Crusaders -14.5 $1.90 (Bet $100)

Closing Balance $300

[Sportz]

Kiwi,

I'm sorry, but the maximum bet you can have is $50. Please go back and read the initial post on this thread to check out the rules.

[kiwi]

Kiwi,

I'm sorry, but the maximum bet you can have is $50. Please go back and read the initial post on this thread to check out the rules.


Opening Balance $500

Sportodds.com

Line

Blues -16.5 $1.90 ( Bet $50)

Crusaders -14.5 $1.90 (Bet $50)

Closing Balance $400

Sorry Sportz.

[Sportz]

That's okay.

What do you think about the Crusaders? I was originally confident about them winning by a good margin, but a couple of people on here seem to give the Chiefs a chance of an upset.

[kiwi]

Hi Sportz,

There wil be a Crusaders backlash after the Brumbies game.They will thrash the Cheifs who are struggling with a string of injuries and a couple of players never arrived for the season's start.

I stand to decimate my TAB account if I"m wrong

[Sportz]

opening balance $418.60

Bet 6
multi (sportodds)
S12: Highlanders (+14.5) ($1.21)
S12: Sharks (+14.5) ($1.21)
S12: Cats (+14.5) ($1.21)
$20 @ $1.77 ($35.40)

Closing Balance $398.60

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance
$446.50
S12 Waratahs -6.5=$2.30
X
S12 Crusaders -13.5=$1.73
X
S12 Brumbies -13.5= $1.73
X
S12 blues -9.5=$1.42
Dividend $9.77 X $50
=$488.75
Closing Balance $396.50
Cheers
Good luck to all.

[goldmember]

Thanks sportz and moeee, its good to be back, had a rough end to last year [ a few very bad storms, a couple of 48hr blackouts, phones down for 4 days 2 deaths and to top it off we were robbed 2 weeks before xmas] so i threw my hands up in the air and had long a break until now and i'm ready for a big season of footy !

This time :

opening balance $500

bet 1
multi
sport odds
[Union] Blues -15.5 [1.81]
Crusaders -9.5 [1.47]

$50 @ $2.66 = $133

closing balance $450

[Sportz]

Geez, things can only get better mate. :)

[goldmember]

Yeah, i sure hope so,i dont normally bet on pre season games or the 1st couple of rounds, but this year i'm going to get stuck into them from round 1 as i'm even MORE confident this year , couldnt back the swans or lions in the wizard cup after looking at the sides they put in, reallistically the should have been at least 10/1 each, i feel for anyone who put their hard yearned on them?

[kiwi]

Good Evening All

An alert for those that are going to support the Highlanders, Kees Meuws and Anton Oliver are both out of the front row.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 6 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $470.00

Multi Bet:


Blues -12.5 $1.59 Vs Reds
x
Brumbies -12.5 $1.66 Vs Bulls
x
Crusaders -12.5 $1.66 Vs Chiefs
x
Sharks Vs Warratahs -8.5 $2.62
x
Cats Vs Hurricanes +5.5 $1.42


Return: $16.30 x Bet: $20.00 = $326.00
Closing Balance: $450.00

[Sportz]

Opening balance $398.60

Bet 7
Multi (sportodds)
S12: Blues to win ($1.13)
S12: Brumbies to win ($1.13)
S12: Crusaders to win ($1.15)
S12: Sharks (+14.5) ($1.21)
S12: Cats (+14.5) ($1.21)
$10 @ $2.15 ($21.50)

Closing balance $388.60

[Mr J]

Opening balance $491.

Bet 7: Reds +16.5
Bet 8: Brumbies -15.5
Bet 9: Chiefs +14.5
Bet 10: Sharks +3
Bet 11: Cats +2.5

All are for $30 and at $1.90 (to win $57)

Bet 12: Highlanders +2.5 at $1.92, $30 to win $57.60

Closing balance $311.

I'm not skipping the more marginal bets since my system still does quite well on them. I intend to bet ALL of my S12/AFL/NRL picks here. That's going to be around 350 or so bets, so the idea is to bet as singles and hopefully build up a balance, so that I can then bet as multis without so much risk.

I notice sportz above me has included the win amount as the total returned. I only included the profit amount. Probally better to include total returned since we're deducting bet amounts from balance, so I changed mine.

[Sportz]

Mr J,

I assumed you'd want to bet on all of the S12 games, but I didn't think you'd want to do the same with NRL & AFL too. By the way, I think if you wanted to bet on every S12, NRL & AFL game, it would actually be closer to 450 bets. I know your method works for you, but the reason why I put a limit of 200 bets on the comp is to make tipsters be a little bit selective, and so that people who don't want to bet on all 3 codes aren't disadvantaged.

[Mr J]

"it would actually be closer to 450 bets."

I don't bet EVERY game ;) The bookies are usually more accurate later on in the season. I was only betting on around 75-80% of games near the end of AFL/NRL last year.

I'd like to be selective, but betting all my picks is the most reliable way to get ahead. If it means I have to bet multis for a large chunk of AFL/NRL then that's what I'll have to do.

I can't be selective because I can't be sure which are my best bets. My tests have shown that the picks perform similiar no matter how large their perceived advantage is. Large overlays don't really perform better because they are way off often enough to offset the accuracy of the other large overlays.

[moeee]

Shit Goldmember!
I get up every morning and nothings changed!
I'm not sure who's better off?

[moeee]

Can't hang out any longer.

I think its Bet 6

Opening Balance $380

West Coast -20.5 @2.10
Carlton $1.50
Multi $20 to collect @ $3.15 ($63)

Closing Balance $360

[Sportz]

Going by the incredible score at the moment in the opening Super12 game of the week, I may end up having an ABSOLUTE SHOCKER!!! Can't believe it. I thought if there was one absolute certainty this week it was the Blues at home to the Reds. :(

Looks like you may have come up trumps there Mr J. I think you're the only one that considered backing the Reds.

[Sportz]

Well, they eventually got out of jail, but a winning margin of three points was about TWENTY short of what I was expecting!!!

So one of my bets is down the gurgler. Well done on getting your line bet up Mr J.

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance $396.50
Bet 6
AFL West coast WIN $1.40
S12 Brumbies -6.5=$1.36
S12 Crusaders -6.5=$1.37
All up $2.61X$50=$130.50
Closing Balance $346.50
P.s. At this rate it could be a short season
Does anyone know a good site to see live scores I was using www.sportal.com.au but the score froze at 34 min mark in 2nd half.

[Sportz]

This one's not a whole lot better. Usually does the job though.

http://www.thescore.com.au/

[Sportz]

I've just had a look and that result has knocked out a lot of people's bets for this weekend.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 7 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $450.00

Multi Bet:


Crusaders -12.5 $1.66 Vs Chiefs
x
Sharks Vs Warratahs -8.5 $2.62
x
Cats Vs Hurricanes +5.5 $1.42


Return: $6.17 x Bet: $50.00 = $308.50
Closing Balance: $400.00

[moeee]

Bet 7 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $450.00


Sharks Vs Warratahs -8.5 $2.62



Just curious as to why not just go straight out on the Waratahs?

[knowledge]

$50 - Carlton @ 1.50

:)

[Sportz]

Ummm, it's preferable if you give a few more details than that. Like what your balance is, what number bet it is, which bookie etc. I will work out your total anyway, but it would be nice if you let other people know as well. :)

[knowledge]

sure no problem. In future I'll give more details.

[Sportz]

After week 3:

$708.50 Jack Daniels (7)
$597.00 TheBookie (9)
$507.00 QuickFunBet (3)
$499.00 knowledge (3)
$495.00 kiwi (2)
$489.00 Mofo (4)
$480.00 Floydyboy (1)
$450.00 goldmember (1)
$432.60 Sportz (7)
$425.60 Mr J (12)
$423.00 moeee (6)
$401.00 Chuck (7)
$350.00 bl4dez (3)
$346.50 rabbitz (7)

Well done Jack on your multi. Looks like you might be on the right track there with your strategy of going for big returns. You've only won 2 out of 7 bets, but you're up over $200.

Personally, I had another shocker. Need to take a good look at what I'm doing.

[Jack Daniels]

Just curious as to why not just go straight out on the Waratahs?

Proof is in the pudding so they say. Warratahs 36 Vs Sharks 13

I thought the Tahs would win by at least that many but wasn't overly confident of them winning by more than 10, seems they did it easier than I had thought.

Go the Tahs!!! :D

[Jack Daniels]

After week 3:

$708.50 Jack Daniels (7)
$597.00 TheBookie (9)
$507.00 QuickFunBet (3)
$499.00 knowledge (3)
$495.00 kiwi (2)
$489.00 Mofo (4)
$480.00 Floydyboy (1)
$450.00 goldmember (1)
$432.60 Sportz (7)
$425.60 Mr J (12)
$423.00 moeee (6)
$401.00 Chuck (7)
$350.00 bl4dez (3)
$346.50 rabbitz (7)

Well done Jack on your multi. Looks like you might be on the right track there with your strategy of going for big returns. You've only won 2 out of 7 bets, but you're up over $200.

Personally, I had another shocker. Need to take a good look at what I'm doing.

Bring on week 4 and the start of the NRL. My favourite sport (go the ROOSTERS). Might take a week or two to get some form on the board though.

[Sportz]

Week four:

All times are EDST

AFL Wizard Cup Grand Final
Mar12 7:40 PM Carlton v West Coast

NRL Rd 1
Mar11 7:30 PM Bulldogs v St George Illawarra
Mar12 5:30 PM Wests Tigers v Parramatta
Mar12 7:30 PM Sharks v Penrith
Mar12 7:30 PM Syd Roosters v Souths
Mar13 12:00 PM NZ Warriors v Manly
Mar13 2:30 PM Melbourne v Newcastle
Mar13 3:00 PM Brisbane v Nth Qld

Rugby S12 Rd 3
Mar11 5:35 PM Highlanders v Bulls
Mar11 7:40 PM Brumbies v Stormers
Mar12 4:10 AM Sharks v Hurricanes
Mar12 2:35 PM Crusaders v Reds
Mar12 5:35 PM Chiefs v Blues
Mar13 2:00 AM Cats v Waratahs

You can start posting tips as soon as any of the 3 bookies put prices up. New players, please check the rules on the opening page of the thread.

Good luck everyone. I know I need it. :o

[rabbitz]

BET 8
Opening Balance $346.50
NRL Bulldogs v St George
Halftime/Fulltime Double
Bulldogs/Bulldogs $1.60
X
S12 Crusaders -6.5=$1.28
X
Highlanders +7.5=$1.36
X
AFL WESTCOAST Win $1.60
DIVIDEND $4.46 X $50=$223.00
Closing Balance $296.50
Fingers and Toes crossed
Cheers
ALL BETS WITH SPORTODDS

[kiwi]

Sportsodds.com

Warriors 13+ @ 2.65 $50 = $130.50


Hurricanes 13+ @ 2.85 $50 = $140.50


Closing balance $395.00

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 8 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $708.50

Multi Bet:


Highlanders +5.5 $1.47 Vs Bulls
x
Brumbies $1.22 Vs Stormers
x
Crusaders -9.5 $1.42 Vs Reds
x
Chiefs Vs Blues -9.5 $1.90
x
Cats Vs Waratahs $1.41


Return: $6.82 x Bet: $40.00 = $272.80
Closing Balance: $668.50

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 9 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $668.50

Multi Bet:


Bulldogs 13+ $2.10 Vs St George
x
Roosters $1.30 Vs Souths
x
Sharks Vs Panthers $1.65
x
Warriors $1.45 Vs Manly
x
Broncos $1.45 Vs Nth QLD


Return: $9.47 x Bet: $40.00 = $378.80

Closing Balance: $628.50

[Sportz]

Opening balance $432.60

Bet 8
Multi (Sportingbet)
S12: Crusaders ($1.13)
S12: Blues ($1.33)
NRL: Bulldogs ($1.26)
NRL: Storm ($1.33)
$20 @ $2.52 ($50.40)

Closing balance $412.60 :o

[Sportz]

Just a note to everyone. Now that all 3 codes are up and running, please try to make it clear which competition and which team you're betting on. After all, there's more than one Brisbane, Sydney & Melbourne and there's more than one Bulldogs, Tigers, Sharks, Cats & Blues etc. Try to do it something like my last post if you could please.

[Mofo]

Opening balance: $489.00

Bet5 sportingbet
S12: Bulls $30 @ $2.07 ($60.21)

Closing balance = $459.00

[Mofo]

Opening balance: $459.00

Bet6 sportingbet
S12: Stormers +10.5 $20 @ $1.90 ($38.00)

Closing balance = $439.00

[goldmember]

Opening Balance $450

Bet 2 Sportodds

NRL H/T margin Bulldogs 7-12 [$5.00]

$20 @ $5.00 = $100.00

0

Bet 3 MULTI Sportodds

NRL 1st half Hcp
Bulldogs -5.5 {$1.90]
Storm -5.5 {$1.90]

$10 @ 3.61 = $36.10

Closing Balance $420.00

[moeee]

Bulldogs 13+ $2.10 Vs St George
x
Roosters $1.30 Vs Souths
x
Sharks Vs Panthers $1.65
x
Warriors $1.45 Vs Manly
x
Broncos $1.45 Vs Nth QLD


Return: $9.47 x Bet: $40.00 = $378.80


Isn't it amazing how such short prices grow into huge odds in a multi?

[moeee]

Opening Balance $423

Bet 7

Carlton straight out $20 @ $2.35 ($47)
spodds

Closing Balace $403

[Sportz]

Oh no. Goldmember's started on his super dooper exotic bets that nobody else ever thinks of. We're in serious trouble now. :D

[rabbitz]

Bet 9
Opening Balance $296.50
NRL Bulldogs -5.5=$1.48
X
AFL West Coast WIN $1.57
Allup $2.32 X $40=$92.80
Closing Balance $250.50
Cheers

[moeee]

Oh no. Goldmember's started on his super dooper exotic bets that nobody else ever thinks of. We're in serious trouble now. :D

Suppose you gotta take his word for it regarding the availability of such a bet.
And also his honesty regarding the outcome of the indecipherable event.
Tell you what though.He done well on them last year,going by what he said.

[goldmember]

Moeee, i dont make up these bets, there at sportodds, under the "more bets" option just like AFL's, most 9 pointers and highest soring quarters ?,i always look at different options on various sports, i Do for one think outside the square .

[goldmember]

Moeee, how boring would it be if a person only bet on H2H, Hcp and margin on 1 sport, it would be like dying a slow death,come to think of it ... like golf !

[Sportz]

Yeah, they're totally legitimate bets Moeee, and Goldmember's very good at picking them. And they're usually much better value than the regular bets.

[goldmember]

Thanks sportz, i usually back what i tip in these comps, the amount might differ, but the way i look at it is, if i was having my last on something what would it be on and then i tip it, and with the better value i get the risk isn't as great, i've bit the dust a few times in the past on H2H multi's with 1 team letting me down and losing a lot lot higher stake,but i will look at every round individually and bet accordingly though.

[Chuck]

Opening Balance $401
Bet 8

Qld vs Crusaders - 1st half margin (thanks GM): Reds +7.5
$20 @ $1.90
=$38.00

Bet 9
Sharks vs Hurricanes - Sharks +12.5
$10 @ $1.90
=$19.00

Bet 10
Sharks vs Hurricanes - Sharks 1-12
$10 @ $3.75
=$37.50

Bet 11
MULTI

Roosters +12.5 - $1.06
x
Panthers/Panthers H/F - $2.35
x
Storm win - $1.33
x
Broncos win - $1.45

$10 * $4.83
=$48.30

All with Sportsodds

Closing Balance $351 (11 Bets)

[rabbitz]

Gosh the Highlanders just fell in 23-0(76 min )
Ye HaH

[rabbitz]

Bet 9
Opening Balance $296.50
NRL Bulldogs -5.5=$1.48
X
AFL West Coast WIN $1.57
Allup $2.32 X $40=$92.80
Closing Balance $250.50
Cheers
Closing Balance should be $256.50

[goldmember]

Opening Balance $420

Bet 4 MULTI Sportodds

S12 Crusaders - 3.5 [$1.18]
NRL Panthers Try [$2.15] 1st scoring play

$20 @$2.53 = $50.60

Closing Balance $400

[TESTAROSSA]

Opening Balance - $500

Bet 1: Sportingbet

MULTI - head to head:

Roosters - $1.33

into

Penrith - $1.60

into

Melbourne Storm - $1.33

$2.83 X $50.00 = $141.50

Closing Balance = $450.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 10 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $628.50

Multi Bet:


AFL - Carlton 1-39 $3.20 Vs West Coast
x
S12 - Chiefs Vs Blues 13+ $2.25
x
NRL - Roosters -11.5 $2.10 Vs Souths


Return: $15.12 x Bet: $20.00 = $302.40

Closing Balance: $608.50

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance
$256.50
BET 10
AFL Westcoast -10.5=$1.90
X
NRL Penrith +4.5 =$1.40
Dividend $2.66X $20=%53.20
Closing Balance $236.50
Cheers

[knowledge]

Opening balance: $499.00
$50 - WCE -10.5 ($1.90) = $95

Closing balance: $440

:)

[Sportz]

Multi (Sportingbet)
S12: Crusaders ($1.13)
S12: Blues ($1.33)
NRL: Bulldogs ($1.26)
NRL: Storm ($1.33)
$20 @ $2.52 ($50.40)


:( Well, I feel like giving up already. Geez, I know the Chiefs were at home, but how could you pick 'em?

[kiwi]

Hi Sportz they had a lot of their injured players back.It says plenty about the Blues ability to go all the way.The AB selectors must be getting worried.
The Chiefs defence was magnificent even one of their props caught a center who was about to score.
It is a topsy-turvy comp at the mo' with no real stadouts.

[Sportz]

I don't know. Perhaps it could be the Crusaders, with Brumbies possibly getting the other final spot if they get their injured players back soon.

[rabbitz]

Opening Balance
$256.50
BET 10
AFL Westcoast -10.5=$1.90
X
NRL Penrith +4.5 =$1.40
Dividend $2.66X $20=%53.20
Closing Balance $236.50
Cheers

That ones dead and buried

[rabbitz]

Bet 9
Opening Balance $296.50
NRL Bulldogs -5.5=$1.48
X
AFL West Coast WIN $1.57
Allup $2.32 X $40=$92.80
Closing Balance $250.50
Cheers

That ones dead as well

[rabbitz]

BET 8
Opening Balance $346.50
NRL Bulldogs v St George
Halftime/Fulltime Double
Bulldogs/Bulldogs $1.60
X
S12 Crusaders -6.5=$1.28
X
Highlanders +7.5=$1.36
X
AFL WESTCOAST Win $1.60
DIVIDEND $4.46 X $50=$223.00
Closing Balance $296.50
Fingers and Toes crossed
Cheers
ALL BETS WITH SPORTODDS
missed it by that much,bloody west coast,well done moeeeeee

[rabbitz]

BET 12
S12 Waratahs -1.5=$1.59
X
NRL Mel Storm -5.5=$1.56
Divi $2.48X$30=$74.40
Closing Balance $206.50
This is Great Fun
Cheers

[Sportz]

This is Great Fun


It's only fun in that we're using play money. :(

[TESTAROSSA]

Opening Balance - $500

Bet 1: Sportingbet

MULTI - head to head:

Roosters - $1.33

into

Penrith - $1.60

into

Melbourne Storm - $1.33

$2.83 X $50.00 = $141.50

Closing Balance = $450.

Know how ya feel Rabbitz, this one is dead already as well, and worst of all it was my own team that did it :(

[moeee]

AFL - Carlton 1-39 $3.20 Vs West Coast
x
S12 - Chiefs Vs Blues 13+ $2.25
x
NRL - Roosters -11.5 $2.10 Vs Souths


Return: $15.12 x Bet: $20.00 = $302.40

Closing Balance: $608.50

Well done on Carlton.
Tell you what,you're better than the drink!

[moeee]

BET 12
S12 Waratahs -1.5=$1.59
X
NRL Mel Storm -5.5=$1.56
Divi $2.48X$30=$74.40
Closing Balance $206.50
This is Great Fun
Cheers

Have a rest and come up for some air Rabbitz.
Worked for me after a shocking first round!

[moeee]

[list]
S12 - Chiefs Vs Blues 13+ $2.25
[list]


If the Blues were favourites,how come he gets the Blues at 13+ @ $2.25?
Or were the Chiefs the favourites?

[Jack Daniels]

Stoopid Blues. Should have stuck with Carlton 1-39 and the Roosters -11.5. :mad:

Moeee, I was only quoting what was on sportodds.com.

Bet 11 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $608.50

Multi Bet:


NRL - Warriors -5.5 $1.72 Vs Manly
x
NRL - Storm -6.5 $1.67 Vs Knights
x
NRL - Broncos -8.5 $2.10 Vs Nth QLD


Return: $6.03 x Bet: $50.00 = $301.50

Closing Balance: $558.50

[Jack Daniels]

If the Blues were favourites,how come he gets the Blues at 13+ @ $2.25?
Or were the Chiefs the favourites?

You do realise my bet was for the Blues to win by 13+. Not the Blues with +13 start. (there is a difference, depending on where you place the +).

The Blues with +13 start would have been at about $1.01 - $1.06 or thereabouts. Too short for me. But in hindsight I wish I had them with 13 points start.

Kapeesh?

[Sportz]

Yeah, I understood what you meant JD, but in future we should probably make sure we put 'start' or line' or 'margin' or whatever next to our tips, just so everyone knows what we're doing.

[Sportz]

Know how ya feel Rabbitz, this one is dead already as well, and worst of all it was my own team that did it :(

Hmmm, you know my feeling on that. But I can't talk. I stupidly went against one of my own rules in picking the Blues in the S12. :(

[rabbitz]

Have a rest and come up for some air Rabbitz.
Worked for me after a shocking first round!

Yeh your probably right,Waratahs won easily now all i need is the Storm to belt the Knights and there will be some money left,then its slow and steady
bank interest bets,Sportz I reckon you should allow loans say $200 at 10%
for those in trouble,not me but those in trouble.
cheers

[Chuck]

Okay, if these don't win, i'm betting less in this comp to try and get my money back.

OB $351

Broncos -4.5 ($1.70)
x
Storm -6.5 ($1.67)

$50 @ $2.84

= $141.95


First team to score:
Storm - $1.60

$50 @ $1.60
= $80.00


CB $251 (13 Bets)

[goldmember]

Opening Balance $400

Bet 5 MULTI Sportodds

NRL Storm Try [$1.90] 1st scoring play
NRL Manly Try [$2.55] 1st scoring play

$10 @ $4.84 = $48.40


Bet 6 MULTI Sportodds

NRL Storm Try [$1.90] 1st scoring play
NRL Manly Try [$2.55] 1st scoring play
NRL Cowboys Try [$2.70] 1st scoring play

$10 @ $13.08 = $130.80


Closing Balance $380.00

[Chuck]

i also think Storm/Storm is good value @ $1.73, but i'm not quite game enough to try, wth $100 already riding on their performance!

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 12 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $558.50

Multi Bet:


NRL - Storm -6.5 $1.67 Vs Knights
x
NRL - Broncos -8.5 $2.10 Vs Nth QLD


Return: $3.50 x Bet: $50.00 = $175.00

Closing Balance: $508.50

[Chuck]

sorry, i forgot - those bets were with sportodds

[Chuck]

CB $472.95 (13 BETS)

[Chuck]

i also think Storm/Storm is good value @ $1.73, but i'm not quite game enough to try, wth $100 already riding on their performance!
an easy win in the end!

[rabbitz]

BET 12
S12 Waratahs -1.5=$1.59
X
NRL Mel Storm -5.5=$1.56
Divi $2.48X$30=$74.40
Closing Balance $206.50
This is Great Fun
Cheers

Easy,bring on next week
$280.90

[Sportz]

After week four:

$683.50 Jack Daniels (12)
$597.00 TheBookie (9)
$507.00 QuickFunBet (3)
$491.95 Chuck (13)
$480.00 Floydyboy (1)
$477.00 Mofo (6)
$450.00 moeee (7)
$450.00 Testarossa (1)
$449.00 knowledge (4)
$425.60 Mr J (12)
$416.10 goldmember (6)
$412.60 Sportz (8)
$395.00 kiwi (4)
$350.00 bl4dez (3)
$280.90 rabbitz (11)

[moeee]

You do realise my bet was for the Blues to win by 13+. Not the Blues with +13 start. (there is a difference, depending on where you place the +).

The Blues with +13 start would have been at about $1.01 - $1.06 or thereabouts. Too short for me. But in hindsight I wish I had them with 13 points start.

Kapeesh?

Kapeesh.

I usually go by +13 or -13.
Not a big fan anything other than AFL.

[Sportz]

Week 5

All times EDST

NRL Rd2
Fri 7:30 PM Cowboys v Bulldogs
Sat 5:30 PM Raiders v Knights
Sat 7:30 PM Dragons v Storm
Sat 8:30 PM Broncos v Warriors
Sun 2:30 PM Sea Eagles v Sharks
Sun 3:00 PM Souths v Eels
Sun 3:00 PM Panthers v Roosters

Super12 Rd 4
Fri 5:35 PM Chiefs v Reds
Sat 3:30 PM Hurricanes v Bulls
Sat 5:35 PM Blues v Crusaders
Sat 7:40 PM Waratahs v Stormers
Sun 2:00 AM Cats v Brumbies
Sun 4:10 AM Sharks v Highlanders

You can post bets as soon as any of the 3 bookies put up odds. New tipsters please read the rules in the opening post of the thread.

[Mofo]

OB: $477.00

All S12

Bet7: Chiefs win $10 @ $1.26 ($12.60)
Bet8: Hurricanes win $10 @ $1.20 ($12.00)
Bet9: Waratahs win $20 @ $1.50 ($30.00)
Bet 10: Sharks win $10 @ $1.60 ($16.00)
Bet 11: Multi -
Chiefs $1.26
Hurricanes $1.20
Crusaders $1.47
Waratahs $1.50
Brumbies $1.24
Sharks $1.60 (all to win)
$10 @ $6.61 ($66.15)

CB $417.00

[Mofo]

Can I bet on 6 nations games (or is it Nations6 now?) - it feels as though it may be agains the spirit of the rules. Wouldn't mind having a wager on Ireland tho.

[Sportz]

Ummm, no mofo, that's not in the comp. And also, there is a limit of 5 legs in multi bets. Sorry.

[Mofo]

Sorry, remove the multi from the bets. I'll redo it later.

[Sportz]

Okay, so these are your bets:

OB: $477.00

All S12
Bet7: Chiefs win $10 @ $1.26 ($12.60)
Bet8: Hurricanes win $10 @ $1.20 ($12.00)
Bet9: Waratahs win $20 @ $1.50 ($30.00)
Bet 10: Sharks win $10 @ $1.60 ($16.00)

CB $427.00

[rabbitz]

Bet 12
Opening Balance $280.90
NRL Canberra Raiders +1.5=$1.45
S12 Act Brumbies -4.5=$1.42
S12 Hurricanes -5.5=$1.42
Dividend $2.93 X $50.00=$146.50 (sport odds)
Closing balance $230.90
Cheers

[Chuck]

OB $491.95 (13)

MULTI:
Broncos -9.5 - $1.90
x
Bulldogs -5.5 - $2.40
x
Cronulla +5.5 - $2.05
x
Eels +12.5 - $1.12
x
Panthers WIN - $1.58

$20 @ $16.54

= $330.80

MULTI:
Brumbies -11.5 - $1.90
x
Stormers +12.5 - $1.41
x
Blues WIN - $2.70

$30 @ $7.23

= $216.90


MULTI:
Bulldogs 13+ - $3.00
x
Broncos 13+ - $2.25
x
Cronulla WIN - $2.65
x
Brumbies 13+ - $2.00
x
Stormers WIN - $2.55

$10 @ $91.23

= $912.30

MULTI
Bulls +18.5 - $1.57
x
Stormers +11.5 - $1.46

$20 @ $2.29

= $45.80

Closing Balance $401.95 (17)

[kiwi]

Opening Balance $395


Line bets Sportsodds.com

Chiefs -10.5 to beat Reds $50

Crusaders -5.5 to beat Blues $50

Closing Balance $295

[Chuck]

ONCE AGAIN i've forgotten to mention that my bets are from sportodds.com

[Sportz]

That's okay Chuck.

Opening Balance $412.60

Bet 9
Multi (IAS)
NRL: Canberra ($1.50)
NRL: Manly ($1.50)
$10 @ $2.25 ($22.50)

Closing Balance $402.60

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 13 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $683.50

Multi Bet:


NRL - North Queensland +14.5 $1.31 Vs Bulldogs
x
S12 - Chiefs -4.5 $1.47 Vs Reds
x
S12 - Hurricanes -5.5 $1.42 Vs Bulls
x
NRL - Raiders $1.48 Vs Knights
x
S12 - Waratahs +6.5 $1.25 Vs Stormers


Return: $5.05 x Bet: $50.00 = $252.50

Closing Balance: $633.50

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 14 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $633.50

Multi Bet:


S12 - Chiefs 1st scoring play TRY $4.25 Vs Reds
x
S12 - Waratahs 1st scoring play TRY $4.25 Vs Stormers
x
NRL - Raiders 1st scoring play TRY $2.10 Vs Knights


Return: $37.93 x Bet: $10.00 = $379.30

Closing Balance: $623.50

[Sportz]

Opening balance $402.60

Bet 10
Multi (sportodds)
NRL: Canberra +7.5 start ($1.23)
NRL: Manly +7.5 start ($1.25)
$20 @ $1.54 ($30.75)

Bet 11
Multi (sportodds)
NRL: Canberra +7.5 start ($1.23)
NRL: Manly +7.5 start ($1.25)
NRL: Penrith +7.5 start ($1.28)
S12: Hurricanes to win ($1.20)
S12: Waratahs +7.5 start (+1.22)
$10 @ $2.88 ($28.80)

Closing balance $372.60

[Searay]

sPORTZ, COULD U PLEASE TELL ME WHO ON EARTH IS OFFERING +7.5 FOR CANBERRA AND +7.5 FOR MANLY BECAUSE IM JUST GOING TO THE BANK TO BORROW A HUNDRED MILLION FOR THE ALL UP?







Opening balance $402.60

Bet 10
Multi (sportodds)
NRL: Canberra +7.5 start ($1.23)
NRL: Manly +7.5 start ($1.25)
$20 @ $1.54 ($30.75)

Bet 11
Multi (sportodds)
NRL: Canberra +7.5 start ($1.23)
NRL: Manly +7.5 start ($1.25)
NRL: Penrith +7.5 start ($1.28)
S12: Hurricanes to win ($1.20)
S12: Waratahs +7.5 start (+1.22)
$10 @ $2.88 ($28.80)

Closing balance $372.60

[Sportz]

sportodds.com let you pick your own start. Just click on the odds under 'Line' and it gives you odds for each start. Of course the price goes up or down accordingly. You'll notice that Canberra with 7.5 start is only $1.23, not the regular $1.90.

[Searay]

Opening Balance $500BET 1 (IAS)
Multi
NRL: Canberra 1.50
NRL: Manly 1.50
NRL: Penrith 1.53

$50 @ 3.44 (172.00)

Closing Balance $450

[Searay]

sportodds.com let you pick your own start. Just click on the odds under 'Line' and it gives you odds for each start. Of course the price goes up or down accordingly. You'll notice that Canberra with 7.5 start is only $1.23, not the regular $1.90.

mmmm - Interesting!! CHEERS

[rabbitz]

Bet 13
OB $230.90
NRL Bulldogs -9.5=$2.35
NRL Souths +10.5=$1.48
NRL Canberra -3.5=$1.60
S12 Crusaders -13.5=$3.05
S12 Brumbies -13.5=$2.10
All up Dividend $35.64 X $10=$356.40
CB $220.90
Cheers

[Sportz]

Opening balance $372.60

Bet 12
Multi (IAS)
NRL: Canberra ($1.50)
NRL: Manly ($1.50)
NRL: Penrith ($1.53)
$10 @ 3.44 ($34.40)

Closing balance $362.60

[goldmember]

Opening Balance: $416.10

bet 7 sportoods
NRL [bulldogs/cowboysgame]
Willy Tonga 1st try scorer $20 @ $12.00 = $240.00

bet 8 sportodds
NRL [bulldogs/cowboys game]
Andrew Ryan 1st try scorer $10 @ $26.00 = $260.00


Closing Balance: $386.10

[goldmember]

Opening Balance: $386.10

bet 9 multi, sportodds :

NRL Bulldogs + 8.5 [$1.23]
NRL Broncos + 4.5 {$1.22]

$50 @ $1.50 = $75.00

Closing Balance $336.10

[goldmember]

Opening Balance : $336.10

bet 10 sportodds :

NRL Dragons/Storm, total game score: 47 and over $50 @ $1.90 = $95.00

Closing Balance $286.10

[moeee]

NRL - North Queensland +14.5 $1.31 Vs Bulldogs



Does this mean he gets a 14.5 start for north queensland and still only gets $1.31?

Yours truly,AFL Mo.

[moeee]

mmmm - Interesting!! CHEERS

Can I tell you,it's more than just interesting.IT IS ESSENTIAL.
Had a word to Norm Short about it.He didn't think it worthwhile.

[moeee]

CB $220.90


Never mind Rabbitz.
You can always book in for next years comp!

[moeee]

Opening balance $372.60

Bet 12
Multi (IAS)
NRL: Canberra ($1.50)
NRL: Manly ($1.50)
NRL: Penrith ($1.53)
$10 @ 3.44 ($34.40)

Closing balance $362.60

Case of dejavu?
Haven't I seen this bet posted earlier?

[rabbitz]

Bet 14
OB $220.90
NRL Bulldogs Ht/Ft Double $2.15 X $20=$43.00(IAS BET)
CB $200.90

[moeee]

Opening Balance: $386.10

bet 9 multi, sportodds :

NRL Bulldogs + 8.5 [$1.23]
NRL Broncos + 4.5 {$1.22]

$50 @ $1.50 = $75.00

Closing Balance $336.10

Certainly don't wish to tell you how to place your bets,but at those prices,I would have put a third selection in.Maybe even a fourth!

[rabbitz]

Never mind Rabbitz.
You can always book in for next years comp!

We shall see Mr. lets wait for the AFL
P.S. Have you backed St Kilda 20 times to win the premiership.

[Mr J]

Opening balance $425

Bet 13: $20 on Cowboys +5.5 at $1.92

Closing balance $195

[rabbitz]

Didnt see too many people take Reds 13+ @ $10 (unitab)
Pass the crystal ball boys
cheers

[Sportz]

Opening balance $425

Bet 13: $20 on Cowboys +5.5 at $1.92

Closing balance $195

Wow. What happened Mr J? The gremlins seem to have stolen $210 from your balance.

[Mr J]

For real I had chiefs winning by 7.5, so had reds +10.5. I think it was sportz that suggested that maybe I should only pick the bets I'm more confident in (for the comp anyway). Don't like backing the reds so no bet for the comp. Sportz owes me an extra $20 or so, but what's $20 going to mean in 200 bets time.

[Mr J]

Lol...yeh make that $405.

[Sportz]

For real I had chiefs winning by 7.5, so had reds +10.5. I think it was sportz that suggested that maybe I should only pick the bets I'm more confident in (for the comp anyway).

Sorry Mr J. All my fault. :D

Do you bet on every game, no matter how close the line? Or are there some games you won't touch because you think the bookies have it pretty much spot on? My ratings had the Chiefs winning by 9, so I considered the start of 10.5 a bit close. As I said earlier, I did think about backing the Reds, but in the end, just couldn't bring myself to back a team that had such a poor record in NZ.

[goldmember]

Opening Balance :$286.10

bet 11 multi sportodds

NRL Knights Try [1st scoring play] $2.65 **
NRL broncos -3.5 $1.48

$30 @ $3.92 = $117.60

Closing Balance $256.10

[Mr J]

Yeh if it's too close I won't bet. My buffer is around 2pts (use a spreadsheet, probally similiar to the formula the guys have posted up).

E.g. the canes and the bulls. My line is -11.89, it'd only be a bet if I could get -9 or +14.5. It's -/+ 12.5 so no bet.

That was the only non bet for s12 for me this week.

For NRL, the first line I saw for the cowboys was +4.5, which wasn't a bet for me (I had +3.3). That was offshore, when I look in Aus I saw +5.5 which makes it a bet.

The broncos I have at -11.02, but the line is -10, so no bet.

I like to have a 'perceived' edge of at least 5% on every bet. So in theory my system (if it works) should hit better than 5%ROI (55% winner against the line).

So it's not that I bet EVERYTHING, it's that I bet all games my system says I have an edge on (which seems to be most). Some games a no bets at one bookie but a bet at another. The +4.5 vs +5.5 for the cowboys was a great example. You can often find a pt better by shopping around the aussie and offshore books.

This week, my line vs the bookies:
NRL
Cowboys +3.3 vs +5.5
Raiders -7.88 vs -4.5 (this is what I got, most are -5 or -6).
Broncos -11.02 vs -10
Dragons -8.12 vs +1.5

S12
Chiefs -7.39 vs +10.5
Hurricanes -11.89 vs -12.5
Blues -4.95 vs +6
NSW -13.34 vs -5.5
Cats +4.26 vs +11
Sharks -1 vs -4.5

So some are close and some are far off. Results suggest that I do have a larger advantage on the larger overlays (ie the further my price is from the bookies), but not in proportion to how far it is actually off. E.g. my perceived 5% edges have hit 6-7% ROI. My perceived 20% edges have hit 10-15% ROI etc. Those figures are made up but it's just to show that when my lines are close to the bookies I'm more accurate than my perceived edge suggests, and when I'm way off from the bookies, I'm either way off or they are (and it's more often them than me).

[Mr J]

"Wow. What happened Mr J? The gremlins seem to have stolen $210 from your balance."

How about we call it a handicap. If I managed to win this comp from that balance, I will be a very very very very very very happy man. Means I probally made 30-40 units :)

[Sportz]

Raiders -7.88 vs -4.5 (this is what I got, most are -5 or -6).


Believe it or not, the NSW Tab actually had 2.5. Not surprisingly, it's been crunched.

[Mr J]

Opening balance $443.

Bet 14: Blues +5.5 $1.95 at Sportodds for $20.

Closing balance $423.

[moeee]

P.S. Have you backed St Kilda 20 times to win the premiership.

I may be foolish,but I ain't no idiot!
Round 22 seems to be the appropriate time to get set for the premiership.Are you listening Sportz?

[Sportz]

It depends. Last year I backed St Kilda pre-season at $8. Then I backed Brisbane and Port Adelaide mid season at $3.85 & $7.50. Come Grand Final day I was sitting on a minimum of 87.5% profit, no matter the result of the game. Wouldn't have done as well if I had waited till Rd 22. The one bet that I reckon you really should wait until Rd 22 for is the Brownlow.

[Mr J]

Opening balance $423

Bet 15 NSW -5.5 at $1.95 for $20 at SO
Bet 16 Cats +10.5 at $1.90 for $20 at SO
Bet 17 Highlanders +4.5 at $1.90 for $20 at SO
Bet 18 Broncos -8.5 at $1.92 for $20 at IAS
Bet 19 Dragons +2.5 at $1.90 for $20 at SO

SO=sportodds, IAS= well...IAS ;)

Damn raiders line. I got em for -4.5, line is a stupid -7.5 and -6.5 at $1.82, so no value any more and no bet for the comp.

Closing balance $323

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 13 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $623.50

Multi Bet:


NRL - Raiders -5.5 $1.70 Vs Knights
x
NRL - Dragons Vs Storm $1.73
x
NRL - Manly -5.5 $1.75 Vs Cronulla
x
S12 - Waratahs $1.52 Vs Stormers


Return: $7.82 x Bet: $20.00 = $156.40

Closing Balance: $603.50

[Chuck]

Open Balance $401.95 (17)

MULTI
Stormers +15.5 - $1.28
x
Brumbies -6.5 - $1.59
x
Sharks +8.5 - $1.21

$50 * $2.46

= $123.00

MULTI
Broncos +6.5 - $1.17
x
Panthers +8.5 - $1.18
x
Eels +6.5 - $1.29

$50 * $1.78

= $89.00

Close Balance $301.95

[Jack Daniels]

My last bet two posts above this one should be shown as Bet 15.

[Jack Daniels]

Bet 16 (Sportodds.com)

Opening Balance: $603.50

Multi Bet:


NRL - Manly -5.5 $1.75 Vs Cronulla
x
NRL - Penrith Vs Roosters +12.5 $1.44
x
NRL - Souths +12.5 $1.40 Vs Parramatta


Return: $3.53 x Bet: $50.00 = $176.50

Closing Balance: $553.50

[rabbitz]

OB $200.90
Bet 14(SPORTODDS)
NRL MANLY +1.5=$1.42
X
NRL SOUTHS +12.5=$1.43
X
NRL PENRITH WIN $1.45
All up $2.94X$50=$147
CB $150.90