THE BMW- 2400M [Group 1] 19 Mar 05 - Rosehill

[Paddy]

1 ABLE STANDARD (NZ) Bruce Wallace
2 ACTION SHOT (NZ) Jim Conlan
3 ANOTHER WARRIOR Alan Bailey
4 BARELY A MOMENT Tony McEvoy
5 CASUAL PASS Mathew Ellerton
6 CAUGHT COURTING (NZ) Guy Walter
7 CHEIRI Lindsay Hatch
8 CHESHIRE (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
9 CHEVAL DE TROY (NZ) Colin Jillings
10 CHUT Lee Freedman
11 CONQUEST Gary Portelli
12 COUNT RICARDO Stephen Theodore
13 COUNTY TYRONE Kris Lees
14 DANCE HERO Gai Waterhouse
15 DANZARBER Gai Waterhouse
16 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse
17 DODGEM Peter Staunton
18 DON RAPHAEL Kerry Parker
19 DOWRY (NZ) Murray Baker
20 ECONSUL (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
21 EMGEE REX Russell Jarrett
22 ENDOWMENT (NZ) John Wallace
23 FRESENIUS Bob Thomsen
24 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse
25 GRANDLY David Payne
26 HIGH CEE (NZ) Bart Cummings
27 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy
28 JOVIAL Gai Waterhouse
29 LANDSDOWN HOUSE (NZ) John Hawkes
30 LUTALO (NZ) John O'Shea
31 MAHTOUM Kim Moore
32 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman
33 MANAWA KING (NZ) Jim Conlan
34 MANDELA (NZ) Richard Otto
35 MAVERICK (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
36 MEDIA PUZZLE (USA) Dermot Weld
37 MR CELEBRITY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
38 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman
39 MY CHINESE KING Gregory Hickman
40 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison
41 NEW YORK STYLE Angelis Vasili
42 NO PENALTY (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
43 NOBLE RED Lee Freedman
44 OUTBACK PRINCE Anthony Cummings
45 PURE SILENCE Lee Freedman
46 REQUISITE (NZ) Michael Moroney
47 SATURDAY FEVER Tony McEvoy
48 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson
49 SET UP Graeme Rogerson
50 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson
51 SIR BEAL (NZ) Bart Cummings
52 THE JEWEL (NZ) Hector Anderton
53 TIMBOURINA Tony Wildman
54 VANQUISHED Bede Murray
55 VEREZA (NZ) Guy Walter
56 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody
57 WINNING BELLE (NZ) Gai Waterhouse
58 YES BOSS Gai Waterhouse

[Paddy]

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse D Beasley 1 58
2 HUGS DANCER (FR) Tony McEvoy C Brown 2 58
3 COUNTY TYRONE Kris Lees H Bowman 10 58
4 ANOTHER WARRIOR Alan Bailey L Cassidy 3 58
5 MAHTOUM Kim Moore 9 58
6 MANAWA KING (NZ) Jim Conlan 7 58
7 SEUL AMOUR (NZ) Graeme Rogerson J Cassidy 5 57.5
8 MAKYBE DIVA (GB) Lee Freedman G Boss 8 55.5
9 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody D Beadman 4 55
10 OUTBACK PRINCE Anthony Cummings 6 53
11 CHEVAL DE TROY (NZ) Colin Jillings R S Dye 11 53

[Paddy]

No. Selection Win

001 Grand Armee $1.75
008 Makybe Diva $2.50
009 Vouvray $15.00
011 Cheval De Troy $17.00
002 Hugs Dancer $21.00
010 Outback Prince $34.00
005 Mahtoum $51.00
004 Another Warrior $67.00
006 Manawa King $67.00
003 County Tyrone $101.00
007 Seul Amour $101.00

[Tenacious Spirit]

Vouvray is at $21 on sportsbet. Apart from GA and diva this looks like the horse that can win. I think that price represents value

[El Gordo]

The Diva is a special.

Followed by

Vouvray / Grand Armee
and then the 3yo's

[Tenacious Spirit]

There are a few plodders in there that will just get in the way.

[THE PHANTOM]

MAKYBE DIVA
GRAND ARMEE
VOUVRAY
COUNTY TYRONE

[Paddy]

No. Horse Win

001 Grand Armee $1.85
008 Makybe Diva $2.25
011 Cheval De Troy $13.00
009 Vouvray $15.00
002 Hugs Dancer $26.00
010 Outback Prince $41.00
005 Mahtoum $51.00
006 Manawa King $67.00
004 Another Warrior $81.00
003 County Tyrone $101.00
007 Seul Amour $101.00

[Paddy]

No. Horse WAS NOW

001 Grand Armee $1.75 $1.85
008 Makybe Diva $2.50 $2.25
011 Cheval De Troy $17.00 $13.00
009 Vouvray $15.00 $15.00
002 Hugs Dancer $21.00 $26.00
010 Outback Prince $34.00 $41.00
005 Mahtoum $51.00 $51.00
006 Manawa King $67.00 $67.00
004 Another Warrior $67.00 $81.00
003 County Tyrone $101.00 $101.00
007 Seul Amour $101.00 $101.00

[Horse Whisperer]

Can someone explain to me why Makybe Diva isnt the top weight?? I dont understand how it can race so well and have 55.5.

[Betsy]

Grand Armee
Vouvray
Makybe Diva

[rabbitz]

Is Grand armee a 2400m horse?
I think Makybe Divas odds will shorten $2.35 on Unitab fixed is pretty good
dont know about Cheval de troy
Vouvray would be competitive on best form,caulfield cup run was good
Cheers

[brave chief]

Horse Whisperer, its a WFA event, not a Hcp.

[Paddy]

Len Beasley to ride MAHTOUM

[Mr ed]

I can definately see Makybe racing favourite here, but although she is so good and i have won so much from her, i don't think she'll beat Grand Armee. He gets all the favors in this race and he certainly was strong at the end of 2000, i think anything over even money he's a great bet.

[maverick1993]

Grand Armee on his home turf,,to hard to beat...
I think Hugs Dancer will run a nice race..last time he did all the futile chasing behind GA hoping this time he'll settle back and have a go at the end ..the longer the race the better....hope its a good track ...i might just have a go at him....still thinking :)
about time there was an upset !!

[Heavyweight]

I just want to see this race; one of the sporting highlights of the year.

[Duritz]

She'll run him down. She wouldn't if it were 2000m, but she CERTAINLY will over 2400. (assuming she doesn't do an elvstroem, gag gag!)

[suds]

8) The Diva From Down Under
1) Grand Armee
3) Another Warrior
2) Hugs Dancer

[bl4dez]

have grand armee ever win at this dist?

[goldmember]

Makybe Diva **
County Tyrone
Manawa King
Vouvray

Grand Armee- [2400 + wet ] = 100/1

[Paddy]

Horse Win

Grand Armee $1.95
Makybe Diva $2.10
Cheval De Troy $9.00
Vouvray $17.00
Hugs Dancer $34.00
Outback Prince $41.00
Mahtoum $51.00
Manawa King $67.00
Another Warrior $101.00
County Tyrone $101.00
Seul Amour $101.00

[Paddy]

Horse WAS NOW

Grand Armee $1.85 $1.95
Makybe Diva $2.25 $2.10
Cheval De Troy $13.00 $9.00
Vouvray $15.00 $17.00
Hugs Dancer $26.00 $34.00
Outback Prince $41.00 $41.00
Mahtoum $51.00 $51.00
Manawa King $67.00 $67.00
Another Warrior $81.00 $101.00
County Tyrone $101.00 $101.00
Seul Amour $101.00 $101.00

[Paddy]

Makybe Diva to win
County Tyrone to place

[Real Deal]

Word has it that all the money is for the diva and now sportsbet has been left with no choice but to install makybe diva as a $2.00 favourite ahead of grand armee at $2.10.

[maverick1993]

I think tomorrow if it continues to rain ..The diva will be even shorter...
GA isn't hopeless in the wet..fantastic value ,,might even get 2.40 ..

[Seeker11]

Makybe Diva
Grand Armee
Hugs Dancer

[wotarun]

MAKYBE DIVA
VOUVRAY
GRAND ARMEE
ANOTHER WARRIOR

[pop]

8 MAKYBE DIVA
5 MAHTOUM
9 VOUVRAY
1 GRAND ARMEE

[Paddy]

Track dead, all starting.

[Hammers]

Goldmember,

Track dead. Grand Armee last start on a dead track wins a Group One by 5 lengths eased up.

I'll take the 100's thanks.

[Paddy]

No. Horse Win

008 Makybe Diva $1.90
001 Grand Armee $2.10
011 Cheval De Troy $11.00
009 Vouvray $13.00
002 Hugs Dancer $34.00
005 Mahtoum $51.00
010 Outback Prince $51.00
006 Manawa King $67.00
003 County Tyrone $101.00
004 Another Warrior $101.00
007 Seul Amour $101.00

[Paddy]

NO. SELECTION WAS NOW

008 Makybe Diva $2.10 $1.90
001 Grand Armee $1.95 $2.10
011 Cheval De Troy $9.00 $11.00
009 Vouvray $17.00 $13.00
002 Hugs Dancer $34.00 $34.00
005 Mahtoum $51.00 $51.00
010 Outback Prince $41.00 $51.00
006 Manawa King $67.00 $67.00
003 County Tyrone $101.00 $101.00
004 Another Warrior $101.00 $101.00
007 Seul Amour $101.00 $101.00

[Sportz]

You can see how popular Makybe Diva is by the early tote figures. She's only 1.40 at the moment and Grand Armee is $6.80!!!

[Chuck]

i think she is good value anything above $1.35, because she is GOING TO WIN

[Raw Instinct]

She is the best horse in Australia right now absolutely amazing win Grand Armee should have walked in he cannot run 2400m the mare just might be the best horse I have seen I certainly haven't seen many better if any.

[Chuck]

for her to be able to just sprint for about 600m is unbelievable. That was a brilliantly run race by her - she had him even before the turn. Forget that Grand Armee wasn't going to run the distance, just look at how easily the diva made up the 12 length lead in the blink of an eye. Almost a hands and heels win

[Betsy]

What a top run, props to Makybe and Bossy, a very ballsy run once again, greatest horse ive had the pleasure of witnessing!

[Raw Instinct]

Chuck don't get me wrong not knocking her at all Grand Armee got every chance to run the distance out she is an out and out champion

[Paddy]

05 BMW WFA
2400 Metres
2:20pm
2ND LEG EXTRA DOUBLE
1ST LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
8 2.00 1.10
1...............1.30
9...............2.50

QUINELLA (1-8) 1.80
EXACTA (8-1) 3.30
TRIFECTA
(8-1-9) 16.30
FIRST 4
(8-1-9-10) 97.10
EXTRA DOUBLE (1-8) 9.10
SPECIAL DIV. (1-SCR) 4.20

(8) MAKYBE DIVA (G.BOSS)
(1) GRAND ARMEE (D.BEASLEY)
(9) VOUVRAY (D.BEADMAN)
(10) OUTBACK PRINCE (D.DUNN)

SCR - NIL
Quadrella Sub = 8

[Paddy]

The Diva is a special.

Followed by

Vouvray / Grand Armee
and then the 3yo's

El Gordo! Not seen you around for a while. Still on the ball I see.

[Kitch]

What a race...damn Diva is good.

[mecurial]

Makybe Diva has cost me dearly. I had Grand Armee in the first leg of the quaddie, just for $1, me not being a big time punter and not usually one for the exotics i just chucked it on for interest....and then the next three ran in like they did. Cost me $313. Would of made a very good day a pearler.

[Mr ed]

Too big, too good, too strong. Should never have backed against her, i agree GA didn't stay he absolutely plodded over the line.

[Paddy]

Too bid, too good, too strong. Should never have backed against her, i agree GA didn't stay he absolutely plodded over the line.

Beg to differ Mr ed. Wasn't a weakness in the GA armour that made the difference. Seems the Diva is still underrated in some quarters. I guess that's just racing !

[Mr ed]

Not at all Paddy, she's awesome, had plenty left, she would have beaten him anyway. But no judge watching the race could say that Grand Armee looked comfortable at the trip. This can be seen by the difference in margins between he and Vouvray from their previous outing in which he was eased down. I am a huge a fan of the Diva, she's an absolute world beater, but just calling GA's race on it's own merits.

[Paddy]

Still one would expect Vouvray to perform better this run, just back from a spell & did run a grand race in last years Caulfield Cup, this distance and on a dead track.

[Mr ed]

Fair enough, but Vouvray was second-up when she ran that great race in the Caulfield Cup, and the trainer has always believed she goes better on the fresh side. GA is not as affective @ 2400m as he is @ 2000m do you agree on this? Again emphasising i'm in awe of Makybe, no other horse in Australia could have got near him from her position.

[Raw Instinct]

Mr Ed I would say Grand Armee is questionable against the top horses over 2000 metres it a truly run race where he doesn't get it all his own way in front. I think he is a really good miler who has gotten a few real good wins over longer journeys because he gets to walk in front and sprint against stayers who usually cannot sprint. IMO GA got it all his way yesterday to the difference was that this time there was a stayer in the race with a better sprint than maybe any stayer we have ever seen her sectionals are truly extrordinary she is the best horse I have seen which may not quite be the ammount of horses alot of you guys have but of the modern era which I have seen I havenot seen better.

[Paddy]

GA is not as affective @ 2400m as he is @ 2000m do you agree on this? Given his 2000M record & with only 2 (I think) 2400M attempts, you'd have to agree Mr ed.....is his Hong Kong trip still on the agenda?

[Raw Instinct]

Paddy I thought I had heard that the Hong Kong trip was off but certainly do not take that as being set in stone.

[Mr ed]

Yeh, dunno mate. Was a bit dirty the other day, probably not that GA didn't stay but that i didn't back the greatest stayer, probably horse, we have ever seen. I still don't think he wants it over 2000 but in saying that if the mighty mare wasn't there he wouldv'e won a WFA G1 by 2 lengths. I did underrate her b4 the race, i.e using Winning Belle as a formline, and taking into account her last Sydney campaign, which wasn't stunning. She deserves all the accolades she gets. Beat the world and bring her back for the Cox Plate, she'd give it a huge shake.

[zorro]

Like everyone else I've been in awe of the Diva's last 2 runs. If she was mine I wouldn't be mucking around with 2 mile races in Japan. I'd be buying Freedman an English-French dictionary and heading straight for the Arc de Triomphe. I reckon she's Australia's best-ever chance in the world's top race.