QUEEN ELIZABETH STAKES - 2000M [Group 1] 2 April 05 - Randwick

[Paddy]

1 DANEHILL EXPRESS Brian Mayfield-Smith
2 DELZAO Robert Smerdon
3 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse
4 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse
5 IKE'S DREAM John Hawkes
6 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman
7 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison
8 RIZON Cliff Brown
9 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson
10 SIMPLY VIV Dean S Smith
11 ST REIMS (NZ) Chris Mcnab
12 TOULOUSE LAUTREC John Hawkes
13 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody

[Paddy]

No Horse Trainer Weight

1 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse 58
2 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse 58
3 TOULOUSE LAUTREC John Hawkes 58
4 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman 58
5 DELZAO Robert Smerdon 58
6 ST REIMS (NZ) Chris Mcnab 58
7 RIZON Cliff Brown 58
8 NATURAL BLITZ Doug Harrison 58
9 SIMPLY VIV Dean S Smith 58
10 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody 55.5
11 IKE'S DREAM John Hawkes 55.5
12 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson 54.5
13 DANEHILL EXPRESS Brian Mayfield-Smith 54.5

[Paddy]

No. Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight

1 GRAND ARMEE Gai Waterhouse D Beasley 2 58
2 DESERT WAR Gai Waterhouse C Munce 10 58
3 TOULOUSE LAUTREC John Hawkes 3 58
4 MUMMIFY Lee Freedman J Cassidy 7 58
5 DELZAO Robert Smerdon Steven King 1 58
6 ST REIMS (NZ) Chris Mcnab L Innes 11 58
7 RIZON Cliff Brown 8 58
8 SIMPLY VIV Dean S Smith 4 58
9 VOUVRAY (NZ) Peter G Moody L Beasley 6 55.5
10 IKE'S DREAM John Hawkes 9 55.5
11 SAVABEEL Graeme Rogerson R S Dye 5 54.5

[Paddy]

No. Horse Win
001 Grand Armee $1.80
003 Toulouse Lautrec $7.00
011 Savabeel $7.00
002 Desert War $9.00
010 Ike's Dream $9.00
009 Vouvray $11.00
005 Delzao $21.00
004 Mummify $26.00
006 St Reims $34.00
007 Rizon $101.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00

[Paddy]

TOULOUSE LAUTREC to be ridden by C Brown
RIZON to be ridden by J Sheehan
SIMPLY VIV to be ridden by B Rawiller
IKE'S DREAM to be ridden by D Beadman

[Sporty]

1 GRAND ARMEE
11 SAVABEEL
10 IKE'S DREAM
9 VOUVRAY

[Chiquita]

(1) GRAND ARMEE
(3) TOULOUSE LAUTREC
(11) SAVABEEL
(2) DESERT WAR

[whiterhino]

1) GRAND ARMEE
4) MUMMIFY
9) VOUVRAY
5) DELZAO

[mecurial]

Im going to give Savabeel one last go. Light in the weights, Shane Dye on board and Grand Armee is well into the campaign 2400 might of taken it out of him a couple of weeks ago. Should be a bit of value as well.

[Real Deal]

If i can offer any advice it would be to kep all the money you are going to outlay on savabeel in your pocket. Its last start i was at flemington and the jockey put away the whip at the 100 cause the horse refused to respond. The going is probably worse up there and it will be no where near the finish of this race.

[Duritz]

Interesting words thanks Real Deal.

I keep looking and looking at this race, and wondering how the **** are they going to beat GA. If it goes like it has it's last two then they surely cannot, because if they could then they'd be better than M.Diva too, and NONE of these horses are better (or even close to) M.Diva at WFA. So, GA should be an absolute moral then. The only thing is as Mercurial said, if GA is over the top. If not, it just wins. I'll want $2.50 though. Hell I might not bet. This just looks too straightforward - like two ago when he brained them, this looks like another walk in the park. SOMETHING must be going to happen, becuase horse racing isn't this straightforward, surely? I mark GA a $1.30 chance on my ratings, he has literally lengths on these horses but they don't get any weight from him (or if they do, only weight for age allowance). If he performs again, he wins, full stop. By three or four. So, with that in mind, isn't $1.80 or so insane overs??? If, as I said, his best (ie his last two starts) beats their best with ease, shouldn't he be $1.30?

[sportzcaster]

1] GRAND ARMEE
2] DESERT WAR
11] SAVABEEL
5] DELZAO

[Raw Instinct]

Toulouse Lautrec
Savabeel
Vouvray

[Filante]

If i can offer any advice it would be to kep all the money you are going to outlay on savabeel in your pocket. Its last start i was at flemington and the jockey put away the whip at the 100 cause the horse refused to respond. The going is probably worse up there and it will be no where near the finish of this race.

Savabeel's best form has been 4th up and following. He's 4th up tomorrow. He steps up to 2000m, which suits. And he returns to his home track. It's worth noting that his win at this track and distance was in slow conditions, so track conditions won't bother him if it's a bit wet. I think he's the only danger to Grand Armee.

I rate them:

1. Grand Armee $1.8
11. Savabeel $5.7

[TheMail]

(9) Vouvray
(1) Grand Armee
(4) Mummify
(6) St Reims

[Gasomo93]

(11) SAVABEEL
(1) GRAND ARMEE
(10) IKE'S DREAM
(9) VOUVRAY

[smidgin]

1) Grand Armee
3) Toulouse Lautrec
6) St Reims
9) vouvray

[Paddy]

No. Horse Win Place
001 Grand Armee $1.75 $1.15
003 Toulouse Lautrec $8.00 $2.25
011 Savabeel $8.00 $2.25
002 Desert War $11.00 $2.35
010 Ike's Dream $11.00 $2.50
009 Vouvray $13.00 $2.65
004 Mummify $21.00 $3.50
005 Delzao $21.00 $5.00
006 St Reims $34.00 $8.00
007 Rizon $101.00 $21.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00 $51.00

[Paddy]

No. Horse Was Now
001 Grand Armee $1.80 $1.75
003 Toulouse Lautrec $7.00 $8.00
011 Savabeel $7.00 $8.00
002 Desert War $9.00 $11.00
010 Ike's Dream $9.00 $11.00
009 Vouvray $11.00 $13.00
004 Mummify $26.00 $21.00
005 Delzao $21.00 $21.00
006 St Reims $34.00 $34.00
007 Rizon $101.00 $101.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00 $251.00

[bwuce]

TOULOUSE LAUTREC
GRAND ARMEE
ST REIMS
VOUVRAY

[NANOOK]

Well, although Grand Armee is almost a surething and after witnessing the seagull race, I won't say absolute. I have gone for a bit of value and believe
St. Reims could run a good race. The only time this horse raced in Australia was in the Yalumba Stakes and finished 4.4L behind Mummify, Grand Armee and Starcraft into 4th placing. It's five runs since the Yalumba have been impressive finishing no worse than 2.4L and winning twice from three starts over 2000m and a 2nd behind Xcellent 1.8L who was favourite for the Derby, but failed. My only concern is the class rise but connections obviously believe he's up to it by flying him all this way for this race and after all he is a Zabeel entire, so 'Winner of the Group 1 Queen Elizabeth Stakes' would look impressive in any promotional material? There you have it St. Reims from Grand Armee and Savabeel.

One final thought if he doesn't fill a placing I'd nut him and set him for the Grand National Steeplechase!

Cheers

[Mav3000]

1 GRAND ARMEE
6 ST REIMS
11 SAVABEEL
9 VOUVRAY

[Paddy]

Track dead, all starting.

[feather]

GRAND ARMEE
SAVABEEL
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
DESERT WAR

[goldmember]

VOUVRAY e/w *
DESERT WAR
TOULOUSE LAUTREC
SAVABEEL

[Paddy]

No. Horse Win Place
001 Grand Armee $1.75 $1.15
011 Savabeel $8.00 $2.25
003 Toulouse Lautrec $9.00 $2.25
010 Ike's Dream $10.00 $2.50
002 Desert War $11.00 $2.35
009 Vouvray $13.00 $2.65
004 Mummify $15.00 $3.00
005 Delzao $21.00 $5.00
006 St Reims $34.00 $8.00
007 Rizon $101.00 $21.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00 $51.00

[Paddy]

No. Horse Was Now
001 Grand Armee $1.75 $1.75
011 Savabeel $8.00 $8.00
003 Toulouse Lautrec $8.00 $9.00
010 Ike's Dream $11.00 $10.00
002 Desert War $11.00 $11.00
009 Vouvray $13.00 $13.00
004 Mummify $21.00 $15.00
005 Delzao $21.00 $21.00
006 St Reims $34.00 $34.00
007 Rizon $101.00 $101.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00 $251.00

[watsonnek]

(4) Mummify
(1) Grand Armee
(9) Vouvray
(11) Savabeel

[PrinceJudea]

GRAND ARMEE is obviously the one to beat. Be surprised if he doesn’t win.

If ST REIMS can improve on his last campaign here could be a smoky. Going great guns in NZ and may even give Grand Armee a run for his money.

Would not be surprised to see proven WFA performer MUMMIFY run a big race in this. Not suited the slow track yet great run in the Chairmans. Has done OK track and distance in the past.

Cox Plate winner SAVABEEL is now back in Sydney and should be ready to produce best. Unbeaten this distance and has done OK this track in the past.

[Paddy]

No. Selection Win Place
001 Grand Armee $1.75 $1.15
011 Savabeel $8.00 $2.25
003 Toulouse Lautrec $9.00 $2.25
010 Ike's Dream $10.00 $2.50
002 Desert War $11.00 $2.35
009 Vouvray $13.00 $2.65
004 Mummify $15.00 $3.00
005 Delzao $21.00 $5.00
006 St Reims $34.00 $8.00
007 Rizon $101.00 $21.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00 $51.00

[Paddy]

No. Horse Was Final
001 Grand Armee $1.75 $1.15
011 Savabeel $8.00 $2.25
003 Toulouse Lautrec $8.00 $2.25
010 Ike's Dream $11.00 $2.50
002 Desert War $11.00 $2.35
009 Vouvray $13.00 $2.65
004 Mummify $21.00 $3.00
005 Delzao $21.00 $5.00
006 St Reims $34.00 $8.00
007 Rizon $101.00 $21.00
008 Simply Viv $251.00 $51.00

[whiterhino]

1) GRAND ARMEE
4) MUMMIFY
9) VOUVRAY
5) DELZAO

Another MAGIC moment :D

[Paddy]

07 BIGPOND QUEEN
ELIZABETH 3YO+ STAKES
2000 Metres
3:45pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE
3RD LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
1 2.00 1.30
5.............4.90
4.............3.00
QUINELLA 20.60
EXACTA 44.80
TRIFECTA 334.00
FIRST4 1559.80
(1-5-4-9)
SPECIAL DIV 2.00

( 1) GRAND ARMEE
( 5) DELZAO
( 4) MUMMIFY
( 9) VOUVRAY

SCR - NIL
QUADRELLA SUB - 1

[Real Deal]

Haven't given the race the good once over yet, but i only wish i could pick winners as easy as i can pick horses that have no chance. Savabeel was the easiest lay for the whole day, just wondering if it ever had a chance?

[Paddy]

1) GRAND ARMEE
4) MUMMIFY
9) VOUVRAY
5) DELZAO


Well I’ll be whiterhino! Hot fav home but you’ve still managed to get great roi! Excellent effort whiterhino !!

QUINELLA $20.60
EXACTA $44.80
TRIFECTA $334.00
FIRST4 $1,559.80

[Paddy]

If i can offer any advice it would be to kep all the money you are going to outlay on savabeel in your pocket. Its last start i was at flemington and the jockey put away the whip at the 100 cause the horse refused to respond. The going is probably worse up there and it will be no where near the finish of this race.

Spot on with your advice Real Deal! ;)

[Paddy]

Interesting words thanks Real Deal.

I keep looking and looking at this race, and wondering how the **** are they going to beat GA. If it goes like it has it's last two then they surely cannot, because if they could then they'd be better than M.Diva too, and NONE of these horses are better (or even close to) M.Diva at WFA. So, GA should be an absolute moral then. The only thing is as Mercurial said, if GA is over the top. If not, it just wins. I'll want $2.50 though. Hell I might not bet. This just looks too straightforward - like two ago when he brained them, this looks like another walk in the park. SOMETHING must be going to happen, becuase horse racing isn't this straightforward, surely? I mark GA a $1.30 chance on my ratings, he has literally lengths on these horses but they don't get any weight from him (or if they do, only weight for age allowance). If he performs again, he wins, full stop. By three or four. So, with that in mind, isn't $1.80 or so insane overs??? If, as I said, his best (ie his last two starts) beats their best with ease, shouldn't he be $1.30?

Insane overs indeed Duritz, hope you reaped the benefit.