My Selections for today.

[saratoga samchaz]

Hopefully won't be missing any more nice cashes as I went to re-open my phone bet acct, but won't be in action until tomorrow. When is ALINGHI gonna surface in a race? I wanna see this girl go!!!!!

[Sportz]

Matter of fact, what did Mr. Ed mean when he said Bluecollar Jack "found sweet fa"?

:D F.A actually stands for f*** all. So what Mr Ed meant was that the horse had every chance to win that race, but found absolutely nothing under pressure!!!

[racingnovice]

I don't usually bet jumps races but this one could win with 3 legs :). Really cant see anything beating it unless it falls.

Geelong Race 1
AL GARHOOD

[saratoga samchaz]

Got ya Sportz! Sorta like what I say when I keep missing the big payers. LOL

[Sportz]

Geelong
Race 3 - 6 REEWAYA, 5 Moon Fever (6,5,1,3 - 2,4)
Race 4 - 2 POLYESTER BOY & 1 RINEHART (2,1,11,10 - 5,7)
Race 6 - 7 CHITABE, 16 Caller One (7,16,4,9 - 8,5,2)
Race 8 - 8 MATRAS, 3 Light Of Day

Seymour
Race 4 - 4 JESTAWINNA, 5 Zendin' An Angel (4,5,1 - 2,3)
Race 6 - 2 PRINCE DANDE LION & 4 REV EM UP (2,4,1,3 -9,5)
Race 7 - 5 FIELD HUNTER & 7 BONO (5,7,1,4 - 3,9)
Race 9 - 2 BOLD DECEIVER, 1 Umaha (2,1,11,5 - 6,8)

[Sportz]

Got ya Sportz! Sorta like what I say when I keep missing the big payers. LOL

Yeah, you won "sweet f.a". :)

[Sportz]

Think Tom Coureuse is a big danger to the two I've mentioned in Geelong R6.

[Sportz]

Ahh, no need to worry. :)

[maverick1993]

Doing well Sportz ..good onya ..
had a go at Bono ..he's been a good horse to us :)
Polyester Boy would of been nice got $8 fixed on ias ...dam 2nds ..
looks like you might get a clean sweep in Geelong..Matras looks classy..

[Sportz]

Race 9 - 2 BOLD DECEIVER, 1 Umaha (2,1,11,5 - 6,8)

Not a bad trifecta there. Bold Deceiver was very disappointing though. :o

[Sportz]

What happened to Snick, Mav? Looks like he's been declared a non-runner.

[maverick1993]

lol..the racing gods felt sorry for me..i had bets on Don Sequalo and Undenied ..but the big go on Snick,,,so in the end it was good result ..
been copping a hamering the last 2 days ..Knew when Walarah boy was beaten by a nose and then Polyester Boy just missed that it was going to be one of those days..
Bono and Undenied the shining light and had a play bet on Celtic Bloom....but alas ..a loss for the day and that means a loss for the week,,dissapointing after jagging a few monsters ...imagine not getting that Petrol head tri..i'd be standing next in line to Mr Peters .. actually worse as i dont have a group winner to sell...
Thank God theres dependable old Brissie tomorrow :) i've had enough of losing for awhile..

Didnt think Matras was all that convincing .a good run but not racing to put her in the doubles just yet.......have a friend who has already taken big doubles with it. after the barrier trial,,

Well done today Sportz...winners are winners no matter what the price...

[Sportz]

Hmmm yeah, she wasn't as impressive as I was hoping. Hope your mate hasn't bet too much.

Personally, I've just had a few little $5 bets on the cups so far, just for a bit of fun. I won't get serious about the cups for a while yet. I've got Matras ($51) & Tick By ($41) for the Caulfield Cup and Vinnie Roe ($21) and Accumulate ($26) for the Melbourne Cup.

3 from 3 with my specials today, so not too bad. However, the races where I seem to do the best lately are the ones where I have 2 horses rated on top and back them both equally. 3 of those races today for 3 good winners and a nice profit.

Also had a few small bets today on Allan Robinson and the Crossland/Chillemi combination. So it was a good day.

[maverick1993]

I've got 40 doubles on ...i'll put another 60 on as it gets nearer..$5 each .both the Cox MC and Caul / MC .. minumin $3000 collect so far
more for fun than anything ..
Got the Fields of Omagh / Makybe double a couple of years ago....and that was before Fields won that lead up race,,..mainly thanks to a forum member who was super confident..told him i'd name my first born after him if Makybe or Delzao won the MC ....but with a name like Durbridge he'd get bashed so i couldnt....
missed last year..Savabeel ?? and didnt think the girl could do it again..
The duck will win it this year ;)

[Sportz]

I've got 40 doubles on ...i'll put another 60 on as it gets nearer

:eek:

[Horse Whisperer]

Just wondering if anyone saw the first up run of Romantic Journey whos racing in race 8 at brisbane tomorrow?? I like Bikini Bottom but just unsure as this horse won by 4 lengths over the same distance in its first run. Also whats anyones thoughts on Matey tomorrow in the 3rd at brisbane.

[Sportz]

Saratoga Samchaz,

Looks like Alinghi is running at Saratoga this weekend. First up over 1700m for some reason. Can't work that out.

[Desi]

Hey Guys,
Have been taking a back seat with the punting this last couple of days after some poor betting days this week...

But thought I would back a couple at Belmont today...here are some selections (take at own risk lol!)

R1 Top two with Metallic Storm killing them last start over 1000m but Yaya Lad runs well fresh (is forward after a good trial) and last start 2nd and PJ on board...see what the Storm can do...

R3 No7 Her Business...rattled in 1200m Belmont from the back to finish a close second to Snacking on a heavy track...extra 100m will help...will be short though...

R4 No4 Classic Chevron (a dual acceptor) goes well fresh and has won a trial but perhaps better to watch as Durrant might want her to get a run under her belt and then definitely worth backing next up...

R7 No3 Diamond Rhythm...like Diamonds run for 4th behind Urban Chill and shes back to her favourite distance and a good track...should be thereabouts...Mexican Mist the likely danger and favourite

R8 Between (3) Power Patrol and (9) Our Solid Bond for me both getting back to a suitable distance and finishing off strongly last start...Attractions and Urban Chill (this might be a little short but won last start 1650m strongly) will be favourites and dangers...

Good luck guys hope we can win some $$$$

[Desi]

Lol just saw the interim results for R1 mmm hows that for bad timing...

[saratoga samchaz]

Really Sportz? Imust have missed her while perusing the fields. Must be on Sunday as I looked very quickly. SHe probably will be ready if Frankel has her ready. The distance should be no problem as she has been running around the backside of Saratoga loose and getting quite fit on her own. LOL! Frankel denies this occured but it's out there.

[saratoga samchaz]

She's in Sportz! Your RIGHT. On Monday she is going from the 10 hole in the 1 1/16 mile Ballston Spa Breeder's Cup for $200,000. A full field of F+M's are in this MellonTurf Course fixture. The inner turf at Saratoga is perenially known as a closers or stalkers paradise even though the turns are very tight. It is shaped like a long, skinny oval but usually plays to come from behind types but lately it has been very speed favoring much to my chagrin as that is my main focus of the Saratoga meet but now I focus on inside speed on the inner. THe Mellon (outer) Turf COurse is usually a closers haven and is still mostly playing that way although it is possible to win on the lead. The outside post positions on either turf course can be quite hard to overcome unless you are a dead closer. How does Alinghi usually run? It could be tough from the 10 hole but she isn't in against the top notch females over here at all. I might have to back her for me mates in OZ!!!! Who's her sire (Encosta?)??? She has been training like wildfire since coming to the Bucolic setting of Saratoga. THe one problem she might have is the detention barn. New this year, all stakes horses have to spend the 6 hours pre-race in a very small confining faux-barn that has really been washing some horses out. Any good ones on tap tonight at Rosehil or Caulfield?

[Sportz]

She's definitely a 'come from behind' type. She has an explosive finish, and although she doesn't have to race that way, that's been her pattern in a lot of previous starts.

[Sportz]

Sorry guys. I just realised that I didn't post any tips for today. For some reason, I just forgot. Don't know what happened there. And I've had a VERY good day with my tips too, but that doesn't help you guys. Sorry. :o

[saratoga samchaz]

I like to hear that about Alinghi. I hope the turf course can get a little rain before Monday so it will have a little give to tire the front runners. I don't have the form on the race and it won't be available until Sunday so I'll let you know how it looks to set up. Frankel always has Brazilian horses running first time here. They don't always fire first here so maybe people will stay off Alinghi. Great sign that leading rider Edgar Prado takes the mount but he will draw support. I think a lot depends on how Frankel does Sat and Sun at Saratoga. he has a Brazilian 4yo Colt named Misto Quento by Royal Academy who has 6 starts in the US with 3 seconds and 1 third, He's due to crack the top spot here. I fhe flounders maybe people will think the same of "that foreign horse" Alinghi. How did Maykbe Diva pay so much????? Regal Roller burns everybody's money again. Who trained Alinghi in Australia Sportz?

[Sportz]

Lee Freedman. Here was her record in Australia: 16 starts, 10 wins, 3 2nds, 2 3rds. Prizemoney: $3,421,325


Prior to today, Makybe Diva had had 6 previous runs first up from a spell and never run a place. She'd also had 5 previous runs at this distance and never run a place. That's obviously what the punters and tipsters were going on. Personally, I thought if Regal Roller was off his game, then she would probably have too much class for the rest of them on a wet track which she loves.

[saratoga samchaz]

I kind of got the indication that Maykbe usually needs a race or two but didn't realize the distance ? but still for a champion to pay like that is a gift. Alinghi is dead game. What a record! Thanks for the info. Do you know why this whole ALinghi in America thing came about? Did they sell her?

[Merriguy]

Was wondering what had happened to you Sportz. You must be getting old!! (Had to use the exclamation marks --- never have found out how to us the smilies in the text of the posting.) Could have done with a little help too! Should have followed Tarbs. Did you see his results!!??

[saratoga samchaz]

I'm kicking myself for not gettng down on on Honest Politition last night. I even drove the 30 miles to the Philadelphia Turf Club because they always stay oopen later. I opened up a phone bet acct but they had already closed when I looked at the race. I get to the OTB and the doors are open, I walk up stairs, 10 minutes to post on the TV, Honest is 7-1, but there are now windows open. I watch the race, Hunter Hermitage looks to have an easy lead, uncontested with the 12 stalking, I'm sort of happy that I didn't get down, when the televisions all shut off.! At least these idiots at the Turf Clubs should have let me watch the end of the race. Get home and check the results, Voila-Honest Polititon $19 and change to win. I can't remember a string of shut outs like this, and pretty much all my own doings. Oh well. at least it's Travers Day at Saratoga!!!!!!!

[Sportz]

Was wondering what had happened to you Sportz. You must be getting old!! (Had to use the exclamation marks --- never have found out how to us the smilies in the text of the posting.) Could have done with a little help too! Should have followed Tarbs. Did you see his results!!??

No, I didn't see them. I'll have to have a look.

Anyway, sorry about that. I had a real good day today with my tips, but not much good claiming that now when I forgot to post them.


As for the smilies, you simply use a : followed immediately by other characters. For example:

: followed by ) gives you :)

: followed by ( gives you :(

: followed by D gives you :D

: followed by o gives you :o

They'll do for starters.

[saratoga samchaz]

ALINGHI has been installed as the 3-1 morning line favorite in the grade 3 Ballston Spa BC on Monday(US). Her main competition comes from Que Puntualt trained by Angel Penna,Jr. who has quitely been enjoying a solid turf meet at the Spa. Que Puntualt breaks outside of Alinghi from post 11 (or 12?). Interesting race.

[Sportz]

Haven't had much of a look at Sunday's races yet, but here are some that I picked out for Werribee:

Race 5-2 Bodacious Harmony & 7 Millie Rose
Race 6-1 Airstream & 9 Overlord
Race 7-1 Mock & 5 El Segunda
Race 8-1 Correct Amoondo & 5 Orange Free State
Race 9-4 Canary Islands & 3 Amusing Twist

Be back later with some final selections.

[TheAvenger]

Please do!


Regards,

Glenn

[bigwaz]

bigwaz's lucky(or not!) tip of the day

Werribee R5. 15 Quipster

[Chuck]

Ballina:
Race 3: 4 Sovereign Rush (4,3,8,10,2)
Race 4: 1 Water Buffalo (1,5,6,7,3)
Race 6: 3 High Ovtace (3,1,7,2,6)
Race 7: 1 La Charriere (1,9,6,5,2)

Werribee:
Race 2: 2 Maneroo Lue (2,3,5,1,7)
Race 7: 12 Light of Prosperity (12,2,1,6,5)
Race 9: 4 Canary Islands (4,8,10,9,5)

Sunny Coast:
Race 4: 3 Prince of Ashes (3,4,5,1,2)
Race 6: 1 Temple of Isis (1,10,2,3,5)
Race 7: 3 Stepping (3,2,1,5,4)

Good Luck

[maverick1993]

Hey guys..some thoughts for today..
Sunny Coast
Regal Secret, Gina Shay, Stepping ,Far Far Away
Ballina
Water Buffalo, Rebellete, Active Combat
Kalgoolie
Fred Conquistrador, She Can Tango, Miss Copycat

Good luck all .. :)

[Sportz]

Geelong
Race 5 - 2 BODACIOUS HARMONY & 7 MILLIE ROSE (2,7,15,6 - 3,1)
Race 6 - 1 AIRSTREAM & 9 OVERLORD (1,9,5,6 - 3,11)
Race 7 - 5 EL SEGUNDO & 1 MOCK (5,1,12,4 - 10,2,6)
Race 8 - 5 ORANGE FREE STATE, 6 Graciously, 1 Correct Amoondo (5,6,1,2 - 7,3)
Race 9 - 4 CANARY ISLANDS, 7 For Me To See, 10 Ravishing Choice (4,7,10,5 - 8,9)

Warren
Race 1 - 4 BOOGIE FEVER & 8 DESERT FAIRY (4,8,3,6 - 5,2)
Race 5 - 1 TOWERING SUCCESS, 4 Lightning Johann, 3 Ajaybenza (1,4,3,2 - 7,6)
Race 6 - 12 SCOTTISH OPERA, 4 Lackadosh, 1 Opal Chip (12,4,1,2 - 3,5)
Race 7 - 6 HELIOGRAPH, 1 Linhurst, 5 Factwina (6,1,5,2 - 16,7,4)

Ballina
Race 2 - 5 MISS BEACHLEY & 7 TAHITIAN PRINCESS (5,7,12,1 - 13,9,3)
Race 6 - 1 BEAMER, 3 High Octave, 2 Legal Brief (1,3,2,7 - 8,6)

Sunshine Coast
Race 1 - 8 CONDAMINE BEAUTY, 9 Lady Monashee, 2 Golden Dollars (8,9,2,7 - 1,5)

[luv2bet]

Got a couple for today.
Sunshine coast.
**My best tycoon. If its form of late doesnt stack up well for this Ill be very surprised. Loves this distance and would think they will come for pablo diablo and stepping which may result in 4-5s for the tycoon. Confident here.

CASTERTON
**Freight carrier. Liked the way he won last start at mildura and should go on with it. No world beaters in this field pretty open race, should get e/w odds about him.

Havnt been around much lately, work commitments, see if we can kick off with some winners.

Good luck to all...

[Sportz]

Not a good start for me. Probably should have just kept to Werribee. :o

[luv2bet]

Sorelli looks very good value at $5 in the 5th at casterton.

[Sportz]

Hope things improve quickly. The tips are going shocking so far.

[Sahasastar]

Here's a few to try, maybe more later :

Warren
3 - 2 Miss Watanabe

Suncoast
4 - 2 Sammy

[Sportz]

All these damn 2nds are killing me!!! :(

If it wasn't for quinellas and any2s, I'd be having a hopeless day.

[Sahasastar]

Here's a few to try, maybe more later :

Warren
3 - 2 Miss Watanabe


1st $17.60, $4.50 :)

[Sportz]

Wow!!! Well done! Great tip there.

[Sportz]

Have to apologise for my tips. Only confident about Werribee today, so that's where I should have stayed. I've let the side down. :o

[maverick1993]

Got a couple for today.
Sunshine coast.
**My best tycoon. If its form of late doesnt stack up well for this Ill be very surprised. Loves this distance and would think they will come for pablo diablo and stepping which may result in 4-5s for the tycoon. Confident here.

Good luck to all...


well done luv2 ..good tip,,,not often i get a 1st 4 a couple of times and still end up losing for the race.. :(
i had stepping ..but he didnt finish off..

[maverick1993]

Crap day for me...water buffalo the shining light with a nice tri..and got a few collects here and there..
She can tango or Gina Shay would of been real nice,,, oh well not to much damage...bring on tomorrow ..
cant keep a good man down ;)
(Famous last words)

[rabbitz]

Got a couple for today.
Sunshine coast.
**My best tycoon. If its form of late doesnt stack up well for this Ill be very surprised. Loves this distance and would think they will come for pablo diablo and stepping which may result in 4-5s for the tycoon. Confident here.

CASTERTON
**Freight carrier. Liked the way he won last start at mildura and should go on with it. No world beaters in this field pretty open race, should get e/w odds about him.

Havnt been around much lately, work commitments, see if we can kick off with some winners.

Good luck to all...

Went to the track today,my mate is a part owner in MY BEST TYCOON
we had a huge day
as well as the prize money got the tri,first four and treble (10 times)
Fantastic,next start will be in a few weeks in a apprentices cup race
cheers

[maverick1993]

well done Rabbitz ..great when you can cheer a horse over the line that you have a personal interest in..

thoughts for tomorrow
Gunnedah
*Fuji Kid at odds..like his last run..never got into it and looked full of running drops some weight and is racing aginst mostly the same lot....thought Danzavite at odds aswell in the same race looked promising..and the extra distance looks to suit....the toppy Lady Hula to be kept safe but looking at some value here...
*Classy planet..just needs to start well to be in right in this..good last couple of runs..i think has bulletproof billy's measure and he might be fav here with desktop magic the danger..

will concentrate on these 2 races.,, and really target them with tris ect aswell..

Port Maquarie
*Dusty Daniel..got the bad barrier here,,but will be nice e/w odds..has been therabouts of late will forgive him his last run..,,no weight and in an open race could surprise..i dont let outside barriers worry me to much in these type of races..he can just bowl along out wide and try and slot in....if not ,,atleast your not caught up with alot of inexperienced horses..
*Mr Monde..missed his last win at lismore...thought he looked smart in his barrier trial and have been watching him..goes up in distance but after looking at his last win and his previous runs it looks like the longer the better..
*Lord Nedyim..in good form..super run last start..and the run before..got the inside with the good jock. not to worried about the drop in distance either..,,hard to hold out...not sure on the value though..

Just the 5 races for me tomorrow...real confident on getting some good value here...
good luck all :)

[tarbs]

Like your thinking Mav,

think I'll follow you today...

Lets hope for luck!

[tarbs]

Like anything in the last for the treble? Or just go: 2 x 2 x field?

[Sportz]

Looks like I've chosen a few different ones to Mav. Probably not a very good idea. Anyway, not going to risk much today, but here are the races I'm thinking about:

Gunnedah
Race 1 - 13 LADY AMELIA, 11 Chyna Success
RACE 2 - 2 MR SHINJUKU & 3 FOX'N ON
Race 3 - 3 STORMCAT STRIKER, 1 Super Langfuhr
Race 4 - 5 Blowadogoffachain, 10 Jawideva & 12 Owatonna (5,10,12,6 - 11,13)
Race 5 - 1 LADY HULA & 3 LOVELY LEGS (1,3,5,7 - 8,9,2)
Race 6 - 1 BULLETPROOF BILLY & 7 CLASSY PLANET (1,7,4,2 - 6,3)
Race 7 - 3 SIRENESE, 7 Auchmeddan (3,7,5,1 - 6,9)

Port Macquarie
Race 5 - 1 SUPERFICIAL, 7 Southern Drake
Race 7 - 1 LA REDOUTE, 3 Peggy Louisa (1,3,4,11 - 8,12)

[Stix]

Horsh
R5 -2 On Alert
R6 - 12 Buttoutt

R8 - 5 Captain Buckly (Roughie)

Pt M
R2 - 1* Windoon
R5 - 1* Superficial

R3 - 8 Reliable Asset (Roughie)

Gunn
R5 - 1 Lady Hula
R7 - 3 Sirenese

R1 - 8 Bella Copelia (Roughie)

[Sportz]

Race 4 - 5 Blowadogoffachain, 10 Jawideva & 12 Owatonna

Pity the poor racecaller if these 3 do fight out the finish.

[Stix]

Gunn
R5 - 1 Lady Hula
R7 - 3 Sirenese

R1 - 8 Bella Copelia (Roughie)
Good Start.... R1 - 8 Bella Copelia (Roughie) 2nd $4.70

[xptdriver]

Looks like a favs day today.... glad Im not swinging a bag

[maverick1993]

Like anything in the last for the treble? Or just go: 2 x 2 x field?

Sirenese looks good in the last leg Tarbs ....will go wide in the first , 2 in the 2nd and Sirenese to bring me home..

[xptdriver]

well Maybe not...Bentoca 15 bucks kinda put an end to that

[luv2bet]

wow, couldnt believe the odds for my best tycoon yesterday, sensational.
GUNNEDAH
**Desktop magic. Been getting better with each run, just missed out last time has a lot in his favour here. Great record at track and distance, drawn well and has the apprentice on board with the claim. Should be flying home in what looks to be a reasonably open field. $5 or better would be nice.

HORSHAM
**Regal rapt. Won a stack on him of late so wont be sacking him just yet, will be ignoring his last run. Back to a much more suitable distance here and if he reproduces the form he has shown will bolt it in.

Might have a look at elite ted as well if theres some value there.

Good luck to all....

[maverick1993]

well done Stix..nice place divie with reliable asset.... go the roughies :)

[maverick1993]

well done sportz..stormcat striker at backable odds..wish i went the tri though..

[maverick1993]

what a ride on Kouneli by little Miss Olsen ..so well balanced and beautiful hands....thought Lord Nedym would of shared the lead with her ..on the inside but just wasnt quick enough..
She gets a few more rating points from now on..

[maverick1993]

its just a battle between Robbo and Ryan at Gunnedah .. .. who'll win ?

[Sportz]

The punters. :D

[maverick1993]

Robbo's ahead on 3 ..ryan close up on 2.. maverick struggling :)

[Sportz]

Even though I posted Lady Hula and Lovely Legs as my picks for Race 5, I just had to change and put Berwick and Lovely Legs on instead. Seriously, you just can't beat those two jockeys at the moment, so the odds on Berwick were too good to pass up!

Don't know about the next race though. Ryan's got a good show on Bulletproof Billy, but I'm not sure if Dancing Stag is up to winning???

[xptdriver]

The next at horsham... at current prices 1 and 3 are value IMO

[maverick1993]

think everyone had them in the tris...just didnt have that friggin Shock tactics..and what a nice tri it was :(

[xptdriver]

The next at horsham... at current prices 1 and 3 are value IMO

I will woohoo that one mav at 7 bucks only backed the 1.. the 3 got in at the death to under the price we wanted ($3.3)

[xptdriver]

IMO 3 8 and 2 are all ok value in the next at Port...the fav is a bit unders

[Sportz]

Well done XPT.

Pity I didn't see that until it was too late! :(

[xptdriver]

I might put the cue in the rack now 27 bucks that one paid

[maverick1993]

well done X ..knew it was an open race but missed that one..heaps of value in these races but your just have to find the right roughie..

[xptdriver]

The next Gunnedah doesnt seem to be much value anywhere,,, the 1 is about right 4 is unders as is 7 .. the 8 may be worth a nibble

[maverick1993]

well blowadogoffachain ..did Mav just tip a winner ????? oh my god yes he did...its a friggin miracle..

woohooo ..now i'm back..still alive in the treble ...ahead but only just ..
go Sirenese :)

[Sportz]

Hmmm, not bad. Got the first 4 in my top 4 picks, but I don't suppose it was all that hard. They appeared the obvious ones.

[xptdriver]

Jeez the last at Horsham is tough looking ...affair any thoughts?

The winner of Race 6 a Gunnedah (7) got out at towards the end... I probably should have watched it a bit closer I needed $5.5 and it paid $5.3.. when I posted it was about 4.6 on the TAB thats why I called it unders

[xptdriver]

SNIPPED
go Sirenese :)

Gday mav


thats one of the trainers runners... good luck with it

[Sportz]

Well, I had 1 & 7 both rated at $3.50, so I thought it was okay value.

Last at Horsham is tough. Don't know that I'll be betting, but perhaps you could think about Miss Minouche. Ran 2nd last start to Colonial Lass which won very impressively in Sydney on Saturday. Plenty of chances though. VERY tough!

[xptdriver]

On present prices for Horsham the 4 is overs 3 is overs 9 and 11 are also overs... This looks a very volatile race to me

[xptdriver]

Well, I had 1 & 7 both rated at $3.50, so I thought it was okay value.

Last at Horsham is tough. Don't know that I'll be betting, but perhaps you could think about Miss Minouche. Ran 2nd last start to Colonial Lass which won very impressively in Sydney on Saturday.

*sigh* the now famous Colonial Lass LOL

[Stix]

Captain Buckley.... @ $10.50 Likes a good track....

[maverick1993]

fantastic 1st 4 considering though..$380 ?? and even the tri was good...
i think everyone knew classy planet was my tip so they jumped off or left it out of their excotics ;)
really went hard on the excotics today ..and thank god i did :)

[xptdriver]

managed to find the winner at $6.20 ..... that'll do nicely...

[Sportz]

:eek: You got the trifecta!

Both the Radiotab tipsters picked 4 to win. Why was it $7.30? Great value!

[xptdriver]

Gunna leave Port alone I think.... I dont rate the fav.. so i obvioulsy have missed something... its a redoute... that is what is frightening me off might take the fav with 5 3 6 8 and 12 in multis .... dunno tho

[xptdriver]

:eek: You got the trifecta!

Both the Radiotab tipsters picked 4 to win. Why was it $7.30? Great value!

Gdya sportz...

that was one of those nasty little class 2 races, that if a bloke had sense he would leave alone.... got lucky that time is all... there were a lot of chances in te race I had them 4/1 the field

[Sportz]

I thought she was pretty good. :)

[maverick1993]

what a win..and a nice type to,,, see it quiken ..i agree with the race caller ..something special alright

[Stix]

On present prices for Horsham the 4 is overs 3 is overs 9 and 11 are also overs... This looks a very volatile race to me

Yeah Right X !!............. "volatile" my bum........

[Stix]

La Redoute........ went and ruined it for everyone.......won't get a decent price again in a hurry !

[Sportz]

what a win..and a nice type to,,, see it quiken ..i agree with the race caller ..something special alright

Hmmm, just a bit too late to include her in the Fantasy Racing comp for September.

[xptdriver]

I was right to be scared off... I sometimes bugger a race up like that and can't get a handle on it... tho no harm done

[xptdriver]

I thought she was pretty good. :)


U were right

[maverick1993]

seems everyones on Sirenese....i'm worried about that Ryan fella though..
treble will pay alright aswell.. ..to short for me to back outright but the treble will do nicely ..go robbo :)

[xptdriver]

The last at Gunnedah has 3 hopes in my opinion...

5 3 and 7 of those at the moment the 5 is value.. tho big Harley has just tipped it to win...... I would want $3.2 for the 5 $3.5 for the 3 and $8 for the 7... I dont think there is anything else there that can win... any thoughts? I know mav is keen on the 3 and I hope it gets up for him

[maverick1993]

woooofriginhoo :)

[Sportz]

Easy win.

[Stix]

Horsh
R5 -2 On Alert
R6 - 12 Buttoutt

R8 - 5 Captain Buckly (Roughie)

Pt M
R2 - 1* Windoon
R5 - 1* Superficial

R3 - 8 Reliable Asset (Roughie)

Gunn
R5 - 1 Lady Hula
R7 - 3 Sirenese

R1 - 8 Bella Copelia (Roughie)Horsh
R5 -2 On Alert UNPL
R6 - 12 Buttoutt UNPL

R8 - 5 Captain Buckly (Roughie) UNPL

Pt M
R2 - 1* Windoon WON $1.80 $1.30
R5 - 1* Superficial 2ND $1.10 (Robbed)

R3 - 8 Reliable Asset (Roughie) 3RD $4.10

Gunn
R5 - 1 Lady Hula UNPL
R7 - 3 Sirenese WON $2.50 $1.30

R1 - 8 Bella Copelia (Roughie) 2ND $4.70

OK day thanks to the percieved ("value") roughies.....

They say you can't eat odds..... but some times it saves your "bacon"

[xptdriver]

woooofriginhoo :)


Good for you mav


been a pretty fair day for me... just taking overs where they present... Going to be a slow day on SKY tomorrow LOL WFarm and Sale.. what will they show/ Days of Our Lives?

It's been fun last hour or so

[maverick1993]

$122 ..not bad at all..usually go twice as hard on my trebles ..just lost confidence with the loss yesterday..should stick with the stake ..lesson learnt..
great day :)
everyone got winners today....trifectas, 1st4's ,trebles,,plus some nice little collects thanks to sportz, stix and hawkeye ..
drinks on me :)
but no celebration ..seems silly to be to happy with whats happening across the pacific,,,,
will donate a percentage of winnings to red cross ..they'll be real busy in the next few days..

maybe we all should....anything helps..

[Sportz]

Gunnedah
Race 1 - 13 LADY AMELIA, 11 Chyna Success
RACE 2 - 2 MR SHINJUKU & 3 FOX'N ON
Race 3 - 3 STORMCAT STRIKER, 1 Super Langfuhr
Race 4 - 5 Blowadogoffachain, 10 Jawideva & 12 Owatonna
Race 5 - 1 LADY HULA & 3 LOVELY LEGS
Race 6 - 1 BULLETPROOF BILLY & 7 CLASSY PLANET
Race 7 - 3 SIRENESE, 7 Auchmeddan

Port Macquarie
Race 5 - 1 SUPERFICIAL, 7 Southern Drake
Race 7 - 1 LA REDOUTE, 3 Peggy Louisa

Not bad. And I actually did have the winner of Race 5 at Gunnedah too, because I switched to Robbo's mount there. Won't claim that one though.

I also had a small bet on those ones that XPT mentioned in the last at Horsham, so 10 races for 10 wins for me today. Most of them pretty short, but still a good day.

[maverick1993]

2.50 about Sirenese ended up being fairly backable...snooze you loose...shouldn't be greedy though..
bring on tomorrow :)

[maverick1993]

Quiet day tomorrow..just have a couple.
Sale
*Flying Ed ...funny race this one...Ed runs well first up ..and ran some very handy races last prep although this is alittle shorter than his best most of these are in the same boat...Tal jak can run well fresh aswell but likes it longer..the old fella down the bottom Prospecters Dream was only a couple off party Pie last start and atleast has fitness.. ..Ed has little weight and first up last time was just behind the handy Mr Magoo....a few of the others can run a handy race here and there..but Ed likes this time of year and might be some value..might be some value in the excotics here aswell

*Sabre..watched this horse chase home Very Canny up here ..was a good honest run..he's jumping 600m in distance here and i think this will suit..this boy is out of a decent Mare who won over distance ..actualy a listed race in town and has also produced Hotter Than Hell the more than handy jumper trained by Eric Musgrove..So you'd think being by Octagonal that the extra distance is in his favour..has a more than handy Jockey on board,,this kid has talent and has been killing them at the Gold Coast for ages..the toppy the only danger..(eladnicul a horse Sabre beat easily last time has come out and won a jumps trial and a maiden over 2000m since)

Like Clontaago at warrick Farm...last couple have been good.got into a bit of bother last run when fav,but looked to have plenty of running left in him..,seems the jump in distance suits...hes up in class here..but its not a tough race..Beadman takes the mount which means it will be way unders...if by some miracle its at e/w odds i might be tempted but if Beadmans won a few by then ,its the usual story....
He's such a brilliant rider and you'd think you would want him on your horse..but he just kills the price,,,especially midweek,,,Railings on Saturday payed way more than expected so you just never know..

Good Luck all :)

[tarbs]

Will play with yours tommorrow Mav, love the analysis

Missed the treble today a Gunna, got greedy, went 10 units instead of 5 and missed first leg. Had 3 a standout in last and your 2 in middle leg.

Just a quick couple for tommorrow as Im working back late tonight so probably wont have time to post tommorrow. I dont really like much but....

Sale 5: 3 main ones for tri, quin ex etc are Arunee, Bahemian Rhapsody, Prospectors Dream in first 3 then Tal Jack and Kendalay
Sale 6: Put Our Alakbar in exotics at odds
Sale 7: Bakula
Sale 8: A tad cool

Wawick Farm

Race 2: Gonski from Port Peru
Race 3: Mythique E/W
Race 4: Starbeel

Sorry cant post reasons but best are probably Gonski/Port Peru and Bakula

Cheers!

[Sportz]

Geez, some top horses for a Tuesday!!! But it means not much value in some races unfortunately. In race 2 at Warwick Farm, we see the reappearance of Gonski. He could be something very special and his trainer says today is just like a barrier trial, so that shows you his opinion. He has been off the scene for a fair while now though and he's likely to be at a ridiculously short price ($1.10-$1.20). He'll probably win, but if he is to be beaten, Port Peru should be the one. I tipped her last time and she was very impressive. Perhaps she might be worth a gamble or maybe play around with multiples.

Sale Race 1: 12 VIVA LA COVERT
Viva La Covert was a top run behind the promising Specialstarz last start and looks a great each way chance here. Costalots and Jack's Palace could be the dangers.

Sale Race 5: 3 ARUNEE & 4 KENDALAY
I've been waiting for Arunee. It was a good run first up and he's unbeaten 2nd up. Just short of his ideal distance here but he's a top chance. Kendalay has a brilliant record at this track.

WFm R4 - 1 SPIKES & 4 PATCHED UP.
Spikes is highly promising. Still yet to win, but 3 top runs so far against much stronger opposition than this. Hopefully set for a good spring. Patched Up's form is excellent for this though. A good effort for 2nd behind God's Own in strong Saturday class last start and a top chance here.

Here are the races I'll be looking at. Hoping for some value.

Sale R1 - 12 VIVA LA COVERT, 4 Costalots, 8 Jack's Palace (12,4,8,11 - 2,3)
Sale R2 - 7 HIGH COSTALANA, 2 Bally Legend, 1 Appellant (7,2,1,3 - 9,8)
Sale R5 - 3 ARUNEE & 4 KENDALAY (3,4,1 - 8,2)
Sale R8 - 4 ITSAMONTY & 6 A TAD COOL (4,6,3,2 - 10,9)

WFm R3 - 1 SUN SONG & 9 DEL MAR (1,9,3 - 4,2)
WFm R4 - 1 SPIKES & 4 PATCHED UP (1,4,3 - 2,8)
WFm R5 - 5 ROSE OF KINGS, 4 Glossy Games, 3 Genuinely (5,4,3 - 1,8)
WFm R6 - 1 PUBLICITY STUNT, 10 CLONTAAGO (1,10,3,4 - 2,5)
WFm R7 - 10 POLICY, 1 Flaming, 4 Croatian Prince (10,1,4,5 - 7,8,6)

[tarbs]

Might have alittle something on the Testa Rossa in the first Sante Devote...

[Sportz]

The money seems to be for Aznavour in R1 at Sale.

[Sportz]

Yahooooo! :D

What an incredible price thanks to the plunge!!!

[Stix]

Great start Sportz...

[Sportz]

Can't believe it. I thought it should be about $2.50 on the basis of it's last run!!!

[Sportz]

Well, High Costalana was a ridiculous price, so I left that race alone apart from a couple of any2 bets.

It's amazing what a difference it makes when you look for value. I considered Viva La Covert a stronger winning chance than High Costalana, so I wasn't going to take such a short price!

[Stix]

What the hell just happened then?..........Gonski?

Was listening to radio and sounded like Port Peru put him in the stands !!

[Sportz]

Well, there you go! War Of The Worlds?

Gonski goes down at ridiculous odds and Port Peru drifted out taking him with her. Did anyone see the race? Was it Port Peru's waywardness that cost Gonski, or was he just plain disappointing???

[maverick1993]

no excuses Sportz ..he was dissapointing..it was just alittle bump..he had heaps of time to recover....Bowman had alrady given him a crack with the whip way before then,,he knew he was traveling ordinary..

[BJ]

$350,000 traded on the race on BF. More than 300 on Gonski...

I had $125 on it but didn't see the race... Bloody pay tv..

The free hit I had on War of the Worlds to bring in $220, more than made up for it though....

[Sportz]

Damn! I hate that!!! Last night as soon as I saw the fields, I immediately picked out Arunee and Tal Jack for Race 5 at Sale. But then this morning I've looked at it a bit closer and seen Kendalay's excellent record at the track and I've gone and switched them. How dumb! :o

I did actually manage to make a handy profit on the race, but it would have been nice to tip the winner for you guys.

[maverick1993]

lot of late money on Starbeel here in the next ...after the impressive trial the other day..
might get Spikes out to something backable..

Easy trifecta at Sale..needed old Ed to run a place to make it worthwhile...think hes still running :) get a tri 5 times and still end up behind..

hoping for another treble today...going 3,4/3,4,12/4 ..

[maverick1993]

Damn! I hate that!!! Last night as soon as I saw the fields, I immediately picked out Arunee and Tal Jack for Race 5 at Sale. But then this morning I've looked at it a bit closer and seen Kendalay's excellent record at the track and I've gone and switched them. How dumb! :o

I did actually manage to make a handy profit on the race, but it would have been nice to tip the winner for you guys.


can't tip them all Sportz.. :) if you could we'd be millionaires

[tarbs]

Hope starbeel can get over the line here for me, struggling a little. If not I'm all in with my tueday pot on Our Alakbar and Mav's pick Sabre. Might save a little for my selection a tad cool if I get the current price, and then have a little go on our blackbooker Boys of summer, although I dont like it backing up so much.


Overall a little boring though today. Might go for a run and do some cleaning up out in the yard/shed instead

[Sportz]

Bad luck guys. :o

Personally, I thought Patched Up's form around God's Own pointed to a win here.

[maverick1993]

another hot pot loses ...the bookies are cleaning up.. ..if its odds on its not on ..good advice but it seems not not many people listen to it..

[Sportz]

Mav,

I've got Spikes in my Fantasy stable. I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Wenceslas Square. :D

[tarbs]

Interesting to see Luv2bet's blackbook pick 'chilli smoo' is nominated in about 4 races this weekend in adelaide. Looks like Jolly is going to really find a race well suited to him this week and he may well be the tip of the week. I will be on it in a big way I reakon because when Jolly does this he's generally spot on!

[TheAvenger]

Great tipping, Sportz. I'd like to play some more, but its past midnight here, and an old man must sleep.


Regards,


Glenn

[BJ]

another hot pot loses ...the bookies are cleaning up.. ..if its odds on its not on ..good advice but it seems not not many people listen to it..


Especially if you can get $2.50 with the bookies.....

[Sportz]

Spikes was $2.20 on Unitab. I rated him and Patched Up equal favs at $3.00.

[maverick1993]

Mav,

I've got Spikes in my Fantasy stable. I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Wenceslas Square. :D

lol i'd rather have Spikes than Gonski Sportz...it wasnt a bad run ..he'll win a few this prep..

2.50 about Spikes on course ?? even i would of jumped on that.

[tarbs]

anyone here ever thought of laying a few horses on Betfair? I recently have, and have been working on situations where favorites win/lose etc and think theres so good cash to be made. The key is probably a large balance to cover largish wagers, although if you could stay in the game for a week of so without going broke, you should at least be guarenteed a long term profit of up to 20-30%

[tarbs]

sale treble:

3,5,8/field/6 x 1 unit

[BJ]

lol i'd rather have Spikes than Gonski Sportz...it wasnt a bad run ..he'll win a few this prep..

2.50 about Spikes on course ?? even i would of jumped on that.

Don't know about on course but IAS didn't get under $2.5, opened about $3.... I got $2.8

[maverick1993]

Tarbs ..i've been looking at Betfair for awhile now....has alot of merit ..
actually i could make a stack laying my midweek tips :)
I see alot of false favs around on the Saturday..hyped up by media tipsters ect ...easy money to be made if you've got the smarts..

[maverick1993]

your still alive tarbs in the treble...wish i saw that 5 you selected ...knocked me out of it...all hopes today now on itsamonty :(

[tarbs]

didnt rate it with the other three, missed by a nose, suppose you just roll with the punches. You have to follow your ratings and strong tips or else your all over the shop and lose in the long run, I rarely ever put in $2-$3 fav's in trebles (especially on tuesday with small pools - large TAB commissions), if I do I have rated them highly and as a standout with a ruffie and increase the bet.


Would have been nice though to get the 5 up in first leg - had field in 2nd and confident with a tad cool in last - if it gets up with bella and pay's well I will be a little disappointed but it is tueday and these things seem to happen more early in week, looking forward to tommorrow in Adelaide, very confident with a lot of these. Probably wont look anywhere else unless someone out there has a special! (leave me out of sydney though!)

Restrospect is a beautiful thing....I'm dreaming now!

[tarbs]

You beaut...


didnt eveen look at results I was so disgusted!
Now it could be a good day!

Thanks MAv, about to switch off radio and Computer and go for a run. Might crack open a coldie now an settle in and enjoy!

[tarbs]

Sorry Mav, I only posted it just before jump (after I had placed bet) sorry about that but I did actually think Our Alakabar was best pick.

now i wish i doubled my bet.....
but then again I did only rate a tad cool a 3.70 favourite, so it is more open than my treble suggests, Must admit though I'm confident ( and would love a real ruffie in the next!) but generally miss trebles by a whisker, but thats OK in third leg, hate going out in the first!

[Sportz]

Sorry Tarbs. Deleted my post when I saw the final result. I got fooled by the call just like you. :o

Good luck with your treble. If an outsider gets up in the middle leg, perhaps you can have a saver on something in the last leg.

[maverick1993]

Clontaago ..$6 ?? the beadman factor again

[tarbs]

Didnt post this originally, but given track bias in warwick farm brings a couple right into it:

Race 7: Leave out the 1 now, think it brings the 2 and 4 right into it with 3 right behind. They all like to race on pace, and a dollar short is best pick at value from the 2 with 3 right behind. The 7 horse also likes to race handy

Race 8: Alot of pace! Who knows who will lead? I like the 6,7,8 from the 1 - they all should challenge for lead. 8 on top from 7 then 6 and 1.

I will take the double here a few times, value I think:

2,3,4 - 6,7,8 - may put the one in final leg depending on price/ pool size etc

Will probably put in a straight out double as well : 4-8

But who knows in Warwick farm today! I hate track bias, because even the backmarkers try to push up due to instructions from owners etc.

[tarbs]

whooooo hooooo, come on a tad cool

[maverick1993]

lot of late money on Starbeel here in the next ...after the impressive trial the other day..
might get Spikes out to something backable..

Easy trifecta at Sale..needed old Ed to run a place to make it worthwhile...think hes still running :) get a tri 5 times and still end up behind..

hoping for another treble today...going 3,4/3,4,12/4 ..


that treble would be looking promising if the 4 in the first leg had a bigger nose... :(

go tarbs ..

[tarbs]

how confident are you with yours Mav in the next at Warwick farm?

Didnt include it, and missed its last run. Were you looking for better price?

[tarbs]

Mav


You had the 4 i have the 6 in the last leg. Given mine knocked out yours in the first leg, yours will probably knock out mine in the last! Thats usually the way it goes isnt it!

[maverick1993]

was hoping for atleast 10s ,,good last 2 runs..but does get back,,
Beadman might ride it diferently today though...open race this one ..

[Sportz]

Mav


You had the 4 i have the 6 in the last leg. Given mine knocked out yours in the first leg, yours will probably knock out mine in the last! Thats usually the way it goes isnt it!

I picked both of them.

Do you think you should have a saver on something?

[maverick1993]

IAs gave me 12's so i'll take it,,, come on beadman .... :)

[Sportz]

I hate track bias, because even the backmarkers try to push up due to instructions from owners etc.

Yeah, I originally picked 1 & 10 in the next race, but I'm not confident now!

[maverick1993]

I picked both of them.

Do you think you should have a saver on something?

lol you and your savers Sportz.....live fast die young is my motto :)

[Sportz]

Geez, I'd hate to have just one horse in the last leg and it goes down by a nose to your second selection and you miss out on a big div.

[maverick1993]

its ok when you have a Sirenese in the last leg :)

[Sportz]

Phew! Just got there! :)

[luv2bet]

See a blackbooker Ed posted is running in the 9th at sale Boys of summer. Its down a class from last run but has drawn wide. Over this journey shouldnt matter too much, currently well into double figure odds... worth a look in..

[Stix]

Nice work Sportz.....

exacta paid $70.... and the tri $1450

Well done..... again !

[tarbs]

Yeah, but only a little one Sportz.



My trebles are usually only smallish outlays, so a loss generally doesnt hurt too much, so will cover it with i think with the 2 e/w. Why is everyone tipping the 4? I must have missed something. I rated it about 6th best with a tad cool clearly on top from 2,3,5,8

I remember the first treble I got up was my biggest. Straight out at Victoria Park mid week meeting. Had what I thought were the 3 fav's - Herecles down the straight which paid $3, then one of Haye's horses in middle leg ($2.50). Finally It came to the 3rd leg I had old Frenzel Rhomb, who was paying $28 in a crappy staying event!!!!. Looking no chance on the turn he stormed home, treble paid $550 and I had it 10 times. Loved playing with them since, but generally only take one or two a month as they are probably the least profitable betting type offered by the tab unless you have some good mail.


approximate is $772 so hope it gets up.

[maverick1993]

Phew! Just got there! :)

that dam Golden girl spoiled the party ...

[tarbs]

good stuff sportz, so much for bias! although he did race handier than I thought.

Well done!

[luv2bet]

Just to through a spanner in the works I have South island rated on top at $4.50, with ollie cheval not far behind it.

[tarbs]

Race 7: Leave out the 1 now, think it brings the 2 and 4 right into it with 3 right behind. They all like to race on pace, and a dollar short is best pick at value from the 2 with 3 right behind. The 7 horse also likes to race handy


But who knows in Warwick farm today! I hate track bias, because even the backmarkers try to push up due to instructions from owners etc.

I put the 7 in as a chance but didnt put it in tri!
So much for the 1 being unders!

Bugger!

[Sportz]

Years ago, I used to take doubles and trebles all the time, but I just sort of went off them. Now I hardly ever take them. Often, when I look at the results at the end of the day, I realise that I could have cleaned up if I had taken them.

[maverick1993]

good luck tarbs .. i need Itsamonty to get me out of jail today...if he loses i undo all the good work of yesterday and i'm back to even for the week,,
may the better horse win :)

[tarbs]

All will be revealed shortly....

Definetely going for that run if I miss here!

[tarbs]

running now....

[maverick1993]

and were both down for the count... it had to happen...to much weight on our horses...bad luck tarbs..
back to scratch for the week,,..big day tomorrow ....time to get stuck in..
a whopping 70% loss today :( ouch ..
need a drink or 2

[tarbs]

typically, I backed the 2 which ran 4th at 15's....

[maverick1993]

running now....

another day like today and i'll be running to...with a couple of bookies right behind me ;)

[Sportz]

WFm R7 - 10 POLICY, 1 Flaming, 4 Croatian Prince (10,1,4,5 - 7,8,6)

I'm afraid that was a bit of a speculative tip on Policy there looking for value. But Flaming was obviously the one when it shortened in the betting like that. Got the first 4 in my first 5 tips. Did the same in Race 7 at Sale, but unfortunately didn't take one with number 10 on top. Wasn't that difficult to do though.

[Horse Whisperer]

Clontaago ..$6 ?? the beadman factor again

might be worth watching next time, got a long way back and finished just behind them.

[maverick1993]

might be worth watching next time, got a long way back and finished just behind them.

i agree ..against the bias ,,from way back made a stack of ground...hopefully beadman wont be on it next time and we get a price.

[luv2bet]

Tomorrow looks to be a great day on the punt, having the day off might head out for the balaklava cup, then again might stay home too many ales on a day like that....
One ill be having a LARGE go at is Covet in gold. Its a mates horse and there is a lot of confidence about, stokes has had it in the bullring and its fired up ready to run. In a big field I would expect juicy odds, it should take a sit just behind the pace and rally late. Will need to be ridden well as it doesnt like running through traffic, but am confident here..

Going through the tapes be back later with other standouts for me..

Big wednesday ahead!!!

[luv2bet]

Might have a good look at your tips 2morow Mav, they cant keep a good man down for long!!!!!!!!!!!

[maverick1993]

A few i like tomorrow..
Brissie
*Alana's Song (Lana Belle e/w), *Noble Gaze, *Prang (no's 6,12 safe)
*Tuscan Jazz (daimyo)
Balaklava
*Queen Catherine, *Gorilla Bisquit, *Toms Vision, *Enter the sandman,
*King's Arch and Pride Of Archway ..go Mick :) *Brakenbury Bill
Belmont
*Foxaround
Wyong
*Johan's Toy, *Sky Blitz, *Rostrum e/w
Sandown
*Steelworker, *Ranson Claim

I like the Balaklava Cup...with Micks runners you have Pride Of Archway who gets back but can run on strongly..,,and Kings Arch who should be prominent and give good sight..Civil has to be kept safe..and for the excotics OnaJeune, baraba Rd and radiant star all should be there somewhere...looks a real good trifecta 1st4 race if you go wide enough..
Brakenbury Bill with the blinkers and the good draw could surprise at odds..Toms Vision form around the Lady looks to strong..(poor old Lair) Gorilla Bisquit in this ordinary lot atleast has some good form good lst few runs..,,,queen Katherine has ability and has been backed strongly of late especially on course tells me its working well..
Brissie doesnt look easy early on...Alanas Song might be alittle short..Noble gaze with finally a good draw has a big show...Prang is in good form..last run when a mile back against the tempo was good,,the extra distance is a queery ..Special langfur might get the lead here and if the leaders are winning and with Stathi aboard could get the prize....Pager if ridden quietly could come over the top of them all..
fairly confident with my Wyong, Belmont and Sandown selections..
have to many selections ..limit 12 but scratchings and short prices usually cull a few..

Good Luck all.. :)

[maverick1993]

Might have a good look at your tips 2morow Mav, they cant keep a good man down for long!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope your right..having good and bad days,,,aslong as the good days are making up for the bad days alls good ;)
been really looking for value of late,, can be hard going and its easy to lose patience..
Have a few there tomorrow that should be real good odds especially at balaclava...good thing about the longshots is you only need to get 1 over the line to be ahead..

Good luck tomorrow Luv2 ... have a horse down there somewhere with Eric Musgrove that'll be over the jumps hopefully soon....will let you know when he's starting..

[tarbs]

Might have a go at it Luv2bet,

Good too know a few of you here have interests in a few horses. Racing gets too boring if you dont have more of an interest than punting. We have had a little bit of success of late with my old mans horses, actually we just retired one last week, Rumah Batik. She won six (2 in town) and her maiden at $96 a couple of years ago (what a day! - think we were the only ones on her!, in fact she always won at odds), she ran second a couple of weeks ago to Pipkin in town in her swansong. Only a smallish horse, you had to get her on her right day or else she was a b****! (and she needed the bull-ring as well Luv2 to be anywhere near her best!!). Good luck to her though, think she will have a great foal (she's visiting distant music) as she's so well conformed and correct.

And I think tommorrow another of my old mans horses, On Focus, should have her first foal to testa rossa (hence my liking to the testa's!) - will keep you's informed on how the little one goes if your interested. She was an exiting horse, won 4 stakes races at two before getting injured. She still holds the track record for 2yo at Cheltenham running I think 56.85 for 1000m.

But enough reminising! (they were the good old days!) lets look to balaclava tommorrow instead. Real storm here at the moment though, hope it doesnt persist or effect the track. Winds up to 100km/h can throw up some rough results!

Adelaide:

Brackenberry Bill: I think is close to a special with the long straight an lots of speed

Keytocache: owes me a stack but has heaps of ability, stiff comp
from...

Diceman: (could be the one - recently won a trial by 4 lengths so abviously fit first up) Obviously tiara dane rates very highly.

Adios Dapper - blackbooker

Toms Vision a special from 2,3,5,8,9

CUP:
On a Jeune: really like this horse, dont know where he will possie up though, a real risk.
Barraba Road should have every chance with Gatt/gate 1 so will be on him, Stamen to improve and flash home, and Royal Jade with Didham on board.

Brisbane:

Picabelle

Sandown:

Delvechio and Princess of oz qn ex (lots of pace though so beware - could set it up for Our guided missile)

Maggies Mate/ Ransons Claim qn ex etc

Test zone

Jestawinna

[Sportz]

Good to know a few of you here have interests in a few horses. Racing gets too boring if you dont have more of an interest than punting.

I don't think so.

[w924]

HI Mav,
Dont know if you managed to see Flying Ed and Sabre run yesterday...Flying Ed ran out of puff very early and Sabre pulled its way out of the race... Drawn 1 yet ran wide without cover .. jock couldnt get the horse to settle. Probably best to forget both runs..esp Sabre's. If the connections didnt want Sabre to win, they sure got their wish..in spades

Pride Of Archway is a cat LOL..I'm just sore because I can never catch it..1600m is about as short a distance as I would ever back it these days. Maybe today is its day..esp if at good odds..i'll never back it when short ever again.

Good Luck Maverick..sorry about yesterday..I had a whole week like that last week. Got absolutley caned! LOL

[Tenacious Spirit]

These popped up in my horses to follow:

Adios Dapper - balaklava
Amboise - Wyong
Don't say don't - belmont -
Questionable - balaklava
Ziti - Wyong

I don't know what to do today. I am getting flogged of late. My only saving grace was shannon bank on saturday, which i decided to back at the very last minute. The one and only ever last minuter to come off for me lol.

[luv2bet]

Few more thoughts for today.
Balaklava.
**Tigara. should be fitter now couple runs in and hasnt been far away. Drawn well and should be running on at the post.
**Barabba road. Followed this horse for a while and has been close enough last couple of runs, has been running on well. As above should be fitter and ready to go. Good tri first 4 race i would expect big divvies. Include on a juene, civil, roman arch, radiant star, ottobello.
**COVET IN GOLD........ go you good thing!! Big go on this..
**Amber flow in the last. Bit of value here. Liked its last run a lot, although coming 5th was charging home and only finished 2 lengths behind proscenium arch who will run favourite today. The extra 50 meters and the long straight puts amber flow right in this, may be overlooked by many and result in nice e/w odds.

Wyong
**The merry widow. Should be suited by this distance, will break through soon for a win, like the walter/boss combo.
**Onion, probably wont have a bet on this unless odds permit but this will be very hard to beat.

good luck to all....

[Sportz]

Some tough races today. Not very confident, and found it difficult to cut down the chances in most races. Will be taking it easy and just looking for value.

Eagle Farm
Race 7 - 3 CHASIN' TAIL, 1 Limarki, 5 Prang (3,1,5,11 - 9,12,2)

Wyong
Race 3 - 5 NATURAL DESTINY (5,4,1,2)
Race 4 - 1 MASTER STRATEGY, 5 Amboise (1,5,3,4)
Race 7 - 1 JOHAN'S TOY & 3 WILD QUEEN (1,3,2 - 4,5,12)
Race 8 - 2 CAPTAIN VENTURI, 8 Picture Show, 10 No Prisoners (2,8,10,1 - 7,9,14)

Sandown
Race 4 - 5 IL BACH & 7 TOMMIFRANCS (5,7,2 - 6,3)
Race 6 - 9 SONIC ROYAL, 8 Hillston Exchange, 6 Steelworker (9,8,6,2 - 7,10,4)
Race 7 - 1 DELVECCHIO, 2 Gunza Magilla, 7 Nicholas (1,2,7,4 - 3,10)
Race 8 - 3 SOLARIDE, 11 Nothin' Leica Win, 5 Die Trying (3,11,5,6 - 9,16,8)

Balaklava
Race 4 - 4 TIVATION & 7 COBBY PRINCESS (4,7,1 - 5,9)
Race 8 - 7 RADIANT STAR & 14 CIVIL (7,14,3,2 - 4,10,6)

Belmont
Race 5 - 2 SILVER ROLLS, 4 Major Key, 9 Talbot Bay (2,4,9,1 - 7,11)

[Sportz]

Race 4 - 4 TIVATION & 7 COBBY PRINCESS (4,7,1 - 5,9)


Not a good start. :o

[maverick1993]

thanks w924...the runs sounded to bad to be true,,Flying Ed has had leg problems maybe they've come back,,Sabre just dissapeared ..money around for it aswell,,,will be wary next start..haven't seen the runs yet but have the copy...

Sad day for me so far..My dog of 13yos just died this arvo..had a stroke,.,weird ?? never knew dogs could have strokes,,real sad because it was 1/2 paralysed and couldnt walk or anything..heartbreaking to see...

Then i log on to see Toms Vision and Alanas Song have both lost...hopefully get a few winners today...need to pay the vet bill...and they know how to charge..
Confident in the Cup..go wide with the excotics..any of these could bob up in this race..

[maverick1993]

Noble gaze is a start ...better than expected divie...tri paid heaps ???? and 1st4 ????? jesus .....wow ..??starting to feel alittle better :)

[maverick1993]

You beauty..:) good old Civil..finally pays back some of the cash he owes me...but kelstein ?????????????? dam if kings arch puts his nose in front ,,i'd i've got the 1st4 ,,

[Sportz]

Kicking myself. Gaju Chief is such a swimmer that I really thought it had a great chance today. I just thought 6, 8 & 9 would probably have a bit too much class. Anyway, did well with quinellas and any2s.

Civil was good too. Took an any2 bet with Civil from the field. Paid very well thanks to Kehlstein. Would have been a beauty to do your field trifectas, Mav.

[maverick1993]

yeah.missed the gravy train there..just got alittle greedy i think..should of kept it simple..
Got Foxaround :) 3 in a row.. can pay the bills..

Protest ??????????????????????????????????????????? maybe ??? who was 6th ??

[maverick1993]

I have chickaloo for 4th ...so if the protests upheld against Kelhstein and Kings Arch is 3rd and chickaloo is 4th ...woohooo alot of ifs and buts though..
what happens to the 5th horse ?? who was 5th ??

[Sportz]

Amazing odds on Limarki!!! :D

[maverick1993]

great odds if you had it,,,had Prang who just couldnt finish off,,,the extra distance was always a queery..

[maverick1993]

oh well...happy with the result ..cant get to greedy :)

[maverick1993]

Johan's toy..always to good .... :) not a bad tri a few times for good measure..
got the double with Civil at 21/1 ... happy days..

I agree Sportz..Delvechio on class alone should of been a moral...i just dont have the confidence i once had down there in Melbourne..

i've been surprised b the excotics today..the mona lisa 1st 4 was $180 ....i'm not complaing :) ..love carnival time ..theres all that ma and pa money in the kitty..

[Sportz]

Delvecchio was too good for them too. Easy winner.

[maverick1993]

Nice result in the last in Brissie :) ..happy with the 1st4 and trifecta ,,would have been huge if Tuscan Jazz got up ..but the place divie at $4 will do nicely....been a great day..
Might have something on Sleek and Swift who's won for me in the past..
also have Ransom Claim left for the day...
way ahead ,,huge...after a very emotional day its come at a good time..

that'll do me..12 races is my limit..5 good ones 7 bad ...
great day ..nice double to top it all off ,,,

hope you guys cleaned up...i know Mr Ed a fan of Civil would of..

[maverick1993]

Just a few thoughts for tomorrow,,
Rocky
*Cindy Kate,,faces her biggest test here..but i think she can do it..i havent a jockey for her yet but hopefully a clamier to make it that much easier for her..
Charlie is going to be tough to beat and is the only one i'm worried about..
Cindy was wide on a unsuitable surface last start so it would pay to forget it..
*Tara's Song..racing in fine form,.,made a stack of ground against the bias last start and the start before...the extra distance looks to suit....i like Regimental but was dissapointing last start,,but will be thereabouts though..
Wyong
*Radetzky March...this horse has been real good to me...cant wait to see it tomorrow...Macs Tune has been racing in good form and likes the track is the only one i'm worried about...
wont take anything short ...
*Empyreal...great run last start behind stormhill...top jockey on board..can race handy. lead or come from the back and race on any surface..very versatile....,Dancing daggers is flying but always seems to leave it to late...

only the 4 for me tomorrow..lately i've been following up good days with bad ones so im alittle gaurded ..

Good Luck all :)

[saratoga samchaz]

With ya on that Gaju Chief Sportz. The old first up, ain't ready, not today even though he likes it heavy thing got me as well, but only in theory as the Turf CLub shut me down again anyway. They are unreal. It's like you're inconveniencing them by betting in their shop. I didn't tell them to start taking Australia. If you offer it, you have to stay open. Once in a while I can understand, but they call last race early all the time (even on Fridays when we are getting your best racing!) I looked at that site with the duets but they don't want anything to do with Americans on there. I understand the legal gray area, but I'm sure I can find a place to take my Aussie action if the Turf Club doesn't want my hard earned money. I used to bet sports with Bowman International from Manchester, England (with a phone center in Maritius to avoid any legal wranglings) and they are extremely dependable but they don't take any horse racing except the big ones, and even that is fixed odds win wagering only. I'm sure I can find one though.

Tommifrancs came through for ya Sportz. Not much odds but a win..... Luckily my shutouts last night saved me money as my only winners would have been short(really loved Johnny Be Good at Sand-6/5 is so short though). If you know of any shops that will take American action let me know please. I'd rather play Australian for all the turf breeding and quality horses than some of our junk tracks that run at night here. I'll stay home and listen on the computer to the calls on the Aus. radio. I think that's bril anyway.

[gazman]

have you tried ,,,,,iasbet.com.......i think there the best here and they pay better than than two of the three totes all the time and allways put there markets up early,its also a easy site to get around.........
we have a fish called a saratoga over here they say its over a million years old.
hope that gets you some were.........cheers....gaz.........

[saratoga samchaz]

Good morning, Gaz. No kidding a fish called a Saratoga? What is it, a freshwater trout or a salt water fish? You know, Bob Baffert nicknamed Kentucky Derby winner and sire that I see often in OZ, REAL QUIET, The Fish! They're better not be any real quiet's running today! He never even tried the turf but he sure has a few turf runners over there. He's not even listed on VIRTUALFORMGUIDE.com as as a top 100 sire in Aus. I will look into the betting shop you mentioned thanks.

[w924]

Hi Mav, sorry to hear about your dog..yep they get just about every ailment that we humans get.

wathched the cup..had a bit on the pride of archway "cat" ...suckred in by those long odds...but it ran true to my expectations of it..maybe needs longer...or retirement lol

[Stix]

only the 4 for me tomorrow..lately i've been following up good days with bad ones so im alittle gaurded ..

Good Luck all :)
keep havin a crack Mav....

[Sportz]

Saratoga Samchaz,

Perhaps you can get in contact with The Avenger. He seems to have no trouble betting on Australian racing and he often gets very nice divs on our races.

Meanwhile, maybe you could take a look at these sites and see if you can sign up:
http://www.iasbet.com/site/racing/racingmain.aspx
https://racing.centrebet.com/index_callin.php?sport=9
http://www.sportingbet.com.au/uipub/racing.aspx

[TheAvenger]

For an American or Canadian, I recommend setting up an account and betting Australian on-line through either Brisbet.com or youbet.com. I have used both, and they are equally decent. As long as you have broadband, you can watch the races live. I am using Bris right now. Us North Americans have our own pool, so it does not affect betting in Oz. The beauty of it is as you learn to handicap Australian, and get the great tips from the folks on this forum, you will often get much better odds than they do, because of the relative lack of Aussie racing knowledge by your betting pool competition. I have gotten 30-1 on horses at only 5 or 6-1 in Australia. I watch an Australian betting site's tote board live every night, and bet as they do, frequently at a marvelous price. Good luck to you.


Regards,

Glenn

[saratoga samchaz]

Thanks for the info Venge and Sportz. I didn't realize Bris and Youbet took Aus but I guess it makes sense. I guess the time to get the real values are on weekends as the pools are a lot larger then. I was starting to think that the way to get the real value is bet through a couple of Aus spots and shop around as opposed to having to wait until the very last minute with the American pools to see the true values. I did set up, rather remewed my phonebet acct w/ Philly park last week but they close before Aus even starts and if you are a Delaware resident they won't let you bet NYRA tracks(Saratoga, Belmont, Aqueduct). It's crazy the rules they have. I'll probably be setting something up with a couple of places (Aus and US) if possible. I checked out IASbet and it looked excellent. I read the rules and conditions and it seems to be they stay purposely vague about the US and that's cool with me. They kind of hint that they do take US dollars and residents by explaining wagers and rules concerning US sports, even though I realize the punting savvy Aussies are known to throw down on the States and such. I actually was in the "business" over here for alot of my 40 years, on the right side if you know what I mean and was always trying to get this Aussie figure skater (Nah, he's cool as can be, with a hot wife) to bet, n his words "MERICAN FOOOOTBAAW! AY LOVE IT!" with me. It really sucks that this country is so politically correct and hypocritical that you can't even try to make a decent side buck. It's not like you aren't risking losing and the credit card companies charge a lot higher vig than 10%. I mean they get more than loan sharks! I will check out all those other sites as well. Thanks guys

[Sportz]

Wyong
Race 6 - 4 SKY RIGHT, 3 Diamonds'n'pearls, 2 Malita (4,3,2,6 - 7,5)
Race 7 - 5 MAC'S TUNE & 6 ON POTENTIAL (5,6,4,9 - 3,2)
Race 8 - 2 IRONGAIL & 1 DANCING DAGGERS (2,1,3,4 - 7,6,11)

Mornington
Race 1 - 12 VIAKALANI SMYTZER, 2 Berwick (12,2,3 - 11,5,4)
Race 2 - 13 TUNGSTEN JIM, 11 Silent Echo (13,11,6,12 - 1,5,4)
Race 5 - 2 INDICATES, 1 Lucky Benbara (2,1,3,7 - 4,5)
Race 8 - 10 BENKO & 12 KEJEN MISS (10,12,9,3 - 8,11)

Rockhampton
Race 4 - 3 ONE ALONE & 1 SMART GREEN (3,1,13 - 7,2,9,16)
Race 6 - 4 FROM THE TOP & 3 DEADLY CLANG (4,3,8 - 6,5,9,2)


Take care with race 2 at Mornington. I like Tungsten Jim, but there's a couple of first starters which could be okay. Watch the betting there.

[Sportz]

Mornington
Race 1 - 12 VIAKALANI SMYTZER, 2 Berwick (12,2,3 - 11,5,4)


What a shocking run from Viakalani Smytzer! :o

My 3rd selection won at nice odds, but I didn't even consider the horse that ran 2nd. Not a good start to the day.

[maverick1993]

Thanks W924....as you can see by my tips i'm very loyal to my stable,,,Lair , Grand Merlot,Tycoon rose are all testiment to that...
Kings Arch , Pride Of Archway and Civil are all horses i've been following this prep.....its hard for me when i have so many in the one race ..trifectas ect get hard like yesterday had every horse but Kehlstein...wanted to go over my stake but i'm disciplined nowadays as you have to be......

Like Cindy Kate today..wont know herself with that weight..St Spartica and Charlie are the dangers....would want 5's atleast..

Regimental and tara's song to fight it out....Regi might of needed that last run and should be improved ..tara really hit the line well last start...looking at backing both if the odds are good enough..

Mac's tune with radetzky looks alot better,,but theres mail around for him so he might end up being short...thought On Potential 8's in the paper excellent value..will work around these 2..

the cup looks a fight between Dancing Daggers and Irongail..but i'm hoping empyreal or Square one or even Wicked wizard can upset the apple cart ..
will back empyreal e/w and have a play with excotcs looking for value..

Dont mind Indicates at Mornington...
Good Luck all :)

[saratoga samchaz]

Sportingbet was extremely helpful on line and take US customers. And "LOST" i slike 2.50 for Best drama Emmy. A stone lock! George Bush and Tony Blair are quite the value for the Nobel Peace Prize at 101-1! I wouldn't take 1001-1.

[Sportz]

Mav,

You won't get 5s on Cindy Kate. She'll probably be around $3. Likewise On Potential won't be anywhere near 8s. It and Mac's Tune will probably be battling for favouritism around the $3.50 mark.

[Sportz]

Mornington
Race 2 - 13 TUNGSTEN JIM, 11 Silent Echo (13,11,6,12 - 1,5,4)


Ahh, that's better!!! Nice win and nice trifecta. :)

Shows the value of backing more than one horse in the race. I liked Tungsten Jim today, but he was VERY disappointing. Nice win by the backup selection.

[Sportz]

A few races I'm looking at for Northam:

Race 2 - 4 MAVERICK'S HONOUR & 10 OUR BESSY
Race 4 - 10 METALIKALI, 8 Cereiza
Race 7 - 2 RON'S FOLLY, 1 Beau Halo

[Stix]

Wyong
Race 6 - 4 SKY RIGHT, 3 Diamonds'n'pearls, 2 Malita (4,3,2,6 - 7,5)
6 Big Red Ball...... nice divy Sportz. Well Done $17.40.

[Desi]

Like Ron's Folly too Sportz (good trial at Belmont 22/8 when running second best time of the day- Foxaround was the fastest) has won at distance and a good record at Northam...will be short though...also have Power Glide and Stormy Gale on the trials BBook but not sure how to rate the trials properly...watch all though Belmont races by video and again have to work out how to use info...any advice...:)

[Sportz]

Yeah, I didn't think it would pay that. Sky Right was a lot shorter than I expected and it was VERY unlucky.

[Stix]

Yeah, I didn't think it would pay that. Sky Right was a lot shorter than I expected and it was VERY unlucky.
Listening to the race Bossy was doing some sight seeing looking over each shoulder..... as he couldn't go anyhwere..... but LUCKY for us !!

[Sportz]

Rockhampton
Race 6 - 4 FROM THE TOP & 3 DEADLY CLANG (4,3,8 - 6,5,9,2)


Sorry about that. Shouldn't have tipped in that one. An open 1000m scamper. When will I learn? As it turned out, all the late money was for Sierra Slammer, so they obviously knew something.

[Sportz]

What the....? St Tevoc??? I give up.

[xptdriver]

If this is of any use... this is how i see the Wyong Cup... not overly confident.. I think the ol boy from Taree will run well and is a nice price

2 $2.60 Irongail
3 $5.80 Carael Boy
1 $6.80 Dancing Daggers
4 $7.00 Empyreal
7 $9.90 Monsoon Sunrise

Cant discount the Taree Cup winner but IMHO it is unders

[xptdriver]

If this is of any use... this is how i see the Wyong Cup... not overly confident.. I think the ol boy from Taree will run well and is a nice price

2 $2.60 Irongail
3 $5.80 Carael Boy
1 $6.80 Dancing Daggers
4 $7.00 Empyreal
7 $9.90 Monsoon Sunrise

Cant discount the Taree Cup winner but IMHO it is unders

Woo hoooooo the ol taree horse doent let us down... hope ya took the tip :)

[Stix]

Nice work X... had the ol' boy in there.... not a lot of value.... BUT.... a win is a win is a win is a win !

[Sportz]

Hey, my ratings were pretty similar to that, XPT. Quite a gettable first 4 really, wasn't it. :)

[xptdriver]

Hey, my ratings were pretty similar to that, XPT. Quite a gettable first 4 really, wasn't it. :)

I love Irongail.. It sure does'nt owe me any money, but Carael Boy is a local from around here and have backed him for yonks and I know the Trainer and he is a gent imo... having said all that... I think he was the horse to get excited about... I thought Irongail might struggle at the distance, but was prepared to back it with the boy... but I reversed the bets... the others in the race were not much value at all... The $6 was a fair price for the ol fella... I was hoping he would slip in under the radar, but he didnt... a good tough win just the same... I ave been goin ok lately.... hope it continues

[xptdriver]

Nice work X... had the ol' boy in there.... not a lot of value.... BUT.... a win is a win is a win is a win !

Gday stix...

agree on the value side.... but I made my own value by reversing the bets...

[Sportz]

MASTER NELSON????? :(

[Stix]

any thoughts for last at wyong?

[maverick1993]

You were right Sportz about Cindy Kate ..to short imo ..
had a go at Mac's tune sounded unlucky ....Empyreal probably ran a good race but probably as good as can be expected..
Tara's Song just didnt come on..dissapointing...
Shining light was Indicates :) just went alittle greedy with the tri and 1st4 and only got the tri once,,,,,,lately i've been getting them 5 to 10 times and been getting alittle cocky..

anyway not to much damage 1 for 4 ..25% loss ..but i can live with that..

Saturday looks huge ...my fav horses Merlot Now and Bomber Bill are against each other,,wont know what to do.

Hope you guys jagged a winner or two ..

[Sportz]

any thoughts for last at wyong?

Sorry mate. I would have said 1 to beat 3, but not much good now, is it. :o

[Stix]

Thnx sports went Duet on 1,3,9,11.... so not a bad result

[maverick1993]

Hi Guys,,a few thoughts for tomorrow.
Ipswich
*Diexueme.. even with the weight has these covered,,just to good..
*Suubird..fought on well last start at a distance i think is too long..better suited here at the 1200m ..doesnt have to beat much..
Grafton
*Fanqualo,, always hard these scampers but this one has been in good form ..can run time..
*Shagny lover ,.good run up the inside last start..has been working well to the line previously..might sneak under the radar if they come for Concitare and the old Boy rodeo Chutout..

might be temtped with Admiral Jack in Ballarat..if the odds are right,,

probably just the four for me tomorrow..Good Luck :)

[Tenacious Spirit]

I was just looking at the results from yesterday, just had the one bet, running double race 7 into 8 at wyong which i didn;t get due to st tevoc and carael boy. I was just thinking though, i put the bet on in the morning based on prepost markets etc not the final prices, had i seen st tevoc at $22, you would have to throw him in wouldn;t you? His form read pretty well, nothing higher than 4th for his 4 runs back from a spell and would have been reaching peak fitness 5th run back. I took him on based on the fact that i thought he would be pretty much in the market and 'at the odds' was prepared to take the gambel that others had his measure.

Another thing. In the second leg carael boy won. That is like the 5th time i have been burnt by that horse. He is a pretty good galloper. I mean he sneaks up on you and a lot don;t rate him in most of the races he competes. I.e. he is a wet tracker, too old etc. But in these sort of sydney races he always seems to do pretty well. He is a very versatile galloper i now believe. He won yesterday at his first go at 2100, and about 3 weeks ago he won a 1600 race (if i remeber correctly). Yesterday he met some ok opposition most of which had seen the likes of 2100 metre journeys and beyond. Another thing i have noticed about this horse, which i would have thought to be uncharacteristic for an older horse is that he seems to maintain form quite well. He has been up for a while now and whilst he doesn;t win every won, he remains consistent and when the right race pops up he comes out and gives it a shake. I think he just one of those "throw him in" sort of horses - the ones where after the race you are like yeh, yeh i can understand why he won, but before you are like oh yeah he probably won;t be up to it.

Anyway, if anyone actually read through the lot of that i hope you got at least something from it
- Matt

[Sportz]

Another thing. In the second leg carael boy won. That is like the 5th time i have been burnt by that horse. He is a pretty good galloper. I mean he sneaks up on you and a lot don't rate him in most of the races he competes. I.e. he is a wet tracker, too old etc.

I must admit I've been a bit like that. I did gave him a good chance of winning yesterday. However, I remember earlier in his career that he had such a great record on wet tracks, I have sort of tended to regard him as a wet tracker only. But his recent form on dry tracks has been great.

[Tenacious Spirit]

Just perusing tommorows randwick form. Whats going on? These fields are piss weak in terms of numbers. The roman consul - 5 runners!! As for the first race, give me a break.

[Tenacious Spirit]

Sportz, it's wierd like that. Some horses seem to tend towards the wet tracks as then get older whilst some who were previously good on wet tracks seem to prefer dry tracks as they get older. It can be a bit misleading at times i.e. a horse has had 12 starts on the wet and won six placed in 2. You go oh yeh he is a swimmer for sure, however it might have been the 4 unplaced runs on the wet that were the most recent.

[xptdriver]

I must admit I've been a bit like that. I did gave him a good chance of winning yesterday. However, I remember earlier in his career that he had such a great record on wet tracks, I have sort of tended to regard him as a wet tracker only. But his recent form on dry tracks has been great.

Gday All
You have to remember ... he is a group winner in his early days ( without researching i think it was the straddie, might be wrong tho) and early on he was NEVER out of the money regardless of company... Brad Pengelly made his name ridiing this bloke... he is now stable jockey for McLachlan on the Coast and Brissy.. he has had injury problems in the past (the horse that is) his win yesterday is typical of the ol fella... He is a tough bloke, who regardless of the price and ratings (rated 2nd) seemed to be the best option in that race.. another of my favs, Joe Pride's Irongail, was iffy at the distance but had been going better in better company of recent time IMO , than the ol fella, and as I said in an earlier post owes me no money... so i backed both of em, but was pretty sure that Carael Boy would beat Irongail home, not neccessarily win the race, so I backed Irongail as a cover (18$) and Carael Boy as my main bet (38$) so 56$ outlayed for a profit of 175$ so it was a good result... Keep an eye out for the horses from up this way,,, they do pop up at the most unexpected times..as is evidenced by St Tevoc :)

[maverick1993]

i think the track suited Careel Boy yesterday..the short straight plays into his style...he sort of races prominent and sticks on...but on a longer straight you could see Dancing Daggers run over all of them...
I risked Dancing daggers yesterday because of the tight track,,,betfair should of been my go in that race....

[Sportz]

You have to remember ... he is a group winner in his early days ( without researching i think it was the straddie, might be wrong tho) and early on he was NEVER out of the money regardless of company...

Actually it was the Villiers (group 2) in 2001. I remember it well because I had a good bet on Carael Boy in that one. I also remember that I took a 4 horse box trifecta and my picks finished 1-2-3-4 and I didn't take a first 4.

Anyway, he also won a couple of other group 3 races early on too in amongst a string of wins. Actually, I just looked back at his form and coming into the Stradbroke of 2002 he had 14 wins from his first 19 starts!!! He finished 11th in the Stradbroke and in just over 3 years since then, he'd only won 2 races from 35 starts! That was before yesterday.

[maverick1993]

No tips today boys ??? does everyone have their noses in the form guides and video screens for tomorrows races..

How hard is Melbourne tomorrow...speed maps are driving me crazy..easier to throw a dart in some of those..

[Stix]

Pretty quiet on the forum today..... people must studying for Saturday !! (LOL !)

BALLARAT R4-5 Sticky Gum
BALLARAT R6-1 Elliptical
BALLARAT R7-3 Forest Dash
BALLARAT R8-7 Govenator

IPSWICH R6-4 St.Pirian

GRAFTON R7-2 Ace Arena
GRAFTON R7-8 Sir Beltch

GOULBURN R4-5 Fox In Sox
GOULBURN R6-2 Glaswegian
GOULBURN R8-7 Able Hero
GOULBURN R9-11 Chief Cloud

[maverick1993]

[QUOTE=Stix]Pretty quiet on the forum today..... people must studying for Saturday !! (LOL !)

spooky :)

[Stix]

"Great" minds think alike.....

[Stix]

Should of include Roxie Hart @ Ballarat R4..... Sorry.... was very impressive last start (Should blackbooked it - but didn't!).... shoulda, woulda.... but DIDN'T

(Yet another Dysliexic moment !!)

[maverick1993]

great story at Grafton...Abrahams who recently died ina ar accident ,his partner Leanne Frankland bolts the winner in just after a minutes silence for him..
alot of tears in Grafton i'm guessing..

[maverick1993]

good to get the first over the line..Suubird should never be ridden over 1200m..hope you got on Luv2 i know you've followed him of late..

quiet day for me...our Showday holiday down here...have the video working over time..the races on a smaller tv..a six pack and the Sportsman ..
..was going to the races and would of been nice there cheering him over the line..might of got better odds to ,,

wow nice trifecta :)

[Stix]

Pretty quiet on the forum today..... people must studying for Saturday !! (LOL !)

BALLARAT R4-5 Sticky Gum
BALLARAT R6-1 Elliptical
BALLARAT R7-3 Forest Dash
BALLARAT R8-7 Govenator

IPSWICH R6-4 St.Pirian

GRAFTON R7-2 Ace Arena
GRAFTON R7-8 Sir Beltch

GOULBURN R4-5 Fox In Sox
GOULBURN R6-2 Glaswegian
GOULBURN R8-7 Able Hero
GOULBURN R9-11 Chief Cloud
Nice Start...
BALLARAT R4-5 Sticky Gum 2ND $2.00
GOULBURN R4-5 Fox In Sox WON $5.60 $2.10

............ fingers crossed / touch wood ..... it continues...

[Tenacious Spirit]

Yeh i am having a rest today. Checking out tommorows racing. Check out brissy tommoz, i have got the #4 runner rated as a chance in nearly every race, how weird is that? There are some real toughies tommorow, with the youngsters being so even and so many first up appearances.

[Sportz]

Yeah, likewise. I was really only keen on one race today and Concitaire's done the right thing there, so I'm happy. Nice trifecta too. Might do a Kenchar and call it quits for the day now I think.

[Stix]

TS,

On a long lost thread a while ago..... someone posted that "if in doubt" :

Take the top four listed runners (e.g. 1,2,3,4 or if 2 scratched, numbers become 1,3,4,5
Bracaket first two and last two (i.e. 1,2 and 4,5)
Place one unit on the longer of the two in each bracket and 2 units on the shorter selection

1 $2 = 2 units
2 $5 = 1 unit

and


3 $17 = 1 unit
4 $6 = 2 units

Suprised it brings up some nice divy's..... also I've used it on any2's/Duets.... (especially when having a few ales and really shouldn't be betting !! lol!)


Cheers

Stix

[maverick1993]

rather play lotto stix :)
Alcohol and betting dont mix well at all ..

[maverick1993]

you beauty :) Fanqualo ....funny call... ..happy days

[Sportz]

Damn. I would have had the winner and the trifecta in Grafton Race 6. Shouldn't have stopped betting after the good result in race 4. :(

[maverick1993]

always happens Sportz...thats why i cant do it,,,,just have my plan for the day and stick with it...and have my play bets to keep me interested..

Diexieme was ridden poorly ...always thought Active Combat a wet tracker..?? but he won well today..

[Sportz]

Yeah, I had a good win in R4, but I've missed out on an even better result in race 6. DUMB!

[maverick1993]

Great day today
Suubird and Fanqualo winning

the others performed well ..Diexeime 4th ,Shagny Lover 3rd and Admiral Jack 3rd ..

2 for 5 ...nice trifectas ..cashed up again for tomorrow.. :)

Bad Luck on Able Hero STix..i had a play $10 on it and it seemed the winner in the straight..just wanted to lay in so Kathy couldnt ride it out...will mark it down in the book .. Govenator almost got there aswell,,

we were all very consistant today..

[saratoga samchaz]

Thanks for SUUBIRD, Mav. I didn't get on Fanquala as they only took up til race 7. Really sprinted clear in the end didn't he? Don't see why he can't get 7f. Also, got a nice exacta with Fox in Sox(Thanks to XPT) and World of Prayer(Thanks ME) but bet mine to win instead of X-man's.(Goul) How about that jock going down in that race. I heard he's alright on 2KY(Excellent station).
Now i have it check my results after race 5. SAM"S ADVICE kinda mad me mad though 0-31, but 9 for 31 in the money.