Sportz or Duritz

[Raw Instinct]

Just wondering what you had in mind for the next tipping comp I know Sportz mentioned something along the lines like fantasy sports if we are going to go that way I was wondering what you had in mind because I had tossed a few ideas around myself over the last couple of weeks.

I was thinking we could do a draft type thing basically meaning that only one person could own a certain horse and then we could work out a scoring system varying between certain grades of races a bit of work involved but I would certainly help out. We could also incorporate the price which the horse pays into the point system say a horse wins a midweek race paying $30 for the win and $6 for the place then you could award say 5 points for the win and the 30 points for the ammount he paid aswell as the 6 points it would have paid for the place so all up you would get 41 points for that winner.

If you guys have MSN messenger or something you can get me on there if you wanted to chat about it at all and throw around some ideas and see what we can come up with.

[Sportz]

Raw,

I wasn't actually planning on doing that until at least the new season in August or preferably the start of September. You see, I was going to concentrate only on Group 1, 2 & 3 races during the Sydney & Melbourne Spring Carnivals. Makes it a lot easier for me to run and for everyone to play if we're concentrating on only the very best races and horses.

[Raw Instinct]

Thats ok mate just realised we aren't going to have much running soon I migtht have a bit more of a think about it and might start it up myself will wait out the brisbane carnival atleast anyway probably was thinking around the end of August then run it for either 3 or 6 months probably 3 months then reload again.

[Sportz]

There's one thing I was thinking about that could be a bit of fun.

You know how we've often thought we could do better than the expert tipsters. Well, how about we actually try. Newspaper tipsters have to get all their Saturday tips in by Thursday afternoon. So as a challenge, we could post all of our tips on Thursdays and see how we go. We could develop it into our very own tipsters poll and work out the 'most favoured' in each race etc etc. Then we could compare it to the Newspaper tipsters from the Courier Mail or Telegraph or Australian or something. Newspaper tipsters usually only tip in one state, so we could perhaps concentrate on one state each and give 3 tips in each race at that one track. I'm not sure which state I'd concentrate on.

Anyway, what do you think of that idea? Probably a bit too late to do anything about it this week though. How about we wait until after the Brisbane Carnival's finished and we should have it all worked out by then.

[Raw Instinct]

Yea sounds pretty good mate I wouldn't mind running it for the 4 states or even 5 states in there is somehow we can find out what the guys are tipping in WA either way I would be in it.

[Duritz]

Yeah consensus poll a good idea - give us till Friday afternoon though....... we aren't the slaves of Murdoch!!

If it started going well, we could put in a small amount each of a Saturday for a consensus quaddie or something like that even, if people were keen. I reckon the consensus tips would go very well (especially if they were at Strathalbyn! :) )

[Sportz]

Duritz,

That would certainly be okay if we simply wanted to do our own tipsters poll, but if we also wanted to compete against the Newspaper tipsters, then we really should post our tips before Friday. After all, that's when they have to do it. And if we wait till Friday, everyone will be able to look at all the newspaper tips anyway, and it won't be the same.

So what do you guys reckon? Just simply do our own consensus poll or also try to compete against the newspaper tipsters.

[Chuck]

i definitely Couldn’t do it if we had to tip on Thursdays...i do the form with the Friday paper and haven’t really an idea of the racing before that

[Sportz]

Okay, I guess we'll make it Friday night.

So who wants to be involved? Remember, you have to give 3 tips in every race at one or more of the meetings. Just give me some sort of idea by posting here if you want to have a go. And also tell me what state or states you prefer to pick in.

[Duritz]

I'll go in, and wherever too.

[xptdriver]

Gday Boys...

Sounds interesting.. Thursday for me kinda sucks because sometimes I am ready of a thursday sometimes not until friday because of work.. Sometimes I dont get all the fields until late thursday night depends on my provider as well.. But i like the idea.. I reckon this forum should be able to beat the press fairly easily and regularly.. I assume we are only looking at the metros... tho Perth has been pretty kind of late

[Sportz]

Probably Bris, Syd, Melb & Adel, but possibly Perth as well. And yes, we'll make it that everyone has to post their tips by Friday night.

[AVATAR]

I suspect that you guys will not be any better than the "ex_perts". Doing your tips on a friday defeats the purpose of this thread as you will all have the "ex_perts" tips.

Why bother?

[Sportz]

Knowing the way most of these other blokes tip, they don't tend to take a lot of notice of newspaper tipsters.

Anyway, we don't necessarily have to compete with the experts. That was just an idea. We'll do this to compete with each other and at the same time form a consensus of all our opinions. It will be interesting to see how we go.

[Chuck]

wasn't the meaning behind this that we thought the "ex_perts":D were rubbish? Therefore why would they sway our opinion;)

[Raw Instinct]

I do not and have never taken any notice of what the newspaper, Best Bets or the Sprotsman have tipped ever at allI buy the Best Bets every week wholy and solely because it is the easiest form of a form guide to read has everything in it that I want and it isn't enormous like the Sportsman. I am fine going against the tipsters but Thursday would be real hard for me most of the time usually do my form on Friday nights so that would suit much better.

[maverick1993]

Sounds fun Sportz if you want me ...would luv either Adelaide or Brissie :) Friday night would be better as well...that way you have some idea of the track conditions for the day..

[Sportz]

Yep. You seem to do well in both those states.

[Raw Instinct]

My top picks would be Melbourne and Brisbane just a shame that I can't see the races in Melbourne anymore

[kiwi]

Yep, count me in guys, it is tricky tipping from litle old NZ but i usually do the form with neurals, and the Tassie site, and that form is available early enough.

[Duritz]

As with Raw, I do not, have never and will never take notice of the tipsters in the paper. I very occasionally buy the Sportsman, but usually not, very very occasionally Best bets, I never have the Herald-Sun or the Age or Australian etc, so 19 weeks out of 20 I wouldn't have the first clue what they've tipped anyway.

I think we can safely compete against the tipsters even if we're putting them in on Friday, it'd be really good to see how we went, we just all have to agree not to alter our tips as a result of whatever the tripe served up in said paper's is.

Could part of the records we keep of us as a consensus be the s/r of winners in top selection and also in top four?

[Sportz]

Yep.

How about we all have a go tomorrow just as a bit of a practice run. I'm not going to start this officially yet as it's a bit of a last minute thing.

Just post your top 3 picks in every race at whichever tracks you wish to tip in. Try to post names as well as numbers please so there's no mistake.

So far, we've got:
Duritz, Raw Instinct, Chuck, xptdriver, maverick1993, kiwi and myself. I'd like to find at least 3 more, so perhaps someone like Testarossa, Goldcoaster, QuickFunBet, Seeker11, Sirpent or Real Deal. Probably a couple of others I've forgotten too. Has anyone seen Umrum lately? He'd be good for Perth tips.

[Raw Instinct]

What happened to Paddy out of interest haven't seen him around between he and Umrum we have lost a couple of guys who were very good to have around shame really.

[Sportz]

I agree.

[maverick1993]

What about William...sportz ? or dont you think he'll be interested

[Sportz]

He hasn't been around for a while either, has he?

[Raw Instinct]

Yea theres another one of the guys who were here when I started out that aren't here anymore he used to post here all the time it's a shame there was some wierd stuff going on here a few months back and a few left over that not particularly sure what it was all over but maybe this had something to do with the disappearance of Paddy, William and Umrum.

[Top Rank]

I'll have a go if you want.

I can give you tips for any state you want except WA. I have all my prelim. form done by lunchtime Friday.

[Sportz]

Okay. Thanks Top Rank. I've started up a thread titled "Forum Tipsters Poll (June 4)". You can post them there. This week is purely a practice run to see how it all works. We'll get serious next week.

[jim curran]

sydney
R 1 4 mosso
9 smart and fast
6 coriolis
1 hadaaf

R2 3 zarook
1 bunkum
2 skittles
7 son of oegasus

R3 4 pin.up
3 sweet ranson
2 miss mooney mooney
6 retail therapy

R 4 5 desert culture
9 sun chariot
12 cezanne
10 quest for fortune

R 5 1 mushroom
3 intermoo
6 clews place
9 top off the pop

R 6 2 zinzin
3 pekalan
8 long stemred
5 canadian heights

R 7 2 xlerate
5 dancing daggers
8 november dreaming
13 northfeild drive

R 8 5 grandazz
10 langborghini
3 salgado
2 turaga

brisbane

R 1 3 thats better
1 a little nughty
10 raadsi
12 equal

R 2 1 enthusiast
3 classic karla
4 face value
8 blood and bone

R 3 7 pentelikon
2 magsaya
3 tui song
5 royal mask

R 4 5 willy leica
2 spirit of tara
1 saxon
8 spuruson

R 5 5 testifiable
2 diamonds on inside
3 upilio
17 just the star

R 6 4 cinque cento
3 vitesse dane
7 hueger
1 irish darling

R 7 7 sir breakfast
10 all bar one
5 beautiful gem
9 lamond

R 8 9 zingan
4 raw instinct
2 natural blitz
7 regal punch

Melbourne

R 1 4 loan shark
7 willett
8 spectacular storm
1 merlos

R 2 2 nehemial
1 davout
5 black cat
10 one knight

R 3 9 valkyrie dive
3 amazing trace
5 show us your legs
7 lauras charm

R 4 4 moggs
6 avenue google
7 caprizzi strip
10 clavillo

R 5 3 irish belle
10 elmatilla
4 northern rose
8 haute danse

R 6 6 dismissal
9 bella corona
3 sain khapital
2 broadband

R 7 4 le bucheron
5 universal heights
3 gold attire
1 pantani

R 8 10 landloper
7 sky love
8 flying chance
2 reef beach

Adelaide

R 1 11 tuschany boy
14 elviva
3 delta devil
5 terocco

R 2 1 bramada
9 it aint easy
7 smyla
11 ubetibita

R 3 2 grace & power
5 polygram
1 zip zip aray
7 cash kalani

R 4 7 lessie
1 silk wind
4 oasis draming
2 desert mission

R 5 2 thundahar
7 hong kong cheri
9 thorns
13 bella bianco

R 6 1 lountone
4 sebrle
7 miss presley
10 blevoki

R 7 10 geppettos star
4 ottobello
1 jillimarg
12 cielo road

R 8 2 froth & bubble
11 breton rose
4 cyber dream
7 ali gee

Belmont

R 1 1 female warrior
3 last dash
8 dr moro
10 modification

R 2 3 miss andretti
4 hold your hennessy
1 raven protector
7 lust for dust

R 3 7 holy bounty
3 salisbury street
1 volition
13 real halo

R 4 6 swift jeune
4 dakas gem
5 star laser
1 brigalow

R 5 1 swift jeune
8 metarama
3 knight school
2 head west

R 6 10 ambers halo
4 impressive stats
11 refemme
7 prince of vasac

R 7 3 polish reign
4 the western dynamo
1 kensington lane
11 secciho

R 8 1 the little tacker
6 zed power
7 flying johnson
9 leading man

from jim curran
e-mail dcurran@bigpond.net.au

[Sportz]

Jim,

Welcome to the forum. :)

I actually created another thread to put all the tips on called "Forum Tipsters Poll (June 4)". I don't suppose you could put them on that thread please? And to save space, could you set them out more like this:

Sydney
R1 - 4 Mosso, 9 Smart And Fast, 6 Coriolis, 1 Hadaaf
R2 - 3 Zarook, 1 Bunkum, 2 Skittles, 7 Son Of Pegasus