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Real Deal
24th June 2005, 09:23 AM
Have heard a massive whisper that tomorrow will be it! Dandy kid was set this whole campaign to claim the mooney valley record. Whilst the original plan was a win last start (I had my cash all over him and looked set to collect at the 100m mark), apparently the horse is looking fitter than ever and tomorrow is there biggest chance yet. This is from a mate of mine who is doing some part time track work for griffiths. Hoping for $5 but unsure.

Tenacious Spirit
24th June 2005, 10:32 AM
Thanks real deal, rated him very highly aswell.

I hate the valley, i can never snag a winner.
What are everyones thoughts on race 6. It is a mighty tough race. Need some guidance, i thought Silver Birch's last run was tops and likes the track, but there are a handful of chances. I will have something small on my namesake - she normally has a good record second up but first up run was not all that good, however back from close to a year in the paddock.

CHeers,
Matt

Rudolph
25th June 2005, 09:59 AM
Race 6, real tough one, if you must punt, go with Tal Jack, strong win last start and likes the valley, might get around $8-$10.

Tubby
25th June 2005, 04:28 PM
Good work Real Deal.

Sportz
25th June 2005, 04:55 PM
Well done to the old bloke.

maverick1993
25th June 2005, 05:06 PM
well done Real Deal..never a doubt on the turn.

Sportz
25th June 2005, 05:14 PM
Well done to the old bloke.

That was in reference to Dandy Kid, not Real Deal. :D

gazman
26th June 2005, 07:08 AM
well done real deal.........thank christ babraba road was in that race or old dandy might have been around the $2 mark,,it will be a long time before that record gets taken from him..good work..

Imagele
26th June 2005, 09:22 PM
What a great record it would have been if Dandy had been made to carry the real weight allotted to him by the handicapper.
Since June 2nd. 2004, Dandy has won 6 races at M. V. over 1200m.
In the first of these 6 wins he carried 55kg. after a claim.
His sixth and latest win, he carried 55kg after the claim.
What other horse in history has been able to win 6 metropolitan races in a 12 month period and carry the same weight in his last win as he did in his first.
Also included in this period were four placings, one of them a G4 WFA race.
The use of an apprentice rider to defeat the handicapper in all of Dandy's past six wins makes a nonsense of the notion that claims are only there to compensate for a rider's inexperience.
It's about time the whole system of apprentice claims was reviewed.
The allowances are far to generous in this day and age, particularly for talented and naturally gifted riders.
Can we assume that Dandy Kid would have won Saturday's race with a senior jockey on board because the 3kg. claim for Guthrie only compensated for his inexperience.
If that's the case, why not use a senior jockey?
The theory that a 3kg. claim equals X. degree of inexperience is absolute rubbish.

Tenacious Spirit
27th June 2005, 07:56 AM
Yeh, interesting that about the weight. I have a similar question. Which horse backs up 2 good seconds with a good first then starts 13 at his next race start which he subsequently wins well, then starts 5.50 with some bookies next start,...which he wins.

Real Deal
27th June 2005, 10:55 AM
you guys have helped me out in the past and anytime i can try and give you one back i have. glad it came in. i took a melb quad on the way to play footy and totally missed all races. but how sweet it was. never one to boast it went something like f x omaru storm x f x dandy kid (lol). Well done old fella and congrats with the record.

Mr ed
27th June 2005, 08:36 PM
Hey Real Deal, great work mate. A guy who drinks at my RSL is a part owner and he said it had never been better. His last run was tops and has there ever been a race that a horse has looked better suited in? Agree how well weighted Dandy is, but it is on that ratings system now so can't begrudge. What i can't understand is why bookies take such a set against him EVERYTIME HE RUNS.

Had a pisser of a day in the MV punters club, started with a few beers and ended in me and two mates absolutely giving it to the tipster and the price is right dude for backing their last $837 on Barraba Road instead of "The Kid" we, told him (and the whole palladium) it was a good thing B4 the race. The old folks with there BYO tea and biscuits were none to impressed, we got many a dagger from the bewildered mob as they watched their $20 investment dwindle to a mere pie voucher.

I must admit Oamaru Storm has slipped under my radar a bit, but i have never backed him or against him so i haven't really noticed his talent. Silver Birch is very close to a win, getting right down in weight now and was never extended from impossible position on Sat. Orange County is a future star, started v. good odds after top run behind Danerich (who i backed, and lucky to collect) His sectionals were far superior to Dandy Kid's carrying .5kg more after the claim, and with similar runs.

Sportz
27th June 2005, 10:01 PM
Funny that. I got a 'blackbook' tip for Oamaru Storm a while back and I've backed him at each of those last 4 wins. I'm surprised at the price each time. I thought it would have been about $3 at most on Saturday. And Orange County was my best bet. Again surprised at the odds. :)

Mr ed
27th June 2005, 11:14 PM
Yep, Orange County paid ENORMOUS, i actually thought it would be close to even money. Not that i bet on it, didn't wake up till after the second following a massive night at Goldfingers, dare i say, i could've well used a $6 winner in the first.

I see you put El Man Goss in Sportz, don't sack him, that race was never going to suit with the apparent lack of speed, wide gate, sharp class rise.

Sportz
28th June 2005, 07:11 AM
didn't wake up till after the second following a massive night at Goldfingers

What the...? Didn't wake up till 1 o'clock???

Sportz
28th June 2005, 07:19 AM
Mr Ed, are you going to have a go at the Fantasy Racing competition I'm running. I think you'd be good at it. You've got till the end of June to sign up on the Sticky Thread at the top of this forum.

Mr ed
29th June 2005, 11:18 PM
Yeh might do mate. Yep was well crook Saturday, didn't get to the races until just after Topzoff's race where the hair(s) of the dog proceeded.