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Chrome Prince 1st November 2005 11:39 PM

Do you agree Group 1 Assessment?
 
Hi all,

Just trialling a little research.

Excluding today's races, do you think my class ranking of Group 1 races this year is correct?

I'd be interested in what you disagree on but in particular why?

Thanks.

Top to bottom - highest class to lowest.


12/03/2005 Flemington Australian Cup
22/10/2005 Moonee Valley Carlton Draught Cox Plate
12/02/2005 Caulfield C.F. Orr Stakes
5/03/2005 Rosehill Ranvet Stakes
19/03/2005 Rosehill The Bmw
2/04/2005 Randwick Bigpond Queen Elizabeth Stakes
19/02/2005 Warwick Farm Chipping Norton Stakes
26/03/2005 Randwick Blackmores Tj Smith Stakes
29/10/2005 Flemington Motorola Mackinnon Stakes
19/02/2005 Moonee Valley Timbercorp Australia Stakes
15/10/2005 Caulfield Carlton Draught Caulfield Cup
8/10/2005 Caulfield Yalumba Stakes
2/04/2005 Randwick Daily Telegraph All Aged Stakes
5/03/2005 Caulfield Futurity Stakes
11/06/2005 Eagle Farm Aami Stradbroke
24/09/2005 Randwick George Main Stakes
21/05/2005 Doomben Carlton Draught Doomben 10,000
17/09/2005 Caulfield Dubai Duty Free Underwood Stakes
29/10/2005 Flemington Seppelt Salinger Stakes
5/02/2005 Flemington Teac Lightning Stakes
12/03/2005 Flemington Seppelt Wines Newmarket Handicap
8/10/2005 Caulfield Toorak Handicap
17/09/2005 Caulfield Dubai Racing Club Cup
30/03/2005 Randwick David Jones Galaxy
10/09/2005 Moonee Valley Cleanevent Manikato Stakes
28/03/2005 Randwick Doncaster Handicap
12/03/2005 Flemington Cadbury Guineas
29/10/2005 Flemington Myer Classic
19/03/2005 Rosehill Cathay Pacific George Ryder Stakes
2/04/2005 Randwick Schweppes Sydney Cup
14/05/2005 Morphettville Urban Pacific Goodwood Handicap
1/10/2005 Randwick Bigpond Racing Epsom Handicap
5/03/2005 Rosehill Coolmore Classic
8/10/2005 Caulfield Carlton Draught Caulfield Guineas
28/05/2005 Doomben Xxxx Gold Doomben Cup Weight For Ag
23/02/2005 Morphettville Robert Sangster Stakes
26/02/2005 Caulfield Oakleigh Plate
26/03/2005 Randwick Inglis Sires Produce
1/10/2005 Randwick Sydney City Lexus Flight Stakes
16/05/2005 Morphettville Skycity Adelaide Cup
13/06/2005 Eagle Farm Conrad Treasury Brisbane Cup
19/03/2005 Rosehill McMillanprint Queen Of The Turf Sta
19/03/2005 Rosehill Arrowfield Stud Stakes
30/03/2005 Randwick Emirates Ajc Australian Oaks
1/10/2005 Randwick The Metropolitan
26/03/2005 Randwick David Jones Australian Derby
2/04/2005 Randwick Salinger Champagne Stakes
19/03/2005 Rosehill Aami Golden Slipper
12/03/2005 Rosehill Dubai Rosehill Guineas
9/04/2005 Belmont Mount Franklin Lightly Sparklking-w
12/10/2005 Caulfield Vinery Stud Thousand Guineas
26/02/2005 Canterbury Kia Ora Stud Canterbury Guineas
29/10/2005 Flemington Aami Victoria Derby
4/06/2005 Eagle Farm Joe Richards Menswear Queensland Oa
26/02/2005 Caulfield Aami Blue Diamond Stakes
11/06/2005 Eagle Farm Bmw Queensland Derby
1/10/2005 Randwick Thrifty Spring Champion Stakes
7/05/2005 Morphettville Schweppes Oaks
13/06/2005 Eagle Farm The Racetree T.J. Smith Qtis 2-y-o
4/06/2005 Eagle Farm Borrelli Hand Made Clothing Sires'
14/05/2005 Morphettville Malaysia Airlines Sa Derby

Chrome Prince 2nd November 2005 10:00 PM

No takers? Wow.

Thought there would be quite a few ready to rip it apart.

The class rating is based on field strength.

The Cox Plate rating well below the Australian Cup.

The Caulfield Cup rating well below some other less regarded races

Raw Instinct 2nd November 2005 10:21 PM

Hard for me to say really have no idea here but I think that the QLD Derby could have been ranked a little higher even more so with Lachlan River running the race he did in the cup, The other I think will be a better race in a bit of time is the TJ Smith in Brisbane Darci Brahma is all quality and I have alot of time for the placegetters there in Ready As and Daemons maybe I am wrong.

FremantleDoctor 2nd November 2005 11:32 PM

I would exclude the one and only WA listing CP. We don't want to get a big head over here you know! ;)

FremantleDoctor 2nd November 2005 11:34 PM

And as a matter of interest how did we get that one on your list :)

FremantleDoctor 2nd November 2005 11:36 PM

I see Desi has just clocked in :) Perhaps Desi could shed some light ;)

FremantleDoctor 2nd November 2005 11:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by FremantleDoctor
I see Desi has just clocked in :) Perhaps Desi could shed some light ;)


Well Desi's been and gone, as well as CP. Must have b.o. Ah well there’s always tomorrow :)

Chrome Prince 3rd November 2005 01:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by FremantleDoctor
And as a matter of interest how did we get that one on your list :)


That W.A. race rated well more because Plastered was running in it which really boosted the class of the field.

Chuck 3rd November 2005 06:13 AM

Who was in the CFORR? surely that can't be rated that high.

BTW Do you think it would be possible to post the fields of the top5 or so? thanks

Chrome Prince 3rd November 2005 01:50 PM

Hi Chuck,

The CF ORR

Elvstroem
Mummify
Pentastic
Mr. Murphy
Regal Roller
Natural Blitz
Casual Pass
Lad Of The Manor
Rizon
Pretorius
Makybe Diva
Vouvray
Savabeel
Not A Single Doubt
Danehill Express

A cracking field - won by Elvstroem, hence the high ranking.


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