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crash 27th February 2007 05:36 PM

Crash's Pre-post System
 
He is one of my personally designed systems that does OK and throws up some good priced winners and is in profit after 2yrs. of off again on again use.

1. Go to: http://tabform.thewest.com.au/jspcontent/TFFrameset.jsp after they have the PP odds up.
[can use any pp source inc. newspaper but stick to the same one].
2. Consider any race meeting except WA or TAS. [also Ipswich races] with a Good track only.
3. Ignore any maidens, Hurdles, Stakes or Group races, Cup races, less than 1100m races or more than 2420m races.
4. Ignore any race with a $2.50 or less pp fav.
5. Note 2nd and third pp fav. [if 2 horses are the same odds the smallest tab. no. is 2nd. etc.], if they have a 't' or 'd' and are at least 3rd. up and in barrier 1 to 9.
6. Horse must be 3 to 5 yrs. only and must have last raced within 21 days.
6. Go to: http://www.racingandsports.com.au/racing/ and click on 'Stewards room' in the left column.
7. Check gear changes on that page and ignore any runner with a gear change.
8. The 2nd. fav. is your bet unless it is disqualified by any of above. The 3rd. pp fav. is then your bet unless it is also disqualified.
9. Any qualifier must have won in the 'good'.

There is an advanced form of this system that takes into account the runner's racing style [Leader, On pacer, Mid-pacer or Back-marker] and is the one I use. To use the advanced system you need a form service that denotes that info ['Past the Post' or similar]. With that info., leaders and On-pacers must be in the inside barriers, Mid-pacers and Back-markers in the outside barriers. It make a difference [especially for Back-markers] but barrier 1 to 9 generally works OK in the scheme of things.

Chrome Prince 27th February 2007 06:00 PM

Looks good crash,

On the issue of gear changes, I've had a lot of success laying odds on favourites carrying a gear change, unless it's an "again" item.
Whenever I see "first time" it's a flag of doubt about it's short price.
Of course any other gear such as shoes, chains etc is like printing your own currency.
Two odds on faves went down in Aus today with gear changes ;)
This also works with the trots, where the odds on favourite broke last start.

But good luck with your system, are you going to list a tally?

crash 28th February 2007 05:09 AM

I might run with the system for awhile. Probably need a bit of a rest from handicapping anyway.

Gear changes certainly would be a money maker for Layers.
Watch out for blinkers first time though. A lot of runners drastically improve.
Everything else listed in gear changes, the horses don't like and mostly run accordingly. Haradasun had a tongue tie last week and look what happened there!

Chrome Prince 28th February 2007 06:32 AM

Yes, you're right there crash,
Blinkers, w inkers and even pacifiers I don't lay, but bits, tongue ties, shoes etc all tell a story.

crash 28th February 2007 07:37 AM

Only 2 'good' tracks today:

Wednesday, February 28

EAGLE FARM
5/2,4
7/4 Rum Dum (11) *Back-marker
GAWLER
5/6 Odea (3) *Mid-pacer
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Sportz 28th February 2007 08:42 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
EAGLE FARM
5/2,4
7/4 Rum Dum (11) *Back-marker
GAWLER
5/6 Odea (3) *Mid-pacer


Is this a mistake or is it number 2 & 4 in Race 5?

crash 28th February 2007 10:45 AM

R5/2,4 at Eagle Farm are a couple of early prospects that didn't qualify under 'days since last start' rule. I forgot to delete them from my copy and paste [one of them will win for sure now!].

The selections I put up are using the 'advanced' form of this system. The horse in Barrier 11 would not normally be included under the generalized barrier 1 to 9 rule. Because I know the horse is a Back-marker from my form service, it becomes a bet as it's in an ideal barrier.

Sportz 28th February 2007 12:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
R5/2,4 at Eagle Farm are a couple of early prospects that didn't qualify under 'days since last start' rule. I forgot to delete them from my copy and paste [one of them will win for sure now!].


They'll run the quinella for sure. ;)

go4it 28th February 2007 02:11 PM

I can recall listening to **** Kiwi jock Gary Willets during a live free to air telecast on Cup day making particular mention of how a horse can improve when wearing blinkers for the first time.

Anyone know what happened to him??

go4it 28th February 2007 02:16 PM

Why the **** when all I had was ****????????

What is happening with this site?
Have the moderators all gone mad,or is it me????
No swear words,no malice.yet it gets edited???
What's the use,
Goodbye all,enjoy your standover treatment,but not for me.
Stick it.


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