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goldcoast 4th March 2009 06:56 PM

Mechanical Systems
 
An interesting comment on another thread whether a system can be profitable with mechanical rules only. After reading some forums getting a basic understanding of some statistics I have been manually testing the below theory with small POT on level stakes.

The rules are:
100 or 99 raters Unitab only (approx. 37% winners)
First 3 in prepost only after scratchings (racingnpost)
Max 2 horses per race.

Level stakes.

Gives a punter a quite few bets with steady stream of winners. As I've been doing this for a few weeks manually there isn't alot of data to confirm but it is showing positve POT at the moment after approx 300 bets. I've been testing everyday for interest.

Cheers

Shaun 4th March 2009 08:15 PM

I would like someone with a database to test this, spounds interesting i don't think Racecenses has the unitab ratings in them.

Is the racingpost online or only paper?

goldcoast 4th March 2009 08:29 PM

Sorry Shaun,

should have read racingnsports & online..

Shaun 4th March 2009 08:59 PM

That 37% strike rate is that all selections, i was having a look at todays and in some races there is just 1 selection and in some there are 3 so the max is 2 selections or no race correct.

I was using the ************** pre post prices i guess most pre post prices are the same.

goldcoast 4th March 2009 09:03 PM

37% is quoted in another thread, and as I read is based on all 100/99 raters. You will find a lot of races with more than 2 horses but the most you will get is 3 as the prepost rule will come into play and yes if more than 2 no bet.

Hope that clears things up.

Shaun 4th March 2009 09:21 PM

You could in fact have more than 3 as the form i used in a couple of races had 5 in the first 3 pre post, but saying that you would also need a lot of 100/99 in that race.


This all means nothing realy as if you can't get it to 2 selections no bet, this is a golden rule i think because a lot of the selections were favs but a few were not, this also produced a $15 winner at sandown.

goldcoast 4th March 2009 10:31 PM

"You could in fact have more than 3 as the form i used in a couple of races had 5 in the first 3 pre post, but saying that you would also need a lot of 100/99 in that race."

Yes I agree and I actually include the first three plus any equals.


Today's results: Unitab prices.

38 Bets
13 Winners
34% SR
14.70 Profit - 1 unit
39% POT

There was a $15 winner. Hopefully there is something in this. If not at least you can have a fun day at the races and have a few winners..



















partypooper 4th March 2009 11:54 PM

Yes, I give the thumbs up on this one. I have been advocating for along time to START at the top Rater, (I guess this could extended to the second top rater i.e.99)

And THEN apply your filters, I think this has merit!

michaelg 5th March 2009 07:36 AM

Goldcoast,

I have checked yesterday's results using the Telegraph pre-post market, and I also deleted races that had 7 or less starters because I'm also interested in Place betting.

There were 13 winners from 33 selections for a return of $54.30 using Unitab divvies. Without the $15.30 winner the method would have shown a POT of 21.8%.

With Place betting there were 25 placegetters for a return of $43.20 which is a 75% strike rate and a POT of 30.9%.

If anyone's interested I'll hopefully be able to list today's selections before midday.

AngryPixie 5th March 2009 07:59 AM

I fear the $15 winner will be more the exception than the rule given that was a compressed market in UniTAB ratings terms (5 points covering 10 of the 11 horse field). :(


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