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crash 2nd July 2009 05:14 PM

Partypooper for the place
 
Just seeking a bit of advice old chum. I'm thinking as a sideline [especially the way I'm going at the moment... a fistful of place-getters I only backed for the win]. Today was typical. I had 4 bets for the win only on the last 4 Sale races and the results were [Vic TAB]:
r5 DARBYTON 1.70p
r6 NOBLE LUSTRE 3.80p
r7 [unplaced]
r8 AMHERST 2.40p

I think I should have a go at this place betting thingy. As you know [lol, lol] I'm not too bad at picking for the place only when I put my mind to it.

I know you use a system approach and you know I use a handicapping approach. What I really need to know is the way to go re. prices? I have an IAS account, a Vic. TAB account and a Betfair account. I seldom use the betfair account as I get lousy prices for the $5 to $20 range I bet for the win.

partypooper 2nd July 2009 08:57 PM

G'Day Crashy boy, !st thanks for reminding me about our little "competition" hahahah, NOT, though at least I conceded defeat in an acceptable way (even though you jagged it with longshots)

2nd, wasn't it some pitsburg someone or other that said pick em to win but back em for the place? well funny thing is how many of my place bets finish 4th, I kid you not it is beyond belief!!!

3rd,yes of course the DIVI, well I'm gonna upset you here cos I don't like "at least bets of 2 totes", ........ say you have $1.10c, $1.20c and $1.70c, they pay you $1.21c, nah,..... boollsheet.

Presuming you are betting Metro, Sportsbet pay BEST OF 3 TOTES, has to be the way to go.

But to get another edge, say you have a method that at least breaks even for the win, THEN you could use Sportingsbet Maxi Divi betting EW, the reasoning that you will be paid BEST OF 3 totes OR SP for the win portion (a lost leader so to speak) but this avails best of 3 totes OR 1/4 SP odds whichever is greater.for the place portion.

Clarify that, you will be paid best of 3 totes OR 1/4 SP odds whichever is greater. eg totes, $1.30, $1.50, $1.60, SP $4.20c(the win) so you would be paid $1.80c for the place portion, a definite advantage.

Mind you I'm told that there is other ways to bet for the place that are even more advantageous, but as yet I havent been able to explore.

crash 3rd July 2009 07:17 AM

Thanks for the heads-up Party. I'll have a good look at Sportsbet [you don't work for them do you?] :-0

If you find out any better way to go, please let me know.

Cheers, and I hope the 4th placegetters drop off.

PS: That Pitsburg bloke, didn't he die broke?

Try Try Again 3rd July 2009 03:03 PM

Hi Crash,

I know Betezy will pay you best of the 3 totes on all races, midweek included, but you must have a balance >=$1K in your account.

crash 3rd July 2009 04:39 PM

I do have a betezy account [nothing in it], but I don't like the mob. They keep calling me up and even calling up my wife, Zoe [god knows how they got her mobile number] hassling for us to use the account. Min. $1000 doesn't surprise me.

Mark 3rd July 2009 05:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
PS: That Pitsburg bloke, didn't he die broke?


Not quite.

http://www.oddjack.com/2005/the-leg...-phil-08-31.php

xanadu 3rd July 2009 05:36 PM

post5,
Yeah crash, I phoned their contact number because they were "spruiking" a "Knightsbet" account(myself being a resident of Newcastle and willing to help the local team).
I was confronted by some "drone" speaking in a monotone and providing no useful information.
I highlighted to this character his lack of customer relations and unprofessional telephone manner.
His reply was: "fair enough...!"... again in the same irritating monotone.
I terminated that conversation and will have no more dealings with that mob!

Cheers.

Stix 3rd July 2009 09:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Try Try Again
Hi Crash,

I know Betezy will pay you best of the 3 totes on all races, midweek included, but you must have a balance >=$1K in your account.
Who wouldn't have $1K in their account to take advantage of that? Why would you have an account with a corporate bookmaker if you had less than double that anyway...bet with the totes and enjoy your fun.

partypooper 4th July 2009 12:31 AM

Stix, that's an interseting post mate, I keep getting calls from that mob, the 25% bonus is a definite enticement, but of course thats only a one off, what I'm interested in is that bit about best of 3 totes all races every day, are you sure that applies to PLACE ONLY BETS?

The $1000 min deposit is a smaller consideration as my daily bets would amount to more than that. But at the % that one can hope for you would have to be investing nearer $10,000-$20,000 a week minimum. (in my opinion)

crash 4th July 2009 06:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stix
Who wouldn't have $1K in their account to take advantage of that? Why would you have an account with a corporate bookmaker if you had less than double that anyway...bet with the totes and enjoy your fun.


I opened an account with them when they first started [and it was only best of 2 totes then] but when they stated ringing my wife on her mobile, that was it. I couldn't care what they are now offering, even if it was double everyone else's odds!


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