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Ill Get There 4th September 2009 04:01 PM

Auto Bot Laying
 
Does anyone one have a bot

my ? is with a bank large enough..how can one lose

so base bet is $2

bank $20000

recovery 50% 0ver 2 bets

let it run with any method

pretty unlucky if one has a prob


target ???..........

i know about 6 in a row

i have had one and recovered

you either do it or you run scared and pull the pin and never win

any thoughts...

Reckless 4th September 2009 08:27 PM

The type of laying method used by member Mark (see thread Openers by Request) could be well suited by a BOT for laying. Or at least the market odds part of that method.

Provided the BOT was programmable and capable of taking odds from about 3 sources and doing the neccesary calculations it could work well.

I am assuming the BOT has the capability of changing the staking rules where a recovery becomes needed.

Shaun 5th September 2009 01:41 AM

Not exactly sure where this thread is going but i have used a few different methods in making a bot mostly excel and an API betfair product, i have done some work with AHK and using com functions to control webpage input and plan to test it with TAB and bookies sites to see if i can automate some betting tasks.

goty0405 5th September 2009 08:25 AM

I am a little unsure of what you meant in original post but pretty much anything you want can be done by a bot.

There are plentyof existing products (some for money, some free) and a couple of these allow you to automatic commands using VBA and excel. These are pretty good for the bot beginner and normally all have a free trial period. I'd recommend starting there to get some ideas.

Personally my friend and I wrote our own bot because nothing on the marketplace did exactly what we wanted and we wanted full control over it. It was a long process as we could only do it after hours so if you go down this path you need to be committed, but if you have a unique idea it could be worth it.

Bhagwan 6th September 2009 02:17 AM

The Bot I use & recommend is BetBotPro.
For laying as well as backing.
Aust , UK & US markets.

Its easy to set up & use , unlike many of the others .
It also has a recovery program in it that can do exactly what you are doing .

There are other staking plans as well including the Maria staking plan.

It has its own forum for registered users where ideas are shared.

It also has a free trial.

Cost 70 pounds.

Ill Get There 7th September 2009 02:20 AM

DAY ONE


TRIAL ONE

Market InfoSelectionsWinnerLay PricesProfit/Loss
True06 September 10:34 BST PBarrPremier Park
True06 September 10:43 BST HovePhysco Jay Tee
True06 September 10:48 BST PBarr6. Sourhill Cha
True06 September 10:58 BST Hove5. Katie Two 4. Shandon Max5. Katie Two|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 11:04 BST PBarr6. Surelines Driver 1. Treaty County6. Surelines Driver|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 11:13 BST Hove4. Jamaican Firefly
True06 September 11:18 BST PBarr6. Kahara Desert 4. Highfire Blue6. Kahara Desert|M0.25@6.600.25
True06 September 11:27 BST Hove5. Wayward Tel 3. Lols Lee5. Wayward Tel|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 11:32 BST PBarr6. Huggies Lord 4. Schofield Kenny6. Huggies Lord|M0.25@7.000.25
True06 September 11:42 BST Hove3. Farmers Mate 6. Swift Osprey3. Farmers Mate|M0.03@6.80|M0.22@6.800.25
True06 September 11:47 BST PBarr2. Sams Boy 5. Codeword2. Sams Boy|M0.25@6.400.25
True06 September 11:58 BST Hove4. Cushie Lady 6. Disguised Choice4. Cushie Lady|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 12:04 BST PBarr4. Kilcarrig Jack 1. Ardcoohig Emma4. Kilcarrig Jack|M0.25@8.000.25
True06 September 12:12 BST Hove1. Lets Shine 2. Westmead Sam1. Lets Shine|M0.25@6.800.25
True06 September 12:19 BST PBarr4. Tyrur Cassie 1. Dalcash Scholes4. Tyrur Cassie|M0.25@5.900.25
True06 September 12:27 BST Hove2. Natural Buzz 4. Downdaniel Earl2. Natural Buzz|M0.25@7.200.25
True06 September 12:33 BST PBarr2. Clonakenny Mary 6. Kewells Wish2. Clonakenny Mary|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 12:44 BST Hove2. Sheer Indulgence 3. Tidy Jules2. Sheer Indulgence|M0.25@6.400.25
True06 September 12:51 BST PBarr6. Pluckanes Mike
True06 September 12:58 BST Hove6. Corrib Magic 1. Finlays Meadows6. Corrib Magic|M0.25@6.600.25
True06 September 13:06 BST PBarr4. Six Gold Bars 5. Similar Sound4. Six Gold Bars|M0.25@7.000.25
True06 September 13:12 BST Hove5. Good Lark
True06 September 13:21 BST Oxfd2. Spike Preview
True06 September 13:28 BST Kinsl1. Highview Jet 1. Highview Jet1. Highview Jet|M0.25@5.80 -1.20
True06 September 13:38 BST Oxfd5. Suil Star 5. Suil Star5. Suil Star|M1.45@6.00 -7.25
True06 September 13:44 BST Kinsl6. Watchdog
True06 September 13:52 BST Oxfd5. Gorbals Blueboy Bridgets Love (Res)5. Gorbals Blueboy|M8.70@6.608.70
True06 September 13:58 BST Kinsl3. Snipers Half Lit Minglers Mobile (Res)3. Snipers Half Lit|M0.25@6.200.25
True06 September 14:06 BST Oxfd4. Shelbourne Duffy 2. Hycos Tiger4. Shelbourne Duffy|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 14:13 BST Kinsl1. Wee Poker Face 2. Markeys Vixen1. Wee Poker Face|M0.25@6.800.25
True06 September 14:22 BST Oxfd4. Emly Park 6. Pennys Ford4. Emly Park|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 14:27 BST Kinsl2. April Sarah Daisyfield Mel (Res)2. April Sarah|M0.25@6.800.25
True06 September 14:37 BST Oxfd1. Ringsend Rogue 1. Ringsend Rogue1. Ringsend Rogue|M0.25@6.80 -1.45
True06 September 14:43 BST Kinsl1. Dromlara Cahill 3. Mistley Hall1. Dromlara Cahill|M1.18@7.60|M0.52@7.801.70
True06 September 14:53 BST Oxfd4. Cahermore Tucks 2. Romily Flash4. Cahermore Tucks|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 14:59 BST Kinsl6. Paddys Ferrari 2. Walworth Ryan6. Paddys Ferrari|M0.25@6.200.25
True06 September 15:08 BST Oxfd4. Ardmayle Bid 5. Wrong Road4. Ardmayle Bid|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 15:14 BST Kinsl5. Fine Star 1. Coxgreen Black5. Fine Star|M0.25@8.000.25
True06 September 15:22 BST Oxfd3. Crown Simba
True06 September 15:28 BST Kinsl3. Athlacca Eagle 4. Harkins Flyer3. Athlacca Eagle|M0.19@6.20|M0.06@6.400.25
True06 September 15:37 BST Oxfd6. Jo Jo Go 3. Killishin Big6. Jo Jo Go|M0.25@7.000.25
True06 September 15:46 BST Kinsl2. Orchid Girl 4. Socks Kelly2. Orchid Girl|M0.20@6.80|M0.05@6.800.25
True06 September 15:54 BST Oxfd4. Blondies aaaaa 1. Twiggys Best4. Blondies aaaaa|M0.25@7.800.25
True06 September 16:04 BST Kinsl1. Minty Kim 3. Five Fiddlers1. Minty Kim|M0.25@7.800.25
True06 September 16:11 BST Oxfd3. Broadacres Saba
True06 September 16:18 BST Kinsl1. Shelbourne Prime 5. Butterbridge Zee1. Shelbourne Prime|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 16:27 BST Oxfd3. Lahana Premier 2. General Classic3. Lahana Premier|M0.25@7.600.25
True06 September 16:33 BST Kinsl5. Galway Bell 6. Wicklow Head5. Galway Bell|M0.25@6.400.25
True06 September 16:44 BST Oxfd6. Hey Martina 4. Princess Trixi6. Hey Martina|M0.25@7.400.25
True06 September 16:49 BST Kinsl5. Granahan Blueboy 3. Coonough Classic5. Granahan Blueboy|M0.25@7.800.25

goty0405 7th September 2009 06:33 AM

Recovering staking is quite risky, espeically for lay betting.

In the bets listed from yesterday there were 2 consecutive losing bets but it meant the stake had grown from 0.25 to 8.70...matched at 6.60 the total risk was $48.72. If that bet turned out to be a losing one then trouble is brewing...the next lay is over $50 meaning a risk of around $375 based on the average prices matched.

And that's only 3 consecutive losing bets! I'd hate to see 4...

Even a system with a 90% strike rate has a 25% chance of a losing run being 4 bets. That means, in theory, 1 in every 4 losing runs will hit 4.

Bhagwan 12th September 2009 03:02 AM

That's true if betting to recover 100% over 1 bet.
Very risky if bit 3 in a row which can & does happen.

What works better, is target
120%
Over 2-6 bets.

e.g.
60% x 2bts
or
40% x 3bts
or
30% x 4bts
or
24% x 5 bts
or
20% x 6bts


Using 6 cycles.

That way it makes a profit over a series of successful bets & takes into account the commission as well.

Of course the longer the bet sequence , the greater the chance of being bit again but less exposure each time we are bit.

Bet ratio 1000/1

Ill Get There 12th September 2009 07:15 AM

tried this last nite odds 6-8 any dogs uk and with out recovery got no where.

True11 September 10:03 BST Oxfd3. Ardmayle Trooper 6. Squashedtomatoes3. Ardmayle Trooper|M0.08@6.60|M3.54@6.603.62
True11 September 10:11 BST Hove5. Journey Star
True11 September 10:19 BST Oxfd4. Smile On Sveta
True11 September 10:28 BST Hove2. Reagrove Maeve 1. Monkspath Moonie2. Reagrove Maeve|M3.50@6.803.50
True11 September 10:34 BST Oxfd6. Farran Giggs 6. Farran Giggs6. Farran Giggs|M3.28@7.00-19.68
True11 September 10:42 BST Hove1. Buzz Lightyear
True11 September 10:48 BST Oxfd1. Santoi Judy 6. Nikitas Tree1. Santoi Judy|M3.59@6.603.59
True11 September 10:57 BST Hove6. Fionas Choice 3. Flighty Blonde6. Fionas Choice|M3.36@7.003.36
True11 September 11:04 BST Oxfd4. Emly Final 3. Lanody Cooldeed4. Emly Final|M0.66@8.00|M2.14@8.202.80
True11 September 11:12 BST Hove4. Pretty Gina 2. Knockatoon Lady4. Pretty Gina|M1.60@6.40|M2.01@6.403.61
True11 September 11:18 BST Oxfd6. Driving Up Bill
True11 September 11:27 BST Hove6. Revengeful Demon 2. Broadacres Pride6. Revengeful Demon|M3.38@6.803.38
True11 September 11:32 BST Oxfd6. Herachio 5. Aranock Roy6. Herachio|M3.76@6.203.76
True11 September 11:42 BST Hove6. Comeonuspurs 3. Ellie Bay6. Comeonuspurs|M3.18@7.403.18
True11 September 11:47 BST Oxfd1. Swift Jasper 5. Gorbals Molly1. Swift Jasper|M3.63@6.603.63
True11 September 11:58 BST Hove4. Retro Spect
True11 September 12:04 BST Oxfd4. Swift Ramsay 4. Swift Ramsay4. Swift Ramsay|M3.09@7.60-20.39
True11 September 12:12 BST Hove3. Farmers Mate
True11 September 12:19 BST Oxfd4. Enchantedmorning 1. Bee Three Thirty4. Enchantedmorning|M4.04@6.004.04

Ill Get There 12th September 2009 07:22 AM

also horses with recovery

False11 September 12:35 BST DoncMisheer Misheer|M16.00@2.6816.00
False11 September 12:55 BST BangRockys Pride Rockys Pride|M16.00@1.8516.00
False11 September 13:05 BST Donc
False11 September 13:15 BST SandRacy Racy|M4.10@2.38|M11.90@2.3816.00
False11 September 13:30 BST BangOgee Ogee|M16.00@3.15-34.40
False11 September 13:40 BST DoncAskar Tau Askar Tau|M45.00@3.70-121.50
False11 September 13:50 BST Sand
False11 September 13:55 BST KilbPay The Ferryman Pay The Ferryman|M93.95@2.4093.95
False11 September 14:05 BST BangKells Castle Kells Castle|M16.00@3.1016.00
False11 September 14:15 BST DoncSeta Seta|M60.00@1.6360.00
False11 September 14:25 BST SandHot Prospect Hot Prospect|M6.00@1.60-3.60
False11 September 14:30 BST Kilb
False11 September 14:40 BST BangGrand Opera Grand Opera|M7.80@4.207.80
False11 September 14:50 BST DoncJimmy Styles Jimmy Styles|M6.00@3.706.00
False11 September 15:00 BST SandStoic Stoic|M6.00@3.00-12.00
False11 September 15:00 BST KilbDashing Ruby Dashing Ruby|M6.00@5.70-28.20
False11 September 15:15 BST BangAnother Trump Another Trump|M26.10@2.0626.10
False11 September 15:20 BST DownR
False11 September 15:25 BST Donc
False11 September 15:30 BST Kilb
False11 September 15:35 BST Sand
False11 September 15:45 BST Bang
False11 September 15:50 BST DownR


Midnight Mover Midnight Mover|M9.66@3.25|M15.45@3.30|M3.48@3.30|M7.51@3.30 36.09


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