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Chrome Prince 17th July 2013 02:22 AM

Best On Breeding
 
For an excercise thought it would be fun to go through the prepost faves and list the best on breeding and see how they perform.

Doomben
Race 2
DASHING SUPREME
By Niello - Cerebral

Race 5
DANE PRINCESS
By Snippetson - Danaria

Race 6
PURE PURRFECTION
By General Nediym - She's Purring

Race 9
GOTITALLWRONG
By Falvelon - Dantibes'

Randwick
Race 1
AUSSIES LOVE SPORT
By Redoute's Choice - Miss Jakeo

Balaklava
Race 4
MARION TYPE
By Reset - Sabkha

Race 6
RICH PRIDE
By Danerich - Flag Of Pride

Werribee
Race 1
DANAPAISE
By Danzero - Apaiser

Race 4
DRIFTING CUBE
By Encosta De Lago - Sliding Cube

Race 6
ADOBOLI
By Nadeem - Myskina

Race 7
LUNA LANG
By Clangalang - Alunasu

Also what's interesting is that all the favourites I did leave out, there were second and third favourites that had very good breeding.

CosMos 17th July 2013 09:41 AM

If I may add my little bit of fun Mr Prince. Based on breeding and 4 race filters. Played with this one a year ago briefly and showed promise though small sample. Picks good dividends. Rating in brackets determined from best rating last 12 months along with race filter + or - points. Initial qualifiers based upon breeding sire/damsire


Randwick:
R2: Nissile (40), Black Jag (38)
R3: Chez harmony (47)
R4: Sheniyan (43), Wine 'N' Dine (42), Houston Benefactor (37)
R5: Empress Milly (42)
R6: Maluti (36)
R7: Red Dynamite (39), Brunner (35)

Doomben:
R1: Fastnet Heart (40), Shamtilly Lace (30)
R4: Anonymiss Kitty (28)
R6: Pure Purrfection (45)
R7: Pure Whisper (39), Classic Bend (35), Masterful Play (33)
R8: Mareeza (47)
R9: Gotitallwrong (43)

Chrome Prince 17th July 2013 05:04 PM

Doomben
Race 2
DASHING SUPREME 2nd
By Niello - Cerebral

Race 5
DANE PRINCESS
By Snippetson - Danaria 2nd

Race 6
PURE PURRFECTION Unplaced
By General Nediym - She's Purring

Race 9
GOTITALLWRONG SCRATCHED
By Falvelon - Dantibes'

Randwick
Race 1
AUSSIES LOVE SPORT Unplaced
By Redoute's Choice - Miss Jakeo

Balaklava
Race 4
MARION TYPE SCRATCHED
By Reset - Sabkha

Race 6
RICH PRIDE 2nd
By Danerich - Flag Of Pride

Werribee
Race 1
DANAPAISE WON $2.30 Best Tote
By Danzero - Apaiser

Race 4
DRIFTING CUBE Unplaced
By Encosta De Lago - Sliding Cube

Race 6
ADOBOLI Unplaced
By Nadeem - Myskina

Race 7
LUNA LANG Unplaced
By Clangalang - Alunasu

There we have it punters, the very best bred, the very most expensive thoroughbreds running today, one lonesome winner and they were all prepost favourites.
The makings of a very lucrative lay system ;)

9 selections
1 winner
Return $2.30 Best tote
Loss On Turnover 74.44%

stugots 17th July 2013 05:44 PM

Mayhap the depths of winter is not the best showground for our bluebloods to display their wares?

Chrome Prince 17th July 2013 06:02 PM

That's true stugots, but if they can't crack a winter midweek, and the ratings have them favourite, then Spring is beyond them I reckon.
However, credit where it is due, Photon Willie a $750,000 purchase did win at Randwick today, but they've got a very long way to go, to recoup $750,000 in stakes plus an average of $200 a day training fees!

CosMos 17th July 2013 07:41 PM

Randwick:
R2: Nissile (40), Black Jag (38) 3rd
R3: Chez harmony (47)
R4: Sheniyan (43) 2nd, Wine 'N' Dine (42) 3rd, Houston Benefactor (37)
R5: Empress Milly (42)
R6: Maluti (36)
R7: Red Dynamite (39) scr, Brunner (35) scr

Doomben:
R1: Fastnet Heart (40) 1st, Shamtilly Lace (30)
R4: Anonymiss Kitty (28) 3rd
R6: Pure Purrfection (45)
R7: Pure Whisper (39) 2nd, Classic Bend (35), Masterful Play (33) 3rd
R8: Mareeza (47) 3rd
R9: Gotitallwrong (43) scr

Chrome Prince 17th July 2013 10:39 PM

There you go Cosmos, another angle you contributed which reflects my results as well.
By the way, very nice site, I had a good read.
Some great writing!

SpeedyBen 17th July 2013 11:14 PM

I read an interesting report a couple of years ago which examined all horses which had sold for a million or more in Oz yearling sales. I think there were 16 or so and one had won back its purchase price. A couple had won a couple of hundred thousand and the rest had won trifling amounts.
It also showed that the only group which had shown a profit overall were in the $60k - $80k purchase price group.
A rich man's ego fest best describes the outlay on most of the top lots.

Lord Greystoke 17th July 2013 11:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpeedyBen
A rich man's ego fest best describes the outlay on most of the top lots.
More like a numb nuts moment. You don't often get rich(or stay that way) by paying way over the odds, surely?

LG

Chrome Prince 18th July 2013 12:27 AM

Speedy,
You're right on the money!
A lot of trainers and big investors have gone broke or nearly given the game away due to hyped purchases.
I remember old Bart made some bad decisions, and at one point Gai.
Mike Willesee also nearly went belly up.
(matters of public record).
Generally the owner breeders are the one's that have propped up the industry.
And sadly these days that is really the only way not to end up with empty pockets.
Gerry Harvey, Inghams, Singo, Darley, Coolmore, Arrowfield, etc etc.
If the horse performs, they get the prizemoney and the ongoing stud fees, plus their own progeny.
If the horse doesn't, it's usually very well bred, and they can still recoup losses over time at stud. At some time, they'll throw a good enough one.


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