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goldmember 9th June 2004 12:59 PM

CARLTON v HAWTHORN

Carlton have lost their last 5 games against hawthorn, with this game being the 1st played between them at docklands.

last 4 games:
R17 2001 HAWTHORN 96-93 @ M.C.G
R 8 2002 HAWTHORN 89-80 @ M.C.G
R 6 2003 HAWTHORN 74-63 @ OPTUS OVAL
R21 2003 HAWTHORN 138-64 @ M.C.G

W/BULLDOGS v ST KILDA

This is the 1st time these teams have met at the M.C.G since 1961,[with stkilda winning 69-60].

last 4 games:
R16 2001 W/BULLDOGS 112-78 @ DOCKLANDS
R12 2002 W/BULLDOGS 133-86 @ DOCKLANDS
R 6 2003 ST KILDA 100-85 @ DOCKLANDS
R21 2003 ST KILDA 95-30 @ YORK PK TAS.


ESSENDON v BRIS LIONS

Essendon have won 6/11 against the lions, losing 5 straight before winning their last clash, both have 1 win each at docklands.

last 4 games:
R 3 2002 BRIS LIONS 117-67 @ GABBA
R18 2002 BRIS LIONS 108-71 @ DOCKLANDS
R 1 2003 BRIS LIONS 104-61 @ GABBA
R16 2003 ESSENDON 94-86 @ DOCKLANDS

WEST COAST v ADELAIDE

W/coast have won 6/8 at subiaco against the crows,but but only 1 of the last 6 played.

last 4 games:
R13 2002 W/COAST 135-117 @ SUBIACO
R 4 2003 ADELAIDE 106-73 @ AAMI STADIUM
R19 2003 ADELAIDE 91-67 @ SUBIACO
E/F 2003 ADELAIDE 113-57 @ AAMI STADIUM

PORT ADELAIDE v SWANS

Port have won 4/10 against the swans, with both teams winning 2 each at AAMI stadium in 4 encounters there.

last 4 games:
R11 2001 SWANS 125-78 @ S.C.G
R15 2002 PT ADEL 94-92 @ S.C.G
R13 2003 PT ADEL 99-60 @ AAMI STADIUM
Q/F 2003 SWANS 100-88 @ AAMI STADIUM

GEELONG v KANGAROOS

Geelong have won 1 of their last 9 games against the kangaroos and have lost their last 3 at skilled stadium to them.

last 4 games:
R 3 2002 GEELONG 75-67 @ DOCKLANDS
R18 2002 KANGAROOS 115-51 @ SKILLED STADIUM
R 2 2003 KANGAROOS 94-71 @ SKILLED STADIUM
R17 2003 KANGAROOS 104-86 @ MANUKA OVAL

RICHMOND v FREEMANTLE

Richmond have won 9/14 against the dockers, and all 4 played at the M.C.G

last 4 games:
R 4 2002 FREEMANTLE 138-72 @ SUBIACO
R19 2002 RICHMOND 122-72 @ M.C.G
R 3 2003 RICHMOND 94-46 @ M.C.G
R18 2003 FREEMANTLE 104-81 @ SUBIACO

MELBOURNE v COLLINGWOOD

The demons and magpies have won 3 each in their last 6 games at the m.c.g

last 4 games:
R14 2000 MELBOURNE 143-78 @ M.C.G
R11 2001 COLLINGWOOD 134-57 @ M.C.G
R11 2002 COLLINGWOOD 126-75 @ M.C.G
R11 2003 COLLINGWOOD 133-77 @ M.C.G



[ This Message was edited by: goldmember on 2004-06-09 14:20 ]

sportznut 9th June 2004 01:55 PM

Hmmm, those stats in the Geelong/Kangaroos game are interesting. I've got Geelong winning, but maybe I should have a rethink. :???:

It's a tricky round this week, because Adelaide also have a good record in Perth.

[ This Message was edited by: sportznut on 2004-06-09 14:58 ]

goldmember 9th June 2004 02:02 PM

sportz, woud you say geelong is in better form than the roos or about the same

MyHatMyCoat 9th June 2004 02:04 PM

Geelong for me. In far better form overall.

goldmember 9th June 2004 02:17 PM

Think the lions might win also, as essendon played port,st kilda in R1,2 and were beaten easily and the only team of note they have played since then, was the swans, and they were lucky to win. As for bris, they played the swans in R1 and beat them, 1pt loss to st kilda[ blind umpire]and their last 2, melb and port have been easy wins. They are beating teams hire up on the ladder, essendon is in form against lower placed teams, so my way of thinking, lions to win, I might be wrong, but i hope i'm not.

sportznut 9th June 2004 02:37 PM

I think Geelong is in better form and are also probably a better team, but those stats are VERY impressive for the Kangaroos.

goldmember 9th June 2004 02:39 PM

so are richmonds , but would you back them against freemantle?

moeee 9th June 2004 02:53 PM

Quote:
On 2004-06-09 15:39, goldmember wrote:
so are richmonds , but would you back them against freemantle?


Gee,you make a pretty strong case right there to give the betting game away.What stats should you in fact use to make the selection?
On those statistics,my prices need to be completely reversed.
Similar with the Geelong game.I have the Cats 5 points better than the Roos at the moment.
My guts told me to give the Cats a 7 point home advantage.Surely your stats aren't telling me to give the Roos the advantage.
Maybe the advantage should be zero.

I think we all need to analyze where we went wrong,after the event,rather than celebrating where we went right.



sportznut 9th June 2004 02:55 PM

I certainly don't think Fremantle are any specials. If you look on the other thread, you'll notice that my ratings have actually picked a draw in that game. While I don't honestly expect that to happen, I do think it might be close. If Richmond are given any sort of points start, I might back them.

goldmember 9th June 2004 03:06 PM

I know it was against ESSENDON, but freemantle's 1st half was, according to one commentator on the radio "rubbish" but i couldn't pick richmond, although remember earlier in the year they copped 4 floggings in a row, then beat hawthorn,swans and w/bulldogs. SO I HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE


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