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Westys 11th July 2004 08:55 PM

I would like to find a system for rating a consistant winner within every 12 or so races. This i would like to trial and in return would hand back a system for betting management that is sensible and suited for your ratings system. These two elements combined will definantly prove profitable.

partypooper 12th July 2004 05:14 PM

Westys, not sure what youre looking for but simply backing the favourite or even pre-post favourite will give you about 30% winners (or about 1 in 3 ) if you want better odds just take the first horse in the pre-post betting forcast quoted at 5-1 or better this will give you about 15% winners. Of course in both cases it will result in a level satkes loss, so your staking plan will need to be something special!!



partypooper 13th July 2004 05:04 PM

Westys, most of the members here could find that 5-1 winner in 15 races ON AVERAGE (that represents 6.66% strike rate and a loss on turnover at levels of 60%)

What none of us can guarantee is how they fall, ie, you can have 5 winnrs in a row followed by 17 losers (eg. only)

Westys 13th July 2004 06:53 PM

last 2 nights have been trialling top jockey ...did no good then trainer....did no good then jockey trainer combination .....did no good and a host of other ideas . Problem is not finding the frequent winner it is finding the frequent winner at value which suggets to look for odds ,see im looking for a winner every 12 or so races as guaranteed as possible while paying at least 5 bucks . Where im at with it now is selecting the 3rd fav in every sat race and the results were from flemington ,randwick ,eaglefarm and morphettville . 27 races 3 winners paying $5+ with a $387....not bad BUT i went to the 12th race before i nailed a winner. Now 12 races on the first day of the trial seems too unstable

Westys 13th July 2004 06:57 PM

Must find a way to consistanly get the winner every 15 races ....then quit work lol

davez 14th July 2004 08:06 AM

Quote:
On 2004-07-13 19:57, Westys wrote:
Must find a way to consistanly get the winner every 15 races ....then quit work lol




Will you fall into a screaming heap if you went 15 without a winner? Will you have a backup bank?

To regularly back a 4/1+ winner, all you really need to do is simply select the 1st horse in a reliable market at better than 4/1, apply a few sensible filters & put your hard earned on. It will be highly unlikely you will go 15 races in a row without a winner, but it will happen from time to time, therefore the need for backup banks.

Simple eh! :smile:

partypooper 14th July 2004 11:55 AM

Westys, I operated a "cover to Win" system successfully in England for almost 2 years, b4 the crash came at a Cheltenham 4 day meeting without a single winner. I lost everything I'd made and more besides. With the benefit of hindsight I now realise like Davez says its better to have "maximum" that youre prepared to blow in one run, then have reserve banks to fall back on "WHEN" it happens.
Another method of selection that you may like to try out is working down from TAB no 1, take the first last start winner, this produces about 25% winners, its fairly consistent, some of course are favourits but also some at very good odds. Last Sat was not a good day for this one , but thats just it, no matter what method, you will never be consistent all the time.

As Davez says as well, its probably better to take the first one in the pre-post quoted at 4-1 rather than just the 3rd fav.
You could also refine this futher by saying : The first one quoted at 4-1 that is a last start winner. OR you could take the firs one quoted at 4-1 as the basic selection but only include IF a last start winner, all good stuff isn't it?

jimmyc_dogs 15th July 2004 12:08 PM

honestly guys, is there ANY proven winning systems??? if there was wouldent everyone have the system, and every punter be richer rather than poorer???

i do believe there are good systems out there (as proven on this web site) but none that can consistantly pic good winners, week in and week out.............

jimmy

davez 15th July 2004 02:00 PM

jimmy, really dont know if there are any gooduns out there, but i would think that if someone has got his hands on one that he would be mightly foolish to divulge it!


puntz 15th July 2004 06:16 PM



[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2004-07-24 23:05 ]


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