OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums

OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums (http://forums.ozmium.com.au/index.php)
-   Horse Racing (http://forums.ozmium.com.au/forumdisplay.php?f=5)
-   -   Is this Copyright? -please explain (http://forums.ozmium.com.au/showthread.php?t=17155)

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 10:23 AM

Is this Copyright? -please explain
 
Moderator can you please explain why the site racing trades dot com has threads from this site posted under different id names please?
i recently posted a thread on a horse called Ultimate Risk that involved both Chrome Prince & myself. I now find it on this other site under different names not to mention other threads from here.
Why would my posts come up under a site i have nothing to do with please?

Any post i make under the name King Cugat or anyone else makes under their log in name shouldnt be used any where else under a different author. Its called copyright! its also against media laws.

AngryPixie 22nd January 2008 11:09 AM

I'm hurt. Nothing I've posted about seems worthy of copying :( ;)

************************.com

Registered in Australia to a Gold Coast Post Office Box. Well that figures.

Site hosted from Silicon Valley Infomedia. Looks to be in Texas though the contact address is in India Mr Mod.

lomaca 22nd January 2008 11:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by AngryPixie
I'm hurt. Nothing I've posted about seems worthy of copying


Don't worry AngryPixie,
I am sure you have been copied too. Why, even Benny's thread, about spreadsheets is there, word for word, with all the other comments, under different nicks.
My posts appear under different names as well, and until this morning I never even knew the site existed.
If they want to scoop up my inconsequential and useless offerings, they are welcome to it.
Cheers

Chiquita 22nd January 2008 11:37 AM

they've mirrored the Summer Punting Comp thread but have forgot to change forumite names already imbedded in the posts LOL

Chiquita 22nd January 2008 11:40 AM

wonder if they'll mirror this thread LOL LOL

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 11:49 AM

As i dont run either site i'm not financially any worse off for copyright infingements.

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"

AngryPixie 22nd January 2008 11:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lomaca
Why, even Benny's thread, about spreadsheets is there


You mean Darrell's thread :D

AngryPixie 22nd January 2008 11:50 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cugat
As i dont run either site i'm not financially any worse off for copyright infingements.

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"


See what you mean Fergie :p

Sportz 22nd January 2008 11:50 AM

What the....? This is a disgrace. They've taken all my ratings and posted them all there under different names. I mean, every single days thread has a different user name attached to it. How bizarre.

Shaun 22nd January 2008 11:51 AM

Send them a nice please explain e-mail and see what you get back.

Shaun 22nd January 2008 11:52 AM

They would be using some automated software to do this, wonder if this thread will end up there.

lomaca 22nd January 2008 11:53 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cugat
My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"


Hi KC!
Now, for that I would sue!!!
Good luck

AngryPixie 22nd January 2008 12:05 PM

Look's like they actually want you to give them access to your Betfair account so they can bet on your behalf. Where do I sign up? :eek:

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 12:05 PM

Quote:

Welcome to ************************.com. The definitive home of thoroughbred and sports wagering. ************************.com has been designed to help you win more consistently from wagering on mainly horse racing but also sports events. The analytical processes put into place by us are absolutely first class and mostly different from any other similar type of service on the internet and this is what sets us apart.

the bottom lines

Dwayne..... back to our original arguement ....and you say theres no corruption in the horse industry :)

lomaca hi.....dont call me Sue

Shaun 22nd January 2008 12:11 PM

Well i just gave them a call and explain the situation to the guy on the phone, he says he will check it out and get back to me in a few hours, this will be interesting.

peterpan 22nd January 2008 12:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cugat
As i dont run either site i'm not financially any worse off for copyright infingements.

My issue is........ being refered to as "Ferguson"

Thats not as bad as Chrome Prince being called Gladys on the seeding thread.

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
Well i just gave them a call and explain the situation to the guy on the phone, he says he will check it out and get back to me in a few hours, this will be interesting.

Hi i was after Cyril please......

Crackone 22nd January 2008 03:07 PM

have not looked at the site but I think once anything is published on the net (public domain) I think it can be copied and evan sold.

lomaca 22nd January 2008 03:08 PM

Equal opportunity filtch
 
Well I have to give them 10 out of 10 for a marketing ploy, and for being an equal opportunity filch.
They have whole pages of other forums as well.
Must say, if I had written the parsing routine for them I would have been more imaginative with the names.
I bet their hits had increased beyond expectations.

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 04:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackone
have not looked at the site but I think once anything is published on the net (public domain) I think it can be copied and evan sold.

Cracky, your prob right.
If it was actually someting important in the world Media Watch would be all over it. They love that type of thing. I think the difference here is that they havent taken pieces of information and combined it with other info & their own thoughts as most journos do to make up their stories. They have actually taken posts in their entire content and then added false names.

crash 22nd January 2008 04:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cugat
Moderator can you please explain why the site racing trades dot com has threads from this site posted under different id names please?
i recently posted a thread on a horse called Ultimate Risk that involved both Chrome Prince & myself. I now find it on this other site under different names not to mention other threads from here.
Why would my posts come up under a site i have nothing to do with please?

Any post i make under the name King Cugat or anyone else makes under their log in name shouldnt be used any where else under a different author. Its called copyright! its also against media laws.


Your wrong, you have no copyright. Read the rules.
When you signed up as a member you agreed that anything you print here is owned by the site. The fact is anything you or any member prints here is copyrighted to the forum owners. They can use it anyway they like , even sell it. Nobody reads the rules of membership.

suds 22nd January 2008 04:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Your wrong, you have no copyright. Read the rules.
When you signed up as a member you agreed that anything you print here is owned by the site. The fact is anything you or any member prints here is copyrighted to the forum owners. They can use it anyway they like , even sell it. Nobody reads the rules of membership.


interesting to see what this forum owners do (as a follow-up), if they really do have legal right to this forums content.

Chiquita 22nd January 2008 04:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by suds
interesting to see what this forum owners do (as a follow-up), if they really do have legal right to this forums content.


good point suds

anyone check their post times
were they clever enough to make it look like they did it first?

Chiquita 22nd January 2008 04:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cugat
our threads are in their full under false names << thats the issue. My thoughts are under someone elses name.
Some of the boys in here who take so much time to put together ratings etc...they are not getting the credit for it.
How do you think they feel.
We deserve an answer...


agree KC...a lot of time & effort put in by many forumites

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 04:43 PM

added so re-replyed

our threads are in their full under false names << thats the issue. My thoughts are under someone elses name. If it was my name i would see how it works but under different names = purposely misleading <<< thats the point....purposely misleading. Sell posts, name goes with it.
Some of the boys in here like Sportz who take so much time to put together ratings etc...they are not getting the credit for what they do.
How do you think they feel.
Opinions are 1 thing to buy and sell but when someone is shown to have put in time in a specialised field where others can advantage (ratings)it would be decent to tell them where their knowledge is being sent other then where they originally post their articles << which is where they feel comfortable with posting and am happy to share with those they know for free who perhaps have helped them at one stage in return
Sports goes to alot of effort. Ok if they put his name together with those ratings on another site then no damage to his good reputation. For Sportz to go over there and see that everybody but him is getting credit for HIS work..... << copyright is the word regardless of what rules state here.
If they said we can go into your bank account and withdraw all your money upon signing up here.....that doesnt make it legal. They can type whatever they want....doesnt mean its law.
Im not even saying they [pro punter] know anything about it. i would be surprised if they did
We deserve an answer...sportz especially. Regardless of whether it was sold or stolen.

Stix 22nd January 2008 04:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sportz
What the....? This is a disgrace. They've taken all my ratings and posted them all there under different names. I mean, every single days thread has a different user name attached to it. How bizarre.

LOL.... Collingwood !!!! :D That IS Gold !!!

Sportz 22nd January 2008 05:11 PM

Yeah, out of all names, that is one I certainly wouldn't have chosen!!! :eek:

Horse Whisperer 22nd January 2008 05:22 PM

I found my posts under heaps of different names.

Carter
Nathaniel
Zeo
Timothy
ajasoni

lol where do they get these names from

Also maybe the fact the mods havnt reply'd might be due to the fact they have something to do with the forum or are selling the posts?

crash 22nd January 2008 05:50 PM

Print anything here and it is no longer yours. Every member has agreed. Ignorance of the rules just doesn't cut it ... weep all you want.

King Cugat 22nd January 2008 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Print anything here and it is no longer yours. Every member has agreed. Ignorance of the rules just doesn't cut it ... weep all you want.
if someone typed something on this site that nobody took offence to. Then it was sold to another site & for whatever reason someone in another country did take offence to it OR what was said was brought to be injust in another country and someone from this other country decided to take legal action. They claim in writing to have been to the 'other site' to find this piece of evidence & have never seen the original site that it was posted on, perhaps because it wasnt written in their language or whatever. Who would be held liable? The poster or the seller of information from one site to the other? Does the shoe fit the same foot all the time?

Crash your not listening to the question being asked. Its theirs to own we understand, there is no ignorance. They can sell ....sure
The question is >> re-printing words / Paragraphs / in full under someone elses name where its obvious its done so to mislead the public. Also should the name of the poster be carried over in the selling process if its to be re-used again with the intent of not adding any further information to it. Do you or do you not know the answer that question 100% correctly Crash? The question of being morally just to those that keep your site running is the next one after that

Shaun 22nd January 2008 06:37 PM

What are the odds this info was sold by this site 10/9 , 2/1 , 5/1 , 7/1 , 10/1

AngryPixie 22nd January 2008 07:12 PM

I'd be very surprised if the posts have been sold. My guess is that the other forum is being padded with fake posts in an attempt to add some weight and substance behind whatever it is that they are trying to sell. If it looks like people are around then something good must be going on. What's the bet that you can't even post to it.

lomaca 22nd January 2008 07:30 PM

KC!
it's all fixed! I am "Ferguson" now. LOL
If you check one thread on that site (under the same name) that had generated quite a discussion here a few weeks back, I'm quoted twice, once as Declan and once as Ferguson
I think this is like Angry said, they try to simulate traffic, but it's a joke, the posts are disconnected and make little sense most of the time.
Cheers

DR RON 22nd January 2008 08:35 PM

I just posted a message on there which shows up on the forum listing but the post dosent show up when I view the topic?

Stix 22nd January 2008 10:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by crash
Print anything here and it is no longer yours. Every member has agreed. Ignorance of the rules just doesn't cut it ... weep all you want.
Hope you didn''t have kids crash..... poor little'uns would of known there was no Santa at 6 months !!! :p

crash 23rd January 2008 06:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Cugat
if someone typed something on this site that nobody took offence to. Then it was sold to another site & for whatever reason someone in another country did take offence to it OR what was said was brought to be injust in another country and someone from this other country decided to take legal action. They claim in writing to have been to the 'other site' to find this piece of evidence & have never seen the original site that it was posted on, perhaps because it wasnt written in their language or whatever. Who would be held liable? The poster or the seller of information from one site to the other? Does the shoe fit the same foot all the time?

Crash your not listening to the question being asked. Its theirs to own we understand, there is no ignorance. They can sell ....sure
The question is >> re-printing words / Paragraphs / in full under someone elses name where its obvious its done so to mislead the public. Also should the name of the poster be carried over in the selling process if its to be re-used again with the intent of not adding any further information to it. Do you or do you not know the answer that question 100% correctly Crash? The question of being morally just to those that keep your site running is the next one after that


I'm not dumb. I understood the question which I have answered twice. Problem is, some posters are having trouble understanding the broad significance contained in my simple answer, which I'm not going to repeat.

King Cugat 23rd January 2008 07:12 AM

[QUOTE THE GRINCH]I'm not dumb. I understood the question which I have answered twice. Problem is, some posters are having trouble understanding the broad significance contained in my simple answer, which I'm not going to repeat.[/QUOTE]
Cut from the other site whilst i was there ^^^^^^^

Bet i can make you repeat it :)

p.s. u didnt answer it. Youve just said what we all know. Refer back to them saying we can withdraw $$ from our accounts if we sign up. We know what they have written doesnt mean its legal. Youve only repeated what they have written or claim they can do..... not whether those claims are actually legal if carried out
Crash do you think they're getting 1/3 or 1/4 of the cut by selling?

Shaun 23rd January 2008 08:14 AM

By the silence from the mods i am shortening the odds these were sold to that other place into $1.o4 any takers?

rabbitz 23rd January 2008 09:05 AM

Moderators on this forum have always been total wimps when it comes to answering Forumites questions
Watch how long it takes this comment to disappear LOL

AngryPixie 23rd January 2008 09:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
By the silence from the mods i am shortening the odds these were sold to that other place into $1.o4 any takers?


No there's stuff from all over the place. Put a few sentences in Google and see.


All times are GMT +10. The time now is 10:24 PM.

Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.