OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums

OZmium Sports Betting and Horse Racing Forums (http://forums.ozmium.com.au/index.php)
-   Horse Race Betting Systems (http://forums.ozmium.com.au/forumdisplay.php?f=10)
-   -   Days Since Last Start. (http://forums.ozmium.com.au/showthread.php?t=22433)

michaelg 8th September 2011 08:59 AM

Days Since Last Start.
 
I've been looking at days since last start in conjunction with Don Scott's prices. Unfortunately I've only been able to check the last three day's racing.

The two rules are:

1) Under $3.00 in Don Scott's market.
2) Last start less then 14 days.

Over the three days there have been 12 selections for 5 winners for a TAB return of $27.00, and 9 placegetters for a return of $14.10. At this very early stage it looks promising, and maybe also with some logic providing his prices are not too inaccurate.

Today's selections:

Ballarat
1/3
6/3

Ballina
5/3

Rocky
2/1


Let's see how they go...

michaelg 8th September 2011 03:03 PM

Not a bad result for the first day of the system.

From the four selections there was one winner of $7.00 and the other three selections finished second paying a total of $6.90.

Bhagwan 8th September 2011 06:17 PM

Well done Michael.

Thats a good result.

It also shows that the other selection were close to the mark which is encouraging.

The Ocho 8th September 2011 08:40 PM

Well done Michaelg. It looks good already. Maybe you can have them for the win but also have an all-up/parlay bet for the place. You only lose the 1 unit if the horse losers but keep going all up for the place for 3 or 4 races in a row and you never know.

michaelg 9th September 2011 07:50 AM

Yes, so far so good. If it continues I will consider all-ups/parlays.

Today's selections are:

Geelong
2/9
6/6

Ipswich
3/8

Dubbo
7/2

Taree
4/10

The Ocho 9th September 2011 11:00 AM

No worries michaelg. I'm in Victoria and only have a TAB account where I can't go all up or parlay unless the picks are at the same venue. Strange. Unless I'm doing something wrong?

michaelg 9th September 2011 03:55 PM

I'm not certain but I think here in NSW we also can't have all-ups with multiple venues.

Not a bad day today. From the 5 selections there were two winners paying a total of $7.60, and four placegetters (the losing selection ran third in a NTD race) paying a total of $7.70.

The Ocho 9th September 2011 05:20 PM

Well done again michaelg. You could definitely be onto something. I hope you don't mind but I placed 50c the win on each selection just for the heck of it. :)

I can't find out but I think BF may have paid 3rd dividend for Geelong race 6 no 6 as there were initially 9 horses in the race but I can't find out if they would have done that.

OM SHARNTEE 9th September 2011 05:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Ocho

I can't find out but I think BF may have paid 3rd dividend for Geelong race 6 no 6 as there were initially 9 horses in the race but I can't find out if they would have done that.
http://racingform.betfair.com.au/market.php?mi=100379923

Scroll downto the % -- & see 208%
So only 2 div

I think they have changed now ie: doing the same as the totes.

Nice one yetagain Michael !!!


Betfair




Win Market $158,484.40 (101.3%)




Place Market $6,057.31 (208.5%0


Merriguy 9th September 2011 06:44 PM

I agree with Sharntee they only paid on two places.

Ocho, although you may not be able to obtain all ups on the tote, you can, of course, obtain the same on Betfair manually.

The Ocho 9th September 2011 06:45 PM

Ok thanks OM Sharntee. I looked there but I didn't see that 200%. I don't know why they just don't list the actual results.

The Ocho 9th September 2011 06:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merriguy
I agree with Sharntee they only paid on two places.

Ocho, although you may not be able to obtain all ups on the tote, you can, of course, obtain the same on Betfair manually.

Yes thanks Merriguy. My bot can even do that but I'm using it to test it on something else.

michaelg 10th September 2011 10:14 AM

Today's selections are:

Belmont
4/7

Kembla
1/2
2/4
6/9

Moonee Valley
1/6

Morphetville
3/7
5/2
6/8

Rosehill
8/10

Toowoomba
4/8


Here's hoping...

michaelg 11th September 2011 08:31 AM

Yesterday's 10 selections produced four winners for a return of $11.40 giving a profit of $1.40 which is a POT of 14%. However betting S.P. on Betfair the return including their 5% commission was $13.46 for a profit of $3.46 which is a POT of 34%.

Place betting lost $1.60.

Today's selections:

Gawler
2/3
8/10

Hobart
8/2

Kalgoorlie
6/7

Moruya
3/2
5/8
6/1

Scone
7/5
8/6

Sun Coast
3/2

Warracknabeal
5/5
6/6

The Ocho 12th September 2011 10:14 AM

As far as I can tell these would be the selections for today:

Warrnambool (VIC) R1 No5 GOTTA TAKE CARE
Warrnambool (VIC) R2 No6 WELLS
Warrnambool (VIC) R3 No8 OMBRA SIERRA

michaelg 12th September 2011 10:42 AM

Hi, The Ocho.

I agree with your selections for today.

Yesterday was a bad day. 12 selections for 2 winners paying a total of $7.40 ($8.54 with Betfair's S.P.) and 4 placegetters for a return of $7.10.

Hopefully today will recoup yesterday's losses.

The Ocho 12th September 2011 01:32 PM

Well done michaelg. Another very impressive result with 2 firsts and a second :)

michaelg 12th September 2011 02:50 PM

It's still in front, in fact it's never been in the red (until tomorrow?)

Since listing the selections from last Thursday there have been 33 bets for 10 winners giving a profit of $6.50 (would be even better with S.P.) but a loss of $0.10 with Place betting.

So far so good.

darkydog2002 12th September 2011 03:39 PM

Good one Michaelg,
As usual logic ,simplicity and good ratings.
Will add this to my Spot Play methods.
Cheers
darky

Bhagwan 13th September 2011 02:48 AM

Would Warrnambool R6/7 have been a selection?

michaelg 13th September 2011 05:49 AM

Bhagwan, you're right. It ran third paying $1.60, ($1.90 on Unitab).

However, if The Ocho and I both missed it I would not be surprised if its price was $3.00-plus before the race and only changed afterwards to $2.10.

Bhagwan 13th September 2011 08:24 AM

You could be right there .

They do tend to have a habit of changing stuff after the event mainly due ,
I believe, to late scratchings.

michaelg 13th September 2011 10:14 AM

One selection today:

Townsville
1/3

darkydog2002 13th September 2011 01:10 PM

Are you noting the TC that they are rated for ?

michaelg 14th September 2011 10:31 AM

Darky, I don't look at the track conditions. I'm hoping D.S. is more or less accurate even though his market is framed a few days prior without knowing the eventual t. condition.

Hope you didn't back yesterday's selection because it was unplaced.

Today's selections:

Murray bridge
5/2
6/2

The Ocho 14th September 2011 11:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Darky, I don't look at the track conditions. I'm hoping D.S. is more or less accurate even though his market is framed a few days prior without knowing the eventual t. condition.

Hope you didn't back yesterday's selection because it was unplaced.

Today's selections:

Murray bridge
5/2
6/2

Hi michaelg

As far as I can make out the picks today are:
Murray Bridge
5/2 only

Newcastle
6/2
7/3
8/6

Although I did do them earlier and Newcastle race 7 was not a pick then but is now.

michaelg 14th September 2011 11:34 AM

Thanks, Ocho. You're selections are correct.

I was mistaking N'cle with/and M. Bridge. On my records I knew I had made a mistake but thought I had corrected it. You will notice on no.25 on this thread that I edited it - unfortunately it was not corrected. Last time this happened it proved to be a profitable day - hopefully this will also happen again today.

darkydog2002 14th September 2011 03:15 PM

Gees Michaelg,
How did I miss that race 6 H 2 Darci Be Good (A moral to get ya on the winning path.)

michaelg 14th September 2011 03:34 PM

Yes, it was a good winner, can't lose today on Win betting. Sorry you missed it. From tomorrow I'll show the names of the selections.

michaelg 15th September 2011 10:08 AM

Only one winner from yesterday's four selections, paying $4.40, and two placegetters paying $2.80.

Today's selections:

Newcastle
2/13 - Price Of China
5/3 - Midnight At Ascot
6/2 - Sweetest Melody

Northam
1/3 - Spirit Of Sandra

The Ocho 15th September 2011 10:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Only one winner from yesterday's four selections, paying $4.40, and two placegetters paying $2.80.

Today's selections:

Newcastle
2/13 - Price Of China
5/3 - Midnight At Ascot
6/2 - Sweetest Melody

Northam
1/3 - Spirit Of Sandra


Northam should be 1/13 Spirit of Sandra :)

michaelg 15th September 2011 11:20 AM

Thanks, Ocho.

I think I need glasses or should check more carefully. Will do so from tomorrow.

Let's hope the selections perform as hoped.

The Ocho 15th September 2011 05:22 PM

Made a little again today michaelg. It's keeping it's head above water (I think).

How are the outgoings and ingoings going? :D

michaelg 15th September 2011 06:42 PM

The method's now been going for 8 days.

There's been 12 winners from 42 selections for a NSW TAB POT of 15.9% (not bad) but a LOT of 3.4% on Place betting.

It's shown a profit in 6 of the 8 days.

Hopefully its not just going through an unusually good but a normal (or particularly bad) period.

michaelg 16th September 2011 10:22 AM

Today's selections are:

Geelong
2/7 - Miss Brilliance
6/6 - Miss Noverre

Ipswich
2/3 - Raffles Miss
5/4 - Gran Torino
7/5 - Tizzy Lizzie

Taree
4/2 - Analie's Daughter

Interestingly, five of the six selections have a "female" theme. I wonder if this means anything?

4legs 16th September 2011 11:19 AM

It appears the time you look at the R&S site has a fair bit to do with the selections.
This morning out of interest - probably 8:30ish I had a look and neither Taree 4/2 or Geelong 2/7 was a selection (the others were) - but I just looked now and they are!

The Ocho 16th September 2011 11:41 AM

That is probably due to scratchings as I have seen the same thing happen.

michaelg 16th September 2011 11:47 AM

4legs,

the two races you mention had scratchings in them. As they would not have been shown at 8.30a.m. they would have affected Don Scott's market.

I will have keep this mind because it's not unusual for the R & S website to be tardy in loading scratchings. I've seen some meetings that at 1.p.m the scratchings still haven't been recorded. Yet they've been shown on the TAB for a few hours.

4legs 16th September 2011 12:33 PM

Thanks for that - it now makes sense.

So in reality you would have to make sure all scratchings are in before you used the DS ratings.

It will be interesting to see what time the scratchings go up on a Saturday as there are about 12 meetings tomorrow.

TWOBETS 16th September 2011 01:01 PM

Auto scratch!
 
4legs, you can always apply the scratchings yourself on the R&S site. Just click the ticks and press 'submit'. michaelg is right about their tardiness. Some days they don't get applied at all!


All times are GMT +10. The time now is 11:36 AM.

Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.