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place2win 3rd October 2011 11:17 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Laying on Betfair can be one heck of a ride
Lets test the following races
Betfair price (Lay) at jump<$6.00
Warwick Farm
Race 1 No 7 Vader
Race 4 No 5 Dragons Keep
7 Redhande Jill
Race 5 No 1 Dehere Hunter
2 Prince Kristen
Race 6 No 9 Dawnfire Dancer
Race 8 No 10 Honourable Aussie

Ballina
Race 2 No 6 Pretty Tess
Race 4 No 3 Da Baker
Race 5 No 7 Federer Express
11 Che Sara Sara
Race 6 No 8 Court Success

Morphettville
Race 5 No 5 Masterr Beckett
8 Sono Piccolo
Race 6 No 6 Cruzero
7 Penzengi
Race 8 No 3 Glancing
5 Mean Jean
7 Arakazel

Wangaratta
Race 6 No 7 Junee Boy
8 Prussian Dancer
Race 7 No 1 Undercurrant
6 Dashing Shadow
8 Final Encounter
Race 8 No 1 Canny Come Inn

place2win 3rd October 2011 01:04 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Add the following:-
Warwick Farm
Race 4 No 3 Riebeck
Race 5 No 5 Maximian
Race 6 No 12 Don't put it there

Morphettville
Race 5 No 7 Quick Thoughts

Ballina
Race 6 No 5 One Carat Racer

place2win 3rd October 2011 06:41 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:-
Quite a ride, didn,t pan out the way we would of liked
but still a good ride.
Positives:-
Vader
Pretty Tess
Dehere Hunter
Federer Express
Court Success
Prussian Dancer
Cruziero
Dashing shadow
Canny Come Inn

Negatives:-
Riebeck (2.2)
Master Beckett (5.2)
Junee Boy (2.45)
Undercurrent (3.5)

Will continue for balance of month, aim to increase bank by 40%
Start Bank = $1000
Unit = 1% = $10
Positives = + $85.5 (after BF com)
Negative = - $93.5 (12+42+14.5+25)
Loss = - $8
New Bank = $992

place2win 3rd October 2011 11:43 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
BF Price (Lay) < $6.00 at Jump

Goulburn
Race 2 No 3 Im Mary Too
Race 3 No 4 Cheerful Dane
Race 4 No 6 Tempo Rouge
Race 5 No 1 Hey Porter
Race 7 No 2 Toby
Race 7 No 6 Senor Dash

Terang
Race 3 No 8 Playawedge
Race 6 No 5 Another Gear
Race 6 No 11 Napash
Race 7 No 6 On My Command
Race 7 No 12 Kings Demand
Race 8 No 6 Brilliant Park

Townsville
Race 2 No 1 Mazuka
Race 3 No 5 Alotta Spur
Race 5 No 4 Rock Alert
Race 5 No 6 Brandy Beau
Race 6 No 6 Molongle
Race 7 No 7 Breakers Path
Race 8 No 1 Grand Silence

Hope to atone, Current Bank $992 (Bet Unit 1%=$10)

Bhagwan 4th October 2011 08:47 AM

A profit would have been easily made out of that lot using the...
Black Box Staking Plan.

place2win 4th October 2011 10:31 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
A profit would have been easily made out of that lot using the...
Black Box Staking Plan.

Thankyou, for the input, Bhagwan.
Currently trialing to see if it stand on it's own feet.
It has been said before, that if it can,t stand-up
to flat stakes then, no amount of agressive staking
will turn it.
I do appreciate all input which may help and will of
course check all avenues.

place2win 4th October 2011 11:30 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Amend: Terang Race 6 No 11 Napash

Delete as is not a contender

place2win 4th October 2011 06:29 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
WELL!!! I doubt anything could of turned us around to-day
Bet Unit = 1%(Original Bank $1000)
Opening Bank $922.00
G2 No 3 (2.9) -19..........$903.00
To2 No 1 (3.6) -26..........$877.00
To3 No 5 (3.1) -21..........$856.00
G4 No 6 +9.5................$865.50
Te7 No 6 (5.4) -4.4.........$821.50
Te7 No12 +9.5...............$831.00
G7 No 6 +9.5...............$840.50
To8 No 1 +9.5...............$850.00
We move forward in hope of an improving day

place2win 5th October 2011 12:22 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
New Day, Wednesday 5/10/2011
Slight change, will reduce the max Lay bet to $5.00
Will also list contenders in race time order.
Bet unit = 1% (Original Bank $1000) =$10... Current Bank $850

Belmont Race 1 No 1 Absolute Cracker (pp3.0) time 12:33

Ballarat Race 2 No 3 Tango Express (pp5.5) time 1:35
No 7 Podsanp (pp5.5)
No 8 Your Grace (pp5.5)

Canterb Race 3 No 1 Fine Drop (pp6.5) time 2:26
No 2 Nextanix (pp3.2)

Gawler Race 5 No 2 Handsome As (pp5.5) time 2:58
No 3 Walcourt (pp7.0)

Belmont Race 5 No 5 Lisetta (pp5.0) time 3:10
No 11 Caldo (pp2.8)

Gawler Race 6 No 6 Sono Piccolo (pp3.0) time 3:38

Belmont Race 6 No 1 Doutable (pp4.0) time 3:45

Bathurst Race 5 No 3 Toranaga (pp5.0) time 3:53

Ballarat Race 6 No 2 Bedouin Express (pp5.0) time 4:00
No 13 Catch a Heart (pp3.5)

DoombenRace 6 No 4 Martha's Vineyard(pp4.0) time 4:08

Gawler Race 7 No 2 Encosta Delight (pp6.0) time 4:18

Canterb Race 6 No 3 Rain Drum (pp2.8) time 4:20
No 5 Ridotto (pp5.5)

Belmont Race 7 No 1 The Widder (pp4.6) time 4:21

DoombenRace 7 No 3 Gotcha (pp5.0) time 4:48
No 5 Wave Dancing (pp5.0)

Belmont Race 8 No 1 Come Flirt w/me (pp3.0) time 4:55
No 2 Prince Kodiak (pp4.6)

Ballarat Race 8 No 1 Simpre Arriba (pp3.5) time 5:20

pp is obtained from **************

place2win 5th October 2011 12:07 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:
Scratchings: Belmont R6 Doutable
Add: Belmont R6 No 12 Cooks Landing
Add: Belmont R4 No 6 Grey Jubilee
Add: Belmont R7 No 1 Elljay

Scratchings: Gawler R 6 Sono Piccolo/ Race 7 Encosta Delight
Scratchings: Canterbury R3 Nextanix

Add; Doomben Race 2 No 7 Ten Seconds (pp1.8)
Add: Bathurst Race 3 No 1 July Opera (pp6.4)
Add: Ballarat Race 6 No 12 Democrat (pp9)
Add: Ballarat Race 7 No 11 Red Rain (pp3.8)

Appologies, forgot about time diff for WA

place2win 5th October 2011 07:27 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update, Another up and down ride, not quite getting on top
Current Bank.................$850
Positives:
Absolute Cracker
The Widder
Martha's Vineyard
Gotcha
Ridotto
Tango Express
Catch a Heart
Simpre Arriba
July Opera
Return $85.50 (after BF Comm)
Negatives:
Lisetta 3.9 -29
Come Flirt with me 3.5 -25
Rain Drum 2.9 - 19
Ten Seconds 2.6 -16
Red Rain 4.4 -34

Positives + $85.5
Negatives - $123
Loss -$37.5
New Bank $812.5

UselessBettor 5th October 2011 07:38 PM

If you reversed the prices would you be in front ? or would the commission also kill a profit that way ? It hasn't been many selections yet so it could easily bounce back yet.

place2win 5th October 2011 07:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
If you reversed the prices would you be in front ? or would the commission also kill a profit that way ? It hasn't been many selections yet so it could easily bounce back yet.
Hi UselessBettor, Not sure what you mean by 'reversing'
If you mean Back the lays and lay the Backs, I think it would have
been close to even(For to-day at least)I havn't ckecked the back
prices for the lays so it is only a guess at this stage

UselessBettor 5th October 2011 08:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by place2win
Hi UselessBettor, Not sure what you mean by 'reversing'
If you mean Back the lays and lay the Backs, I think it would have
been close to even(For to-day at least)I havn't ckecked the back
prices for the lays so it is only a guess at this stage

Yeah that is exactly what I meant.

place2win 5th October 2011 08:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UselessBettor
Yeah that is exactly what I meant.
Update: Back(Lays) Lay(Backs)
Reverse analogy:
3/10/11 $90 out $86 in Loss $4
4/10/11 $40 out $99 in Profit $59
5/10/11 $90 out $97 in Profit $7
Food for thought

place2win 6th October 2011 12:51 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Thursday 6/10/11
Lay Bets Bank $812.5
Bet Unit = 1% (original Bank $1000) = $10

Bendigo
Race 2 No 1 Ra Ikane (pp2.3)
Race 2 No 7 She's got a Secret (pp5)

Rockhampton
Race 1 No 5 Misty Rocket (pp5.5)
Race 2 No 2 Boze (pp4)

Port lincoln
Race 2 No 3 Sari Bayir (pp1.6)

Rockhampton
Race 3 No 3 Black Morgan (pp4.3)
Race 3 No 4 Rogerrab (pp3.8)
Race 3 No 5 White Cap (pp6.5)
Race 4 No 1 Schrapnel Gully (pp2)

Port Lincoln
Race 5 No 2 Takookachook (pp2.25)

Bendigo
Race 6 No 1 Perfect Pecs (pp3.8)
Race 6 No 8 Surface Tension (pp7.1)

Gosford
Race 6 No 2 Quickmatch (pp4.1)
Race 7 No 1 Rebel Prince (pp6)

Port Licoln
Race 7 No 4 Savage Monkey (pp7)

Rockhampton
Race 7 No 4 It's Elementary (pp7.5)
Race 7 No 6 Hussana (pp4.6)
Race 8 No 7 Desperate Woman (pp9)

place2win 6th October 2011 06:32 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update; Still trying to turn this around
Current Bank............$812.50
Positives x4@$9.5....+$38.00
Negatives 1x$3.1......-$21.00 (Perfect Pecs)
Negatives 1x$5.........-$40.00 (Hussana)
New Bank................$789.50

for UB, reverse analogy

Out $40 In $61 Profit $21

place2win 7th October 2011 12:09 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
In order to get selections on before race time I have to post before
scratchings, as I am not able to access my comp before 12noon
most days. Because Today, (Fri) Sat & Sun could have a huge No
of candidates, I will have to compress the data.

Fri 7/10/2011
Pt Mc R2No4

Ipswich R3 No 2

Sale R 5 No3/6

Nowra R4 No 2

Pt Mac R5 No 5

Ipswich R4 No 1

Sale R 6 No 5

Pt Mc R 6 No 3/7

Sale R 7 No 1/9

Nowra R 6 No 9

Ipswich R6 No 3/7/11

Sale R 8 No 3

Nowra R 7 No 5/7

Pt Mc R 8 No 5/8/9

Ipswich R 7 No 6/7

M Valley R2 No 1/2

M Valley R3 No 1/2/3

M Valley R4 No 1

M Valley R5 No 3

M Valley R6 No 8/12

M Valley R7 No 3/4

Current Bank $789.50

Bet Unit = 1% (original Bank $1000) = $10

Bhagwan 7th October 2011 10:52 AM

I have found laying the price range 3.50-5.90 works well on those Radio TAB and guest tipster selections where they have an asterisk at top of their fist selection number.

That asterisk represents their specials for the day.

I notice their specials sometimes get up if <=3.40
But fall over horrible if 3.50-5.90

Maybe this price 35.0-5.90 range could work for your selection process.

Bhagwan 7th October 2011 10:53 AM

That's meant to read 3.50 not 35.0

place2win 7th October 2011 10:59 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:

Add; Ipswich R4 No 7 (All Fear)
Scr; Sale R8 No 3 (My Survivor)
Add; Sale R8 No 17 (Agasha)
Scr; Pt Mc R 8 No 6 (Abu Dhabi Gold)
Scr; M Valley R6 No 15 (Kiola)

place2win 8th October 2011 01:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
I have found laying the price range 3.50-5.90 works well on those Radio TAB and guest tipster selections where they have an asterisk at top of their fist selection number.

That asterisk represents their specials for the day.

I notice their specials sometimes get up if <=3.40
But fall over horrible if 3.50-5.90

Maybe this price 35.0-5.90 range could work for your selection process.

Thanks Bhagwan, I will look into that aspect of pricing.
However, I will continue thru the month as is. had already
Made an adjustment from <$6max to <$5max

place2win 8th October 2011 02:05 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:

Current Bank............$789.50
Positives x10@$9.5+ $ 95.00
Negatives 1x4.6.....- $ 36.00 (Meghalaya)
Negatives 1x 2.7....- $ 17.00 (Spirit Soul)
New Bank.................$831.50 an actual Profit on the day ($42)

for UB, reverse analogy

Out $100 In $68.85 Loss... $31.15
6/10......................Profit...$21.00
5/10......................Profit...$ 7.00
4/10......................Profit...$59.00
3/10......................Loss....$4.00
Current Bank....................$1051.85

We will call the 'reverse analogy' The UB Train
in honour of UselessBetter and see how many carriages we can add
till end of month.
I will run it in conjunction with The Roller Coaster and see which
fairs the better.

place2win 8th October 2011 02:54 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Saturday 8/10/2011

Morphettville R 1 No 2/5
Rosehill R1 No 7
E Farm R1 No 6
Pakenh R3 No 8/10
Pt Mc R7 No 4
Morph R5 No 1/3
Albury R3 No 1
G Cst R4 No 1/4
Pakenh R5 No 2/4
E Farm R5 No 1
Albury R4 No 3/4
Pakenh R6 No 3/10
E Farm R6 No 2/3
Caulf R9 No 8
Morph R7 No 4
G Cst R6 No 1/8
RosehillR7 no 4/8
Pakenh R7 No 13
K Gran R8 No 3/4/9
Albury R6 No 1/3/8
Morph R8 No 2/11
G Cst R7 No 1/7
E Farm R8 No 4.10
Toow R2 No 1/5
Morph R9 No 6
Toow R5 No 8
Bellm R8 No 5

Current Bank..........$831.50
UB Train Bank.........$1051.85

UselessBettor 8th October 2011 09:48 AM

Lots of selections today. Good luck with it :)

place2win 8th October 2011 07:33 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:
Current Bank......................$831.50 ............UB Train Bank...$1051.85
Positives 12x $9.5...............$114.00 Negatives 12X$10.........-$120.00
Negative 1x2.8...................-$18.00 Positive 1x 2.8..............+$18.00
Negative 1x4.3...................-$33.00 Positive 1x4.2...............+$32.00
Negative 1x 2.3..................-$13.00 Positive 1x 2.3..............+$13.00
Negative 1x 4.4..................-$34.00 Positive 1x 4.3..............+$33.00
New Bank..........................$847.50 Newe Bank...................$1023.05

Slow climb up the incline for the Roller Coaster
However, the UB Train has lost a couple of carraiges

place2win 9th October 2011 02:36 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Sunday 9/10/2011
Opening Bank.......................$847.50 UB Train Bank...$1023.05
Unit Bet (Lay) 1% (original Bank $1000) = $10 (UB Train Back Bet =$10)
Max Lay Liability $5.00 Max Back -Alt of lay( all at 10 sec to jump time)

Cranbourne Race 1 No 1
Sun Coast Race 1 No 1
Cranbourne Race 3 No 3/5
Cranbourne Race 4 No 11/13
Coonamble Race 3 No 7
Sun Coast Race3 No 2/5/6
Devenport Race 3 No 1/6
Cranbourne Race 5 No 5/6/7
Coonamble Race 4 No 3/4
Devenport Race 4 No 1/2/3/4/7
Cranbourne Race 6 No 10
Coonamble Race 5 No 3/6
Tatura Race 4 No 2/5
Devenport Race 5 No 5
Hawkesbury Race 5 No 3/7
Penola Race 5 No 1/4
Coonamble Race 6 No 1/2/3/11
Sun Coast Race 6 No 1/3/7
Hawkesbury Race 6 No 4/6
Penola Race 6 No 2
Coonamble Race 7 No 1/2/8
Sun Coast Race 7 No 6
Tatura Race 6 No 1/2/37
Devenport Race 7 No 3
HawkesburyRace 7 No 7
Penola Race 7 No 12
CranbourneRace9 No 3/15
Coonamble Race 8 No 1/4/6/7
Sunshine Race 8 No 5/8
Tatura Race 7 No 7
Devenport Race 8 No 2/5/6
Penola Race 8 No 6
Cranbourne Race 10 No 2/6/11
Coonamble Race 9 No 2/10/12
Sunshine Race 9 No 1/6/7
Geraldton Race 4 No 3
Geraldton Race 6 No 4/7/9
Geraldton Race 7 no 5/7

place2win 9th October 2011 09:19 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update: Scrastchings
Cranbourne R 3No 3
Cranbourne R4 No 13
Cranbourne R 9 No 3
Hawkesbury R5 No 3/7
Sunshine Coast R 6 No 1
Sunshine Coast R 7 No 6
Sunshine R 8 No 5/8
Tatura R 6 No 3
Penola R 7 No 12
Devenport R 8 No 2
Coonamble R 9 No 2

place2win 9th October 2011 07:49 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:

Current Bank..........................$847.50 Current Bank...............$1023.05

Positives 14x $9.5...................$133.00 Negatives 14X$10..........-$140.00
Hot Flash..1x $3.8..................-$ 28.00 Hot Flash....1x$3.7.........+$27.00
T Kisses....1x $3.5..................-$25.00 T Kisses ......1x$3.4........+$24.00
C Mcleod...1x $2.6..................-$16.00 C Mcleod......1x$2.5........+$15.00
Dbl Halo....1x $3.5..................-$25.00 Dbl Halo.......1x$3.4........+$24.00
Altonio......1x $2.9..................-$19.00 Altonio.........1x$2.8........+$18.00
My Quilter 1x $3.2..................-$22.00 My Quilter.....1x$3.1........+$21.00
Hvy Roller 1x $3.8..................-$28.00 Hvy Roller......1x$3.7.......+$27.00
New Bank..............................$817.00 New Bank.....................$1039.05

A slip on the downside for the Roller Coaster
A carriage back for the UB Train.
A very slooooow day, particularily with the DELAYS

place2win 10th October 2011 11:11 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Monday 10/10/2011


Opening Bank.......................$817.50 UB Train Bank...$1039.05
Unit Bet (Lay) 1% (original Bank $1000) = $10 (UB Train Back Bet =$10)
Max Lay Liability $5.00 Max Back -Alt of lay( all at 10 sec to jump time)

Cessnock R 1 No 3 The annilator (pp3.9)
Donald R 2 No 2 Viper Room (pp13.5)
Leeton R 4 No 4 Redlingo (pp11)
R4 No 7 Just a Hiccup (pp4.5)
Cessnock R 4 No 4 Military Shrew (pp2.6)
Donald R 5 No 1 Flaming Moe (pp7.5)
Leeton R 5 No 4 Mrs Menzies (pp8.2)
R 5 No 6 Club Zero (pp5)
Cessnock R 5 No 6 Shizuson (pp17)
Donald R 6 No 3 Barterer (pp15)
R 6 No 7 Talia Mia (pp5.3)
R6 No 9 Lascelles (pp8.5)
Donald R7 No 7 Skimalong (pp5)
R7 No 9 Strum (pp21)
Cessnock R7 No 7 Catcha Rising Star(pp12)
R7 No 8 Divine Klair (pp6.5)
Donald R8 No 3 Palconi (pp6.8)

place2win 10th October 2011 11:22 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update:
First race at Donald should read R 3 No 2 Viper Room

place2win 10th October 2011 07:41 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Update;

Opening Bank..................$817.50 UB Train Bank......$1039.05
Positives 2x $9.50 ...........+$19.00.Negatives 2x$10..-$20.00
Red Lingo ($4.7)............-$37.00...Red Lingo ($4.6).. +$36.00
Mil Shrew ($2.6)............-$16.00...Mil shrew ($2.6) ...+$16.00
Skimalong($4.7)............-$37.00...Skimalong ($4.6) ..+$36.00
New Bank......................$$746.50 New Bank.............$1092.55

Downhill slide continues for the Roller Coaster.
Carriages back for the UB Train

place2win 11th October 2011 02:03 AM

The Roller Coaster
 
Tuesday 11/10/2011

Current Bank(RC).................$$746.50 Current Bank(UB)........$1092.55

Unit Bet (Lay) 1% (original Bank $1000) = $10 (UB Train Back Bet =$10)
Max Lay Liability $5.00 Max Back -Alt of lay( all at 10 sec to jump time)


Grafton R4 No 4 Dynamic Spy (pp4.6)
Echuca R6 No 10Fantastic Porscha (pp10)
R6 No 12 Golden ascent (pp7.5)
Townsville R3 No 6 No limitation (pp6.5)
Grafton R5 No 3 Just amaizin (pp2.9)
Echuca R7 No 2 Orbicat (pp6.5)
R7 No 5 I'm Mysterious (pp8.5)
Echuca R8 No 2 Happyendo (pp8.50
R8 No 3 Resovre (pp5)
R8 No 11 Winchester Atms (pp7)
R8 No 13 Racer's Dream (pp10)
Townsville R5 No 12 Miss Rubenstein (pp6.5)
GraftonR7 No 8 Storm Fabulador (pp8.5)
R7 No 11 Tzanann (pp10)
Townsville Race 7 No 4 Unluckyforsum (pp14)

Bhagwan 11th October 2011 06:29 AM

I have been dabbling with this crazy idea of backing & laying the same horse in the same sequence of races .

It is not quite right yet.
Further input would be welcome.

This is how it goes.
Lay bet flat 5 units to fall over if price is =>6.20 .
Lay bet 10 units if price is <=$6.00

Back bet is 20 units with an increment of 10% on the last losing Back bet,
Allow a max run of 6 outs then start again if no winner picked.
Also start again if winner is picked.

The general idea is to try & minimise ones total outlay if possible
Its the losing bets that do the damage & punters should try & think in terms of Liability, whether its Win or Lay betting, rather than just profit all the time.

Because if the looses are minimised , the profits will generally follow.

The Lay bets try to pay half of the Back bet losses & soften the blow a little especially on a bad run , if that's possible

First bet is always a Back bet say $20, with zero Lay bet made.

Second bet would be a Back bet $10 +10% due to previous loss .
Plus a $5.00 flat Lay bet to go towards the loss of the 1st bet.


We wish to hit 3.5% a day, then stop , or option to continue for the day if you feel you can hit another 3.50% on the day.

Example of a non winner series.
Back----Lay
20------ No bet on 1st race.
22-------10
24-------5
26--------5
29-------10
32-------5
ect.

place2win 11th October 2011 02:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
I have been dabbling with this crazy idea of backing & laying the same horse in the same sequence of races .

It is not quite right yet.
Further input would be welcome.

This is how it goes.
Lay bet flat 5 units to fall over if price is =>6.20 .
Lay bet 10 units if price is <=$6.00

Back bet is 20 units with an increment of 10% on the last losing Back bet,
Allow a max run of 6 outs then start again if no winner picked.
Also start again if winner is picked.

The general idea is to try & minimise ones total outlay if possible
Its the losing bets that do the damage & punters should try & think in terms of Liability, whether its Win or Lay betting, rather than just profit all the time.

Because if the looses are minimised , the profits will generally follow.

The Lay bets try to pay half of the Back bet losses & soften the blow a little especially on a bad run , if that's possible

First bet is always a Back bet say $20, with zero Lay bet made.

Second bet would be a Back bet $10 +10% due to previous loss .
Plus a $5.00 flat Lay bet to go towards the loss of the 1st bet.


We wish to hit 3.5% a day, then stop , or option to continue for the day if you feel you can hit another 3.50% on the day.

Example of a non winner series.
Back----Lay
20------ No bet on 1st race.
22-------10
24-------5
26--------5
29-------10
32-------5
ect.

Hi Bhagwan,
My Selections from yesterday
Cessnock R 1 No 3.......Back 20(loss)
Leeton R 4 No 4......Back 22(4.6)..Return 101.2... Lay10(4.7)..Loss(37.00)
If we Stop here; 101.2-20-22-37= 22.2 Profit
contunue;
Cessnock R 4 No 4..Back 20(2.6)..Return 52.00
If we stop here; 52.00 20= 32.00 profit
continue:
Leeton R 5 No 6.....Back 20 (Loss)
Donald R6 No 9......Back 22 (Loss)............Lay 10....Return 10
Donald R7 No 7......Back 24 (4.6)..Return 110.4..Lay 10(4.7)..Loss(37.00)
If we stop here; 110.4-2--22-24-37= 7.4 Profit
Each stage would have resulted in a profit
All stages combined in a profit 22.2+32.00+7.4 = 61.6
But will it hold up?

place2win 11th October 2011 06:22 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
update:

Current Bank(RC)...................$746.50 Current Bank(UB)........$1092.55
Positives 4 x $9.5...................$38.00 Negatives 4 x $10.........-$40.00
Racer's Dream ($4.9).............-$39.00 Racer's Dream (4.7).....+$37.00
New Bank..............................$745.50New Bank.....................$1089.55
Little action to-day

place2win 11th October 2011 08:55 PM

The Roller Coaster
 
Wednesday 12/10/2011

Current Bank(RC).................$$745.50 Current Bank(UB)........$1089.55

Unit Bet (Lay) 1% (original Bank $1000) = $10 (UB Train Back Bet =$10)
Max Lay Liability $5.00 Max Back -Alt of lay( all at 10 sec to jump time)

Caulfield R 1 No 2/3/6
Randwick R1 No 1
Randwick R 2 No 3/4/6
M Bridge R 4 No 9
Caulfield R4 No 3/7/9
Randwick R3 No 7
Caulfield R5 No 3/7
Doombem R3 No 9
Randwick R4 No 1/2/4
M Bridge R6 No 1/3/8/9
Randwick R5 No 3
Cailfield R7 No 12/16
Doomben R5 No 1/8/11
Randwick R6 No 1/7
M Bridge R8 No 2/5/10
Caulfield R8 No 2/6
Doomben R6 No 5
Randwick R7 No 9/10
M Bridge R 9No 6/8
Doomben R7 No 9/14
Northam R 6 No 3
Northaam R 8 No 3/5/8

Bhagwan 12th October 2011 08:28 AM

Hi Place2Win

It will hold up if we can hit 1 winner in 6 (17%SR)

If the lot dont ever win , our total loss will be approx 60% less than we would have normally have lost if win only betting.

The average bet size on the 6 bet sequence is 25.50 units x 6 = 153 units
less
6 x say 10units ret = 60unit ret

90 - 153 = -63unit loss

Thats a 90 unit difference
Saving of approx 60% on win only bets.
Therefore less winners & less liability required to recover.

Remember , the idea is to reduce our Banks Liability exposure.
Max leverage is on the 2nd & 3rd bets of the 6 bet sequence.
Plus it adds a bit more fun to the process.

If you hit a winner with one of your 9.00+ selections , you will be laughing like a Hyena.

Has the selection process hit many $9.00+ winners?

Bhagwan 12th October 2011 05:30 PM

My maths is ballsed up .

Its meant to read
60-153= -90units

Saving of 40% on straight level stakes,

place2win 12th October 2011 06:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
My maths is ballsed up .

Its meant to read
60-153= -90units

Saving of 40% on straight level stakes,
Gotcha.
To-day
Randwick R 1 No1 Hendricus (1.68) x 20 = 33.6 Profit 13.6 (Stop) or
continue;
Caulfield R 4 No 9 Cosmonaut (3.30) x 20 66.00 Profit 46.00 (stop) or
continue;
Randwick R 3 No 7 Mc Bull (2.10) x 20 = -20.00 ( Loss)
M Bridge R8 No 5 Belfast Boy (5.5) x 22 = -22.00 (Loss) Lay 10 rtn 10
Caulfield R 8 No 6 Facile Tiger (5.4) x 24 = 129.6 Profit 63.6 Lay 10 rtn(-45)

Overall 13.6 + 46.00 +63.6 +10 -45 = 88.2 Profit

All selections are from The Roller Coaster System where a single
selection resulted.


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