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norisk 2nd March 2012 04:12 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puntz
As far as the Android market is concerned?, well the Ancient Greeks had a idea, They said, "we have all the theory to make machines, but if we make the machines, we become slaves to the machines, the machines require constant service and looking after".
So it's arms length for me and all these never ending Gig thirsty computers.
Peanut Butter will do.



Lots of truth there Puntz - got my new Android 4G phone the other day only because my well used ancient Nokia finally bit the dust, RIP :( & think I have spent more time looking after it than my dogs of late!;)

it does have some pretty cool stuff tho...

Chrome Prince 2nd March 2012 05:33 PM

Let's hope if your brain is imported or replicated into a computer, that computer is not runned nor maintained by BF.
May as well be dead!

lomaca 2nd March 2012 05:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
Let's hope if your brain is imported or replicated into a computer, that computer is not runned nor maintained by BF.
May as well be dead!
more and more posts are confirming my own thoughts.
maybe not on allowed to mention on this forum but luxbet looks promising so far.
not every day and on every race but if one is only betting selectively it may of value.

Cheers

moeee 2nd March 2012 07:36 PM

I didn't find Betfair as being rubbish.

The constant closures for website maintenance without appropriate warning are annoying and frustrating though.

Chrome Prince 2nd March 2012 09:20 PM

Yes not criticising the betting medium, just the IT infrastructure.
It's more offline than the Terminator these days.

TheSchmile 3rd March 2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryPixie
That's pretty much my bread and butter laying price range. This current bot is laying down to a floor price of 3.55 (although there looks to be a shorter one in the prices above) and up to 9.6, which is a pretty consistant ceiling price with me. Earlier iterations of this has seen the bot using 5.3 as the floor price. Anything below this was either breakeven or a slight loss.

Funny isn't it. There's no correct method, just winning or losing methods.

Hi AngryPixie,

Apologies for the late reply, I've literally been in the thick of it, sat between two Sri Lankans, going through a veritable roller coaster of emotions at the MCG. I'm glad I don't bet on sports matches because I don't think my heart could've taken it! What a match!!!

I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence in the quotation. One can probably play any price bracket with success, be it backing or laying, so long as you can accurately evaluate overlays vs underlays to your advantage.

My rule of thumb is to find a horse that I believe is 1-2 lengths better then the opposition in the chosen race. I then wait for the right price. On an average Saturday there will be 10-15 selections, of which I will bet between 4-8 of these selections depending on the price on offer. Watch enough races and you get a feel for the obvious factors that will make this horse favourite and that horse 2nd favourite etc. Sometimes the market will confuse you no end, in this instance, take a paracetamol (or 3 deep breaths), step away, then back your instincts.

I don't for a second pretend to know it all, however I know that what I do works, I assume it's the same with your lay selections. You understand the ups and downs, ins and outs.

My downfall for the best part of my early punting career was threefold; lacking direction, impatience and not demanding value.

Reverse these three things and you're in business. :)

The Schmile

AngryPixie 3rd March 2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrome Prince
The rollercoaster has been something that has concerned me for quite some time, it's not the results, it's the inability to utilise a bigger percentage of the bank afraid of those dreaded runs where every fancied or second fancied horse gets up in Aus, then UK, then USA for a day.


Chrome, this is pretty much why I gave this away. Just became too frustrating to have finished virtually in the same place you'd started at when the end of the week came around. The journey during that week was one of incredible ups and downs, and over time it seemed to me that the ups where smaller and the downs bigger. Just doesn't fit with where I'm at. The margin's not big enough for me. Much prefer the destination to have been worth the journey.

woof43 3rd March 2012 07:08 PM

Aqueduct Racing
 
THE UPS AND DOWN OF US RACING CHECK AQUEDUCT FOR FEB or ABOUT 20 RACING DAYS
IT'S AN ANALYSIS OF HOW THE FAVORITES HAVE PERFORMED IN FEBRUARY 2012.

* HERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT DETAILS:

1. OUT OF 147 RACES THE FAVORITE HAS BEEN AT EVEN MONEY OR LESS 48 TIMES.

2. THESE ODDS-ON FAVORITES HAVE WON 70.8 % OF THEIR RACES.

3. ALL FAVORITES HAVE WON 44.9 % OF THEIR
RACES.

4. NOTE THAT FAVORITES GOING OFF AT ODDS GREATER THAN EVEN MONEY BUT = TO OR LESS THAN 2.20 WON EXACTLY 33.3 % OF THEIR RACES.



HERE IS SOME INTERESTING INFO CONCERNING ODDS-ON FAVORITES AT AQUEDUCT FOR FEBRUARY.

* WITH 70.8 % WINNERS YOU WOULD NEED A BREAK-EVEN PAYOFF FOR $1 OF $1.41 (1/ 70.8 % = $1.41).

* THE ACTUAL AVERAGE P.O. FOR $1 HAS BEEN $1.58.

* THAT REPRESENTS A RETURN OF $1.12 FOR EVERY $1 INVESTED:

1. $1.58 (AVERAGE P.O. FOR $1) X 34 WINS = $53.65.

2. $1.12 (RETURN PER $1 INVESTED) X $48 INVESTED = $53.65.

3. $1.41 (BREAK-EVEN P.O. FOR $1) X 34 WINS = $48 INVESTMENT.

Mark 3rd March 2012 07:19 PM

I'm reasonably sure that nobody took my advice but there you go.
My results?
Friday, 22 markets, won on 21.
Today, 33 markets, won on 25.
Just over 3% POT for very little risk.
Most races were no risk.

jose 3rd March 2012 08:14 PM

Didn't follow your advice to the letter, but tidied up my own strategy around the edges with a few of your tips,so a big thank-you for that Mark.
Last night at MV was a wipe-out for me though, how did you go there?
Favs galore, sad but true.


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