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maverick1993 23rd October 2004 09:16 PM

i think you are all being to hard on starcraft..he had no room at all couldnt even get started he's a big horse that got the worst barrier he could get...he did well to finish 3rd..
Savabeel had the best run ....FOO wasnt in the form he was last year .


Chrome Prince 23rd October 2004 11:13 PM

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On 2004-10-23 21:19, jimmyc_dogs wrote:
i just cant see how the jockey on elvstroum could let him get so far back, he led all the way in the caulfield cup (2400m) why couldnt he be leading or atleast mid field in todays race (2040m), he was basically at the tail with no chance..........

although i did see him begin to fly down the outside only to be blocked by the jockey wearing orange colours..........

still im a little poorer tonight, and very dissapointed :sad:

jimmy


Dead on jimmy_c,

Elvstroem was never given a chance to be in the finish. Jumped a little awkwardly and was settled close to the rear, you don't want to be at the rear on the home turn in a Cox Plate - what were they thinking?

crash 24th October 2004 05:42 AM


Savabeel's win as a 3yr old just showed what a weak field the Cox Plate had and the hype about Starcraft is just that, hype. I doubt the horse will ever win in the Melb. way of going and seems a very over rated horse. Can't believe the bookie's didn't jump all over the owner's $1 mil. bet for the 5/1 he wanted.

Backed Savabeel to win [and in the comp] but left the rest of the races at the Valley alone. It's a bit of a dog track and I think you have got to look for track specialists and keep away from back markers to win at the Valley.

Bomber Bill's easy as you please win as a 9yr. old was a pointer to how weak these so called 'Group' spring races are becoming. Some of these runners are coming from night meetings and even a couple of first time city starters.

sportznut 24th October 2004 05:59 AM

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On 2004-10-24 06:42, crash wrote:
the hype about Starcraft is just that, hype. I doubt the horse will ever win in the Melb. way of going


He already has Crash. He did that at his first run in Melbourne.

crash 24th October 2004 07:06 AM


Hi Sportz. Thanks for the correction, but I was thinking about the big races here and his failure in the Yallumba getting a long way back suggested a loser in the Cox. A horse has to race on the pace in this race.

Starcraft's NZ group wins [and failures there to] aren't anything to brag about and nor is 9 wins from 17 starts. NZ group races [most group 1 races there have prize pools of less than $175,000] hardly match up to Group races here, although I think our group standard is on a downward spiral.

crash 24th October 2004 07:06 AM


Hi Sportz. Thanks for the correction, but I was thinking about the big races here and his failure in the Yallumba getting a long way back suggested a loser in the Cox. A horse has to race on the pace in this race.

Starcraft's NZ group wins [and failures there to] aren't anything to brag about and nor is 9 wins from 17 starts. NZ group races [most group 1 races there have prize pools of less than $175,000] hardly match up to Group races here, although I think our group standard is on a downward spiral.

Paddy 24th October 2004 09:09 AM

07 CARLTON COX PLATE
WFA
2040 Metres
3:30pm
1ST LEG DAILY DOUBLE
2ND LEG QUADRELLA

WIN/PLACE
13 9.30 2.60
4.............4.00
7.............2.10
SPINNER (MIXED) 1.60
QUINELLA 77.30
EXACTA 182.90
TRIFECTA 762.60
FIRST4 3588.90
(13-4-7-1)
SPECIAL DIV 11.00

(13) SAVABEEL
( 4) FIELDS OF OMAGH
( 7) STARCRAFT

SCR - NIL
QUADRELLA SUB - 7




Paddy 24th October 2004 09:10 AM

SAVABEEL selected by puntersteve, rabbitz, nashy, Even Stevens, Geez, feather, Seeker11, shaven & wasgoner

FIELDS OF OMAGH selected by moeee, nashy, Matilda, Even Stevens, Chuck_3000, Raw Instinct & wasgoner


STARCRAFT selected by rabbitz, Raw Instinct, Even Stevens, Geez, syllabus23, feather, mug punta, Seeker11, Chuck_3000, smidgin, Raw Instinct, maverick1993, blinkerz, bl4dez, Hammers, goldmember & thefanatic



GRAND ARMEE selected by rabbitz, umrum, Geez, feather, xptdriver, Seeker11, Chuck_3000, Matilda, smidgin, shaven, bl4dez, Hammers, goldmember, wasgoner & thefanatic


Paddy 24th October 2004 09:10 AM

Thread covered all multiples including the first4.


Congratulations go to Even Steven who selected the tri ($762.60). Well done!



Raw Instinct 24th October 2004 09:19 AM

Starcraft just showed yesterday he is not even close to a 2000m horse and quite honestly after seeing the race again Paolini was the only horse I could make an excuse for wide almost all the way and I think he stuck on fairly well.


Jus heard that they are now planning to spell Starcraft and he will not run past a mile again he will be hard to beat at that range regardless what he did yesterday he is still a good horse at the sprint range.


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