I dont know a great deal about the panlickers,but if what I heard on a Skychannel promo for their dog ratings is correct,then I would think Mooee is on the right track with splits,especially the first split.The guy doing the promo stated that 72% of all winners at the dogs are in front on the first turn!!Can any of the experts on here confirm/refute that statement?If it is true I might have to start having a more serious look at this avenue.

jonron,

I have heard this stat many times and personally think it is about right.

The problem is splits are just one aspect of the dog getting to the first turn. Other things to look into include which way the dogs run when they gets out of the box as they tend to bump each other, the weight of the dog to see whether a check will affect it, how quick is the dog out of the box ( Quick, medium, Slow ), box bias, scratchings, position relative to other dogs, etc, etc, etc.

Also you will find most dogs which should be in the first two at the corner are very short priced. They are then checked becaue they were slow out of the box and some other dog gets to the corner first.

Good Luck

Wes

Thanks mate,as I said dont know that much about the dogs.Am thinking about doing something with concentration on box 1 only,implying some rules from the data you have posted.Not every race,and not at too short a price.Think I am letting myself in for some work here!

The problem with concenrating on box 1 is that a lot of others do as well and you will find that its price will reflect that. As you said though you might be in for some hard yakka and thats pretty much spot on. I can sit here some nights for 2-3 hours and only find one runner worth having a go at. While i do pick out plenty of others that go on to win im not chasing the $1.50 - 2.50 winner as i think the risk should equal the reward.

jonron,

You are much better picking box 3,4,5,6 to concentrate on.

The reason is that these boxes are usually regarded as the most unfortunate to draw as dogs can get "squeezed" when leaving them by the dogs on both sides.

This is where you find many dogs at good odds.

One strategy to concentrate on is to find dogs which are either very quick out of the box and therefore can avoid getting squeezed or find a dog in one of these boxes where a scratching has left a vacant box beside it or find a box where the dogs on either side will go in opposite directions ( ie the inside dog will rail and the outdide dog will run wide). This will allow you to get some very good overs as most amatuer money goes on Box 1.

I have a very simple strategy that works on boxes 4 to 6. Works a treat and only takes 20 secs to work out if the dog is worth a bet.

Good Luck.

Downbylaw
Thanks mate for the reply and input.I see where you are coming with the 1 box quite often being overbet.It is my intention to avoid odds on like the plague.I would accept $2 but no shorter.I intend to start small,do the hard yards and be very selective,as obviously you are.I want to operate on the 4 main states and win $20 a night for each State to begin with.Am I pipe dreaming??Would a progression staking plan be the go,or just add a loss to the target?Also as I live in a semi remote area I cannot buy a decent dog formguide,can you give me any websites that provide same,there must be some,I just dont know of any.
cheers

some sites
 

jonron,

I stick to the victorian races as much more infromation is avialable through the watchdog formguides.

See www.grv.org.au for the details.

I also look as the tassie tote as most formguides are availabel there (hotdog form guides) or via the ozeform website.

Good Luck.

dog handicapping
 

Thanks Baco60

cheers

JONRON,

http://www.grv.org.au/central/index.php
http://www.greyhoundswa.com.au/13227.htm
http://www.graq.org.au/home.asp
http://www.greyhoundracingsa.com.au/
http://www.greyhound-data.com/

The vic and w.a. guides are the best of the bunch by far. Another site to look at is greyoundform.com.au they produce National Greyhound Form newspaper which includes a form guide that goes back three races. IMO it not much of a help but its better than nothing.

In regards to turning a $20 profit each night i think thats a pretty achievable goal but be prepared to put in the hours. The reason i say this is because of the very unstable market, in the blink of an eye dogs come in from 8/1 to 3/1 so while 3 min before the race 8/1 was great 1 minute later 3/1 is looking pretty crappy. Also start with a decent size bank that can handle the bad nights.

I usually just bet a flat amount unless its purely for entertainment then ill drop my stake. One thing ive learnt the hard way is to not decrease your bet just because its the rank outsider and no one else rates its chances.

Goodluck with it all.