Does anyone know of anyone offering divs equal to the best of the tab divs for a place?? I know Read offers better than Supertab... or am I wishful thinking!
Thanks
shy

dngu047 - For MY betting the highest TAB is better that the IAS offerings for a number of reasons:
1. I do most of my betting during the week at the moment and the IAS Divi+ only operates on a few midweek meetings so 95% of my bets wouldn't be covered.
2. I bet on longer odds horses ($8 and up) so in the majority of cases the TAB pays better that SP or Top Fluct.

If you are betting only on Saturday Metro meetings then Divi+ would be a definite option. Only drawback is that you have to bet 1 minute before sched jump which can be a problem if your horse is close to your betting limit on all TABs.

If you were betting on shorter priced horses then SP/Top Fluct is often better than TAB - of course with Top Fluct you have to bet about 30 mins prior to jump so you really need the bookie price to be at least at your limit - that way you know you are going to get the price you want and if the TF is higher then that is a bonus.

SHY - Haven't heard of anyone offering to beat best TAB place div. It would be nice if Read would offer 1/4 Win SP for the place.

dngu047 - I do my betting from the local pub on Saturday, putting in my bet about 30 seconds prior to jump. I can't say I am very successful - I usually break even over a period of time.

I have recentl been trialling a paper system at home weekdays, selecing my runner 10 or more minutes before race start according to price movement.I uses teletext or Internet for prices. It seems a bit more successful but time will tell.

Guys, thanks for all your help. Decided to have a flutter at the races today and, since I wasn't at home to watch the first few races I decided to take the prepost (i.e. fixed odds) prices at Darwin All Sports. As it happened, I backed a winner at a price of $4.00 but afterwards I found top fluctuation paid $4.5, diviplus paid $4.58.

So, given that for some races I won't be there in the half hour or so before start time, I was wondering what the best approach is to try to get the highest price.

Intuitively I would guess that fixed price would be best for favourites, however I don't take many of them today I backed horses at $5.50, $10, $5.50, $12, $4, $12 and $9. Would I be safe is assuming that the long odds bets will ease before race time? In which case, well firstly what price defines a long shot and secondly what's my best option top fluctuation or divi plus?

I was a bit alarmed to see that one of my $12 shots had eased to $21. In a funny way, I'm actually happy it lost because otherwise I would have "lost" nearly half of my profits. Bad odds only affect your profits when your horse wins. Bottom line is I'm looking for which betting option is best for obtaining the highest price (given that I can't be there for some races)

thanks again

dngu047,

There is a page on this site that compares the TAB price to Bookie price for short-priced runners - you might want to have a look at that. Basically they define "short-priced" as under about $5.50 and in this price range the bookies are generally better value. My own research which was based on selections paying $8 and over ONLY indicated that for these runners you are better, on average, with the best TAB dividend. Of course there are always exceptions in both cases - sometimes favourites pay better on the tab and sometimes longshots are better at bookies but in the long run the averages will work out.

So in general I would go with Top Fluct. for horses you expect to be $5.50 or less and TAB or Divi+ for horses you expect to be $8 or more. I can't help you with the middle ground between these two but I suspect you would find that there is not much difference between the two (in the long run).

Try This
Use the price in the newspaper & knock 1-1.5 points off the price shown .

Its amazing how close the end result is on the majority of races, sometimes you get the big overs, which more than makes up for any unders you may strike.

Check it out.

I think I'm getting my first dose of reality here. Normally when I bet on something like the footy, I can place a couple of bets on Monday then not have to worry about them until the weekend i.e. I can place 5, 6 bets with minimal fuss.

However, would I be correct in saying that in racing, it pretty much takes the whole day? I.e. if you have framed a market for Rosehill on a Tuesday, then you pretty much have to be on call the whole time and check the prices before each race to see whether there are any good bets?

Basically what I'm asking is, is there any way to take a "set and forget" approach where you make all your bets early on, go out and do your daily activities, then return to check the results. Am I living in a dream world? (The exception being of course prepost prices which we've discussed above but which are only available at certain times)

dngu047,

In my opinion you do really need to place your bets close to the start of the race if you are going to make money out of racing. Even good punters generally work on a fairly slim profit margin and it is easy to blow this on a few bad bets. If you want a "set and forget" approach then sports betting is probably the better option.

What would be nice is if you could place your bets with a minimum price - if the Top Fluc. price is above this then the bet is made, if not your money is refunded. This would allow you to place all your bets in the morning without having to check before each race to see if the price is at your required level.



[ This Message was edited by: becareful on 2002-07-22 09:53 ]

becareful, I rang Darwin All Sports today they will cancel your top fluctuation bet if a minimum price is not bet.

I just did a check on ozeform website about the difference between longer priced horses say over $8 dollars and you would be surprised how many times top fluc is better.
Again bookies are best and generally speaking unless the price is over $15 top fluc is the way to go but also with a minimum price.