Darky,

I'm just curious.

Is the nswtab's dfs form the same as the wizard?

Its all set out pretty much the same, or, is it just similar?

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"Anybody is capable of anything"

DUXGUTZ
 

I believe it is. ( from the Warren Block organization- everyrace).

Cheers.
darky.

ANOTHER OLDIE
 

FAV

BOTTOM WEIGHT OR WITHIN 1 KG OF BOTTOM WEIGHT.

I,d assume you wouldn,t get many bets though with this one.

Cheers.
darky.

A WIZARD SYSTEM
 

WT RATING 100

TIME RATING 100

15 - 18 POINTS

FS ( FIELD STRENGTH) - 5 to +1.5

Cheers.

darky.

The Wizard top pick as long as it doesn't start at more than $5.50 [good POT]

I am sorry, but something like this does not make logical sense to me. The aim in betting is to get the best possible odds about a horse.

1. Firstly what price are you using to determine the starting price? UniTab? NSW tote? SuperTab? Official bookmaker starting price? You see there are all different starting prices.

2. Now I can just imagine myself watching a horse on top firm from $9.00 to $8.00. NO, I won't back it. It firms from $8.00 to $7.00. NO, I won't back it. It firms from $7.00 to $6.00. NO, I won't back it. Why? Because it hasn't reached $5.50. Personally I would feel rather stupid waiting for a horse to firm from $9.00 all the way to $5.50 before I back it. Personally I would feel rather stupid taking $5.50 about a horse when I could have got $9.00.

You might start with a 'please explain' before going off with your 'logic' mr. logic [the system has the figures to back it up].

'Horse on top at $8' ?? Which races do you follow, 18+ horse fields [only]?

Crash,

1. You haven't explained how YOU decide what starting price is.

2. You only know the starting price AFTER the race. Now that's not much good to me if I want to place a bet BEFORE the race. But it's fine for systems that retrofit results!

Logic,

1. You never asked
2. Your being silly
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The next wizard system.

1.Back any Chris Scholtz tips that do not exceed $5 SP or close to it [1 or 2 min. before the jump obviously]. Monitored 106 selections [so far] return 126.85. Over $5.50 for the same period 93 selections for a return of $46.

You can do the same for Tony Brassel for [remarkably] very similar results.

For the first wizard system in my previous post for 369 races the wizards top selection not over $5.50 SP were 230 that returned 233.50. Over $5.50 there were 139 selections for a return of 106.50.

Moral of the story? It's a hard yard to make a profit consistently punting on tips at over $5.50. I'm sure the loss results would apply to any good tipster or even punter doing their own tipping on a full card.

But it's a legit question to ask, SP is only a given after the race, what source do you use before the race - one of the totes, IAS, Sportingbet?

They can and all do differ quite regularly on prices even up to the start of a race.