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Let's not take anything away from Sacred Kingdom's win.
All the big money here was on SK because on form, it's a better horse than MA. |
not too bad in the end with the winner in 7 out of 10 races, unfortunately managed to profit of Miss Andretti - when i saw the HK bookies had special kingdom at $1.30-$1.40, evens seemed pretty good value
Race 1: 10 Double Luck 2nd $1.90 Race 2: 8 River Jordan 1st $4.90 & $2.00 Race 3: 4 High Point 1st $4.00 & $1.70, 2 Inspiration* 2nd $2.20 Race 4: 3 Sacred Kingdom* 1st $2.00 & $1.20, 1 Absolute Champion 2nd $1.80, Race 5: 4 Doctor Dino 1st $11.00 @ $2.30, 2 Quijano 2nd $2.50 Race 6: 1 Win Practitioner 2nd $2.30, 5 Mutual Fun* 3rd $2.70 Race 7: 7 Good Ba Ba 1st $4.20 & $2.00, 13 Darjina 3rd $2.60 Race 8: 1 Ramonti 1st $3.80 & $2.00, 3 Viva Pataca 2nd $2.00 Race 9: 5 Sunny King 1st $1.90 & $1.30, 7 Joy and Fun 3rd $2.00 Race 10: 14 Special Days 3rd $2.30 |
Chuck
Nice going....i hope you dont get audited by the A.T.O though with "7/10 winners" Quote:
One World* Unp Sir Enesto* Unp Inspiration* 2nd Sacred Kingdon* $2.00w Dylan Thomas* unp Mutual Fun* 3rd Floral Pegasus* Unp Viva Pataca* 2nd Joy & Fun* 3rd Singing Diners* Unp 1 winner 10 outlay 2 return. if you wanted us to back all your selections as your taking credit for then its -3.2 return. |
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SK wa the better horse under the conditions, on the day, no doubt about it...and donkey licked them to boot. The 'on form' bit >> i dont know how you can compare the form but perhaps you can so.... I would have put some influence of the market down to home crowd hero & reports of MA 'stirred up' all day... Now..... your opinion, & i'm not after a debate as until the day ever came we can do all the yacking about it with no evidence. However >>> With Lee saying the horse was stirred up all day and didnt handle the way of going in race conditions and taking the travelling factor into account >>> If MA + SK were to race in Australia under MA conditions e.g. travelling SK over here and make her go her unnatural way of going in Melb..who do you think would win? Do you think SK is the better horse out of Hong Kong? |
??? i was merely showing the results of those that had won/placed....i wasn't crediting myself with a 100% place s/r :p ....... no the top picks didnt go that well but i ended the day in front with some other good results....
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ending the day in front is what its all about i spose chuck.
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Out come the excuses for MA. If MA had the perfect run with all the chances going for her, she would have been beaten by a better horse. Anyone who had actualy done the form would have agreed and I'm sure the big money on Sacred Kingdom did the form! My rating source had Sacred Kingdom [57kg] on 22 points, Miss Andretti [55.5kg] on 17 points along with Royal Delight [57kg] on 17. Form: Sacred Kingdom had 8 starts at the track for 7 wins and 3 starts at the distance for 2 wins. Win rate 87% Place 87%. Average earnings of $770,300 per race. Best time over the 1200m distance on a good track: 1.07.50 [last start]. Average over 3 runs on good 1200m 1.07.79 Miss Andretti: Career starts 28:19-3-2 (W 67% P 86%. This distance [1200m] 18:13-1-1 Average earnings: $625.500. Best time over 1200m. 1.07.74 Average over 3 runs on good 1200m: 1.09.33 MA taking out track records over there? Pigs might fly first. From the above form, it doesn't take Rocket science to work out why the big money was on Sacred Kingdom. A faster horse on average by more than 1/2 a dozen lengths! It wouldn't have mattered if MA had had 6 mths to settle in. SK is still on the way up after only 8 starts. MA is slower now and will never get any better after 28 starts. Will go on to win more money but not against SK over 1200m. |
if we reversed the situation ,, Miss A (fresh) around Moonee Valley ?? would be interesting...
I know alot of people are bagging Froggy but after watching the replay she just never seemed to travel ,,, thought Viva Pataca unlucky,,just didnt want to go between horses and then the gap closed,,,real good horse and hope he comes to Oz next year.. great Ride on Good Ba Ba ,,like this jockey... I'm struggling in my own backyard to pick winners ,,dont know why the heck i was having a go over there :) |
Crash
Comparing times in 2 different countries...hehehehe.....where our tracks are much healthier in the layer of turf we race on compared to Hong Kong. Comparing SK race strike rate in Hong Kong against those donkeys to MA 's in Australia against the worlds best sprinters. Maverick gets it << the intitial question that is. Quote:
I dont bet on Hong Kong let alone follow Miss Andretti so i dont make excuses.....if you think travelling to a different country, getting the outside barrier on that course & asking to go CW when its not natural doesnt effect a horse then i shouldnt be asking you for opinions (that you dont answer anyway) You only have to go look at decent horses like off the top of my head >> Chief de beers, that a change of track a few km's away makes a massive difference to its comfort levels & performance, going the same way, etc etc etc.... let alone what what travelling horses deal with..... Quote:
mmmmmmm......a HK 'superhorse' to fail outside its environment...is that possible? << any WITNESSES to this comment or have i just hit some BULLSIH luck? Forget it, finished.... |
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to better educate Crash about how time ratings over countries compare based upon all environmental factors including thickness of turf see below" Caulfield 1200m record 1:07:74 Sandown Lakeside 1:08:97 Old Sandown 1:09:30 Randwick 1:08:36 Warwick Farm 1:08:60 Rosehill 1:08:39 i wont bother to keep going Sha TIn 1:07:50 According to Crash.............this horse is many many lengths better then any horse to ever run in Australia....simply because of times and a strike rate .....against horses that we sell there because most arent up to our standards I could play marbles on the Sha Tin surface. |
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