January 7:


MORU 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 5 MEXICAN WIND
29 . $3.4 . 1 ROCKY COBRA
17 . $5.9 . 3 BLOW UP THE POKIES
6 . $16.7 . 2 KING OF HEARTS
4 . $25.0 . 6 BAILLEE'S TREAT
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3 . $33.3 . 4 SURE CENTURY
3 . $33.3 . 7 DELLA MADRE


MORU 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
27 . $3.7 . 8 WISTERIA LANE
23 . $4.3 . 3 SHEILDON
15 . $6.7 . 11 CALIBRE
13 . $7.7 . 6 CONCILIATORY
13 . $7.7 . 5 MISS SPARTAN
4 . $25.0 . 2 JUST NED
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3 . $33.3 . 1 GURNARD
3 . $33.3 . 9 ROSEMOUNT
3 . $33.3 . 7 MARWISH
1 . $100.0 . 4 CO DRIVER STEW


MORU 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
39 . $2.6 . 2 APPROACH THE BENCH
29 . $3.4 . 3 KISS MY FUJI
17 . $5.9 . 4 MIND THE STEP
5 . $20.0 . 9 BISCAY STEEL
4 . $25.0 . 5 WATERFRONT LASS
3 . $33.3 . 10 CATBIRD KAHN
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2 . $50.0 . 8 BESTWICK'S BEST
2 . $50.0 . 12 GUARDED PRINCE
2 . $50.0 . 11 SORBEAUX


MORU 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 7 BOMBER COMMAND
17 . $5.9 . 2 MIDNIGHT CITY
11 . $9.1 . 4 TESTA GRANDE
10 . $10.0 . 5 ISLAND SWING
8 . $12.5 . 11 GUNNA HAPPEN
7 . $14.3 . 10 SHY PRINCE
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3 . $33.3 . 12 MCKENZIE RIVER
2 . $50.0 . 9 SACHRASEE
2 . $50.0 . 8 STEP FORWARD
1 . $100.0 . 1 DANEBAR


MORU 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
27 . $3.7 . 3 SIR FUSSALOT
25 . $4.0 . 1 GLORIOUS LAD
17 . $5.9 . 9 HARMONY HILL
11 . $9.1 . 6 MILLISIN
8 . $12.5 . 4 STAY LEICA DANE
5 . $20.0 . 2 OVER 'N' OUT
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4 . $25.0 . 8 ZARBARU
4 . $25.0 . 10 ORPEN EYES
2 . $50.0 . 11 ISA


WANG 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 14 PARETSKY
22 . $4.5 . 10 VERDE PIC
18 . $5.6 . 2 BEDEVIL
6 . $16.7 . 9 TRULY FLYING
6 . $16.7 . 3 CLOUD BASE
3 . $33.3 . 12 DAMIGELLA
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2 . $50.0 . 1 BEAR'SAGUN
2 . $50.0 . 11 CHOICE GEM
2 . $50.0 . 13 WHITE RABBIT
2 . $50.0 . 7 MITCHWILLOW
2 . $50.0 . 8 TETRAGON


WANG 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
40 . $2.5 . 2 CERISE FLEUR
22 . $4.5 . 4 BELLS ALL ROUND
12 . $8.3 . 5 QUEEN OF KINTYRE
10 . $10.0 . 6 GROUPIE GIRL
8 . $12.5 . 3 AIR DULOOKA
8 . $12.5 . 8 SEE HER RUN
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1 . $100.0 . 1 PLATINUM PLACE
1 . $100.0 . 9 JUST ATTITUDE


WANG 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
36 . $2.8 . 1 ABOUT FACE
17 . $5.9 . 9 GALA EVENING
15 . $6.7 . 3 NUCLEAR ROO
12 . $8.3 . 7 POCO PRESTO
12 . $8.3 . 5 TRUSTY TED
5 . $20.0 . 10 ROSE OF MOONCOIN
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4 . $25.0 . 8 SADLER JOH
2 . $50.0 . 6 MOGGS
1 . $100.0 . 2 AWESOME WEATHER


WANG 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
37 . $2.7 . 9 SIAPA RAJAH
23 . $4.3 . 8 SAMOAN PRINCE
13 . $7.7 . 11 FINAL CLASS
10 . $10.0 . 2 CLASS KID
10 . $10.0 . 15 STORMVOGEL
5 . $20.0 . 10 SWORD OF HONOUR
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3 . $33.3 . 17 HOW FRAAR KU DE TA
2 . $50.0 . 1 ARDMILAN
1 . $100.0 . 16 BETTY BE GOOD


WANG 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 3 CHIEF RANK
22 . $4.5 . 2 JE'AN PAUL
20 . $5.0 . 1 BANKSDALE
15 . $6.7 . 12 SNAKEY PRINCESS
8 . $12.5 . 13 SHOWERANASHERRY
7 . $14.3 . 10 BULALA BILL
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3 . $33.3 . 7 SOVEREIGN ARCH
2 . $50.0 . 17 WAIT SMALL
1 . $100.0 . 8 RUBIDAN

January 8:


MUSW 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
39 . $2.6 . 13 CHANCE OF LIGHTNIN
15 . $6.7 . 14 PRECIOUS FIND
11 . $9.1 . 1 COVERT
10 . $10.0 . 9 BAYOU CANE
10 . $10.0 . 2 RUSTY TOY
8 . $12.5 . 11 DANDENONG
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6 . $16.7 . 7 ROYAL FOOTE
2 . $50.0 . 3 SPANISH SENOR
1 . $100.0 . 16 VIV
1 . $100.0 . 5 BELLE'S CAT
1 . $100.0 . 6 DANCE WORLD


MUSW 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 8 FILLATTE
18 . $5.6 . 3 CARNEGIE PRINCE
16 . $6.3 . 7 DRYSDALE
15 . $6.7 . 6 RAVINSKY
5 . $20.0 . 1 SHINKO SENSEI
5 . $20.0 . 5 CROWNS
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4 . $25.0 . 10 VOLTSKABIN
2 . $50.0 . 4 KING'S SPRINTER
1 . $100.0 . 2 CLOUDCRAFT


MUSW 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 6 EYEWINA
19 . $5.3 . 4 SUTTON CROWN
16 . $6.3 . 12 TONDANO
13 . $7.7 . 2 GIANT'S GATE
11 . $9.1 . 3 LADY WHO LUNCHES
8 . $12.5 . 8 CROWNALOT
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5 . $20.0 . 5 FLAMBEAU
3 . $33.3 . 10 GIRL WITH A VISION
3 . $33.3 . 9 BEAM ME UP
1 . $100.0 . 7 LA BELLA GRIGIA


STAW 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
59 . $1.7 . 9 PRETTYASAPICTURE
18 . $5.6 . 2 JOHAN'S LOVE
10 . $10.0 . 4 TABLE CAPTAIN
9 . $11.1 . 10 REDRAW HONOURS
6 . $16.7 . 1 JAMAICAN KING
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1 . $100.0 . 6 SKALARTOOR


STAW 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 1 REMEMBER WHEN
28 . $3.6 . 2 SAZONAR
18 . $5.6 . 6 SOOZE
7 . $14.3 . 9 BILLECART
6 . $16.7 . 8 VAIN CHIC
6 . $16.7 . 4 FENCELINE
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1 . $100.0 . 10 GIFFORD
1 . $100.0 . 3 FAB


STAW 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 11 CATBIRD KITTY
19 . $5.3 . 2 PERILOUS PEAK
18 . $5.6 . 8 HABIT OF THE STARS
14 . $7.1 . 1 UNCLE DON
10 . $10.0 . 7 BLACK ALBERT
5 . $20.0 . 4 FLU BLU
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3 . $33.3 . 12 ALMARLI
3 . $33.3 . 10 SPECTRA BAY
3 . $33.3 . 5 PETAL TO THE METAL
2 . $50.0 . 3 TEST THE SCENE
2 . $50.0 . 9 PRINCE SHIRALEE


STAW 8
RT . ODDS . HORSE
27 . $3.7 . 6 MYCUPPATEA
27 . $3.7 . 3 TRUE RACER
15 . $6.7 . 2 SIR BRIEF
11 . $9.1 . 1 BALLY TURF KING
11 . $9.1 . 7 UNCLE SID
5 . $20.0 . 12 SEDGEWICK
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4 . $25.0 . 10 LOVES SAROVA
1 . $100.0 . 9 ROSENKRANTZ


STAW 9
RT . ODDS . HORSE
28 . $3.6 . 7 PORTRAIT LASS
27 . $3.7 . 1 FILISI
24 . $4.2 . 6 ELITE VISION
10 . $10.0 . 3 HAPPY AMBER
7 . $14.3 . 8 BONNY CAT
5 . $20.0 . 5 BOWTRICE
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2 . $50.0 . 10 TOYDARI
1 . $100.0 . 9 HI LITE GIRL

Sportz

One that caught my eye but i doubt will be on my list today was Lady That Lunches. Races further but i dont like any of the opposition. I think the odds you have up should be alot closer then the current $20 unitab is offering.
How do you think the mare will race 1st up oveR this distance? I wouldnt mid working a multi around her in my slush account as i see value in her and think its a very open race.
RECCOMEND?

Very tough race. As a rule, any race where the top rater has only 25 points ($4) is very open. I'm a bit of a Greg Ryan fan at these NSW country meetings, so I sort of like Sutton Crown in the race along with Eyewina and Tondano. Lady Who Lunches definitely has a chance though, and it would be good value if it remained at such juicy odds. I certainly wouldn't talk you out of backing it.

Thanks for your thoughts Sportz :) on Lady That Lunches.

They're lucky it isnt on heavy ground because they'd have to put back the next race. This could be quite the slogfest as is. To be honest i cant pick anything to put in any multies with it. The 2 doesnt have 1st up from but might be like the lady and be one of those mile & a 1/4 horses that can sprint well fresh. Might abort, it just stood out enough for me to grab the bit when i was veiwing and the unitab odds pricked my ears. Just not sure i have the heart to keep going as its not my thing to be picking horses out that way.
Might throw a few bucks on over 10's e/w and buy lunch with the winnings.
2nd best updated thread on this site Sportz...i enjoy your accuracy.

Sportz

Lady That Lunches >>> she's not 1 of those ones that sprints well fresh! :)
Lost my Subway $$ for tommorow. Will have to have lunch with my lady so she can pay.

Bad luck mate.

Trifecta wasn't bad. Even had them rated in the right order. ;)

that why i enjoy your thread.

January 9:


RAND 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 1 WASTED EMOTIONS
31 . $3.2 . 2 GLOBAL WARMING
19 . $5.3 . 3 SCORCHED EARTH
4 . $25.0 . 6 HEARTBREAK PASS
4 . $25.0 . 4 CUDDLES A DOLLAR
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2 . $50.0 . 5 SILVER DANE


RAND 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 2 EAGLE ROCK
17 . $5.9 . 9 SEQUINELLA
14 . $7.1 . 3 RUM DUM
10 . $10.0 . 4 ROLL OVER ROVER
7 . $14.3 . 8 GELMOOD
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6 . $16.7 . 1 GRIZZ
6 . $16.7 . 6 SKILFUL SIMONE
1 . $100.0 . 7 WANT A BET


RAND 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
41 . $2.4 . 3 HUNTERS HOST
19 . $5.3 . 4 SOUTHERLY IMPACT
13 . $7.7 . 9 GROUNDWORK
7 . $14.3 . 8 PRIMA GOLD
6 . $16.7 . 2 CROWN TOWN
5 . $20.0 . 7 OLOPREY
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4 . $25.0 . 6 GOLDROSSA
3 . $33.3 . 1 SUNSPIEL
3 . $33.3 . 10 SHE VIXEN


RAND 7
RT . ODDS . HORSE
27 . $3.7 . 1 MR BLUE SKY
27 . $3.7 . 9 CAROLINA PINES
21 . $4.8 . 8 JUNGLE TESSLA
16 . $6.3 . 7 PAMPAS
7 . $14.3 . 5 DELAGO STAR
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4 . $25.0 . 4 SPEEDY DUKE
1 . $100.0 . 11 HOLE IN ONE


SAND 1
RT . ODDS . HORSE
50 . $2.0 . 1 PLAYWRIGHT
19 . $5.3 . 3 MISS MEERKAT
15 . $6.7 . 6 MUSIDORA
10 . $10.0 . 2 STREETCAR DESIRE
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5 . $20.0 . 8 GRATIS
3 . $33.3 . 5 VALENTINOS DANCER
2 . $50.0 . 4 POWDERHORN BAY


SAND 2
RT . ODDS . HORSE
33 . $3.0 . 3 DIRT MUSIC
27 . $3.7 . 5 SADDLER'S STORY
26 . $3.8 . 2 ELWOOD
10 . $10.0 . 4 EPONA MISS
5 . $20.0 . 8 ZAYINDA
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1 . $100.0 . 1 CHARTED
1 . $100.0 . 9 WHITTENS LANE
1 . $100.0 . 7 LADY PAMELA


SAND 4
RT . ODDS . HORSE
38 . $2.6 . 3 SPINNING LADY
24 . $4.2 . 4 BENATAR
21 . $4.8 . 6 JAKANA
11 . $9.1 . 7 LADY MARILYN
6 . $16.7 . 1 MRS WATERS
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2 . $50.0 . 2 STRANGE LADY


SAND 5
RT . ODDS . HORSE
25 . $4.0 . 9 HANDSOME IS
21 . $4.8 . 12 ANAIS
14 . $7.1 . 2 FIRE HAZARD
12 . $8.3 . 16 WAYNE'S GOLD
7 . $14.3 . 3 ADAPTOR
6 . $16.7 . 13 HACHIMAN
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5 . $20.0 . 11 MODANEY
4 . $25.0 . 1 CALL ME SYD
4 . $25.0 . 15 LAKEMBA GOLD
2 . $50.0 . 8 NUGGET OF GOLD
1 . $100.0 . 5 BELLA'S BRO
1 . $100.0 . 4 PELIAS
1 . $100.0 . 6 PINIONS
1 . $100.0 . 14 GALVANIC


SAND 6
RT . ODDS . HORSE
35 . $2.9 . 6 STAGERUSH
24 . $4.2 . 4 BRITOMART
13 . $7.7 . 1 COLLODI
12 . $8.3 . 2 VINTAGE SALON
11 . $9.1 . 3 PINTAKA
4 . $25.0 . 8 WIND AND WATER
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3 . $33.3 . 10 FINDAZ KEEPAZ
1 . $100.0 . 9 ABILDGAARD


DEVON 8 (DEVONPORT CUP)
RT . ODDS . HORSE
30 . $3.3 . 1 CONQUERING
21 . $4.8 . 3 CURRIGEE
15 . $6.7 . 2 STUYVESANT
12 . $8.3 . 10 TRIABUNNA
7 . $14.3 . 14 NATIONAL TRUST
6 . $16.7 . 4 LUNARDI
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4 . $25.0 . 5 BROWNEYED BOY
3 . $33.3 . 8 MAHA CHAKRI
3 . $33.3 . 7 KANCHANABURI
2 . $50.0 . 6 ZEVA ROYALE
1 . $100.0 . 13 SAVAL PRINCE

Sportz

Today when contemplating Playwright i noted one 2nd up run for a 9th. It turned me off instantly. I'm a firm believer in horses 1st, 2nd , 3rd up form is usually always precedented throughout its racing career. Most of the time i understand you need to check the particular class it was in when failing but i didnt go that far as the race was full of up and comers & felt going in with any risk wasn't worth it despite trying to justify where / when it ran 9th.
My question is when you do the ratings is that taken into account? Do you keep data suggesting that this 1-3 up form is playing any negative part in the ratings at all?